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Co-host/Commentator
Now, which is this is, this is funny. Do you know our friend Alexi Lawless ridiculed me recently for buttoning my shirt shirts too tall, too high up. Alexis like Gavin Newsom, also a California and he's like, basically you should be unbuttoned down to the navel. But it is funny with Gavin Newsom. He, he is the, he's got multiple different buttons undone.
Buck Sexton
We have a cal, we have a California expert who is joining us now, Katie Zachariah, political legal commentator out on the West Coast. And Katie, thanks for being with us with us again. You can weigh in on this. First of all, Gavin Newsom, is he just doing what Californians do by having a shirt unbuttoned to his navel or is this specific to Gavin? Also, what happened to his Davos speech and why is he in Davos in the first place?
Clay Travis
Well, he's in Davos, as everyone has said to troll President Trump and extremely unsuccessfully. He was there ahead of him and then just absolutely got eviscerated and left in the corner as we all saw in the little kids table when President Trump walked in the room. And he should have been disinvited from the US House when he was going to give this interview with Fortune after denigrating the president who's working a historic, historic national security deal with Greenland of which our children, grandchildren and their grandchildren will reap the benefits of. Gavin Newsom has nothing better to do, although I could find some things out in California than to go and criticize President Trump for abortive peace. And, you know, Greenland acquiring Greenland and will do so without any military force. So he doesn't deserve a seat at the big kids table. Honestly.
Co-host/Commentator
It is funny. Did you see, I think he was called Sparkle Ken or something like that. Now, Buck, you watched the Barbie movie, right? If I recall, you said it was trash. I never watched it.
Buck Sexton
I couldn't even, I couldn't even get through it. Couldn't even get through it. Tried. It was garbage. I don't care what anybody says. The only reason I didn't watch it was nostalgia. It's a garbage movie.
Co-host/Commentator
So, Katie, is that an accurate. I'm betting that you this may be typecasting, but my wife saw it. I bet most women saw it. I'm betting you saw the Barbie movie. Is Sparkle Ken a good description of Gavin Newsom?
Clay Travis
Definitely typecasting. I did not watch it. I am, I'm not much of a movie buff and if I do watch a movie, it's going to be like a Braveheart or a Gladiator and type of movie.
Buck Sexton
And you know that's, that's Clay's wife's favorite movie.
Co-host/Commentator
By the way, you are now forever.
Buck Sexton
Welcome on the program.
Clay Travis
Yeah, great movie. One of the best. And honestly, Secretary Besson put up the meme of this or someone did on X and that's where I saw Sparkle Ken and it does represent Gavin Newsom. But I also think, and I keep repeating this, the severity of a governor, of a senior second tier governor, low rate governor going out against President Trump needs to be taken seriously because he is the Democrat front runner. I watched Call she do. This entire platform on Gavin Newsom is the not just preferred but has soared after this trip to Davos to basically troll President Trump as the front runner for the Democrat Party. And so here we land. The Democrat Party now has no platform except to troll President Trump to have wide open borders, to defy ICE and to allow criminals to run rampant and to not build and rebuild a city after a year of a $250 billion of wildfire damage and leave, as Secretary Bessen said, the residents of California homeless while you're trolling President Trump. That's what we have from the Democrat Party. And it's, it's actually a pretty serious indictment on all of the people in their party and no policy positions.
Co-host/Commentator
Katie, to hit what you just said. Cow's favorites to be nominated as the Democrat nominee in 2028. Gavin Newsom has a 35% chance. Second place is AOC at a 10% chance. So he has not only got the lead, he's got a pretty crazy significant lead. Josh Shapiro, 8% chance. Kamala Harris, 6% chance. So you're right. California Governor Gavin Newsom has soared. Do you think he is electable now? I know he's awful and I know he's been a disaster for California, but take that away. Is he, could he beat J.D. vance, could he beat Marco Rubio, he I think is an adroit politician, sadly. And Democrats have shown, I mean, they almost elected Kamala Harris. I can't imagine Gavin Newsom would be a worse candidate than her.
Buck Sexton
Right.
Clay Travis
So you look at those seven swing states that President Trump dominated against Kamala Harris and he can't win a Pennsylvania and a Michigan. And in Wisconsin, right. The first place he went was North Carolina to announce his kind of soft campaign, but not really. He did this squishy thing because he knows his state's a dumpster fire, but he's basically gone to North Carolina to soft campaign for the presidential. And you look at these swing states and I don't think it's my assessment he cannot win those swing states against a J.D. vance. He doesn't work for middle America. The greasy kind of slick back hair and California button down shirt and no policy. It works for the media. It works for X hype. And to have this press room troll President Trump. But he's not running against President Trump, as you just said. Would it be J.D. vance or Marco Rubio? And then he's going to have to start falling on his policies when he's not trolling President Trump anymore. And what does he have to stand on? And middle America, I think, sees this in Gavin Newsom. So is he electable? In my opinion, he's not. And if the Democrat Party continues going on with Gavin Newsom, maybe we're going to get another clean sweep of those seven swing states with JD or, or Marco.
Buck Sexton
So what's going on, Katie, with. I can't, I can't even believe I'm saying this, that Swalwell has been considered the front runner to take over Gavin's seat. Because first of all, that means Clay, now you're going to have Swalwell six words down.
Co-host/Commentator
Buck. I actually think Swalwell is worse than Gavin Newsom. Like, I don't think Gavin Newsom is a moron. I think Swalwell is actually stupid and, and really kind of diabolical in his stupidity.
Buck Sexton
All true.
Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
But now there's some problem, there's some problem with. He doesn't even live in California. Do Californians care what's going on California?
Clay Travis
Well, look, you have, you have the situation of the mortgage fraud with Letitia James and now you look at Swalwell who wants to run for governor of California and he's not even a resident of California. So no, he can't run. And that's, that's real and as he was. But, but even go back before they expose where his residency is. He was trying to say that he was going to revoke the driver's licenses for ICE agents. Now, why are ICE agents in California to begin with? Because Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris left the border wide open and we're having to deport criminals in our, quote, sanctuary state and sanctuary jurisdiction, which all just got a notice by President Trump. They are going to have federal funding revoked, every sanctuary jurisdiction across the country because they are in violation of our supremacy clause. So Swalwell already is just falling flat on his face because he cannot revoke the driver's licenses of ICE agents in California. So it's hot air. And then to see, actually, you're not even a California resident. You can't run. So now they have swallows out Katie, Katie Porter and the disastrous launch of her campaign. She's out. So you're looking at this kind of, who is it? Are we going to get a Republican? Because again, the Democrats are just not bringing forth candidates that are electable.
Co-host/Commentator
I mean, I think it's a really super interesting question that you are asking about. At what point do you think and are we there? Californians might finally throw up their hands and be willing to change directions? Because we've had Steve Hilton on this program a lot. I know he's running an aggressive campaign all over the state of California. What would it take for a Republican to be able to win, in your mind, a statewide elected office again in the state of California?
Clay Travis
The first thing, and I'm going to go really quickly, federal, we're starting to see an uptick of the SAVE act. And this is absolutely necessary for the security of our elections going forward and for our win of the 26 midterms. And then to go back to California voter ID, we have to have voter ID in California. We now have it, right. Currently we have a law that was passed in the Senate and signed by Gavin Newsom that poll workers it is illegal to ask for a driver's license and proof of id. It is illegal in California. So Carl Di Maio, our assemblyman led assemblyman, led an initiative that's getting a lot of steam, including support, verbal support and support from Elon Musk on voter ID in California that is going to be on the ballot in 26 this, this election cycle. And once that happens, I think we're going to see, including with voter rolls and new conservative and common sense and Republican voter registration, I think we will see a turnaround in California. I may be too optimistic and having lived in California my whole life, but people are Sick and tired of these policies. They're sick and tired of the gas prices that are still high fours, low fives. And when we have voter ID and we regulate who goes to the ballot box to vote and you have to be a citizen, it's a game changer. And that's an 80, 20 issue. Believe it or not, in California, once that's on the ballot, it's an easy yes for people. And we're gonna see in my mind, a big shift in the electorate, big shift in politicians, but not until then. I don't think 26 is winnable right now for a Republican without voter ID.
Buck Sexton
What's the status, Katie?
Clay Travis
Sorry, Steve Hilton.
Buck Sexton
What's the status of the wealth tax on the billionaires? Got a lot of media attention last few weeks. Seems like it's. Well, Minneapolis and Davos are certainly leading the news cycle right now. But there was seemed a little bit of, a little bit of wow, the numbers. You know, the math doesn't math, as the kids say. If these billionaires leave. What's the latest on that?
Clay Travis
Yeah, that, that's all driven by our wonderful Ro Khanna. We just have so many great people out of California in politics. Gavin Newsom has actually said he doesn't support this because he knows that all of the wealth will leave California. The status is, I think they're still trying to get this on the ballot and it's, it's something that's being pushed. But simultaneously, you have a lot of billionaires going to guess where. Florida, the land of the free and home of the brave. And they're trying, they're at least relocating their business and 51% of their ownership or citizenship. So they're not going to have to pay that tax because it will be retroactive. It will go all the way back to January 1, 2026 for those billionaires. So I think they're hedging their bets. If this works, if it goes through, then they don't want to be part of it. It's unfortunate.
Buck Sexton
Great to talk to you. Katie Zachariah. Keep California sane until we can make it great again because it has been a great place in the past. Thank you so much for being with us.
Clay Travis
Thank you.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. All right, we have got buck 103 mile an hour serve. You have not heard these audio clips yet. Australian Open underway. There is a couple of. There's a reporter who is employed by the far left wing New York Times that is writing for their sports arm called the Athletic and he is asking every American tennis player if they are ashamed of being an American in their post match interviews. This is what that sounds like. This is starting to go viral. This is tennis player Amanda Anisa Mova asked if she's basically proud to play it as an American right now. Cut seven.
Clay Travis
I've been asking a lot of the American players just how it feels to.
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Clay Travis
And I'm curious how you feel. Yeah, I mean I was born in America so I'm always proud to represent my country. And yeah, a lot of us are doing really well and it's great to see a lot of, you know, great athletes on the women's side, on the men's side. So yeah, I feel like we're all doing a great job representing ourselves. Sorry, do you mind if I follow?
Buck Sexton
Sorry, just to clarify a little, I.
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Mean sort of in the context of the last year of everything that's been happening in the, in the U.S. does.
Buck Sexton
That complicate that feeling at all?
Clay Travis
I don't think that's relevant.
Co-host/Commentator
All right, there's one. Here's another male player, I believe this is Taylor Fritz Taylor Fitz who is asked the same thing by a, by the same reporter. Cut 38.
Guest/Politician (e.g., J.D. Vance or Jim Jordan)
I'm asking all the American players this.
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Clay Travis
In the US and kind of has.
Buck Sexton
Been for a lot of the last year.
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And I'm just kind of wondering how.
Buck Sexton
You'Re feeling about all of it. I mean, I'm not sure what we're like specifically talking about, but there is.
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Buck Sexton
In the US And I don't know.
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I feel like whatever I say here.
Buck Sexton
Is gonna get put in a headline and it's, it's gonna get taken out of context. So I, I'd really rather not do something that's gonna cause a big distraction for me in the middle of the tournament.
Co-host/Commentator
Buck, I know you didn't really realize how crazy this all is, but these guys just finished tennis matches in the Australian Open and they're asked, are you ashamed of America? And in their postgame press conference by a American media member, such a, you.
Buck Sexton
Know, this is where you need Trump to just appear, just be like, stupid question. Because it is such a stupid question. People are there to play tennis. Ask them about tennis. Don't try to cause problems. I give the players credit that they're media trained enough that they didn't step into some bear trap here, which is what the whole thing's all. And by the way, there's no good answer. You're going to upset people no matter what you say. So the answer is I'm not answering, which is basically what they did. But. Was that an Australian reporter?
Co-host/Commentator
No, no, it's. I believe this guy is Canadian. He's employed by the Athletic. The New York Times is paying this guy to go ask people if they're ashamed of being an American athlete.
Buck Sexton
He's Canadian. He should just, he should just wake up and thank us for allowing his country to exist. Because without America, China would just be having their way with little tiny Canada. Ok, that's reality. So, you know, slow your roll there, Canada man. Whoever that guy is, Never heard of him before.
Co-host/Commentator
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. So much to discuss, so much to dive into here. We want to get some more of your calls, your talkbacks, all of that good stuff. Clay, since you brought up tennis, you've reminded me we have a new goal for 1 for 20, 26. 110 mile an hour serve. Gotta get.
Co-host/Commentator
Oh, wow.
Buck Sexton
Gotta get there. Some people are saying 110. The real men hit 110, not 103. So we'll see. I'm not like, by the way, I'm not 100% confident. I was 100% confident I could hit 100. I am not 100% confident I could hit 110, but I'll give myself this goal. You have the goal of swimming the Alcatraz race and not getting eaten by a shark, of adding seven miles per hour to my serve.
Co-host/Commentator
I am significantly concerned about being eaten by a shark in the Alcatraz swim. While I'm confident I can do it, I may need to go back to the US Virgin Islands and swim safely in Megan's Bay. I'll allow it to be filmed. That I can do a mile and a quarter here is actually a challenge that I've adopted. I want to be in 2026. I'm not sure I'm going to accomplish it. I'm trying to set a new bench press record. I am, like, I haven't lifted regularly for a while. So you'll remember a lot of people had no faith that I could bench press 185ten times. And I did that, which is pretty decent for a guy in his mid-40s. And now I want to see how many reps on 2:25, which is the NFL combine. Number five is the most I've ever done. I got five, 2:20 fives. Could I get to six? That is the new goal. And by the way, we've got, speaking of of of Reps, we got J.D. vance walking out to have a press conference right now in Minneapolis flanked by a couple of ice vehicles to talk about the arrests that have taken place in Minneapolis. President Trump flying back from right now from Europe after the Davos incident. So we will monitor that. In fact, should we go to it? Do you think we should go to it live? Guys, do we have the ability to go to this?
Buck Sexton
Yes.
Guest/Politician (e.g., J.D. Vance or Jim Jordan)
To talk about what I am, I am here to do, which is federal law enforcement to enforce our immigration laws, I want to say just a few things. First of all, I wanted to meet with business leaders, with ICE officers, with local law enforcement to try to understand a little bit better what's going on so that we can tone down the temperature a little bit, reduce the chaos, but still allow us as a federal government to enforce the American people's immigration law. That is the purpose of my visit. Now, this is, you know, step one or step two of that process. There's going to be a lot of work that follows through from here. I'm happy to talk about that. But I think I learned a few things that were very important. So, number one, one of the things I learned is that the guys behind me are doing an incredible job. And frankly, a lot of the media is lying about the job that they do every single day. Now, it doesn't mean that there aren't occasionally stories out there. There aren't occasionally videos out there that suggest that these guys, or at least some of the people who work for them, are not doing everything right. But very often, if you look at the context of what's going on, you understand that these people are under an incredible amount of duress, an incredible amount of chaos. And because of a few very far left agitators, a lot of these guys are unable to do their jobs without being harassed, without being doxed, and sometimes without being assaulted. That's totally unacceptable. And that's one of the things that I want to send a message to is, yes, come out and protest. Protest me, protest our immigration policy, but do it peacefully. If you assault a law enforcement officer, the Trump administration and the Department of Justice is going to prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law. And I wanted to show some support for these guys who, frankly, are operating in a very, very tough environment. I heard a lot of stories today about that that I think drives home just how chaotic the environment on the ground here has already gotten. For example, did you know that within the last, I think, week or so, maybe even more recently than that, you had a couple of ICE officers who were off duty, who had been doxed online, who were sitting and having a meal at a restaurant in Minneapolis when a bunch of agitators showed up locked the door, made them feel like they were in danger for their lives. And then, of course, it was federal law enforcement officers who had to come up, lower the temperature on the situation, and actually get those two off duty officers to a point of safety. Now imagine if you would, your life and your perspective on law enforcement. If you can't even go to a restaurant without some agitators locking the door and making you feel like your life is in danger. That is the environment that has been created, I think, by a lot of very frankly, far left people, but also by some of the state and local law enforcement officials who could do a much better job in cooperating and working. And by the way, I'm not talking about the cops who these guys on the ground, the cops are very sympathetic to what they're dealing with. I'm talking about state and local elected law enforcement officials who could do a lot better job in making their lives a little bit easier. And in the process, they would make the lives of all Minneapolis residents easier. And that's what we want. We want to be able to enforce the immigration laws on the one hand, while on the other hand, we want to make sure that people in Minneapolis are able to go about their day. And I want to say just one last, one last point on this. So I heard from a business leader today who told me a very tough story. And I think so much of what's gone wrong in Minneapolis is people not trying to understand the perspective of somebody else, try to understand what somebody else is experiencing, whether they're a law enforcement officer or anybody in the community here in Minneapolis. So they told me a story about this manufacturing facility where an illegal immigrant was being arrested. And as these employees are going into the manufacturing facility, all of a sudden an illegal immigrant shows up. They don't know it's an illegal immigrant, and then a bunch of ICE officers descend. Now, these people just want to go to work. They want to go to work safely. And now all of a sudden, there's a major law enforcement operation happening right outside their place of business. Now, from one perspective, I certainly understand why a business leader or why an employee would say, whoa, what's going on? It's a little scary. No matter your position in life, if a bunch of cop cars show up and they're arresting somebody. Now, the additional context is that we know that people online have been encouraging illegal immigrants that one way they can evade arrest is by showing up at a legitimate place of business, making it impossible for these guys to actually enforce our immigration laws. So while I can understand the perspective of somebody who doesn't want to see an arrest happen at their place of work. I can also understand the perspective of our immigration enforcement officers who have to do their job and can't allow a heckler's veto over our immigration enforcement. And so much of what's gone wrong is the failure to do that. And here's the point. We can do a good job of enforcing our immigration laws without the chaos, but it actually requires the cooperation of state and local officials. If you look at blue cities and blue states, red cities and red states, you go to Austin, Texas, or Memphis, Tennessee, you go to the state of Texas, obviously a very red state, or the state of Tennessee, a very red state, but you've got blue cities within those states. You do not have this level of chaos. The reason why things have gotten so out of hand is because of failure of cooperation between the state and local authorities and what these guys are trying to do. We have a ton of resources, a ton of ICE agents in this city right now that I would rather us not have. I'd love to send those guys home. And they're not even doing targeted immigration enforcement. They are trying to protect ICE officers who are doing immigration enforcement, because when a crowd surrounds them and These guys call 911, the local officials, the local cops have been told to stand down. So we have people here who aren't even doing immigration enforcement. They're doing force protection so that if a rioter tries to ruin the life or assault an ICE officer, they're actually protected. Now, why would.
Buck Sexton
All right, so you get. I mean, so, Clay, this is. I think this is so, so important for everyone to hear from the vice President there. He's getting to the real crux of the matter, which is all the complaints from particularly Democrat elected officials about the way these ICE enforcement operations are going are coming from people who are making lawless decisions, nullifying essentially immigration law with their conduct and using their authority to do so, necessitating the very style of enforcement that they are now decrying. That's where we are.
Co-host/Commentator
And I give credit right now. It is being covered live on CNN and Fox News. These comments that are made by JD Vance, probably not a surprise. It is interesting to have the quad box here so I can see how the media is covering this. MSNBC is not covering J.D. vance talking about his desire for cooperation when it comes to enforcement. You mentioned this Buck as we get ready to go to break. To the extent I know we have a lot of people in the Trump administration who listen to this show, pay attention to to to what we we say and we have a lot of friends there. They need to have a monster event surrounding murder hitting an all time low for anyone alive today in the United States and they need to take a victory lap of sorts and pour more resources and energy into it because no one's going to cover this. It should be a multi day story. This is something that's supremely positive, but because the Trump administration was integral and because this ICE enforcement I believe, plus letting police officers do their job because Republicans are right on this issue, the mainstream media will not cover it. And it needs to just be a direct, straightforward, transparent analysis of what the data shows. And it's a super positive thing that everybody who has a functional brain should be able to celebrate.
Buck Sexton
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Back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. J.D. vance continuing to speak and taking questions now about the protests that are taking place in Minneapolis. We will play some of that probably for you tomorrow and we'll have Mary Margaret Olahan, who has been spending the day traveling with J.D. vance in Minneapolis, around all of of this. All this Chaos that is taking place there. And again, CNN and Fox News continue to take this press conference live while MSNBC is focused on the Jack Smith testimony. Buck, we, I don't think we even played a clip from the Jack Smith testimony. I think you and I are kind of, of similar minds on this. The Jack Smith testimony, to me just feels so dated now that his entire investigation has collapsed. We all know it was bs. There's nothing new that he could say, really, in my mind, because he lied so much about this prosecution in the first place.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, I know. And this is where I kind of want to just say for a second it is because of the true esteem and respect that we hold this audience in, that we don't do this thing that a lot of people do these days of like, oh, we're gonna get the big answer. The big thing is going to happen. Just keep listening in and we'll tell you this huge, huge thing. All the good things are going to happen. I've got all the secrets, all the, no, Jack Smith's not going to prison. I'm not going to lie to you guys. I'm not going to do this thing. I'm not going to pretend that like the big reveal is coming or whatever, you know, now that gets us in trouble sometimes. But I'm telling you, just wait till you see what happens with some of these charges in Minneapolis against some of these individuals. I don't even think they're going to make it past the judge. And if I'm wrong, well then who cares? Then I was wrong. But I don't like to get people thinking that things are going to go much better, much better than they do. And with the Jack Smith thing, Clay, okay, I mean, here do we have Jim Jordan hammers him. We love Jim. So why don't we look, can we hear what Jim said to him? Pull that clip up, guys, and fire. This is like the best thing from it all day and the only thing that anybody is going to even vaguely remember from it in my estimation. But here it's our man, Jim. So let him have. Let him have it. Go for it.
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Subpoena for his phone records. Phone records from two years prior for a two month time frame. Election Day 2020 to January 7, 2021, Jack Smith and the Biden Justice Department get the phone records of the top Republican in government. The Guy second in line to the President. They got my phone records for two and a half years.
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Let's play cut 34. It's a little bit spicy. This is what Buck was referring to. Remember the Cassidy Hutchinson, the big PrimeTime hearings on January 6th? The Cassidy Hutchinson said President Trump choked a Secret Service Service agent. And that was a huge revelation and everybody got all fired up about it. Turns out she never witnessed it and there was no evidence that it actually happened. But most of the media covered it as if it were the case that it was true. Here is our buddy, Congressman Jim Jordan, going after Jack Smith on that aspect of, of the allegations.
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Mr. Smith, is Cassidy Hutchinson a liar.
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With respect to the testimony about the.
Buck Sexton
President lunging towards the driver, my recollection.
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Of her testimony about that is that it was secondhand. She had said she'd heard that from somebody.
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By the way, did you ever confirm her testimony about this particular incident?
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We interviewed a, another first hand witness who was in the car who did not confirm that that happened.
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We're going to put her on the witness stand if you ever got to trial.
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We had not made final determinations as to who we were going to call as a witness.
Buck Sexton
We had a large. Still considering her, we had a large choice of witnesses.
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My recollection is that I certainly had not made any final determinations about who we were going to call.
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And that's the point.
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That is the point. The fact that they used her in.
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A primetime hearing and you won't rule.
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Truth, that says it all. I do think that allegation in particular, President Trump was pretty funny about it. But the idea that while the vehicle was moving that Trump like lunged forward and started to choke out a Secret Service agent was so transparently ridiculous that.
Buck Sexton
I'm just picturing Trump doing a karate chop.
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The best karate chop anyone's ever seen.
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Trump even made fun of it. I mean, you know, a lot of the Secret Service agents, hopefully most of them that are in close proximity to the President on a regular basis, pretty good shape, pretty good, pretty good. Dudes like, the idea that the President's going to be trying to choke one of them out while they're driving and that that was allowed to be the crucible essence of testimony was crazy.
Buck Sexton
There's never ever been until that moment in time. Any suggestion by anyone in Trump's orbit that he has ever been, like, physically aggressive, even, like, thrown something at somebody and nothing. I mean, that's what Hillary Clinton used to do, but that's a whole other conversation.
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She would throw things at Secret Service.
Buck Sexton
Agents, but no one ever said this about Trump. So all of a sudden, anyway, the whole thing's crazy. But Jack Smith, they're putting him on the hot seat. Is he going to get prosecuted? No, he's not. I'm just telling you he's not. So, you know I'm right, and this is why we'll move on to other things. But that doesn't mean that there aren't other ways to get justice. And the biggest thing is for Trump to continue on his agenda and make the country the best he possibly can with the three years he's got left in office after defeating the deep state. So, you know, the good guys won this one. Everybody, don't, don't despair. We got a lot of people to get fired up over the work that still needs to be done. They're doing it. It's happening. Patience is a virtue and all that good stuff.
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Episode: Hour 3 – Davos Drama
Date: January 22, 2026
Host: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
This hour dives into the political spectacle of the Davos summit, focusing especially on California Governor Gavin Newsom’s controversial presence and ambitions. The hosts, joined by political/legal commentator Katie Zachariah, take on Newsom’s optics, the state of California’s political scene, and the Democratic Party’s prospects for 2028. The episode also tackles viral media moments, including American tennis players being questioned about their patriotism, and covers breaking immigration enforcement news with live reactions to a J.D. Vance press conference in Minneapolis. The tone is irreverent yet serious, mixing sharp political critique with banter and humor.
(03:16–09:25)
“The Democrat Party now has no platform except to troll President Trump...”
— Katie Zachariah (06:26)
Memorable Moment:
(09:25–14:11)
“People are sick and tired of these policies... When we have voter ID... it’s a game changer.”
— Katie Zachariah (12:19)
Key Stats Shared:
(14:11–15:16)
“If these billionaires leave... all of the wealth will leave California.”
— Katie Zachariah (14:32)
(18:54–22:31)
Notable Quotes:
“People are there to play tennis. Ask them about tennis. Don’t try to cause problems.”
— Buck Sexton (21:34)
“They want to get one of them to rip Trump and then the left wing sports media will make it the number one story in America.”
— Co-Host/Clay Travis (22:31)
(25:53–32:19)
Notable Quotes:
“If you assault a law enforcement officer, the Trump administration and the Department of Justice is going to prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law.”
— J.D. Vance (26:31)
“The reason why things have gotten so out of hand is because of failure of cooperation between the state and local authorities and what these guys are trying to do.”
— J.D. Vance (30:56)
(32:19–33:41)
“It should be a multi day story. This is something that's supremely positive, but because the Trump administration was integral...the mainstream media will not cover it.”
— Clay Travis (33:18)
(38:36–42:49)
“Jack Smith's not going to prison. I'm not going to lie to you guys... I'm not going to pretend that like the big reveal is coming or whatever.”
— Buck Sexton (38:49)
Notable Moment:
| Timestamp | Segment/Quote Summary | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:16 | Start of Newsom/Davos discussion, joined by CA commentator Katie Zachariah | | 06:02 | Zachariah: Newsom’s platform is “to troll President Trump” | | 09:25 | Newsom’s succession, Swalwell’s residency problems | | 12:19 | Zachariah: Voter ID as a political game changer in CA | | 14:11 | Khanna’s wealth tax proposal and its fallout | | 18:54 | Viral: American tennis players questioned on patriotism | | 21:34 | Buck Sexton: “Ask them about tennis. Don’t try to cause problems.” | | 25:53 | Live: J.D. Vance Minneapolis press conference | | 26:31 | Vance: “If you assault a law enforcement officer… prosecute to fullest extent…” | | 30:56 | Vance: “Failure of cooperation between state and local authorities…” | | 32:19 | Critique: Only selective coverage of major stories | | 38:36 | Reaction to Jack Smith testimony, Jim Jordan’s critique | | 41:06 | Jordan questions Smith on use of Cassidy Hutchinson testimony | | 42:49 | Clay & Buck wrap up the episode and stress importance of real news over hype |
Hour 3 of “Davos Drama” is a fast-paced, pointed critique of Democratic politics, media narratives, and “elite” gatherings like Davos. The central figure is Gavin Newsom, whose international and domestic political moves are dissected and often ridiculed. The episode also offers timely coverage of immigration enforcement, reactions to culture-war media moments, and skepticism toward politicized congressional hearings. The hosts encourage their audience to “see through the spin” and emphasize substance over hype.