Hour 3 - Data That Will Blow Your Mind

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Hour 3: Data That Will Blow Your Mind
Release Date: March 20, 2025

In the third hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into compelling data-driven discussions covering political dynamics, corporate battles, and societal trends. Joined by guest Ryan Graduski, the episode offers insightful analysis on the shifting landscape within the Democratic Party, the contentious “war on Tesla,” and the evolving attitudes of white college-educated women. Below is a detailed summary capturing the key points, notable quotes, and overarching themes discussed throughout the episode.

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1. White College-Educated Women and Their Idolization of Zelensky

Clay Travis opens the discussion by highlighting surprising data: an increasing number of college-educated white women are idolizing Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky. He remarks:

“It's very strange for a lot of women who I think have probably, very likely, very few of them ever seen combat, know anything war or the military. But they're all about Zelensky.” [00:00]

This observation sets the stage for exploring the effectiveness of propaganda and the differing priorities among various demographic groups.

Buck Sexton adds humor by comparing this trend to overreliance on literature references:

“Everybody has one friend who reads like one book and tries to analogize everything that ever happened.” [01:06]

2. Internal Struggles Within the Democratic Party

The hosts shift focus to the internal tensions within the Democratic Party, particularly targeting Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. Clay Travis likens the party's current state to the chaos depicted in Lord of the Flies:

“Democrats are turning on Schumer... they all start sharpening sticks and just poking each other with them because they don't know what else to do and there's no real leadership.” [00:00]

Ryan Graduski expands on the implications of these internal conflicts, suggesting that the lack of cohesive leadership could have far-reaching consequences for the party's effectiveness.

3. The "War on Tesla" and Democratic Economic Policies

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the Democrats' antagonistic stance toward Tesla, an emblematic American car company renowned for its innovation and job creation. Clay Travis criticizes Democratic leaders who oppose Tesla, emphasizing the company’s contributions:

“They're publicly rooting against an all-American car company, one that manufactures cars here and employs 80,000 people in Texas.” [04:05]

Buck Sexton questions the rationale behind opposing Tesla, especially in the context of battling climate change:

“If you truly cared about climate change, then the idea that you would want Tesla to fail is the most heretical thing that you could possibly say.” [05:02]

4. Violent Reactions and Public Perception

The conversation escalates as the hosts discuss the aggressive actions taken by certain groups against Tesla, including vandalism and keying of vehicles. Buck Sexton highlights the extreme behaviors:

“They're lighting Tesla's on fire everywhere. People are getting busted on the Tesla cameras, keying Tesla vehicles all over the place, behaving in a fundamentally ridiculous and, frankly, violent manner over this.” [06:00]

Clay Travis reinforces the irrationality of these actions, portraying them as a manifestation of deeper ideological conflicts within society.

5. Defense of Tesla and Elon Musk’s Vision

In response to the attacks on Tesla, the hosts and guest Ryan Graduski fervently defend the company and its CEO, Elon Musk. Buck Sexton asserts Tesla’s market dominance and innovation:

“Tesla makes the best electric vehicle in the world, is my understanding. The people who have Teslas rave about them.” [07:36]

Clay Travis echoes this sentiment, emphasizing Tesla’s role in American manufacturing and technological advancement:

“Tesla is doing great things. It's innovating, it's employing people, it's making incredible products.” [08:49]

6. Data Analysis with Ryan Graduski: Shifts in Voter Demographics

Guest Ryan Graduski, a data analyst from the Numbers Game podcast, provides an in-depth analysis of recent voting trends. He points out that white college-educated women have become increasingly radicalized, moving further to the left due to their comfortable living conditions and lack of immediate existential threats compared to other demographics.

Ryan Graduski states:

“White women with a college degree who are on the left are getting more radicalized, they're getting further to the left, and that's a problem.” [20:34]

He further explores the motivations behind this shift, linking it to extensive consumption of mainstream media and alignment with progressive ideologies on issues such as BLM, trans rights, and climate change.

7. The Future of Democratic Leadership

The hosts and Graduski discuss the potential successors to Schumer within the Democratic Party, highlighting the challenges of finding a capable and fund-raising leader. Clay Travis inquires:

“Who is the best fundraiser on the Democratic side now? Who's under 65?” [25:53]

Ryan Graduski responds by identifying Chuck Schumer's fundraising prowess and mentions emerging figures like Cori Bush and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) as potential leaders, albeit with varying degrees of influence and financial support.

8. Trump’s Enduring Influence and Minority Voter Dynamics

A significant highlight of the episode is the discussion on Donald Trump's sustained support among minority voters and younger demographics. Ryan Graduski shares striking data indicating that Trump garnered unprecedented support among white men under 20:

“75% of white men under 20 voted for Trump. That is the largest demographic of any group ever.” [30:27]

This revelation underscores a broader national trend where minority voters increasingly align with conservative ideologies, challenging traditional party loyalties based on race or ethnicity.

9. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode nears its end, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton reinforce the importance of understanding data to navigate the complex political landscape. They encourage listeners to engage with data-driven analysis to grasp the underlying factors shaping current events.

Buck Sexton concludes:

“The most Republican generation we have seen probably in 60 to 70 years.” [31:39]

The hosts wrap up by acknowledging listener feedback and expressing appreciation for their expanding affiliate network, setting the stage for future discussions and analyses.

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This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show offers a deep dive into the intertwining of politics, corporate dynamics, and societal shifts, underpinned by robust data analysis. Through engaging dialogue and expert insights, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of the forces shaping contemporary American politics and economy.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

Welcome in everybody to the third hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. And we have our friend Ryan Graduski joining us at the bottom to talk about some data and particularly diving into what we learned about college educated, white, college educated women yesterday. They idolized Vladimir Zelinski, which is very strange for a lot of women who I think have probably, very likely, very few of them ever seen combat, know anything war or the military. But they're all about Zelensky. So the propaganda there has clearly, clearly been effective. We'll talk to Ryan about that. Democrats are turning on Schumer, which is not a surprise because they're in the panic phase of things. You know, this is where in, in Lord of the Flies they all start sharpening sticks and just poking each other with them because they don't know what else to do and there's no real leadership. And remember, that's a, it's a great book. You remember reading Lord of the Flies in, in school back in the day.

[Buck Sexton]

Lord of the Flies, Buck, is my argument. Yeah, Everybody has one friend who reads like one book and tries to analogize everything that ever happened. You know, like, not somebody who reads a lot of books. I had a buddy who read like one book in his whole life and it was Lord of the Flies and he would try, he would try to analogize anything that happened to the one book that he had ever read, which was Lord of the Flies.

[Clay Travis]

Well, that's like a lot of people now with Harry Potter, no offense, because I know you read a lot of other things too, and you're a Harry Potter guy, but everything is Voldemort, everything is the Quidditch. You know, the Harry Potter became so dominant.

[Buck Sexton]

At least there are seven Harry Potter's, although a lot of people didn't even read them. They just watched the movies.

[Clay Travis]

I didn't either. So there we go. I probably should get on that. Now we have the Democrats turning at each other, turning on Schumer and we've got all that happening. But I wanted to spend some time here on the, the war on Tesla and how it factors into as well, the Democrat approach to the economy. So let's just, let's look at what's going on here right now. The fact that you have these Democrats openly rooting against a, an all American car company, one that, you know, the cars are manufactured here. I mean, they've got the huge facility in, in Texas. I think 80,000 people work for Tesla Clay. 80,000 jobs. If you believe that climate change is any kind of Threat, never mind existential. You should think that what Tesla is doing because remember, it's not just the cars, it's the technology. It's autonomous driving, it's the interface, it's the battery technology. It's, you know, how far are we from Starlink being able to control all the cars? And maybe we get vtol, so vertical takeoff, you know, and landing for meaning basically flying cars. I mean, things are going to get really interesting in our lifetime, folks. So that's pretty cool, right? Well, not if you're Tim Walls who thinks he can beat you up, I might add. And I mean you not Clay, like you listening to the Tim Walls thinks he can take you in a fight. I think we have legions of great. I think we have legions of guys over 75 that would smoke Tim Wall.

[Buck Sexton]

Did you see our 86 year old listener who emailed me about. That was one of the fun. I need to read that email at some point because that was a great email.

[Clay Travis]

I know, I know the conservative talk radio audience and there are guys over 75 that would whoop my ass. So I definitely know they would take Tim Walls in a fight. But Caroline Levitt at the White House speaking as the press secretary just goes after this. I mean, it's astonishing. It's outrageous that he is rooting for the failure of a company again because Elon wants to cut government waste. Play 8 Governor Waltz saying last night he frequently checks Tesla stock in doing so to quote, give me a little boost during the day. How should Americans view politicians who take pride in the downfall of an American car company?

[Buck Sexton]

I think that's quite sad. But I think Governor Walz unfortunately is living a sad existence after his devastating defeat on November 5.

[Clay Travis]

It is, it is sad. And his defeat was devastating. It's sad though that somebody would be rooting for an American. Think about what that means. It's not just Tesla. It is a. I mean you, you and I have never sat here, been like, you know what I want? I want Amazon to go bankrupt because it employs huge numbers of people. It's an enormously valuable company and it has been incredibly effective. I mean, it has saved millions, maybe billions of man hours for people. And look, I know Jeff Bezos is more on our team now than he used to be, but he's still not really on our team. We're all very aware of this. But to root for a huge American company, it'd be like sitting here, Clay, and just saying, you know, I want Ford and General Motors to just cease to exist and all their People to get fired. Because I don't like what this. I don't like who the CEO voted for. There's something deranged about this.

[Buck Sexton]

I think two things that are important here. One, if you truly cared about climate change, then the idea that you would want Tesla to fail is the most heretical thing that you could possibly say. Because I'm not sure there's any company in America that has done more to fight climate change. And this is supposed to be, as we talked about yesterday, an existential threat to the entire world and to our nation. And yet you have Tim Walls out there saying that he's checking to see what the stock price is because he's rooting for Tesla to fail. That doesn't add up if you actually believe that climate change is the existential threat. And I think what it forces Democrats to do is decide, what do we hate more, climate change or Trump? And the reality is they hate Trump more than anything. And so the Elon connection to Trump means they root against it. Second, choosing whether or not to spend your money on products based on whether they share your values or not is, I think, a very rational choice to make. I would argue that Tesla actually shares the values of Democrats. But leaving that aside, what is not is when, for instance, we said, hey, Bud Light's got a trans, you know, spokesperson, maybe drink another beer. We didn't say Anthro Molotov cocktails at people driving around in Budweiser trucks. What the left has done with Elon is not only reject their own principles upon which they stand, but actually take it to the next step. They're lighting Tesla's on fire everywhere. People are getting busted on the Tesla cameras, keying Tesla vehicles all over the place, behaving in a fundamentally ridiculous and, frankly, violent manner over this. And to me, it just kind of ties in with. It's one thing to make a decision about a product that you like or don't like. We said, hey, you make a great product. The benefit typically is even if you disagree with the product, you'll probably still consume it. When we say Chick Fil A, there's nobody who. I'm sorry, there's nobody who makes a better chicken sandwich than Chick Fil A. And one of the great things about the Chick Fil A sandwich, by the way, Buck, is the pickle. Lots of gay people. Lots of gay people out there rolled into Chick Fil A like crazy. They're like, ah, you know, I wish they supported gay marriage, but man, their chicken nuggets are just so good. I'm gonna go in and get them anyway. Right. Second, we talked about this yesterday before you strict stroke. It stricken. Had it stricken.

[Clay Travis]

For the record. Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

When you talked about how much your wife Carrie loves Costco. I also love Costco. Costco Estate committed to di. I think they're wrong there. They're still the best warehouse shopping center option out there. And I still really like their samples. And I'm still going to spend money at Costco. Their brand is so good, much like Chick Fil A, that even if they have politics that are somewhat different than me, that I'm not going to shop, I'm going to continue to shop there. Tesla makes the best electric vehicle in the world, is my understanding. I'm not an expert on this, but the people who have Teslas rave about them. Buck. And this is one reason I'm looking at potentially buying one. You're looking at potentially buying one. I want to stand up and say, hey, I believe in American exceptionalism. I think Elon Musk is an exceptional American capitalist in all facets. And I would like to believe that it is rational Americans out there who aren't going to punish him because he's trying to make the government more efficient. Buck. In his free time, like, he didn't have to do this at all. He's just giving back to the country to try to make sure that our deficit doesn't drown all of us in red ink.

[Clay Travis]

And you've got a couple of voices weighing in on this, defending the. Remember, it's not really about defending Elon personally. This is about the company. This is about Tesla, which is doing great things. It's innovating, it's employing people, it's making incredible products. You know, we're. There's so much about it. It's here in America. The cars are made here in America. It's not some. You know, we're not. We're not having some sweatshop somewhere putting together iPhones. Just saying. Again, I wish I could tell you I don't have an iPhone. I do, but it's because I don't like the other options. And, you know, but I'm aware of what goes on here. Right. It's not always perfect to make these. Make these kinds of choices. Kevin O'Leary, though, points out that Tim Walsh is. Is a bozo. This is Mr. Wonderful. Cut nine. I'm talking about Tim Waltz and his comments about the Tesla stock. He says it gives him a boost to see that stock going down.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Poor guy didn't check his portfolio in his own pension plan for state. It's beyond stupid what he did. He's talking down a 3 1/2% weighting in his own pension plan. I mean what's the matter with that guy? He doesn't check the well being of his own constituents in the state. I mean that's their investor money. What a bozo.

[Clay Travis]

He's pointing out the economic illiteracy of somebody like it. Tim Walls Companies like Tesla are what have been moving the market in recent years. Which means 401ks, which means pension plans. The, you know, the growth of the major American corporations is lifting up the overall market. And even if you think oh I'm not in the market, oh no, you're in the market because it affects the cost of borrowing, it affects the cost of your rent or your mortgage or, or the payments on your car or the credit card interest rates that you have. You know, there is no escaping the market if you're operating in America today. And to want companies, whether it's Tesla or Nvidia or you know, the, the Magnificent seven stocks they'll talk about when you root for those to fill, you're rooting actually for the American economy to feel pain and there to be less wealth in this country. And that's what they're doing because they don't like Elon because he's too nice to Trump.

[Buck Sexton]

And again, they're also rooting for climate change which is like at its most basic level. Did you see this idiot astronaut Mark Kelly, senator from Arizona, went and traded in his Tesla and went and got a gas guzzling SUV to replace it. So what is the story that you support? Right. I mean again, I think part of being adulthood, you mentioned the iPhone. Part of being an adult is recognizing that everybody's not going to agree with you on every single thing and still making decisions that are somewhat rational when it comes to products. Right. Like I don't want my toilet paper to have a strong position on any political issue. I just want them to kind of make toilet paper that doesn't, that doesn't fail. Right. That actually works. And I think most Americans, I don't want my cat litter brand to send me an email about what they think about blm. I think most Americans just want the product itself to not take a particular stand. Elon has not said that Tesla has a particular stand. Right. This is Elon Musk individual donating his time to try to make the government more efficient. It isn't actually directly connected to Tesla at all. It would be different if he had Said, hey, and I don't want any Democrat to drive my car. I would think that's a really bad move. I'm old school, Buck. I'm like Michael Jordan. Republicans buy sneakers, too, Right? Like, you should try to appeal to everyone.

[Clay Travis]

The Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick, who has been very outspoken about a lot of things in the economy. He spoke. He straight up said he's a senior government official, cabinet member. Well, I'll let you listen to what he said about Tesla Play 10.

[Howard Lutnick]

He's the guy who's going to build the next generation technology. I think if you want to learn something on this show tonight, buy Tesla. It's unbelievable that this guy's stock is this cheap. It'll never be this cheap again. When people understand the things he's building, the robots he's building, the technology he's building are going to be dreaming of today. And Jesse Waters and thinking, gosh, I should have bought Elon Musk's stock. I mean, who wouldn't invest in Elon Musk?

[Buck Sexton]

You got to be kidding.

[Kevin O'Leary]

All right, so you're calling the bottom.

[Ryan Graduski]

This is it.

[Howard Lutnick]

Whether today's the bottom or not. I tell you what, Elon Musk is probably the best person to bet on I've ever met.

[Clay Travis]

There you go.

[Buck Sexton]

Pretty strong endorsement, Buck.

[Ryan Graduski]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

The Commerce Secretary effectively saying, this is the most impressive CEO living today in the world. It's a big deal. I thought, you know, and. And he's trying to help the government instead of just running his incredible companies. So says something.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Ryan Graduski]

But also a little comic relief.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sex Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Got a great email from our VIPs out there knocking down and continuing to dive into a lot of what we've been talking about. David says, I just want to let you know you hit the nail on the head with your chick Fil A and gay people comment. As a gay man, Chick Fil A has the best chicken sandwich hands down. I will always support them. Thanks for all you do. Again, I think ultimately the thing that matters the most, Buck, is are you putting out a great product into the marketplace? And if you are over time, you win. Speaking of which, thanks to the 75 new affiliates that have come on in the last couple of weeks for this program taking us to over 550 affiliate stations nationwide. We love all you guys. We understand that some of you are new to the team, but we appreciate you all over the nation. 75 new stations is a monster number. Going over 500, I think. What's the tally, Buck? You asked 555 or 554?

[Clay Travis]

That was when I asked. It was 555 stations. Yes, yes indeed.

[Buck Sexton]

So that is a testament. We appreciate all of you for supporting everything that we're doing here.

[Clay Travis]

Now we have some talk backs to get to and so much. You know what here, Clay, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm skip the March Madness talkbacks. Maybe we can get to them at the end if you want. But the, there are a lot of people who have weighed in on that one very vociferously. To tell us they don't want to hear about March Madness. And I will tell you that I didn't. I haven't studied up all these years and gone as deep into my expertise of March Madness as I have to never talk about it. So we are going to talk about it because hopefully I can be Clay in the bracket challenge, which will just give me bragging rights for a few days. But beyond that, Clay will be the one giving you the, the, the final of the rather the final analysis on it. Although we both think Florida is going to win, which is funny because I just picked that because I love Florida and my wife is a Gator. That's all that I know.

[Buck Sexton]

The poor Gators are definitely cursed with both you and I picking them. Speaking of the tournament, by the way, congratulations, Creighton Omaha Creighton Blue Jays gets the first win of the tournament over Louisville.

[Clay Travis]

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[Ryan Graduski]

All right.

[Clay Travis]

Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Our friend Ryan Garduski joins us now. It's a number Game is his podcast. It's also true about life but it's his game. It's his podcast on the Clan Buck network. Go subscribe also. National Populist newsletter is his substack. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast first though. Mr. Graduski. Yeah, great to have you with us.

[Ryan Graduski]

How are you?

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, we're good man. So so you. So we have a lot of things to run by you. But first off, what was your biggest takeaway when you looked at those Numbers that were released yesterday were the outlier extraordinaire was white college educated women who are apparently obsessed with Zelensky and dei.

[Ryan Graduski]

Yeah, I don't think that shocked anybody. Those were the NBC polls that they held from Sunday. They just live. White men without a college degree and white women with a college degree don't live in the same country. I mean, they just fundamentally don't. Men without a white man without a college degree live in Texas and white women without a. With a college degree live in, like, Sweden. So it's just, it's not. They don't, they don't have the same concerns, they don't have the same issues. It's. It's bizarre. And when I can kind of, I can kind of like sit there and really break it down to an ideology is that one has a very comfortable level of living and one does not. If your biggest issue is Zelensky, you're probably not worried that much about your monthly bills or an illegal alien, you know, attacking you or breaking to your ranch if you live on the border. This is just a completely different life that they live. And yeah, I mean, it's a totally different world and makes for bad politics because white women with a college degree who are on the left are getting more radicalized, they're getting further to the left, and that's a problem.

[Buck Sexton]

So does the problem get resolved in any way if abortion becomes less of a national political issue and more of an individual state issue? Because it seems like to me, and I'm curious if you buy this thesis, Ryan, that Democrats have uniquely exploited the fears of educated white women when it comes to reproductive rights, and that that is the motivating factor for many of them, particularly if you're in your 20s or 30s, given the fact that abortion, whatever you think about it, the numbers haven't really changed that much since Roe v. Wade was overturned. Is the impact of abortion as a national political issue maybe something that could bring these women back to some measure of political sanity or not?

[Ryan Graduski]

No, I don't think that it's abortion. I mean, I think abortion is part of the question. But part of it, certainly a large part. But the second. The biggest group of white women to vote for Democrats were white women in their late 20s, early 30s. That would be the abortion group. The second largest were white women over the age of 70, but under the age of 80. So if it was just an abortion thing, so what's.

[Buck Sexton]

Sorry to cut you off, but that's fascinating. What do you think is motivating those white women college educated, 70 to 80. Because again, abortion, to your point, I don't think they're getting abortions.

[Ryan Graduski]

Yeah, they are. They're watching MSNBC and Rachel Maddow and they are blm and they are. Listen, the baby boomer generation was the very, it was the second most progressive generation to millennials. I mean, they are a progressive generation. Um, if your entire life is basically politics, which, I mean, for a lot of, a lot of women in their 70s and 80s who either A, don't have husbands because they passed away or they never married, or they don't have children or grandchildren because their millennial children never had children, politics becomes a bigger and bigger and bigger issue in your life. And what we saw in the other thing that came out on Monday, which I wrote about for the national popular newsletter, David Shores thing, David Shore's big piece on data was that people who paid attention to politics a lot voted very, very heavily to Kamala Harris and people who got their news from mainstream media outlets. If you look at the average CNN or MSNBC viewer, they are over the age of 70 years old. They are 70 year olds, usually college educated or not college, but mostly college educated white women who obsess about politics. It is their religion, it's their qvc, it's their, it's the children that they didn't have or the grandchildren they didn't have, it becomes their whole world. And that's why it's, it's, it's become so toxic. And they also fall in line on every issue. They're not only for blm. They have long Covid. They don't only have long Covid. They need to protect abortion rights. They don't only protect abortion rights, they need to protect trans rights in Angola through, you know, the usaid. Every single, you know, tyranny is on the, is on the run every single second of every single day. If you hear them. It's exhausting to live that way. But that's the, that's the second biggest group outside of like late 20, early 30s. It's not abortion. It's just straight up ideology. And perhaps because they live in such comfortable environments, suburbs, wealthy parts of cities, they don't have to worry about crime or, you know, the fact that they're, they don't have money coming in the next month. They're probably living pretty comfortably.

[Clay Travis]

So, Ryan, I wanted to ask you about this. A slew of people, including Gayle King, Nancy Pelosi and others who are really giving Schumer some rough stuff. Is this just about the CR that he went along with so that the government didn't shut down. I mean, we could expect that. Or is this going deeper to the power struggle within the Democrat Party right now? And if so, who is angling to take over what feels like a ship that has sprung many leaks over at Democrat land?

[Ryan Graduski]

Well, I think the fact that not only did he vote for the cr, but he left vulnerable House Democrats. I mean, like, they all voted against it, except for Jared golden up in Maine. Second, you have a dozen Democrats who live in Trump districts who just voted to shut down the government, and they just vote against all the things that that means all the funding for military and veterans and seniors and everything. And there will be a campaign commercial coming to every one of those districts in a few in the next year and 13 months or 15 months saying, you know, insert Democrat here, voted to shut down your government and suspend your, you know, payments to your veterans. That is going to hurt them. And it's going to be so toxic. And it makes them look like they can't govern. And, you know, they say they didn't get anything out of it. They got the old Biden budget. I mean, there was like, I think 10 billion in cuts. There was nothing really in cuts, substantial, but it makes them look bad, makes them look like they can't govern. And who replaces Schumer? I don't know. Who's gonna. It used to be with, like, Dick Durbin. He's 83. He's on his way out. It won't be Bernie. I mean, Elizabeth Warren is 76. It has to be somebody who can bring in a lot of money, because that's the really a big part of the job as being leaders who can raise a lot of money. It's not a Kirsten Gillibrand. They have a big, big issue.

[Clay Travis]

Who is the best. Who's the best fundraiser? Ryan, because you'd actually know this. And I'm just curious, because you're. Who's the best Democrat fundraiser now? Who's under 65?

[Ryan Graduski]

The best fundraiser on the Republican side is, I think, I pretty sure it's Tim Scott for sure. On the Senate side, Tim Scott's the best fundraiser. On the Democratic side, I believe it's Schumer in his pack. Schumer's packs raise over $100 million a year.

[Clay Travis]

But I'm talking about the younger generation. Is there anybody who's already starting to AOC for sure?

[Ryan Graduski]

Cori Bush is right.

[Clay Travis]

Aoc?

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Ryan Graduski]

AOC raises bucket loads of money. Yeah. And she usually gives it all away.

[Buck Sexton]

We're talking to Ryan Gardusky. Ryan, I love the data that you bring to bear. Encourage people to check out your podcast. The data reflects that Trump did not actually do better with white voters. Right. The white voters from like 2016 to 2024 have stayed basically similar and that in fact moved a little bit. Democrat maybe. But that the reason why Trump won in all 50 states. Black, Hispanic, Asian, support rising. I'm curious, is that Trump?

[Ryan Graduski]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Is that Trump support, you think? As we look ahead to 26 and 28, how much of that do you think is attributable to Trump himself as opposed to the Republican Party? In other words, does that movement continue if it's J.D. vance or someone like that? Or is Trump a unique political unicorn in that respect?

[Ryan Graduski]

So this is the episode for a numbers game podcast that's coming out next Monday. I'm super excited. But this data comes from David Shore, who's a Democrat, a data scientist. He's brilliant, very, very smart. His data. And he did a really deep dive on not only like exit polling, but where people were voting and looking at voting files. What happened was between 2016 and 2020, Trump lost about 1 to 2% of the white vote in between those two elections. He gained all that back in 2024. So there were Trump or Gary Johnson, Biden, Trump voters. There was that swing. Basically all the people voted for Gary Johnson instead of Hillary and then voted for Biden, came back to Trump. That was. That was worth 1.5% of his three point national game. Half came from white people, the other half came from minorities. He didn't gain that much with blacks. It was a small amount. The biggest was black conservatives. He gained about 8 points over the course of the last eight years. But among Hispanic moderates, he gained 23 points. In 2016, Hillary won 81% of Hispanic moderates. Trump won 50. Sorry. Kamala won 58% eight years later. So from 81 to 58, the other part was Asian moderates. Hillary one hundred and seventy eight. Kamala one hundred and sixty seven. A double digit drop among moderates in the Asian community. Is this a Trump thing? Partially, but it's part of a larger national story. In England, you see the Conservative party doing better among minorities. In Canada, you see the conservatives doing better among minorities. It is a thing that along the entire Western where you've started seeing part of minority as part of minority coalition vote their ideology instead of their race, which they usually vote their race over their ideology. Is it a Trump thing? That's a great question. Actually Trump was more of a deterrent than a supplier of this. The, the people who don't trust the Democratic Party is higher than the people who voted for Trump. Had everybody been voting vote have forced to vote, David Shore's estimate is that Trump wouldn't have won by 1.7 points percent, he would have won by 5%. Because when you ask on issues like everything from like AI to poverty to not only just the economy and immigration, but, but, but student loans, they trust Republicans way more than Democrats. The only issue Democrats have a sizable advantage that people care on an issue that people care about is health care. That is the only issue that they have over Republicans. On everything else they have a deep, deep distrust of the Democratic Party. And I'll say one more thing. Voters who got their information from social media were much more inclined to vote for Trump. The biggest group, the biggest demographic to vote for Trump. According to the David Shore data, white men under the age of 20. 75% of white men under 20 voted for Trump. That is the largest demographic of any group ever. More than seniors, more than more than any other racial group. Trump won a majority of voters under 20. White women, white men and non white men. The only group under 20 that Trump lost to Kamala Harris were non white women.

[Buck Sexton]

That's amazing.

[Clay Travis]

Stat is amazing. Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Do you think that's Covid?

[Ryan Graduski]

It's yes, it's completely Covid. It is the lockdown generation. Lockdowns split Gen Z zoomers in half. So older zoomers who had already gone through the high school experience and graduated or were even past college, they are much more liberal than those who were locked down and missed graduations, games, friends. They were, they were getting all their news on the Internet and they were coming at a time where the BLM riots were happening that me too was happening. And there was a surge of Internet personalities, everyone from Jordan Peterson to Ben Shapiro to, you know, more nefarious characters on the Internet. But nonetheless, still they were being inundated with information from social media free of the gates that, that the regular media provides. And so the younger generation right now is the most Republican. 18 to 20 year olds in the last election are the most Republican generation according to the David Shore data, which I do trust. The most Republican generation since the greatest generation that fought World War II. That is how far right wing, especially white men under the age of 20. The most Republican generation we have seen probably in 60 to 70 years.

[Clay Travis]

Go check out more from Ryan Garduski with It's a numbers game his podcast on the Clay and Buck Network. He does the best data analysis of anybody in the game and subscribe to who is national Populist newsletter on Substack. Ryan, really interesting as always man. Thanks for being here.

[Ryan Graduski]

Thank you.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

People are coming after me over my pronunciation. But we've got a clip here we'll play for you in a sec to show you that. Actually Elon and I are in agreement here, but I want you to go to crockettcoffee.com use code book crockettcoffee.com code book. I believe we have like 500 copies of the book left. Once they're gone, they're gone. Laura Travis is going to be ecstatic to have them gone. But you get an autographed copy of my book. The lovely Katie, who has been my assistant now for about a decade, is getting them mailed out to everyone. So go to crockett coffee.com, use code book. You subscribe and you get an autographed copy of the book. Evidently I'm being lit up for not pronouncing Tesla correctly enough. Whatever. I'm not the pronunciation expert on anything as you will regularly learn if you listen to this program. But the crack staff has found out that Elon and I pronounce the name of the company the same way.

[Clay Travis]

Listen, they're firing bullets into the dealerships. They're smashing up Tesla's. Tesla is a peaceful company. We've never done anything harmful.

[Buck Sexton]

All right? Like a Z, not like an S. So for all of you out there, pronunciation, please take it up with Elon, dive into his mentions.

[Clay Travis]

But representatives of the company have said this has been a controversy for a while because people who cover the stock on TV will say it both ways too. And everyone's, they say it's like Islam or Islam. You can say it either way and nobody cares. So those, the pronunciation police on this one need to pull their, pull their cruiser over and turn off the lights because it's ok.

[Buck Sexton]

This is one where I'm not actually screwing it up. It's a rare, It's a rare one where I'm not mispronouncing something. Um, by the way, as we roll into what will be tomorrow's show, I do think this is going to turn into a really interesting debate and we should reach out and try to get Pam Bondi, who we have not had on the show yet, the Attorney General of the United States, Ali, because I would actually love to hear from her what the long range strategy to combat all these federal district court judges is really going to be. And so let's reach out, try to get her on the program as well. But for everybody out there, we appreciate you hanging out with us. Go check out crockett coffee.com and what do you think I'm going to do? Buck straight to the basketball even though everyone is angry about it.

[Clay Travis]

Not everybody. We actually had somebody who with the talk back. Let's see if we can sneak this one in the talkback that just came in from the guy who says people need to stop being okay SS Hit it SS Tennessee.

[Listener]

I don't know what's going on with all these psychotic sports hating nerds, but telling Clay to stop talking about sports is like trying to reason with a hungry lion. I know this is going to get way worse for these people before it gets better, but oh well. GO follows sports is the best SEC country.

[Buck Sexton]

Congrats to Purdue. They got a dub too.

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