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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us Thursday edition. I bet that some of you are starting maybe to put one foot out the door. Memorial Day weekend starts in earnest. Maybe for some of you already might be tipping back a few drinks. I just went downstairs and the Travis boys have all finished school for the year and I understand some of you are like, what? We start early down here in August a lot of times, especially for football season. But so my kids are all done. So for the next two and a half months, if you hear screaming in the background in my house, it's probably kids fighting over video game controllers because they are home for the summer. I promise that they are fine. But I asked you this off air, Buck and I tweeted about it here. As we get into the third hour, is there any adult joy that is as pure as the joy of a kid getting out of school for the entire summer? Like every person who is out there listening to me right now, just thinking about how joyful that made you when you were a kid is experiencing that from a nostalgic perspective. There are significant life moments as adults, kids, marriages, buying a home. All of these different things that are great. Maybe for some of you, retirement. I don't know what it feels like to walk out of a job and be like, I'm never doing that again. I'm done. Maybe there is a adult experience retirement style, but I can't remember anything that is just more freeing than being the kid walking out of school. Hey, that year is over, buddy. Nothing else to worry about. The big long stretch of summer. Can you think of anything as an adult that is the Equivalent of that.
Buck Sexton
No. And it's, I think the first thing, the first time as a, as a kid you experience overwhelming joy, with the possible exception of like the perfect Christmas morning, which I think is also perhaps, you know, very, very nice moment for a lot of you, for a lot of kids. But, you know, it reminds me, I don't know, our school system the way that we have it all set up. I have pretty radical ideas on this. Maybe this isn't the right forum for it, but I think the whole. I think kids are in school for far too long. I think that school day is, is basically glorified childcare for most people. I think people should spend more time with their families. I think that education has been made more democratized online than ever before. And I'm not saying no, obviously it was a big, a big proponent of in person learning during COVID I'm not saying get rid of school. I'm just saying, I mean, I, I look, I just remember, I remember being in school, particularly high school, but being in school, it felt like all the time and always being tired all the time.
Clay Travis
I think all day long.
Buck Sexton
I think that's all the time. Yeah. And that's not good. That's actually not the way you should go through life. We wouldn't, we wouldn't accept that as adults. And people are saying, well, how bad is. It's like. No, like getting, getting up early in the morning to practice for sports teams or finishing sports games at nine o' clock at night and then having two hours of homework or three hours of homework. I mean, I went to a pretty intense place for high school, but this is not the way it should be. I. Anyway, I know I'm a little bit of a. Schools are a little bit more like prison than we want to, than we want to admit. It's a little.
Clay Travis
And I didn't expect a school out to turn into their prisons.
Buck Sexton
Well, I feel a little bit like, like you're the guy in the Shawshank Redemption when he gets out of prison finally, on that last day of school. Should it feel like that or should it be, oh, I'm going to miss everybody around me. I never missed everybody. I was like, get me out of here.
Clay Travis
Well, so I loved school. But I will say that my eyes opened a bit on the homeschooling thing. When I talk to a lot of homeschooling parents and they say, hey, you know, we can get through the entire lesson in two or three hours.
Buck Sexton
Yes.
Clay Travis
And then the kids are able to experience other things.
Buck Sexton
Yes.
Clay Travis
Now the challenge is what do your kids do with all that extra time? Because my kids would play video games and like so I think how that time is used. Every kid is different. But I have in all honesty I feel incredibly fortunate as a parent. All of my kids will go public school K to 6. So in our neighborhood we have a fabulous school. In our, in our community I feel like we've gotten amazing teachers. I feel really fortunate. They are kindergarten to sixth grade. Even during COVID it was obviously retrospect they should have never shut down schools to finish that year. But my kids are back in school in August of 2020 full go all those things. And the 7th through 12th grade school that my boys go to is also fabulous. So I feel like they're getting good options but a lot of parents don't. People should barely feel that way.
Buck Sexton
And someone I really like on the you guys have heard me. I don't know if he'd. If he'd come on if we're really his, his speed but I've always. I like this guy at a Silicon Valley naval Ravikant who's pro. You know he's become a. He's one of the pro Trump Silicon Valley guys now. You know, he's like the all in guys. He's just really, really smart and has a lot of brilliant things to say on a whole range of issues. You've seen him, he's, he's appeared on, on a lot of the big podcasts and he's a guy clay who like you effectively unlimited resources for his children and he, he does homeschooling and like tries to maximize their freedom be as long as they have the like they do the lesson planning or whatever it is they have to do. So he takes a very. And he went to an elite high school in New York and everything. And you know he's one of these guys right who he did all the, all the bells and whistles stuff in the education world himself. And now he's just like I don't think that this really, really needs to be done. Here's some interesting stuff. When you actually look at this you find out that because people say well what about you know, look at the American educational system. It wasn't really until we were largely herded into factories and offices that the notion of a nine months of the year and nine to five essentially. I mean maybe nine to three in most schools school day was, was the norm. The school. You can. I just, just googled this for fun. I mean I knew that this was roughly the case that all throughout the 19th century, I understand different time and everything, but pre industrial America, yes, people had helped their families on the farms, et cetera, but students went to school about 78 days a year. Now, just think about this for a second. Someone like Abraham Lincoln would have grown. You know, you say Abraham Lincoln went to school. Someone like Abraham Lincoln or his era, they would have gone to school for two or three, you know, the equivalent of like three months, something like that. Like, yeah. And you're able to learn a lot in those three months. My point is that so much of school is wasted because so much of school is just to have adults who are paid to watch children so they don't, you know, stab themselves in the eye with a pencil or, like, run out in front of a train or something. It's really not about kids can't learn for eight hours a day. Am I too radical and crazy on this? Kids cannot learn for eight hours. Clay, you and I can't learn for eight hours. I finished this show. My wife tries to talk to me and she's like, you're like a mummy for an hour. I'm like, yeah, because I've just put it all out there for three hours, I think.
Clay Travis
So here is, by the way, there's Supreme Court decision today in schooling that came down tied. 4.
Buck Sexton
4.
Clay Travis
So Oklahoma does not have the right to have charter religious schools. And that's a simplification. Amy Coney Barrett recused herself. So the Oklahoma Supreme Court decision stands because there was not a majority in the court. Here's what I believe.
Buck Sexton
Am I totally nuts? Like. Like, no. Let me.
Clay Travis
Well, so here is. Here's my concern about much of schooling. It is that we have stopped, to a large extent, experimenting with how children are taught, and we are just throwing money at it. And a lot of kids are being failed by the process.
Buck Sexton
Well, that's because it's a jobs program. It's not about the kids. And it's about the teachers unions getting their perks and their bennies and not actually about, you know, stuff going for the kids the best way that it can.
Clay Travis
Now, again, I feel, because I was a public school kid, K through 12, my seventh to 12th grade, I felt like I couldn't have gotten a better education. My kids, K to 6 and 7 12, I think, because we have the resources. But public school K to 6 has been fabulous for them. And then our 7 to 12th grade is great, too. I do what again? When I looked at the homeschooling concepts, one of the things that I think we do a really poor job of. And this is me getting on my soapbox now, as a parent with three kids in school, much of what our kids are taught they will never actually use in their real life.
Buck Sexton
Oh, man, I could go. I go off on this.
Clay Travis
All this gets me really fired up. For instance, I grew out, I thought I went to a great school. I graduated. Nobody ever sat down and talked to me about how mortgages work or about what carries.
Buck Sexton
Personal finance should be something that everybody learns.
Clay Travis
High school age, very basic stuff. You know, balance a checkbook is old school. But just talking about life skills, I understand some of you have gone on and my father in law is an engineer. At no point in life have I ever needed to find the hypotenuse of a triangle or apply the Thaggerian theorem. And I understand you're like, well, you're really just teaching your brain how to think. I think there are other things I could have taught my brain how to think that would have been more useful in my life. And so I feel like we really would benefit from basic economic training, from basic probability and statistics being embedded in school learning, and that many of the things that are a part of our regular curriculum are to a large extent useless. And that doesn't mean that if you are intrigued by something that you shouldn't be able to pursue it. Because the reality is, look, I majored in history undergrad. I'm never going to stop reading history books. And if you told me tomorrow, hey, you are basically finite in the education that you have received. I want to learn something new every day, and I want to remain intellectually curious, and those are important assets to have. But I feel like a dogmatic training schedule where you teach a lot of kids things they don't need. It doesn't make sense. And by the way, for shop, too, like, I was reading a great story and more power to it. I think it's Philadelphia, where they're teaching kids how to weld. If you know you're not going to go to college, these kids are getting hired. I think it's a front page Wall street journal. I read $75,000 a year and they're being trained how to weld in school. And they come out and they're getting recruited. I mean, that's fabulous. Like, why don't we have more things like this?
Buck Sexton
If people, if people think that that Doge found a lot of waste, fraud and abuse in the federal government. If you actually looked at the realities of public education in this country and what is what is foisted upon people and what we're paying for, especially with your property taxes and everything else. It's a car. It's just a giant cartel. And it really is set up. It was never set up for the benefit of children. It was set up to be a babysitting program so that adults could go to their offices or their factories and, and labor. And that is the whole. That is the whole point of it. That just like in the Soviet Union, by the way, I mean, this is what they actually wanted. Ever. This is going back to the Industrial revolution, the early 1900s. And that's when all of a sudden you have people going to school for most of the year, five days a week. You know, notice how it aligns with what adults need for their work schedules. I'm just saying, Clay, I mean, just to take this really simply. Do you think you could have learned. I know you, you, you enjoyed. Look, I had a good grammar school experience. I thought my high school was a little too intense and a little too nerdy. I mean, I'm not, I'm not particularly fond of the place, but do you think you could have learned the same amount of stuff with. With half of the classroom instruction? But I'm certain that I could have.
Clay Travis
I went to law school.
Buck Sexton
I think I'm talking about young. Young, forget about.
Clay Travis
No, but I think it extends into grad school, perhaps even more. I had to go to law school for three years to take the bar exam. I think if you had told me you have six months, as you used to have to study to take the bar exam.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, you should just be able to pass the bar exam and not have to go to law school and you.
Clay Travis
Could be a lawyer. Back in the day, Andrew Jackson, you apprenticed and you got to look at the books and you got to memorize all the stuff. I think if you had told me you have six months to study aggressively all of the law and then you will take the bar exam. I think I could have passed the bar exam with six months of preparation. Instead, they made me. And look, I loved Vanderbilt Law School. I met my wife there. Some of my best friends are there. It was an incredible three year experience, but it basically is a barrier to being able to become a lawyer because you have to spend whatever it is, a quarter million dollars now to go to law school to then be able to have the right to take the bar exam. I think a lot of this is blocking out achievement.
Buck Sexton
Thinking. Thinking a little bit outside the box in this, you know, Clay, you're a very sociable guy and a lot of grad school based on and I remember I went into getting, I went into media instead of grad school. So I looked at this decision. It was just because I didn't want to rack up all the debt and I always wanted to work in media and it kind of just fell on my lap. Thank you Glenn. But you know, you would have made connect. It's to make connections and it's social proof essentially for a lot of people. And, and you know you would have made connections and found your social proof otherwise we know without spending. But you know, we needed you to meet Laura. I'm not saying that but you know what I'm saying, like well, I just.
Clay Travis
Think I am, I am sympathetic for people who could be. So one of the things I again nerd out on is to me the job of any government should be to allow the largest number of people to have the greatest possible success based on individual liberty to pursue whatever their talent is. I think around a lot of time now Buck, how many kids out there don't maximize their ability because of barriers that are put in place that are not particularly beneficial? In other words, the most brilliant lawyer in America might not be able to have the money to go to law school. And that doesn't seem right to me.
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Buck Sexton
All right, welcome back to Clay and Buck. Take a call here real quick. Jonna in Tampa, you're up. Hello? Hello, Johnna in Tampa. Yes. Hey, you got about 30 seconds. Go ahead.
Caller
I just wanted to say that my family chose homeschooling when my kids were at young ages and we never looked back. We had the option to do a lot of different schools, and we started out in a private school. And at second grade, I said, you know what? I can do this. I can give my family the character training that I want them to have. I can teach them American history from the right perspective. I can go as fast or as slow as we want to in every class, do as many sports as we want to. And we were involved in so many activities. We traveled. It was amazing.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Rolling through the Thursday edition of the program, we're joined now by the Bluegrass State's own Daniel Cameron, running for the Senate seat to be vacated by Mitch McConnell next year. And first of all, I'll start with this. We have not talked about it a great deal, but I know the state of Kentucky, along with Missour, was slammed by tornadoes over the last several days and over the last week. I'm sure that has been a major part of what you have been seeing and talking about in the state. How are people doing so far as you can tell us?
Podcast Host
DANIEL well, Clay, Buck, thank you guys for having us on yet. I mean, heartbreaking to see the lives lost in parts of our community, particularly in the Somerset and London community, Pulaski and Laurel County. It was obviously just completely heartbreaking to lose folks and the devastation that occurred. We've been encouraging people to help out the London Police Department, they're collecting goods. I've also encouraged people to go to Samaritan's Purse and American Red Cross. So there are a few different outlets. And obviously the communities, local churches, really vital to helping rebuild and getting folks back on their feet. But it's going to be a long process. In fact, I'll be down there on Saturday to visit with some folks. But yeah, thanks for thanks for bringing that up because I know folks all across the country have been praying for those communities in particular. We had storms all across the state, but those communities in particular were hit really hard. So thank you for bringing that up. And yeah, if anybody wants to give to, I mean, again, the Samaritan's Purse, American Red Cross, local churches down in those areas certainly would be grateful.
Clay Travis
I know it's early and the election is not until next year that is the Republican primary to set up who's going to be running to replace Mitch McConnell on that side. But what does the focus seem to be to you so far as you travel the state of Kentucky and hear from people about issues they care about the most?
Podcast Host
Yeah, Clay, I mean, I think people want a senator from Kentucky that is going to stand with President Trump and help support an agenda that is about building back, building back up our middle class and the working men and women of this country. President Trump campaigned on that. That's what this big, beautiful bill is about, is making sure that we can lower people's taxes so they have more money in their pockets. And this is an administration that is about securing our border, fighting the drug epidemic. It's about creating energy independence in this country. That's a big deal. In Kentucky. We are a commonwealth that to the extent we have a competitive advantage, it's about our fossil fuels industry. It's coal and natural gas. And having a president in the White House that recognizes that in order to have energy independence, we have to have and prioritize our fossil fuels, that's a big deal. And so Kentuckians want a senator that's going to stand up for their values, fight for the Trump agenda. And I'm going to do that. And I've got a track record of having done that as Attorney General. You know, there will be people that jump into this race, but what you will never hear somebody say is that there's going to be somebody that's more conservative and more supportive of the Trump administration than Daniel Cameron, because there's not going to be. I've shown it with my record and I'm led by conviction. I mean, right now, in my current day job, I'm fighting diversity, equity and inclusion. I'm fighting against ESG because these are convictions. These are core convictions for me. And I want to take that spirit and that energy to the United States Senate and fight on behalf of Kentuckians. And that's why I'm going to win. Come. You're right, we're about a little less than a year away from the May primary, but I'm in a strong position given all the polling right now. I think the most recent poll had me up 30 points to my next closest competitor. We're going to win this primary. We're going to win the general as well. And I want as many people to get on board as they possibly can. I mean, I tell people all the time, go to Cameron for Kentucky.com, check us out. Certainly would be grateful for the help and support.
Clay Travis
When you, you ran against Andy Beshear in the, in the governor's race, it seems like Andy Beshear is going to try to run for president of the United States in 20. And I know you're running for the Senate, but when you look around at the candidates that the Democrat Party is putting forward, we talk a lot on this program about how young men, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, are breaking away from the Democrat Party. And, you know, I really say men, you know, younger than the age of 45, for instance, certainly 18 to 24 year olds off the charts. Why do you think that is? And do you see that reflected when you travel around in the state of Kentucky?
Podcast Host
Absolutely. I mean, you know that, you know, men in particular want somebody that's not going to demean them, is not going to belittle them, is not going to tell them that they are the problem in every circumstance. And President Trump spoke to men of all races. He spoke to men across this country in a way that candidly Republican and Democrat just hadn't done. And I think men have been gravitating to the Republican Party because, again, they're tired of a Democratic Party that belittles them and tells them again that they are the issue to every problem in this country. President Trump has been strong in support of, frankly, people of all walks of life. But the reason that men of different races have been coming to the Republican Party is because, again, this is a party that says, hey, it's okay to be a man, it's okay to be strong, it's okay to be a leader. And you don't have to apologize for that. And the Democrats, for whatever reason, have decided to double and triple down on this ideology that tells you it's okay for men to play in women's sports, that we somehow need to be afraid of masculinity. Again, President Trump says let's disregard that. Let's focus on men being leaders, working hard, providing for their families. And I hear that from people all across Kentucky that are tired of a Democratic Party that, you know, candidly has tried to diminish the importance of men in our society. And, you know, again, President Trump has recognized that, has looked for ways to make sure men know that this is a party that supports them and is going to value them.
Clay Travis
We're talking to Daniel Cameron running for Senate in Kentucky. I don't know if you've seen this news yet, but you played college football at Louisville. There is news now that the top 12 teams are going to make the college Football playoff in order they're going to be seated that way. That is just broken in the last 15 or 20 minutes. Do you expect if you go on and I think you will become the next senator from Kentucky, do you expect that your Louisville Cardinal will, during your first term in office, make the College Football Playoff? Would that be an expectation in six years?
Podcast Host
Clay, on the first point, I did play football U of L, but play is a very generous term. I tell people I had, I had a front row seat to the best team in the house when I was sitting on the bench. But, but hey, man, look, hope springs eternal. I believe in Coach Brom. Look, I believe wholeheartedly that within the first six years we're going to have a UofL football team that is playing for the in the playoffs and hopefully competing ultimately for that national championship. That's my hope. Again, I, you know, Jeff, Coach Brom was one of the quarterbacks coaches when I, when I was playing. And they just, the Brahms have a heart for not only the university, but for the community. And I know that's on their heart to push and to strive to get us in that national championship game. So I'm hopeful that will happen. I'm hoping it'll happen on the earlier side of my term and not towards the end. You know, our fans, our fans are like Tennessee fans. They're like all fans. They want success immediately. So let's make sure we get them there early as opposed to the latter end of that first term.
Clay Travis
All right, so last question for you. We just had the Kentucky Derby a couple of weeks ago. Buck and I were up there last year. It was fabulous for pit. Now, I know you're a Louisville guy, but one of the coolest things obviously is the Derby, but also Keeneland is pretty fabulous. And a lot of UK people tell me that the combo and I still haven't done it. The combo of Kentucky football and Keeneland race day is one of the best days for a sports fan anywhere. Even as a U of a U of L guy, even as a Louisville guy, would you give him that nod and say Keeneland plus UK football day is pretty tough to beat?
Podcast Host
That's a, that's a hard, that is a hard day to beat, regardless of where you are in the country. I mean, there's no better atmosphere than spending a little time at Keeneland and then at the, you know, for UK football game as well. And I'll just say, you know, in that circumstance, not only do you get to tailgate once, but you get to tailgate twice because people tailgate before they go into the Keeneland and then you tailgate before you go into the football game. So. Yeah, I mean, I don't think you can, you can argue with that position. Look there, look, I'm excited to be in a, in a, in a commonwealth, in a state where we've got candidly like two, roughly two programs right now that like are really trying to get their act together. I mean, it makes the whole state better. I mean, you know how rivalries work, man, when both teams are playing well or, you know, trying to contend, whether it's in the SEC or the acc, that's a good thing for our state. So I'm, you know, I'm hopeful that, you know, next time you guys decide to come up for the combo man, you're going to invite me to tag along with you.
Clay Travis
We're going to try to do it this fall. I'm looking forward to it. Daniel Cameron, where can people find you if they're interested in following along with the Senate race?
Podcast Host
Yeah, look, again, I encourage your listeners to go to Cameron4Kentucky.com join us, help us. If you want to give us some financial support, we'd be grateful for that as well. But again, this is for our kids and our grandkids. This is for making sure we have a merit based opportunity to society as opposed to what we've seen from the DEI bunch. This is about restoring that American dream, helping President Trump push forward on his agenda for the American worker, for the men and women of this commonwealth and country. So I hope you'll join us. Come on and let's go win this thing.
Clay Travis
Outstanding stuff as always. We appreciate you and we will talk to you again soon. Good luck on the campaign.
Podcast Host
I appreciate you, brother. God bless you.
Clay Travis
That's Daniel Cameron. You can check him out as he just laid it out. And Buck is going to be back here in a second. I'm going to really let him kind of pour his sorrows out as a longtime New York Nick fan with the collapse that they had in last night's game. But Oklahoma City is rolling right now. Minnesota Timberwolves are in the mix. We got four different teams still live in the NHL and if you're a Major league baseball fan, pretty much every night you've got a big game to be able to follow. Why not go ahead and get hooked up? You can play along with price picks. You get fifty dollars when you place a five dollar game pick. All you have to do, use my name, clay, you get 50 bucks. Not very many. Times we say as part of an advertisement. Hey, if you go to prizepix.com use code clay when you play $5, you'll get back $50. That's a 10 to 1 return. You can play in California, you can play in Texas, you can play in Georgia. Super easy. 30 states plus 13 million people have downloaded this app. All you have to do is pick more or less on your favorite athletes, put them together, two to six different combos and you can be well on your way to having an awesome time. Prizepix.com Code Clay that is prizepix.com Code clay.
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Why.
Clay Travis
Should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on Demand?
Buck Sexton
We're not boring.
Clay Travis
A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
Podcast Host
How about something about a comedic tone?
Clay Travis
We have a winner. Yes, listen to Armstrong, you Getty on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Leon Nayfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
Buck Sexton
Did you make a mistake in sending.
Podcast Host
Arms to Tehran, sir?
Clay Travis
No.
Leon Nayfak
It became known as the Iran Contra.
Podcast Host
Affair, and I'm not taking any more questions.
Buck Sexton
In just a second, I'm going to.
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Podcast Host
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane I can't begin to tell you.
Buck Sexton
Please do.
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Buck Sexton
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're closing up shop for the day. Make sure you check out the Clay and Buck Podcast network today and over this long holiday weekend. Which reminds me, Clay's got you solo tomorrow. I'm, I'm, I'm gonna be taking on little man Judy as I call him in the morning. Mr. James Speed and I, we're gonna make sure Carrie can. One thing I've realized, Clay, at this stage, gotta make sure that your wife, or this case, my wife, like, gets to be with other adults sometimes and gets to get out of the house sometimes.
Clay Travis
Very valuable and important for young babies and mom health. Insanity. Yes.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. So I'm gonna be. I'm a mean, lean, bottle feeding, diaper changing machine at this point, everybody. I'm, I'm skilled in the arts of dad baby stuff. At least I've gotten pretty, pretty good at this. Let's take some calls and also some talk backs this gg Talk back. Clay, Richard in Louisville wants to call you out.
Podcast Host
Hey guys, this is Richard here from Louisville. Just wanted to tell you I did need the Pythagorean theorem. I'm a master electrician with Local 369. And that's one of the exact formulas that we use in the apprenticeship to figure out several different things. Never did I think I would use it. I wished I understood it better back then and why I needed it now.
Buck Sexton
Clay, first of all, you're getting called out for being a Pythagorean doubter. But also he clearly was on like the electrician machine room floor or whatever there.
Clay Travis
Yeah, he was. He was working hard there, giving us a call about it. I have. If there's kids getting out of school listening to me right now, I know it's going to fly in the face of everything you've been told. Much of what you use in geometry I have never used in my entire life. And I've also never thought, boy, I really wish that I knew geometry better now. I've wished that I understood mortgages better. I wish that I understood, as we were talking about off the air, how compound interest works. I wish I knew how to read a balance sheet better. There are lots of things I wish I had been taught.
Buck Sexton
There should be a day in every high school across America in like eighth grade or ninth grade or whatever, where they're just like, this is compound interest day, everybody. Buddy, because you, you think that saving some money from your summer job or from your, you know, from whatever, also bringing back kids working in their teen years. I tutored for money. You know, you had jobs for money, like doing things, you make, you know, $15 an hour, $20 an hour. That doesn't seem like to a lot of people now they're like, oh, I have to be an influencer on TikTok to make any money. Well, actually, you can save money and build up real wealth if you have a steady as she goes approach to things and understand compound interest. So, Heather, and in Nashville, by the way, I bet she teaches her boys in her homeschool program about compound interest. What's going on, Heather?
Caller
Hey, how are you guys doing?
Clay Travis
Fantastic.
Caller
Great. I caught a little bit about your homeschool just a few seconds, and I just wanted to share with you. I've homeschooled for four years. My daughter is a sophomore, going to be a junior at a private school in Nashville. She got a 75% scholarship. My son just graduated Saturday, and he got a full scholarship. He's a National merit scholar. And I'm just kind of looking back after it all. You know, it's a lot of hard days and all, but I just wouldn't trade it for anything. I was just adding it up, like, over 20,000 hours that he had not sitting in a classroom. And, you know, everybody has to make their own choices. But, I mean, he was able to pursue his passions. I mean, he loves to crochet. He got, like, best in show at the Williamson County Fair because of his crochet. He runs. He ran a marathon. He's had time. He actually, thankfully, we were able to partner up with the public school system. He ran cross country and track, so he had that full experience. It's been really the best of everything. Just wouldn't have traded it completely.
Clay Travis
Thank you, Heather. Look, we did this for, like, a lot of parents had to. When schools shut down. We went down to Florida for the month of May. My wife was teaching the kids at home. I thought it was fabulous. And somebody reached out to and said, hey, this allows you to be able to travel and experience things during the day in a way you can't. Jimmy. And Boca Raton has been waiting a while. You're also a George Washington University grad.
Podcast Host
Yes.
Clay Travis
Hello, guys.
Buck Sexton
Dittos. And 50 years ago, I went to George Washington University.
Podcast Host
And a year ago, when they put the kefa on the statue of George.
Buck Sexton
Washington right in the middle of the.
Podcast Host
Quad, I called up all my college.
Buck Sexton
Friends and I said to them, which.
Podcast Host
One of you guys would have been holding the ladder as I climbed up.
Buck Sexton
To the top of the statue of George Washington and tried to remove the Kiefer.
Clay Travis
Okay, well, that's a funny idea. Sorry. The show is ending for the day. We'll talk to you guys Tuesday.
Buck Sexton
Clay's got you tomorrow.
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Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand?
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We're not boring.
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A lot of news is boring and.
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Tedious and depressing and makes you angry.
Clay Travis
You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. We're Armstrong and Getty.
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Clay Travis
And help you figure out this crazy modern world.
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How about something about a comedic tone?
Clay Travis
We have a winner.
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Yes. Listen to Armstrong.
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In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
Buck Sexton
Please do.
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Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Hour 3: Daniel Cameron on His Senate Run
Release Date: May 22, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
In this hour-long episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton engage in a comprehensive discussion about the current education system, the merits of homeschooling, and introduce their guest, Daniel Cameron, who is running for the U.S. Senate seat in Kentucky.
Timestamp: 03:20 – 06:46
Clay Travis initiates the conversation by reminiscing about the pure joy children experience when the school year ends, leading into a broader discussion about the adult equivalent of such freedom. Buck Sexton expresses his critical views on the traditional education system, likening schools to "glorified childcare" and emphasizing the excessive time children spend in classrooms.
Clay Travis shares his positive experience with public schooling for his children but acknowledges that many parents do not have access to such quality education.
"I feel incredibly fortunate as a parent. All of my kids will go public school K to 6... a lot of parents don't. People should barely feel that way."
(Timestamp: 07:27)
Buck Sexton underscores the inefficiencies of the current system, comparing it to a prison setup designed more for adult convenience than children's education.
"It's just a giant cartel. And it really is set up. It was never set up for the benefit of children. It was set up to be a babysitting program so that adults could go to their offices or their factories and labor."
(Timestamp: 11:28)
Timestamp: 10:44 – 11:28
The hosts briefly touch upon a recent Supreme Court decision affecting charter religious schools in Oklahoma, highlighting the lack of a majority in the court due to Justice Amy Coney Barrett's recusal.
"Oklahoma does not have the right to have charter religious schools... Amy Coney Barrett recused herself. So the Oklahoma Supreme Court decision stands because there was not a majority in the court."
(Timestamp: 10:44)
This segues into their critique of the education system's stagnation and the need for experimentation rather than merely increasing funding.
Timestamp: 12:19 – 16:05
Clay and Buck delve into the deficiencies of the current curriculum, emphasizing the lack of practical life skills such as personal finance, understanding mortgages, and compound interest.
Clay Travis laments the absence of essential financial education.
"Nobody ever sat down and talked to me about how mortgages work or about what Carries."
(Timestamp: 12:34)
Buck Sexton advocates for integrating personal finance into the education system.
"Personal finance should be something that everybody learns."
(Timestamp: 12:37)
They discuss the potential benefits of vocational training, citing an example from Philadelphia where students trained in welding secured high-paying jobs post-graduation.
"I was reading a great story... training how to weld in school. And they come out and they're getting recruited. I mean, that's fabulous."
(Timestamp: 14:28)
Timestamp: 25:40 – 49:08
The episode features heartfelt calls from listeners who have successfully homeschooled their children, highlighting personalized education and extracurricular achievements.
Caller Jonna from Tampa shares her family's positive homeschooling experience, emphasizing character training and academic scholarships.
"My son just graduated... he got a full scholarship. He's a National Merit Scholar."
(Timestamp: 26:24)
Heather from Nashville recounts her homeschool journey, noting her son’s achievements in crochet and running marathons alongside participation in public school sports.
"It's been really the best of everything. Just wouldn't have traded it completely."
(Timestamp: 47:39)
These testimonials reinforce the hosts' advocacy for alternative education models that prioritize individual interests and practical skills.
Timestamp: 27:21 – 38:52
The highlight of the episode is an in-depth interview with Daniel Cameron, the Attorney General of Kentucky, who is running for the U.S. Senate seat previously held by Mitch McConnell.
a. Addressing Recent Tornado Devastation
Daniel Cameron begins by acknowledging the recent tornadoes that have devastated communities in Kentucky, expressing heartfelt condolences and encouraging donations to relief organizations.
"Heartbreaking to see the lives lost... it's going to be a long process."
(Timestamp: 28:00)
b. Campaign Focus and Political Stance
Cameron outlines his campaign priorities, aligning closely with former President Trump's agenda. He emphasizes:
Support for Trump's Middle-Class Agenda:
"Standing with President Trump and help support an agenda that is about building back our middle class and the working men and women of this country."
(Timestamp: 29:41)
Energy Independence through Fossil Fuels:
"Having a president in the White House that recognizes that in order to have energy independence, we have to prioritize our fossil fuels."
(Timestamp: 30:00)
Opposition to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) Initiatives:
"I'm fighting diversity, equity, and inclusion. I'm fighting against ESG because these are convictions."
(Timestamp: 11:28, inferred from context)
c. Addressing Shifts in Young Voters
Cameron discusses the trend of younger men shifting away from the Democratic Party, attributing it to the GOP's stance on masculinity and leadership.
"Men have been gravitating to the Republican Party because they're tired of a Democratic Party that belittles them."
(Timestamp: 32:33)
d. Optimism for the Senate Race
Confident in his campaign's trajectory, Cameron cites favorable polling and his strong conservative record.
"We're in a strong position given all the polling right now. I think the most recent poll had me up 30 points to my next closest competitor."
(Timestamp: 30:00)
e. Personal Touch: Sports and Community Engagement
Cameron connects with the audience by discussing his love for Louisville football and Keeneland, highlighting the significance of local sports in fostering community spirit.
"There is no better atmosphere than spending a little time at Keeneland and then at the UK football game."
(Timestamp: 36:48)
He expresses his hope to support local teams' success during his term in office.
"I'm hopeful that within the first six years we're going to have a U of L football team that is playing for the playoffs and competing for that national championship."
(Timestamp: 35:01)
f. Closing Remarks
Cameron urges listeners to support his campaign through his website, emphasizing his commitment to restoring the American Dream and supporting the Trump administration's goals.
"This is for our kids and our grandkids. This is for making sure we have a merit-based opportunity to society..."
(Timestamp: 38:07)
Timestamp: 25:40 – 49:08
Throughout the episode, Clay and Buck take calls from listeners who share their homeschooling experiences, reinforcing the hosts' advocacy for alternative education systems. These segments provide real-life examples of the benefits and challenges of homeschooling, adding depth to the conversation on education reform.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts briefly touch on upcoming sports events and tease future discussions, maintaining their signature blend of serious topics and light-hearted banter.
Buck Sexton on Education System:
"It's just a giant cartel. And it really is set up. It was never set up for the benefit of children."
(Timestamp: 14:28)
Daniel Cameron on Campaigning for Trump Agenda:
"There's going to be somebody that's more conservative and more supportive of the Trump administration than Daniel Cameron, because there's not going to be."
(Timestamp: 29:41)
Clay Travis on Practical Education Needs:
"I really wish that I had been taught how compound interest works."
(Timestamp: 46:53)
This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show offers a compelling discussion on the shortcomings of the current education system, the benefits of homeschooling, and provides an insightful interview with Daniel Cameron, shedding light on his Senate campaign and political stance. The blend of personal anecdotes, listener calls, and expert opinions presents a multifaceted view of contemporary issues, making it an engaging listen for those interested in education reform and Kentucky politics.