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Producer Ali
This is an I heart podcast.
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Clay Travis
Shh.
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Producer Ali
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
From the BBC World Service, listen on.
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Clay Travis
BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back. In hour number three, Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We got a bunch of stuff to dive into and update you on. We've been talking about the alleged revelations involving Trump Butler Pennsylvania assassin, what he said online, what his motivations appear to have been. We opened up the program talking about that. Miranda Devine will be a guest on the program tomorrow. She has written a substantial article about it for the New York Post. Tucker Carlson has also done a big video discussion of all of that and that has been a big topic of discussion. President Trump was at Mar a Lago over the weekend. Um, we also been talking about affordability. We'll get to some of that. We talked with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. We also talked with Paul Fine, bomb potential candidate for the Senate in the state of Alabama. And we should mention, we have not talked about it yet, that there is a discussion surrounding the Epstein files vote. And President Trump weighed in last night and said, hey, let's go ahead and everybody vote and release all of these files. I believe that vote is coming on Tuesday. And they tried to submarine Trump with selective leaking of emails last week because they didn't want the attention to be on the fact that the government shutdown had collapsed. And now, Buck, I think Trump has gotten ahead entirely on this story. And as a result, I just, I don't think there's going to be much there there, for lack of a better way of describing it, because President Trump is now saying release all the files and there's going to be a huge vote to release all the files. And I think the ones that are most damning for Trump have already been leaked. Do you have a different take on this? I think it's going to go a long way towards really kind of tamping down the discussion surrounding everything having to do with the Epstein files.
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Buck Sexton
No, I like that he's going to give this no more, at least no more partisan oxygen in the sense that, all right, fine, just, just release the stuff Guys, let's, let's just see. Let's see what you got. You know, the, the smoking gun that is in there that somehow nobody else has been able to find or get out into the public before about Trump, Please. That's the part of it. You can just apply logic and common sense to these things, and I think generally come to what is overwhelmingly going to be 99% of the time the correct conclusion, which is if they had something about Donald Trump where he was the bad guy in something Epstein related, he wouldn't be in the middle of his second term and thinking about, you know, his legacy on the world stage in foreign policy like it never would have gotten here is the point. So it's, if they could have gotten away with, to be clear, manufacturing a story about Trump with Epstein, that would have stuck. Would have to stick, right? They would have done that, too. If they could have Russia collusioned him, they would have done that, but they can't. So this is why, again, this is a frustration, and I think that's why, Donald, it's a frustration in terms of the time. And here he is. This is cut to Trump just says it. Look, the Democrats are doing this because it's the shiny object to distract the news cycle from the disastrous and idiotic shutdown they did. Blake, cut to fake news like you.
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Caller or Guest
You'Re a terrible reporter. And fake news like you, they just keep bringing that up to deflect from the tremendous success of the Trump administration. So a guy like Massey, his poll numbers are showing he's at 6% approval rating right now, and we call him Rand Paul Jr. Because he never, he never votes for the Republican Party. So they're using Jeffrey Epstein as a deflection from the tremendous that we're having as a party.
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Clay Travis
I think that's 100% right. And we'll see on Tuesday. I think the odds of there being anything major that comes out when these are eventually voted on and released is very low. And building on what you said, Buck, if they were going to charge Trump with over 50 felonies in New York and D.C. in South Florida and in Atlanta, if they had anything they could have charged him with related to Jeffrey Epstein, don't you think they would have, instead of paying off a porn star and the, the way that it was accounted for in the, in the books during the election campaign, don't you think they maybe would have just said, hey, this Epstein things got a little more juice than, than many of the things that he was charged with? Again, I think you just have to use common sense here to recognize what's going on. Our friend Miranda Devine, by the way is on right now. The lead story on Fox as we began our show with two hours ago. Fox is now leading with the New York Post revelations relating to this would be assassin in Pennsylvania. And so I do think that this, this story is going to have a lot of legs. If you haven't heard yet, there are reports from the New York Post also Tucker Carlson and others now that they have been able to find the social media post surrounding this assassin that alleged would be assassin he did kill and innocent dad Cory Capatore can't forget in Butler, Pennsylvania as well as clip the President's ear and seriously injure others that he was motivated, not surprisingly by left wing anti Trump political perspectives. That he under his own name called for political violence, that he appears to have been pursuing or at least intrigued by trans related identity aspects. And that if you go and look at his postings, he moved from a young man who was supportive of Trump to post Covid deciding that Trump was a unique threat to American life and that using violence to stop him was potentially justified. Unfortunately, there are a lot of young men and young women who have followed this path, particularly young men.
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Buck Sexton
So there was this period of time when the left was trying to make a mathematical concept popularized of stochastic terrorism. Right. Stochastic terrorism. And so what they were saying is if you put enough of this out there, even if you're not really crossing the line, you know that with the millions and millions of people out there, someone is going to cross the line and therefore it's your fault for what you have said or what your beliefs are. This is what they, the left was, was trying very hard to push this for while Clay. I just think it's interesting that that has disappeared in the era of the trantifa terrorist when it's not a, this is where it's a big difference. This isn't a fringe concept. This isn't among Democrats. This isn't something that you will only hear among the most hard left. They will say things about erasing trans people. They will say things about Trump as a fascist and a Nazi from the very top of the Democrat system and from the Democrat party. The you name it, right. The, the, the no kings protest. All this stuff is about hysteria and hyperbole. The whole purpose of this is to emotionally manipulate people and make them crazy. And then they have some crazies who actually do things like try assassinations that would plunge this country into the abyss. And they take no responsibility whatsoever for the insane things that they have been saying everywhere, from everyone, all the time on the left, all the time among Democrats.
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Clay Travis
And I wonder, based on having seen these posts, and again, the FBI, to my knowledge, has not commented yet on these reports from the New York Post and from Tucker. But there were people interacting with this kid. And I say kid because he was a kid when he was posting in the YouTube comments, all of these incredibly violent things. And then he goes dark. Starting in the summer ish of 2020, he's not posting from these accounts anymore. I wonder whether, unfortunately, people saw this young man with a radical bent who was posting all these violent threats and whether they were able to get in touch with him. This is my speculation. And that further radicalized him because why would the posts have stopped? And then the next thing you hear from him in a public vein is that he's attempting to kill people and kill the President of the United States. So I just, I wonder what is going on here and how all of this is, is. Is developing. The Epstein file story is out there, as we just said. Also, we probably should mention this because it's gotten a lot of attention. I don't know how hyper online you guys are, but there's a. A guy, frankly, that buck and I find most of his views to be abhorrent. His name is Nick Fuentes. And whether or not Tucker Carlson should have interviewed him has turned into a major talking point where people have been going back and forth, typically in the online ecosystem. I don't know how much attention this gets elsewhere, but President Trump was asked about it. I thought his answer was actually pretty solid. We can play that as well. This was last night. Tucker Carlson. What role do you think Tucker Carlson.
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Caller or Guest
Should play in the Republican Party?
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Buck Sexton
The conservative?
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Caller or Guest
Well, I found him to be good. I mean, he said good things about me over the years. I think he's good. We've had some good interviews. I did an interview with him. We had 300 million hits. You know that. Look, I can't tell him. Will you let me finish my thing? You are the worst. You're with Bloomberg, right? You are the worst. I don't know why they even have you. We've had some great interviews with Tucker Carlson, but you can't tell them who to interview. I mean, if he wants to interview Nick Fuentes, I don't know much about him, but if he wants to do it, get the word out, let him. You know, people have to decide.
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Clay Travis
So Trump basically saying, I don't think that guests should be policed and we make our own decisions on this show. Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Not, not willing to throw Tucker under the bus at all, even for one second on that one. Which was interesting. Right. It could be so easy to say, well, I, you know, I'm, you know, I really disagree with Tucker or whatever. Trump stood right by Tucker, did not, did not back down an inch off of it and just said, look, he decided to do this for his show and now it's become something of a national conversation. A lot of people are having this chat. There was a little bit of a hubbub over at the Heritage Foundation, a venerated conservative institution in D.C. where the, the head, whatever, I don't know, if not the CEO, the director, I guess, or the, whatever you call the head guy, Kevin Roberts, who we know actually listens to this show on occasion, he stood up for Tucker and there was a lot of backlash to it. There's a, look, there's a fight. We don't really spend our time here on this because one, I think we serve our, we serve all of you best by talking about the news every day as it's happening and not getting into some of the more personality based squabbling that is going on out there. Because I also think a lot, Clay, to your point, I think if you do this job, you're very aware of it. I think for a lot of the country who's fighting with whom about what, it gets some clicks online, but I don't think anyone's waking up saying, what do we think about that Tucker, Ted Cruz interview, for example? Like, I just don't think, you know, those two guys had it out. If you haven't seen that, they had it out. And you can watch the interview yourself. But I'm, I don't sit here, you don't sit here trying to, to, to pick and choose when we're going to get involved in the scrum. And I think that that's Trump's, I think that was Trump's response too. He's like, look, I like Tucker. He wanted, he wanted to let people hear what this guy Fuentes had to say. I'm leaving it there. That's what he said. Unless I'm missing something.
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Clay Travis
No. One other quote, Tucker did an interview with the New York Times, which is interesting primarily because New York Times tried to destroy Tucker for years. But I thought this was maybe the most interesting quote, the most dis. This is Tucker. The most dispiriting fact of the last nine months is that huge proportions of the institutional Republican Party all kind of hate free speech every bit as much as the left does. They are every bit as censorious as some blue haired, menopausal Black Lives Matter activist. And I just didn't know that. And I'm disgusted. I feel betrayed. I take it personally. I thought that was the most interesting quote because I do think it's important when you get power, sometimes it becomes intoxicating to try to shut down what other people say. And now that Republicans have power, I think this show certainly, but I would suggest others as well should stay committed to the idea that the, to me the cure for speech you don't like is actually more speech. It's not trying to stop someone else from being able to speak.
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Buck Sexton
So yeah, there's an idea that you or I feel the need to address and talk about. That's fine. But we're not going to be the speech police for individuals on the right and certainly not in a way that feels to me like it often can inherently advantage the left and the commies who are trying to destroy the country. What would they, what makes them very happy when people on the right are at each other's throats about anything, when things are getting very nasty. And so we get the emails and the comments here, we just, we don't play into that game. I don't do it. I know you don't do it. And so I think it's totally fair to be honest also with all of you that I just have a standing rule. I'm not going to hit any. I'm not going to hit someone who's a friend because I disagree with something that they said. They're allowed to say what they want to say. I'm talking about friends of mine now. And if I feel compelled to take a different point of view, I'll take a different point of view. But I'm not going to attack somebody personally because I don't agree with a decision that they make on their show. Because I just think also this is, you know, there used to be this thing and people also long history of this clay and talk radio and earlier even in cable news or just turned into like the host taking shots at each other. And it can feel a little, a little petty. A little petty. So I don't know, what do you think? Am I, am I. Oh no, I mean time on this one.
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Clay Travis
I think if people to my we're going to break. But I mean my big takeaway on this is if people attack us like the New York Times attacked us. Remember when they called us like the number three most purveyor of disinformation or whatever the phrase was.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, we should have been number one. That was what I was most ticked off about.
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Clay Travis
But we invited the guy who wrote the article on, I think when we were attacked by name that it can make sense to respond. But other people's shows are not our responsibility to police, just like their responsibility isn't to police what we do on our show. Like, we're fortunate to have the opportunity to say whatever we think. I'm not really in the business of saying what other people can say.
- [19:11]
Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
And some laughs, too.
- [20:27]
Clay Travis
Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Shh.
- [20:36]
Producer Ali
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- [22:04]
Clay Travis
We're living through an exciting moment when it comes to keeping our brains healthy. American innovators are cracking the code on Alzheimer's real breakthroughs. Helping people keep their memories, their independence, their lives. But here's the truth. Previous administration's policies could slow progress down. Our president is working to cut through the bureaucracy. That's where the Market Institute comes in. Their team is leading the fight to cut red tape, empower patients and unleash innovation. America's got the best doctors, researchers and entrepreneurs in the world ready to defeat Alzheimer's. They're just asking for the government to work for the people. Join the fight@marketinstitute.org that's marketinstitute.org because when we free the market, we make America healthier. Now you can stream Fox News live on the Fox One app. Stay on top of breaking news and the biggest stories. Live as they happen. All from the Fox voices you trust, bringing you the coverage you won't find anywhere else.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
I think Clay should just run with.
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Buck Sexton
This and come up with a wine to sell. But just call it Brose and then it's cool for guys to drink it, I think.
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Producer Ali
Sounds delicious.
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Buck Sexton
Is there already a Brose? Because it feels like this must be an idea somebody's already had.
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Clay Travis
That's a great idea. First of all, I have no idea. You can look it up. I will just point out that producer Ali texted me. In fairness, it's not just a women's rose, it's a gay man's too. And I think she was doing it to try to make me feel better. But she has been fired. And so as much as we love producer Ali's work on the show, she is now gone. When we come back, producer Ali can try to defend herself. But in the meantime, we can defend all of you with incredible cozy earth offerings. 40% off everything on Cozy Earth right now. What are we, five weeks basically away? I think I'm right about that. From Christmas. Five weeks in a day. Have you gotten your Christmas shopping done? I bet almost none of you have. Might I suggest a nice rose to pair with your brand new Cozy Earth sheets and your great Cozy earth products. Seriously though, 40% off everything C O Z y Earth. My name Clay as the promos code. That's cozyearth.com promo code clay. Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show. A lot of different people reacting to a variety of different subjects. We'll get some of your talkbacks. 800282 282. Little bit of a heads up and I don't want to say sound like man of mystery Buck Sexton here, but I am leaving the country this evening for a super secret trip that I think is going to result in a very positive story angle but that I can't talk about where I'm going To be it is not to tour the Whispering Angel Winery. For those of you out there lighting up my mentions over the fact that I happen to decide to try some.
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Buck Sexton
First of all, that you would even consider cheating on Gavin Newsom's winery, Clay, is unthinkable.
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Clay Travis
It's true. Buck's gonna have the show solo Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. But maybe I'll be in a different time zone. But maybe I can call in, because I think if you guys are paying attention to the news, if all goes well, we will have some news that will be positive. Nothing. Nothing negative associated with it, but probably news in a way that people don't anticipate me making news, if that makes sense. And that was.
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Buck Sexton
That was really vague. I'll be honest. It makes sense, and yet it was very vague. Y.
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Clay Travis
You know where I'm going to be.
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Buck Sexton
I do.
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Clay Travis
I know exactly how to say it without giving it away. So it is a bit vague. And I will be on a plane flight tonight out of the country, and hopefully we'll have a good result.
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Buck Sexton
If some of you have been wondering, what would Clay look like in Cirque du Soleil tights, maybe you will get your wish. Now, I'm just going to throw out stuff like I'm just going to chum the waters for Clay. AI. You know, just start doing it. So there you go.
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Clay Travis
The. The. The reactions are really, really funny that are. As producer Ali there. Do you want to explain that you were not trying to insult me when you said, in fairness, it's not just a women's rose, it's a gay man's rose, too?
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Producer Ali
Yeah, I was coming to your defense. I was coming to your defense. All my guy friends, a lot of them who happen to be gay, love Whispering Angel. They bring it to all the dinner parties.
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Clay Travis
But do you think most heterosexual men are like, hey, you know what? All the gay men love the thing that you did. I. I don't know that most heterosexual men are like, oh, that. That. That cleanses the attacks on my masculinity that were levied so scurrilously by. Great word there. Scurrilous, by the way, by Kaylee McEnany. So a lot of rolling in there.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. Yes, yes. Yes, I was. Ali, thank you for joining with us there for a second.
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Producer Ali
Do I still have my job?
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Buck Sexton
I was gonna say I was worried that people would be worried that. That Clay had instantaneously done it. Done a firing here, but. No, of course. Of course not. Of course not. Whispering Angel Rose is owned by massive conglomerate LVMH Now I did not know that.
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Clay Travis
So they own every very corporate feel, by the way.
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Producer Ali
Yeah, the good rose.
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Buck Sexton
But really the issue is, is it's not that it was whispering Angel Rose, it's that it was Rose.
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Clay Travis
My man.
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Buck Sexton
You know, you went rose. I think that's alone. That's a rose is like a step away from getting a wine cooler. You know, you might as well have ordered a Zima at the Patriot award.
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Clay Travis
I don't think I'm even knowledgeable enough to know enough about wine to realize the faux pas that I was making. I will say that Kaylee said we should drink this one because it won't stain like your teeth. You can't have like a dark red wine and show up and, you know, be doing a public event with wine stained teeth. And so I thought that I was making a good decision there. She led me over the middle, much like happened here.
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Producer Ali
Well, and with your jacket. And you spill the wine, nobody will know. With your pink jacket.
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Buck Sexton
I think that was a sartorial snub. Yeah, she's lighting you up now.
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Producer Ali
Oh no.
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Buck Sexton
I lost my job again, though, with your fake firing. I think. I think whatever Ali producer Ally throws your way today, you. You've asked for the incoming, so we got to leave it there.
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Clay Travis
VIP email from Dave. I give Clay a pass on the line. The gals were just ribbing him because they find him lovably goofy. Don't need to get a double scotch neat to appear manly. It's exactly right. There was no.
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Buck Sexton
This is like you're he. Clay's a black coffee drinker and I. Okay, I'll drink black coffee too. But I don't understand why, like, it's. If it's good enough for Italy, it's good enough for me to have a cappuccino in the morning sometimes. Like, what's the problem with this? Some people, you drink what you want to drink, is my point. There's not really a. I'm going to tell you something else. Beer, which people think of as manly, gives you man boobs. Guys, real science there.
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Clay Travis
True story.
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Buck Sexton
Beer gives you man boobs. Beer is estrogen increasing, unfortunately.
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Clay Travis
So I've heard that. Is liquor too, or just beer?
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Buck Sexton
I think beer in particular, but I need to. I need to go to the grok on that one.
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Clay Travis
Is it the hops that make it like estrogen related? Like higher levels?
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Buck Sexton
Let me see. Why? I'll find out. You just talk for a second.
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Clay Travis
I will continue to talk as Buck.
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Buck Sexton
Research specifically raises your estrogen levels. I'M trying to find out why. Which even men, by the way. Men have estrogen too. Beer increases estrogen due to phytoestrogen content from hops and barley. Yes, it's specific. So this is real. It's specific to the. The molecular basis of the beer itself. So yeah, you're drinking the anti testosterone when you're drinking beer. Couldn't have explained that to people with the budweiser horses running back in the 90s. True story though, folks. True story.
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Clay Travis
I actually think that's the best argument that a liquor company could make. Beer is drinking estrogen. You. And assuming that liquor doesn't have the same levels of estrogen. I don't know what the date is, but I've seen that storyline before as. As everybody is is breaking that out.
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Buck Sexton
Speaking of estrogen, can I. Can I throw something else out in the mix for us for conversation here about something? I just did you see Bill Ackman's advice on dating? This has gone super viral. I'm very curious. We'll get to some more of this tomorrow. Clay's going to be out. Super secret mission, Clay. But Bill ackman told young men who he. You know what? I think I actually can find the tweet really quickly, Bill. I hear here. I've got it. Here we go. I hear from many young men that find it is difficult to meet young women in a public setting. This is billionaire investor guy Bill Ackman. In other words, the online culture has destroyed the ability to spontaneously meet strangers. As such, I thought I would share a few words that I used in my youth to meet someone that I found compelling. I would ask, quote, may I meet you before engaging in further conversation inevitably enabled the opportunity for a further conversation. A lot of really interesting people, Clay. The Internet has been ruthless. Yes. With Mr. Ackman's May I meet you advice. Is this surprising to you at all?
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Clay Travis
It doesn't surprise me that the Internet has destroyed a rich billionaire who shared his social cues online. And they were quite a lot different than maybe most. I think if you're a billionaire, I.
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Buck Sexton
Think you can walk up to somebody and be like, I like you. And that's it. You know, I think you're good.
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Clay Travis
Well, the girls probably know a lot of the billionaires that are rolling around in rooms. I do think this question, though, is one that is. That is something a lot of young men are talking about. And I know young women complain about it, that they're not getting approached like would have happened in the past. And I think it's because young men. So this is my big thesis on this, you guys can tell me if I'm wrong. I think many young men have taken to heart the idea of toxic masculinity and approaching women is seen now as in their mind somewhat of an aggressive move. And so there's less rejection involved when you just send somebody a message on social media. And so I think it's just indicative of a decline in overall face to face interaction. And face to face interaction brings with it the possibility of rejection which is really, really hard to accept. And I think guys are afraid that not only are they going to get rejected, that they're going to get made fun of. I mean trying to approach a group of girls if you are a guy is insanely difficult because you, as you're going to go approach, you think, oh, if she shoots me down, all of the other girls are going to, you know, they're, they're going to be making fun of the attempt that I have made. May I meet you is a really, really ridiculous, I think opening line. I would suggest if young men are out there, I don't know, you were on the, the bar scene a lot longer than me. I think humor in an unthreatening way is a good way to gauge the interest level of a girl. If she doesn't have a sense of humor, I'm just gonna say you probably don't want to be with her anyway. Like that seems miserable to me. And so. But if you go in with a sort of light hearted entry point, it isn't aggressive like over the top. Does that make sense to all the.
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Buck Sexton
Single guys out there? Let me tell you one thing. Women like bees can smell fear. And so when you go up to them, the most important thing is that your attitude is that you were effectively on a kamikaze mission. My friends, this is all about the story you're going to tell afterwards about how slapped down you got, how, how mocked you were or whatever. You gotta just go in there, not care. I'm not saying try for that to happen and obviously be polite and be nice, but I just mean you gotta have no fear because they, that's you. Are you, are you co signing?
- [36:18]
Clay Travis
You're 100% right. I mean the way I think about it is like being a batter in a baseball game. Most of the time even great hitters swing and make no contact. Like if you are constantly obsessed with the fact that you're, you know, probably walk unless you're, you know, Matthew McConaughey or Tom Cruise, I mean Some of you are, you know, incredibly rich and incredibly good looking. And I'm sure everybody listening right now and certainly this is always funny. Everybody on the Internet is always incredibly good looking. You know you, somebody's got a pretty girl picture and they're like she's not that good looking. It's like Sydney Sweeney, she's not that good looking. She's pretty.
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Buck Sexton
Sweeney, she's mid. They say she's mid.
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Clay Travis
Okay, I guess if you're into you know, really good looking 25 year olds. But, but I could do better. I think you just have to think of it as, as basically you're a batter up to and you're gonna swing and miss a bunch and you might file one off and it happens.
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Buck Sexton
This is what you just, if you're fearless, it's fine. If you're fearless, guys, it's fine. Also the same way you should go into interviews, you always, for a job, I mean now you always want to go into the interview. Like if I get it, I don't get it. You know what, I'll figure it out. I'm gonna put, I'm gonna do my thing. I'm gonna be who I am. Nervousness, anxiety, fear, always unappealing. So just let it and by this is why I'll tell you the like pickup artist books that used to come out back in the 90s, there are a bunch of them that were very famous. A lot of it what they're a lot of what they teach guys to do. And let me say there's a lot of, there's a lot of bad stuff about being you know, very philandering with the women and everything. But put that aside. They just want you to go up. They tell you just go up. And if you're not talking to 50 women a day or something and it's not because you're going to get 50 phone numbers. The idea is to desensitize you to rejection. Because once you're desensitized to rejection, you no longer have fear. And once you no longer have fear, when you approach someone, their energy reflecting off of you is going to be like, wow, this guy's just coming up and talking to me. Whereas if you go up and you're like excuse me goddess who is far out of my league, that's not going to work for even if she is. And by the way, I have, you know, I mean I, I, I have made that movie for look at who I'm married to. Sometimes you got to take a swing for the fences.
- [38:35]
Clay Travis
I think also It's a lot like sales. You know, the reason why people who do sales are successful in life is because they're willing to get rejected. Most people hide and they fear failure more than they crave success. And I think that applies there too. I will say Bill Ackman's may I meet you line is so incredibly awkward. I bet a bunch of guys are sliding in dms.
- [39:01]
Buck Sexton
It's everywhere now. And it's become a perfect. Yes, it is actually become a perfect pickup line because now everyone gets to be in on the joke. It's, you know, Bill Ackman is being very. He's having a very good sense of humor about it. He's playing the whole thing very well too. But it is. It is quite funny. The whole thing is really become very, very amusing. But people do lack that icebreaker initial skill. And once you get. Once you get good on that, it is a. It is a secret weapon.
- [39:29]
Clay Travis
Did you have a go to line at a bar that you would try just to break the ice? Did you have something that you found was. Now that you're married, is there a. Is there a tip? Did you have a line? It was.
- [39:39]
Buck Sexton
I. I was always very. I was always very situational. So I would just sort of find something. I usually would comment on something in the environment that was going on in a funny way. And first sort of just get that.
- [39:52]
Clay Travis
You know, because we talk for a living. So we don't have. A lot of men cannot communicate very well as many women out there are nodding along. At least we talk for a living. I had a buddy who had really good success. He's married now. Give it out. He would go up to girls and he would say, hey, I'm not the kind of guy to brag, but I have health insurance. And that was a pretty good ice breaking line because it's a ridiculous thing to say, but it also is kind of like it worked well.
- [40:21]
Buck Sexton
Did he wear cargo shorts with new balance sneakers when he pulled that line? Cause that is a dad line right there.
- [40:27]
Clay Travis
I think that's a great line. I think you can go with your credit score, you know, or. Or brag about your mortgage. Mortgage interest rate. Like I think these are. These are things that, that work well for the, the. The girls. Once you get. A lot of women have no idea what life costs until they're like 24. So if you're talking to an 18 year old, they got no idea. Once you get to be like 24, they start to recognize, wait, it's really expensive to live in a good neighborhood. And rent starts to add up once once you're out in the real world. Hey, health insurance. That's a. It's a line that gets the girls attention in a heartbeat, just like Prize Picks does. You could also just go up and say, hey. Not to brag, but I'm really good at Prize Picks and trust me, there's nothing girls love more than when guys talk about sports with them out of nowhere. Prize picks.com code clay. You can also go on the Price Picks app when you do it $50 when you play $5. That is $50 when you play $5. You can play it in Georgia, you can play it in Texas. You can play it in California. 40 plus states, 13 million people already signed up. You can play along with us too. In fact, I may have to send Buck a pick because I'll be on my super secret mission this week. And we know that when I send a pick to Buck, it doesn't always go great. So you may want to stay tuned and see how that goes. Prizepix.com code clay that is pricepix.com code clay get hooked up today and you will be well on your way to having a little bit more fun with football, basketball, tennis, golf, whatever you love. Price Picks has got a game for you@pricepix.com code play. Making America great again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcast Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Shh.
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Producer Ali
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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- [46:00]
Producer Ali
Hey Clay, I think if you start drinking the Whispering angel while you're watching the Hallmark channel, that's when we may have a problem.
- [46:08]
Buck Sexton
What if it's a really good thespian showing?
- [46:11]
Clay Travis
I'm sorry that I'm just really connected to many of the love stories that the Hallmark Channel brings to bear on a day to day basis. In fact, they have filmed many of these in the town that I lived in. Franklin, Tennessee, ee, North Carolina.
- [46:26]
Buck Sexton
Called in with a talk back. Hit it.
- [46:28]
Producer Ali
Hey, Clay. And Buck, Is Ali really gone from the show or is Clay pulling our leg once again?
- [46:35]
Buck Sexton
Oh, he's definitely pulling. Allie's not allowed to. Not only she's not fired, she's not allowed to leave. Like that's not, that's not even a thing.
- [46:42]
Clay Travis
How big of a jerk would I have to be to actually fire someone live on the air? I mean, after four and a half years, I might not be perfect, but I think most people would say that doesn't really seem like Clay. But again, in fairness, it's not just a women's rose. It's a gay man's rose too. Is not necessarily the way to win. Win my heart back. That's producer Ally on the scurrilous attack of Kayleigh McEnany.
- [47:08]
Buck Sexton
Can you give us a clue and we'll take talkbacks and where you actually do you want to give us a clue on your super secret mission to close us out here overseas headed east?
- [47:23]
Clay Travis
Shh.
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Producer Ali
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- [47:51]
Clay Travis
Hi, I'm Zing Singh. And I'm Simon Jack. And together we host Good Bad Billionaire. The podcast exploring how some of the world's richest people made their fortunes. And we are back with a brand new season of billionaires. Yes, movie megastar Arnold Schwarzenegger, America's richest self made businesswoman Diane Hendricks and copy co founder of Snapchat Evan Spiegel to name just a few. And we're asking you to decide if they're good, bad or just another billionaire.
- [48:15]
Buck Sexton
Good bad billionaire from the BBC World Service.
- [48:18]
Clay Travis
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Producer Ali
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Buck Sexton
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Producer Ali
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