Hour 3 - Columbus Day

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 3 – Columbus Day
Air Date: October 13, 2025
Host(s): Buck Sexton (Clay Travis out for this hour)
Guest: Robin Van Eaton (US CEO/Global COO, International Fellowship of Christians and Jews)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on two major themes:

• The significance and controversy of Columbus Day—Buck Sexton provides a spirited defense of the traditional holiday and critiques the movement to supplant it with Indigenous Peoples Day.
• The breakthrough Middle East peace agreement—with special attention to President Trump’s role in securing a new era for Israel and the wider region, including exclusive on-the-ground perspectives from Robin Van Eaton in both Israel and the U.S.

Additional segments touch on upcoming gubernatorial races (notably Virginia), audience engagement, and some lighter moments, including cooking advice.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Columbus Day vs Indigenous Peoples Day

Timestamps: 01:05 – 14:06

• Celebrating Columbus: Buck Sexton marks Columbus Day, lauding the Trump administration’s support for reinstating its prominence as a federal holiday.

  • “It is also Columbus Day, as in Christopher Columbus … discovering the new world … and it’s a moment where we can also say thank you to this Trump administration, because … there is a willingness and a desire to make this holiday about Columbus Day once again…” — Buck Sexton [01:05]

• Critique of Rebranding: Plays a 2021 clip of Kamala Harris addressing the National Congress of American Indians, voicing her preference for honesty about colonial violence and support for rebranding as Indigenous Peoples Day.

  • “Those explorers ushered in a wave of devastation for tribal nations, perpetrating violence, stealing land, and spreading disease. We must not shy away from this shameful past …” — Kamala Harris (clip) [02:27]

• Buck’s Historical Context: Buck pushes back, asserting that conquest and replacement of people happened globally, not uniquely at the hands of Europeans.

  • Cites evidence that various indigenous groups also displaced and subdued predecessors, practiced conquest, and, in some instances, even cannibalism (e.g., Aztecs, Incas).
  • Emphasizes that population losses after European contact were primarily due to disease, not genocide.
  • “The vast majority of the population losses ... were not due to genocide, were not due to a policy of active violence. It was the spread of disease.” — Buck Sexton [10:13]

• On Modern Sensibilities: Argues against judging Columbus by contemporary moral standards and stresses the complexity of human history.

  • “You cannot just transpose onto people from 500 years ago ... But if we're going to start to do that, we also have to look at the reality and the savagery that was dominant among so many of the native population.” — Buck Sexton [10:57]

• Opposing Indigenous Peoples Day on Columbus Day: Buck claims the intent is to undermine Columbus Day, not merely celebrate indigenous heritage.

  • “The reason it's the same day is to take away from Columbus Day … it’s all meant as a swipe ... to undermine the celebration of the European exploration of the Americas…” — Buck Sexton [13:09]

Notable Quote:

“We can celebrate Columbus without denigrating anybody else. And we don't have to denigrate Columbus to make people feel better about themselves.”
— Buck Sexton [13:33]

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2. Middle East Peace and Trump’s Triumph

Timestamps: 17:05 – 28:55

• Historic Achievements for Peace: Buck hails President Trump’s diplomatic breakthrough—securing a peace deal involving Israel, Arab partners, and the release of hostages held by Hamas.

  • Plays Trump’s speech:

    “It’s an incredible triumph for Israel and the world to have all of these nations working together as partners in peace … Generations from now, this will be remembered as the moment everything began to change and change very much for the better... the golden age of Israel and the golden age of the Middle East.”
    — Donald Trump (clip) [17:44]

• Trump’s Leadership: Buck argues that Trump is more focused and effective in his second term, attributing peace to his “man of destiny” sense and improved personnel decisions.

  • “He has learned a lot. He is more focused than ever before … The team around him is just. This is the team.” — Buck Sexton [18:44]

• Realities of Peace: Buck voices cautious optimism, stressing Hamas’s history and the ongoing need for vigilance despite the deal.

  • “You are dealing with Hamas. They are evil barbarians. The leadership of Hamas are bad people … Now Israel is going to abide by this peace. Will Hamas abide by the peace?” — Buck Sexton [21:49]

• Legacy Framing: Trump frames the moment as the “end of the age of terror and death and the beginning of the age of faith and Hope and of God.”
  — Donald Trump (clip) [22:58]

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3. On-the-ground Perspective: Robin Van Eaton

Timestamps: 24:06 – 28:55

• Immediate Impact in Israel: Robin Van Eaton (IFCJ) describes jubilation and deep relief in Israel after hostage returns.

  • “We just came off an event … tens of thousands of Christians praying for Israel and thanking God for their return. … Colleagues in Israel … told me … they could never move forward … until those hostages were returned. And to see that day finally arrive is just truly a miracle.” — Robin Van Eaton [24:32]

• Credit to Trump and Netanyahu: She emphasizes the key role of U.S. and Israeli leadership, as well as steadfast support from Christians worldwide.

• Hostage Family Support: IFCJ provided nearly $1M in aid, is establishing the Return to Life Center at Sheba Medical Center for psychological, medical, social support for returned hostages and families.

• Cultural & Religious Solidarity: Repeatedly thanks the Clay and Buck team for unwavering public support of Israel.

  • “Thank you to you and to Clay for being such staunch supporters of Israel, never wavering, always staying committed … your voice has been so important over the last two years.” — Robin Van Eaton [28:29]

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4. U.S. Politics: Virginia Governor’s Race / Democrat Critique

Timestamps: 42:05 – 43:53

• Caller Ben from Indiana raises the Virginia gubernatorial race, noting a “Ronald Reagan moment” for Winston Sears in debate vs. Abigail Spanberger:

  • Points: Spanberger’s stance on “chemical castration and the transing of children,” continued support for controversial state AG candidate.
  • “I have some hope in this Virginia race.” — Caller Ben [43:10]

• Buck Promises Further Coverage:

  • “We're going to get into this tomorrow, my friend ... Virginia governor's race is going to be part of tomorrow's adventure…” — Buck Sexton [43:10]

• Democrat Foreign Policy Critique: Buck lambastes Biden, Obama, and Clinton for “disaster” in Middle East history, contrasts Trump’s lack of establishment experience with his current successes.

  • “Joe Biden … was the Obama era foreign policy brain. … Even without the dementia, didn’t know his, you know, brain from his butt.” — Buck Sexton [29:51]
  • “[Democrats] fancy themselves … more responsible on foreign policy. And all we have seen is the exact opposite…” — Buck Sexton [30:13]

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5. Lighter Moments & Other Topics

• Cooking Advice from Chef Gruel
  (Timestamps: 40:03 – 42:05):
  Buck shares a tip from new conservative podcast chef, Chef Gruel:

  • “Make sure that you salt as you go … not just at the end. … That’s a great tip … you would get from the podcast with Chef Gruel.” — Buck Sexton [41:12]

• Prize Picks / Audience Engagement
  (Timestamps: 35:48 – 36:48):
  Banter about fantasy sports app Prize Picks, teasing Clay’s picks and nod to sports listeners.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “I do agree with what Tony Soprano says: in this house, Columbus is a hero. I think that what Columbus did was an incredible act of bravery that changed the world.”
  — Buck Sexton [12:33]

• “This was a very unusual point in time, a brilliant point in time... Generations from now, this will be remembered as the moment that everything began to change and change very much for the better.”
  — Donald Trump (clip) [17:44]

• “Trump is a great humanitarian, he's a great businessman, but he's a great humanitarian, too … allowing these kinds of agreements to be reached which result in fewer people dying…”
  — Buck Sexton [31:44]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Start | End | |-----------------------------------------------|-----------|-----------| | Columbus Day & Indigenous Peoples Day Debate | 01:05 | 14:06 | | Middle East Peace, Trump Remarks | 17:05 | 22:58 | | Robin Van Eaton Interview | 24:06 | 28:55 | | U.S. Politics: Virginia Governor's Race | 42:05 | 43:53 | | Cooking Advice Segment | 40:03 | 42:05 |

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Conclusion

This episode provides both a robust defense of traditional American holidays and a celebratory retrospective on President Trump’s headline-grabbing foreign policy achievements, especially regarding Israel and the Middle East. Buck Sexton’s commentary is frank and often provocative, blending history, current events, and audience engagement with characteristic humor and conviction.

For listeners seeking strong perspectives on American culture, history, and current affairs—plus a glimpse into Trump-era diplomacy—this episode delivers passionate commentary and on-the-ground testimonials, with some lighter fare thrown in for balance.

Transcript

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Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now. It is Middle East Peace Day, everybody, which we will continue to talk about. But it is also Columbus Day, as in Christopher Columbus sailing on the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria, discovering the New world, some people are saying, a very beautiful world. It was. And it's a moment where we can also say thank you to this Trump administration, because while you and I can sit and talk about Columbus Day and know that this is also being supported from our federal government, that there is a willingness and a desire to make this holiday about Columbus Day, once again, that. Not. That was not necessarily going to be the case. And if you want a little throwback, here I have for you in 2021. Then Vice President Harris speaking to the National Congress of American Indians on Columbus Day, which they tried to rebrand as Indigenous Peoples Day. Listen to what was a window into our future should a Kamala Harris administration have come to pass. Play it.

[Kamala Harris (clip)]

Since 1934, every October, the United States has recognized the voyage of the European explorers who first landed on the shores of the Americas. But that is not the whole story. That has never been the whole story. Those explorers ushered in a wave of devastation for tribal nations, perpetrating violence, stealing land, and spreading disease. We must not shy away from this shameful past, and we must shed light on it and do everything we can to address the impact of the past on Native communities today.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't think so. I think we could actually just celebrate Columbus Day. How about that? Nice work, Christopher Columbus. Nice job. Very impressive. Sailing across the Ocean Blue in 1492 I don't think we actually have to sit around and cry about everything that happened to the indigenous peoples thereafter. You know something that's fascinating as it begins to unfold here, you're seeing more and more of this. There have been, there has been some advances in science that allow us to see increasingly that the so called indigenous in places all over the world replaced people generally by conquest that were there before them. And that this has been the nature of human existence in certainly the pre modern age forever. That people come along and unfortunately we are ultimately it has been said we are mammals, we are more than mammals, but we are mammals and we come along and we decide that we're going to fight over resources and we're going to fight over territory and that's a messy business. But to pretend that this is something that is unique to European explorers is nonsense. And I think we've all had enough of this. And if we're going to start to talk about the situation of the indigenous peoples as we arrive here in America or as the Europeans arrived in America, let's really talk about it. How many of you even would for example know offhand that by the historical record there were, there was a whole number, I mean really in the dozens of Native American tribes. And I don't even like that term Native American because they weren't part of America. America was actually the creation of the European explorers who arrived here. It was just a undiscovered by the rest of the world landmass with people living with Stone Age implements. Fact, go ask any anthropologist had not discovered the wheel, did not have written language. You know, if this were anywhere else in the world they would have long since been conquered because there were oceans in between them. They lasted quite a bit longer. But how many people would even know offhand that there were dozens of cannibal tribes, or rather tribes that practiced cannibalism right here in America. We've heard more about the Aztecs and the Incas and their massive empires of slavery built on slavery. Yes, that is true. And human sacrifice, including child sacrifice, that's better known when we arrived, I shouldn't say we, but when the Spanish conquistadors arrived, specifically in what is now Peru, Ecuador, the northwest of South America. When Pizarro and his band of conquistadors got there, it had only been a pretty recent phenomenon that the, the regime in place, the Incas who had taken over had in fact been the ruling entity there. They had been fighting for a long time to subjugate other tribes. So The Incas were not like this cohesive, and there were tens of millions of them. The Inca empire was actually much larger by population than the Aztec Empire. I think the Aztec empire, because it's closer to us, was. Is better known, more famous. We know stuff about Mexico more than we do about Peru and Ecuador in this country, because it's right next door. But the Inca empire was much larger by area, went on for like a thousand miles, and north, south, all along what we think of now as the Andes, the spine of the Andes, if you will. Everything up in the Andes to the west of it that was inhabited was the Incas, when In the early 16th century, the European, well, Spanish conquistadors, slash, explorers arrived there, but they were engaged in their own conquest. This is just the nature of human history up to this point, and the pretense that there was peace and harmony and that people just got along. And then we showed up, we being Europeans, then. Then Europeans showed up, and they were the bad guys in all of this. And there was no benefit that came from it. I mean, look, yes. Did a lot of people die of smallpox? A lot of people died of smallpox, but that was gonna happen at some point, meaning there was no way to prevent these diseases from spreading. And they had been spreading in much of the rest of the world for many centuries. You know, there's this group, they're in the Indian Ocean. It's. I think it's North Sentinel island is the name of the island. And they have these individuals, not very many of them, who are considered uncontacted. So it's a little tiny island in the Indian Ocean that has people living there, and they have rudimentary Stone Age tools. I mean, they have spears and things like that. And no one is allowed to go to the island because if they do, or one, they've actually killed people who visited the island. But, you know, I can understand they'd be free. I'd be freaked out, too, if I were them. You know, I had never seen other human beings anywhere. But also they would die from disease right away because they don't have. Their immune systems, are not. Not capable of handling the diseases that modern, modern everybody else in the rest of the world can handle. So we had something similar on a much larger scale when the European explorers arrived in the. In the Americas, and the vast majority of the population losses that occurred, over 90% were not due to genocide, were not due to a policy of active violence. It was the spread of disease. And that was certainly the case in Pizarro's conquest of the Incas as well. There was always that component of it and it was true for the. For the Aztecs or rather for Cortez and the Spaniards who come conquered there. But I just think that if we're going to start to have a conversation about what things were really like and what was really going on in these areas of the country, or rather in these parts of the New World, let's really have that conversation. Like, let's really be allowed to do this and to do this the right way, which is to be honest about what was going on and what wasn't. So that you would not have gotten that under a Kamala Harris administration. That is for sure. And I do agree with what Tony Soprano says in this house. Columbus is a hero. I think that what Columbus did was an incredible act of bravery that changed the world. That's not to say that Columbus as an individual was some great guy, you know. And if we're going to put this in the modern context, I don't know what Columbus position on trans rights was. I don't know what his position on. Well, actually, I think we could surmise his position on open borders would have been, but a whole lot of modern sensibilities that you cannot just transpose onto people from 500 years ago. But if we're going to start to do that, we also have to look at the reality and the savagery that was dominant among so many of the native population in what is now America, or rather North America and South America, and how this was the reality of all of human history before we arrived. So I just think that's all part of the discussion. And the notion that we should have Indigenous Peoples Day is interesting to me because why does it have to be on the same day? Well, the reason it's the same day is to take away from Columbus Day. The reason that they wanted to have these things be two sides of the same coin is to undermine. Because you could pick any other day and nobody would care. Pick some other day. That's Indigenous Peoples Day. And also, do. Do Pete, do individuals really feel like they are celebrated by the very broad term Indigenous Peoples Day? Does that really? Who is that benefiting? No, it's all meant as a swipe. And it's meant to undermine the celebration of the European exploration of the Americas and how it brought about the world that we live in. And what an amazing. What an amazing situation it was when Columbus arrived. And the fact of the matter is that we can celebrate Columbus without denigrating anybody else. And we don't have to denigrate Columbus to make people feel better about themselves. Like these are things that are possible simultaneously and in a Trump administration. In Trump's era of America, it's nice that we can finally say yay, Christopher Columbus. What he did was remarkable and a lot of people get the day off. I do not. As you can tell, I do not get the day off. 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[Buck Sexton]

So it's a big day of celebration for Trump on the Middle east peace plan that he has planned put into action. And this is one of these moments where even the Trump detractors out there are saying this is only possible because of the Big Guy. Only happened because of him. We all have seen that this is Trump's moment. And here he is, this is cut 12, saying that this is going to be remembered. This day that you and I, sitting here, are enjoying together, my friends, this day will be remembered in generations as the beginning of a golden age. Play it.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

Let me also convey my tremendous appreciation for all of the nations of the Arab and Muslim world that came together to press Hamas to set the hostages free and to send them home. We had a lot of help. We had a lot of help from a lot of people that you wouldn't suspect, and I want to thank them very much for that. It's an incredible triumph for Israel and the world to have all of these nations working together as partners in peace. And it's pretty unusual for you to see that, but it happened in this case. This was a very unusual point in time, a brilliant point in time. Generations from now, this will be remembered as the moment that everything began to change and change very much for the better. Like the USA right now. It will be the golden age of Israel and the golden age of the Middle East. It's going to work together.

[Buck Sexton]

Golden age for Israel. Golden age for the Middle East. Trump already kicked off the golden age for America when he took office. So you're noticing a theme, and I am very, very pleased that we're all able to sit here. And in the first year, I mean, imagine this could have been the crowning achievement in year four of Trump's second term. And any honest observer historian, to the degree there are honest historians these days, would have to say, well, that's. That's a pretty remarkable way to close things out. It's still year one, everybody. It's not even one year yet. We are not tired of winning. It's that simple. Trump's not tired of winning. And so much of this, I think, really does come down to. He has learned a lot. He is more focused than ever before. What's happened to Trump, the indictments, the bullet in his ear, all these things, all these incredible trials and tribulations that he's been through, I think has made him more of a man of destiny than ever before. I think he has an understanding of where he is in history and that he has fated to do many of these things that God has called him to do many of these things. And we are seeing during the results of that in so many ways. Also, the team around him is just. This is the team. And we were saying it to you here on this show from the very beginning. He did not have the right personnel on the first administration. He knows that he had to fire a lot of them. There was a learning curve. One of the questions that some people who were Trump voters but maybe felt a little, but you know, I was hearing out there when before the Mar A Lago raid, before all the indictments, people are saying, OK look, I'm a Trump guy or gal, but has he really learned some of the lessons of the first four years and will he implement? And I think we see, yeah, he has the team around him is getting it done. They are the right people for these jobs. They are results driven and they really are taking to this Internet meme of you can just do things. You can just do things. You don't have to sit around in despair and be useless like so many government officials and agencies have been. It is possible to have major goals in mind and to achieve them and then to keep going. And I think we are seeing that play out here. Fully have open eyes about what the pitfalls are. You are dealing with Hamas. They are evil barbarians. The leadership of Hamas are bad people who Israel would have been fully justified in, in eliminating, taking them out, killing them. I mean that is the reality of the war they were fighting. Now Israel is going to abide by this peace. Will Hamas abide by the peace and will Arab partners in the region and Turkish and others hold them to account? We still have to keep an eye on all of that. But when you've got kids under your roof and you got a wife or a husband you want to help protect, you don't mess around with self protection. The company making the best non lethal self protection tools on the market these days is Sabre. S A B R E is their website. Sabre radio.com Sabre is the number one pepper spray brand trusted by law enforcement. Their products are so effective at deterring the threat. Their pepper gel gun is a great example. Shaped like a pistol or rifle, depending on the model. Fires off a pepper gel projectile that's targeted and goes a longer distance than you think. First moments you unpack your Sabre products and hold them. It's this moment where you get a real feeling of I have a tool that I can use to protect myself here at home. Go with Sabre. Their products are what you need. Sabre radio.coms a b r e radio.com that's s a b r e radio.com you'll say 15% or call 844-824 safe 844-824 safe.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

This is the end of the age of terror and death and the beginning of the age of faith and Hope and of God. It's the start of a grand concord and lasting harmony for Israel and all the nations of what will soon be a truly magnificent region. I believe that so strongly. This is the historic dawn of a new Middle East.

[Buck Sexton]

Dawn of a new Middle East. That was President Trump speaking to. Well, everything that's going on right now we're talking about today. And we're joined by Robin Van Eaton. She is the US CEO and Global COO of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, which is a much appreciated partner here on the show. Robin played a pivotal role in our trip, or rather Clay and Ali's trip to Israel last December and accompanied them to Hashtid Square and the Knesset. Clay met with Speaker Amir Ohana and the IFCJ and Robin were instrumental in that. And Speaker Ohana was standing right next to Trump today. Robin, thank you so much for being with us.

[Robin Van Eaton]

Oh, thank you, Clay. I'm sorry. Thank you, Beck, for having me. It's so wonderful to be with you on this incredibly historic day.

[Buck Sexton]

Just share with us, if you would, the feelings of those who. Well, at the Fellowship and the supporters and people you're speaking to in Israel. And I just wanted your perspective on what today really means. You heard President Trump there saying, the dawn of a new Middle east is upon us.

[Robin Van Eaton]

Yes, it's really incredible. We just came off an event on the Mall in Washington, D.C. where we literally had tens of thousands of Christians praying for Israel and thanking God for their return. And I think about my colleagues in Israel and over the last two years who have told me time and time again that they could never move forward. They could never have closure. They could never really start to rebuild their lives and rebuild their nation until those hostages were returned. And to see that day finally arrive is just truly a miracle, and it is a testament to the faith of so many. But certainly want to say thank you to President Trump and to Prime Minister Netanyahu as well as their teams, who I know worked tirelessly for months to make this happen. But I also want to acknowledge the millions of Christians who have stood by Israel during these last two years have never wavered in their support. It has been their love, their commitment to Israel and the Jewish people, who I believe have played a pivotal role in getting us to this moment.

[Buck Sexton]

I know that you and the Fellowship had a lot of contact with the families of the hostages that were being held, and now 20 of them have returned home as of today to their families. What? In this whole process, you've been speaking to them. I know they've been through a horrific ordeal. Are they willing to go so far as to say that they believed that President Trump was the one who was able to make this happen?

[Robin Van Eaton]

I can't speak specifically to the hostage families, but from what I have certainly seen in many interviews with family members, they have definitely express that. I think we've seen it on the streets and at Freedom Square now in Tel Aviv, where they have overwhelmingly acknowledged that President Trump, that this could not have happened without his leadership in making this happen. I think from the beginning when we first saw the first hostages come home, it has really been a testament to his tenacity to make sure and even on this last round where he said, no, we're not going to have him, you know, another two or three hostages here and there, we want all 20 as well as the deceased returned and it happened. And so he deserves a tremendous amount of credit. And we have the Fellowship has supported the hostage families since October 7th. We've provided nearly a million dollars in direct aid to those families. And we're also focusing now on how do we help those families start to recover. And it's about now renewal and certainly the resilience. But we have invested quite significantly in what we're calling a Return to Life center at Sheba Medical Center. This will provide holistic care, medical, psychological and social for the hostages that have returned their families. It is a world class hospital and we are so proud to be a part of, of supporting their efforts in renovating and providing equipment for this to be hopefully a home and a center to help these families and these hostages restore their lives. And wishing nothing but the best for all of them and may they just rest of their lives be full, prosper and be full of good memories and many blessings.

[Buck Sexton]

Robin Van Eeden, US CEO and Global COO of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Robin, really appreciate you joining us. Thanks for being here today.

[Robin Van Eaton]

Thank you so much, Puck. Really appreciate it. I just want to also say thank you to you and to Clay for being such staunch supporters of Israel, never wavering, always staying committed. And I can't tell you how important your voice has been over the last two years. So just a personal thank you from me and from the Fellowship. We are deeply grateful for, for the support that I know you will continue to give Israel and the Jewish people. But thank you for everything.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, thank you. Well, you're very welcome, Robin. And thank you for being here with us. And it was an easy thing to do because it was the right thing to do. And that always simplifies the equation. When you know what is right, when you know who the good guys are, so to speak, and what they are up against, it's not hard to lend your voice to, to their cause. I have seen some of the commentary even on the right, I've seen some of the commentary from people saying how can it be America first to be so concerned with what's going on in Israel? To this I just say, first of all, President Trump, who built the America first movement, is the one who is now taking the much deserved victory laps for bringing about this peace, which is a good thing for everyone all over the place in the Middle east, here at home, a destabilized Middle east with ascendant terror groups. Yes, it results in instability over there. It also results in buses full of passengers blowing up in London. It results in trains exploding in Madrid during rush hour. It results in trucks running people over in the south of France almost a hundred at a time. And of course in our country, a lot of jihadist terror attacks, including nine, 11 and others. So, yeah, we don't want to be dealing with this mess and this nonsense and stabilization of the region and putting reliable and reasonable partners in positions to be able to do their own housekeeping, so to speak. Talking about the Saudis, the Emiratis, you know, again, I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm not looking at this with rose colored glasses. But at least now there's a realistic prospect of things getting substantially better. And that hasn't been the case in a very long time. I think about the years of the Obama administration in the Middle east with the rise of ISIS and the Syrian civil war, I mean, just a disaster. The whole thing was just a giant disaster. Joe Biden, you have to go back and it's hard to even believe this. Joe Biden was the Obama era foreign policy brain. Think about that for a second. Okay? Joe Biden, even without the dementia, didn't know his, you know, brain from his butt. I mean, it's crazy that this guy was supposed to be the architect of foreign policy, specifically in the Middle East. I mean, not just as the bagman for Hunter to go to Ukraine and get lots of cash. That Joe Biden was supposed to be involved in this kind of diplomacy and, and strategy. It just goes to show you how utterly unserious the Democrats are on this and everything else too, because they fancy themselves New York Times subscribers and citizens of the world. They have this completely outdated and I would say unsubstantiated belief that they, meaning the Democrats and the left in this country are more worldly and therefore more insightful, more responsible on foreign policy. And all we have seen is the exact opposite of that over and over again. All of the evidence points against that perception, all of it. And even some of these supposed leading lights of the Democrat Party, Hillary Clinton, hello, Barack Obama, they are supposed to be the ones that were capable of getting deals like this. And actually all they did was make everything worse. Trump with no foreign policy experience within the government system, right. Obviously, a lot of international deals and travel and dealmaking, but before he becomes president, no foreign policy experience. And look what his team is accomplishing, look what they have been able to do. And he has laid out all these different conflicts that aren't getting nearly as much attention. Is this, but calming things down in Southeast Asia, in South Asia, in with army, with Armenia and Azerbaijan. He's going in there, he's saying, hey, guys, let's really do. Let's really do this so that it's done and people stop dying. This is where you start to have to think about this as Trump is a great humanitarian, he's a great businessman, but he's a great humanitarian, too, because his business dealings and background and acumen are allowing, are really the cause of, and allowing these kinds of agreements to be reached which result in fewer people dying for no darn good reason in all these different conflicts all over the place. Right. So I think that we do have to give credit where it is due here. And that means letting Trump take a healthy bow on this and understand that, yes, tomorrow is another day. There are still challenges. It's the Middle East, Things could get messed up fast. But I have not thought that there was even the, the, a scintilla of the basis for optimism in that region anywhere near what we are seeing right now. I've never seen anything like it. And you're not just hearing me on this. A lot of people are saying this, including people who just hate Trump, Trump's guts. But they have to. They have to say what is so manifestly true. So, yeah, it's just, you know, take, take the good ones, my friend. We got to be. We're talking about the upcoming Virginia governor's race. I'm going to tell you, the Democrat candidate there is a train wreck. I'm still worried she's going to win. Train wreck. So we're going to get back into some of these things here probably tomorrow. So that's why I'm telling you, in the meantime, really let yourself take in what has happened here, what's gone on here. So Clay is is out for this hour, so I cannot share with you any particular picks. I do know that Mr. Saquon is a phenomenal athlete and very good for the sports, but I don't know much beyond that because I don't watch football. But Prize Picks is incredible and it's a lot of fun because even I can get in on the Prize picks. Clay does the pick does the picks and and I can get the prize, so to speak, if I go along with it. Prize Picks a lot of fun. 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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist or rolled their eyes or just asked why Benghazi?

[Buck Sexton]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Buck Sexton]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leon Neyfak]

Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit.

[Caller / Listener]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Buck Sexton]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Neyfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Buck Sexton]

We're closing up shop today on Clay and Buck. Clay will be back tomorrow. We just have a fantastic morning week of shows for you this week, I can tell you that much right now, so that's something to look forward to. Also want to tell you to go check out the Clay and Buck podcast network. We got Carol Markowitz, Dave Rutherford, we got Tudor Dixon, Ryan Gardusky, oh. Chef Gruel launched his podcast with us because we got, we even got conservative. We got right wing chefs. Everybody, we are, we are building out the roster. And you. So you get, you get excellent. He's a fantastic chef. You get excellent cooking tips and a little dose of right wing cultural sanity from, from Chef Gruel. So go check. Right, Ali. Producer Ali. I'm. He's. He's launched with us already. Right. I'm not getting ahead of this. Yes. Ok. Just making sure he is, he is out there. And what was one of the. Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you a great tip from Chef Gruel. I'm attributing it to him, but just to give you a sense of this, because I hadn't even really thought of this. I have tended to be, in my cooking excursions, which are frequent. I tend to be a salt at the end guy. Because first of all, if you put too much cracked pepper, I'm thinking about meats now, like not Polish sausage. All right, smarty pants. I'm talking like steaks, things like that. You put too much of the pepper on it and you can actually burn pepper corns. From what I understand, you don't want to do that. So you want to pepper and salt at the end for sure with your steaks, burgers, things like that. But Chef Gruel says make sure that you salt as you go with different things because if you're going to be mixing it in, especially, you know, if you're making like turkey burgers or something, you don't want to just salt the. The at the end. You want to season and salt as you go. I was like, that's a great tip and that you would get from the podcast with Chef Gruel. So go check that out. Let's see. We have Ben in Indiana, wants to talk. What's going on? Ben?

[Caller / Listener]

Hey, thanks for having me on the show. It's my first time calling. I wanted to switch gears a little bit and talk about the Virginia gubernatorial race because often that race is a bellwether for the midterms the following year, as it was in 2018, for sure, I was a little worried until the debate last week between Winston Sears and Abigail Spanberger. During that debate, Winston Sears had her Ronald Reagan moment, was able to link her to the far and crazy left by two things, by two points. One, Abigail Spanberger is still in favor of, you know, chemical castration and the transing of children. Number two, she still endorses Jay Jones for attorney general in Virginia. That's the guy, if you're not aware, who wished death on his political opponent and his children. So both of those things were highlighted. They came out during the debate for the first time. I have some hope in this Virginia race.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, we're going to get into this tomorrow, my friend. I can assure you of that. That's why you got to choose into the Clan Buck show every day, because, you know, every day is a new and exciting adventure. And the Virginia governor's race is going to be part of tomorrow's adventure, among other things. So make sure you join us for that. But, yes, I agree with you. It's very, very important to see how that one goes. We've also got the New Jersey governor's race and the mayor's race in New York City, and we are just a couple weeks away from decision day on all that. So, oh, yeah, we're going to have politics for you here. This is how we roll on clay and buck. We do Middle east peace, cooking tips, governor's races. We cover it all. Friends, honored to have you hanging out with us. More tomorrow.

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Jim]

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[Leon Neyfak]

I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why Benghazi?

[Buck Sexton]

The truth became a web of lies.

[Leon Neyfak]

From prologue projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

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[Leon Neyfak]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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