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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you. Buck is already on his Christmas vacation. I've got you today and tomorrow. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast if you haven't already go check out the YouTube channel. You can find us on social media anywhere in the country and hopefully we will be able to entertain you as best we can. There a lot of different stories that we are tracking. More video footage surrounding the Brown University shooter. It's now been six days I believe as we come up on six days since that shooting occurred. No one has been arrested. We have been reacting to very positive story. If you missed it earlier this morning, inflation came in lower than expected. 2.7% the lowest level of inflation since the spring of 2021 when Joe Biden came into office. 2.6% core inflation level. The Fed's goal is 2%. If you want to nerd out on economic related analysis, we spent a lot of the opening of the first hour discussing how this interest, how interest rates are impacted in an inflation environment and why I am so optimistic as we head into 2026 about the overall trajectory of the economy. We discussed President Trump's address last night from the White House, 9pm Eastern that was carried. President Trump right now is signing an executive order easing restrictions on marijuana. He is now taking questions from the the press that is assembled in the Oval Office. He is seated at the Resolute desk. We will be monitoring that with all of you to make sure that we are on top of anything that he says there. Now a bit of other news. The Trump Kennedy center is now a thing. We'll see whether or not this name sticks when there are new administrations that potentially come in. But the Kennedy center has voted to rename itself the Trump Kennedy center and that is becoming the new name there in the wake of the amount of interest that President Trump has has given to the Kennedy center overall again they have renamed it Daily Mail reporting. I mentioned that this was a story that we were following. A private plane crashed in North Carolina with several people on it. And the Daily Mail is now reporting that NASCAR legend Greg Biffle died in that plane crash. And they are citing one of his best friends saying that the 55 year old NASCAR legend the plane was on its way to Sarasota, Florida. According to this report, it crashed about 45 minutes from from Charlotte. And Garrett Mitchell, one of Biffle's friends said, unfortunately I can confirm Greg Biffle, his wife Christina and son Ryder were on that plane. They were on the way to spend the afternoon with us. Mitchell, according to Daily Mail, often appears in YouTube videos with Biffle. He wrote this on Facebook. We're devastated. I'm so sorry to share this. He also said he was not sure who Else was potentially on that plane, a Cessna C550 according to the FAA. So that is a awful story out there for those of you that are NASCAR fans. Greg Biffle, very famous and well known race car driver in the NASCAR world, again reportedly dying according to one of his best friends as reported by the Daily Mail. Okay, let's see another story that is out there that I think is, is getting maybe not as much attention as it should. I was texting with producer Ali about this last night and the Brown University shooting certainly killed two people. This shooting at mit. A professor at MIT was assassinated two days later, unknown assailant fatally shot MIT professor Nuno Lauro and I'm probably mispronouncing his name inside his Boston home about 50 miles away from that other shooting. The FBI agent says they don't think there's a connection, but other people are saying, is there a connection here? And the, the idea that a MIT professor who was an expert in nuclear weaponry would be killed like this is, it's a story that I think should get a lot of attention. He is a theoretical physicist and fusion scientist that has specializes in nuclear science, engineering and physics. And there are a lot of discussions about how is this 47 year old dad of three just getting killed, MIT professor with nuclear weapons training background. Is there something more to this again that happened here recently? So all of those stories being discussed. By the way, we're going to talk with Jonathan Alpert at the bottom of the hour about how to handle friends and family who may have Trump derangement syndrome as the holidays are now upon us. But I also wanted to play this for you. Piers Morgan had Candace Owens on his program. We haven't spent a lot of time talking about this, but Candace Owens has been chasing the allegations or conspiracy. She's been arguing that somebody other than this crazy guy killed Charlie Kirk. And Piers Morgan pressed her on that and this is what that sounded like in their conversation.
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Clay Travis
Listen, there is specifically two people at Turning Point USA and I have communicated that information to Erica and Justin Strife that I would not be surprised if they had foreknowledge of Charlie Kirk being assassinated.
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Buck Sexton
But you have any evidence?
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Clay Travis
I'm not going to name, I am not going to name those people. Okay? Because it's not right for me to name those people until I know for a fact that.
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Buck Sexton
Did you give the names to give the names to Erica? Yes, gave the names to Erica. Of two employees, current employees at Turning Point who you believe were involved in the preparation for the murder of Charlie Kirk, is that what you're saying?
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Clay Travis
I told them that if, if I were in your shoes, they would, these would be two employees that I would look further into.
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Buck Sexton
What evidence do you have that they had any prior knowledge of the murder?
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Clay Travis
Because I don't have concrete evidence is the reason why I'm not naming them.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, this is crazy. This is why I give credit and I am optimistic that when this trial takes place that we are going to be able to hear more and see more of what motivated this assassin. And the Washington Post had a story that was out that I thought was significant and worthy of discussing the Washington. Let me read some of this. This Tyler Robinson, this far left wing activist who killed Charlie Kirk based on all the evidence and this is the Washington Post profile that they did surrounding this alleged assassin who will be standing trial soon. A few times I'm reading from the Washington Post, when he was drunk, Robinson would joke about right wing politicians saying like that guy's going to catch a bullet one day. No one took it seriously. And they would say he would say it when he was drinking. He reacted to Trump being shot by celebratory joke. And they said that he increasingly and his roommate were angry about right wing politicians and an anti trans sentiment. In Utah. They show the roommate asked friends whether they wanted to attend an anti Trump protest after the 2024 election. The roommate viewed Trump's election, I'm reading from the Washington Post as a loss for trans rights and was distraught. More than once the person said he saw Robinson cradling his sobbing roommate in his arms. This is the trans roommate, I believe. This is the man who identified as a woman. I sometimes get crossed up on this team. I believe that's true. Correct me if I'm wrong. In February, the roommate was furious when people came over to watch a basketball game, NBA game, according to people who were there. One of the visitors said something about trans athletes and how ridiculous it was for trans athletes to be competing. And the roommate interrupted him and shouted repeatedly to shut up about that. And all the room went quiet before play eventually resumed. And also this person says Robinson and the trans roommate, the killer, the alleged assassin, would complain about right wing figures in the news, including Trump. So again, the motivation here I think is very clear. I also understand the desire among many to believe that there is something larger in play than just one person can get a rifle and go end the life of somebody as significant as Charlie Kirk. And thankfully we dodged this with President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania on July 13. But it's I Think beyond the pale. To suggest that someone at Turning Point was involved in trying to encourage the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I mean, that is, I think, absolutely a crazy loony Ben take. And one of the things that I think is very challenging in modern media is there are very few consequences for crazy opinions. And actually, we've created a media ecosystem that can reward crazy opinions. And I think that's something that is going to be important to grapple with in the years ahead. How do we reconcile when people say things that end up not being true? And I'm not talking about just getting predictions wrong. We get predictions wrong on this show all the time. Those of you who've listened to this show for a long time know that, for instance, I said we were going to have a red wave in 2022. Didn't materialize. I was wrong. I came on, I said I was wrong. You know, we got a red wave in Florida, we got a red wave in New York. It didn't happen in other cities and states. And then in 2024, we did get a red wave, and it brought President Trump in. And so you could feel the building of the red wave. I was just early in my forecast. I think, honestly, the Dobbs decision muted what would have been a red wave in 2022. That's my opinion. I think that abortion got out a lot of Democrats, and it forestalled the red wave until 2024. And by the way, you can argue that if we had gotten a red wave in 2022, Joe Biden would have stepped down then and said, I'm not running for reelection. But the Democrats would have had a full primary, Republicans would have had a full primary, and we wouldn't have ended up with Trump versus Kamala. We may have ended up with. I think Trump still probably would have won the overall Republican nomination, but who knows who the nominee would have been for Democrats? I don't think it would have been Kamala. And so you get things wrong. That's part of this business. It's hard to forecast the future. Nobody is perfect at it. But when you say things that are able to be proven incorrect, what is the metric under which there are consequences for that? I think it's something that in the world in which we live, it's very hard for me to sue, for instance, because somebody defamed me, because I'm a public figure. So if you go on social media at any moment, people are saying awful things about me. They're saying awful things about Buck, they're saying awful things about many different people in public life. And because the standard is so substantial for a public figure to be able to sue, we almost have created a world where you can say anything about anyone. And if they are a public figure in the United States, it's almost impossible for there to be any form of defamation that is recoverable. And so that actually leads, I think, to an incentives culture where you can say awful things about whoever you don't like. Awful, untrue things, not opinions. Right. Me saying I think Tim Walls is an awful, awful governor and was an atrocious vice presidential candidate and didn't actually appeal to men at all. And Democrats made it a tremendously boneheaded decision there. That's all well intentioned. I believe everything I just said. But if I took the next step and said I think Tim Walls is, you know, he's a drug dealer, that would be totally made up. I don't think there's any evidence whatsoever to support it. But I don't know that Tim Walls could sue because he's a public figure. And the standard of public figures is you can basically say anything about them and there are no consequences. I think this is going to become more and more challenging in a social media age. It's something that I spend a lot of time thinking about, and this is me going down into the weeds legally. But the New York Times v. Sullivan standard when it comes to free speech and the First Amendment and how that is implicated, it doesn't really fit the modern era in which we live. It's an outdated policy precedent from the 1960s that I don't think fits the modern reality of media in 2025 and 2026. Something to think about, something to put a pin in it. I don't even know how many Supreme Court justices really get this. Several of them have started to say, hey, you know what? This idea of Times v. Sullivan needs to be modified. Clarence Thomas has talked about it. I think it's a huge deal. I think it's a substantial story that is going to be generationally important in the years ahead. But just putting a pin in it. Wanted to to play that cut and use it kind of as a jumping off point to talk about public commentary and what the standard should be when it comes to what is said and what is not. Look, Buck learned a lot from his time in D.C. between that entering the media, he's connected the dots on how quickly political power can turn into financial power. Insiders have always had a head start until now. It's one of the reasons he started writing a weekly E newsletter called Money and Power. Money and Power gives everyday Americans access to the kind of fast moving intelligence that used to stay locked behind closed doors. 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Clay Travis
This is where mindset comes in.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Thursday edition of the program and let's get to some talkbacks. AA had this say just want to say thank you guys for awesome 2025. Keep up the good work and hope you guys have a really good holiday season. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, all that good stuff. And you know, thanks again. Really love listening to you guys. Y' all are awesome. Oh, it's super nice. We'll have more talkbacks. We've got a guest coming up at the bottom of the hour, Jonathan Alpert. You guys loved him. We talked to him right before Thanksgiving about how to deal with family members that have been driven insane by President Trump. And a lot of you out there want wanted to hear from him again. So we have brought him back. We will talk with him. And if you guys want to load up phone lines, if you want to ask questions, we've got some talkbacks. But if you go right now, 800-282-2882 quickly and give us a succinct question or give us a succinct talkback, we can get that for him. Cozier. It's absolutely phenomenal. We absolutely love everything about this overall brand. They have so much incredible content up there on their site for all of you and you can get hooked up right now. If you go to cozyearth.com you get great gifts this holiday season, whether it's the brand new. Incredible. The bubble blanket is so great. I sleep every night on the bamboo sheets. They are the perfect combination of softness and comfort. Trust me, you're going to love this company. Go to cozyearth.com today. That's C O Z Y earth.com use my name Clay as the promo for up to 20% off. That's code Clay for up to 20% off. And be sure and mention you heard about us at Clay and Buck if you get the post purchase survey. That's cozyearth.com code clay. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are joined now by Jonathan Alpert psychotherapist in New York City and D.C. author of the forthcoming book Therapy Nation. We talked with you back in around Thanksgiving, Jonathan, and there was a great feedback from the audience. So given the fact that Christmas is nearing, we are exactly one week from Christmas Day, if I'm doing my math correctly, and I think I am, and obviously Hanukkah is underway, what is the number one piece of advice you would give anyone out there that is going to be with friends and family who hate President Trump? Many of the people listening to us right now are big Trump supporters. What is the number one piece of advice when it comes to holidays with Trump haters?
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Jonathan Alpert
Well, Clay maybe get a life. But that aside, you know, I think people need to recognize that family and friends are or at least should be more important than Donald Trump or any political figure that may be in our country. But all too often that's not the case. We have people who are dividing families, cutting off relatives, loved ones, friends just because of the way that someone voted. And as a therapist, I mean, I'm seeing this endlessly since Thanksgiving. People are coming in, talking about high anxiety about seeing their Trump loving uncle or even their progressive cousin over the holiday. So it's a real problem in our society. And what I'm seeing this year seems worse than in years past. And I think part of the problem is people have become, their anger has become hardened and it's become part of their personality. So we really need to try to examine that and figure out how to work with these people. And sometimes as simple as saying pass the gravy may work. Just to remind people like we're here for the holiday dinner not to discuss.
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Buck Sexton
Politics, we've got Kathy in Birmingham, Alabama. She has a question for you. Kathy, you're talking with Jonathan Alpert. You've got a dad who is a major Trump hater. Ask your question.
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Caller
How do you deal with it? He is 90 years old and Clay, he was, he sounded, I thought it was my own father that called in the bill from Wisconsin. My father's name is Bill and he is from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. And he, Bill from Wisconsin is exactly how my father is treating his three adult children.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you for the call. What should she do? You didn't hear earlier, but we had a caller, Bill from Wisconsin, who just hates Trump. Sounds like her dad. 90 years old is that way too. What would you suggest that she should do? Is it completely ignore everything having to do with Trump? What's the best way to get through the holidays with some semblance of sanity in the household.
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Jonathan Alpert
Yeah. And I think accepting that there will be people who hate Trump or hate Joe Biden or hate Kamala Harris. But again, like recognizing that no one political figure should dominate a holiday and maybe getting back to the importance of the holiday and what it's all about and maybe there can just be a brief acknowledgment. I understand that we don't see eye to eye politically, but I love you. You're my father, you're my daughter, whatever the case may be. And let's focus on family and enjoying the holiday together. So most of the times that will work.
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Buck Sexton
We also have another question. I appreciate people calling in. Ryan in Boston has a question for you. Jonathan Alpert on with us now.
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Caller
Gentleman, the great topic and Bill from Wisconsin, you have to realize you don't get every vote and he's one of the guys who go the other way. But I noticed little kid people going after Reagan and I don't even repeat the things they said. So this goes on politically. It seems more from the left. They do get kind of vicious. And I always wanted to know, I believe on an emotional level, and I ask you, are these people stunted emotionally because people now are excluding people from Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners and they want no part of these, they don't want no part of these individuals because they can't control their political views at dinners anymore. You know, I could, what I could do is what I do is I just walk away. During Thanksgiving, I could watch football. I'm a sports fan. Or even Christmas, they have games I could watch and just walk away from any kind Looney Tunes conversation. But a lot of people on the other side don't like it at all. People are being excluded. And a good example I saw as a young guy when Pat Buchanan ran for president, even Republicans got vicious calling names. So name calling is permitted in politics, but tampering with the actual agenda is not.
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Buck Sexton
John, thank you for the call, Ryan. Jonathan, I this is something that I think everybody is, is grappling with and it's not going to go away. And I think I asked you this last time, but but I find it super interesting is Trump derangement syndrome as it exists today. And I would say there's about 20% of Americans that just genuinely hate Trump with every fiber of their being. Is it going to translate to other politicians on the Republican side of the aisle? Let's say it's J.D. vance or Marco Rubio or Ron DeSantis, whoever is the next flag bearer for the Republican Party, in your experience, does this kind of hate translate? Or if Trump steps off the stage, which he will do in January of 2029, does it then sort of leave with him?
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Jonathan Alpert
Yeah, it's a great question, Clay. And I remember you did ask that last time. I think to some degree the hate does stick around for into the next president, whoever that may be, but maybe to a lesser extent because Trump has just been such a polarizing figure and he came out of the business world and most likely we'll have a politician that steps up into the presidency next time and not this outsider that Trump was. And I think a lot of people just had trouble reconciling, like how can this guy, a real estate tycoon and TV star, become president? And a lot of people just could not be okay with that and reconcile that. So I don't think we'll quite have that at play and that hatred. But yes, to your point, I think there are always going to be people who hate the other side. One of the differences that I've seen is the hatred towards the right seems to be much more potent than the hatred towards the left. Plenty of patients of mine didn't like Biden or Harris, but it never rose to the level of wanting the either of those people dead. But we've certainly seen that on the other side.
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Buck Sexton
Mary in Texas has an opinion. I'm curious what you would think of her opinion. Mary, you've got Jonathan Alpert on with us. What have you got for us?
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Caller
Well, the basic things about being with your family or friends during the holidays is just very, very, very lovingly, very kindly say, look, we've been together for 90 years, you know, 40 years for children, husband, wife. This isn't about what's going on in politics. This is about Christmas. This is about being with family. Let's take responsibility as adults, as human beings to be loving with each other, to be Christian with each other. And the rest is going to be what it is. You're going to think what you're going to think. You're going to want to do what you're going to want to do. But let's leave it away from around us.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you. Very good advice, Jonathan.
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Jonathan Alpert
Oh, excellent advice from Mary. That's pretty much what I tell my patients, that friends and family are far more important than politics and they should transcend any, any occupant of the White House. Unfortunately, we're not seeing that this holiday season. But that's great advice from Mary, historically.
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Buck Sexton
We talked with Brianna Lyman from the Federalist in the second hour of the program I love because it teaches you that you're way tougher than you think you are and that the country is way tougher than many people think it is. I would imagine that in the wake of the. The Civil War, there were probably a lot of family gatherings that took place, particularly in border states where people fought for different sides of the country, north and south, that it took a long time to get through. Certainly for those of you out there who remember the 1960s, I would imagine during the Vietnam War, there were a lot of contentious Thanksgivings and Christmases. Are you optimistic that we will come through and that sanity will win, or are you concerned that in a social media era, it's harder for sanity to triumph going forward? In other words, how perpetual do you think the divisions in the country are compared to past history and looking forward to.
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Jonathan Alpert
Yeah, and I think if people could look at history, we'd probably be better off now than we are. Our mental health would be better off. But then when you enter into the mix, social media and echo chambers that people surround themselves in, it's really only intensifying the division in our country. And that's part of what my forthcoming book, Therapy Nation, is about. Like, just this division. And it's actually fueled in part by my profession. We have therapy culture that is placing blame on everyone but their patient. Of course, it's your boss that's the bad guy or your spouse. It's not your fault. So we don't have resilience being taught to patients these days. We have quite the opposite. We have grievance culture that's taking hold. We have fragility, and that's a big part of the problem. And again, if people could just look at our country's history, and you make a good point, that during the Civil War and after it, female families probably still got together and loved each other.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you so much for joining us, Jonathan Alpert. If people want to read more of what you are doing, I know you got a book coming out called Therapy Nation. Where should they find you?
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Jonathan Alpert
People can find me on on X or Twitter at Jonathan Alpert and Also my website, Jonathan Alpert.com outstanding stuff as always.
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Buck Sexton
Have good holidays and we look forward to to talking to you again.
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Jonathan Alpert
Yeah. Thank you, Clay. Have a great holiday.
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay travis BUCK SEXTON show Thank you so much for hanging out with us on this Thursday. Tomorrow will be the final show of the 2025 year. Now, we will still have guest hosts. We, we will have best of specials. But Buck is already out on his Christmas vacation and I will be out after tomorrow. We'll have a lot of fun breaking down all of that with you guys. Our Talkback function was not working flawlessly. Go figure, during the last segment. So I couldn't get to people who had left talkbacks. But let me hit Becky from Phoenix right here. She wanted this to get out when we were talking with Jonathan Alpert.
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Clay Travis
Gigi, hey, it's Becky from Phoenix.
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Buck Sexton
I disagree with this guy.
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Clay Travis
It's not about who you voted for.
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Buck Sexton
It's the ideology.
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Clay Travis
And it's not a political figure. It's how you believe. And when that is the root of your disagreements, then maybe you do have, you know, justification of saying, you know what, sorry, we're not, we don't see eye to eye, but we're still family, we're still friends.
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Buck Sexton
That's it. Okay. Thank you for that talk back. Breaking news that's just coming down this according to the Daily Mail, authorities say they have now identified the shadowy figure whose face they have I'm reading from their their site whose face they have been attempting to find with the help of grainy surveillance footage. A name has not yet been released and no one is in custody. But again, that video that all of you have been seeing of the person of interest walking in the area of Brown University and Providence, Rhode Island. This guy fired 40 rounds, killed two students, wounded 12 more. And now there is also a discussion that there may be a connection between the Brown shooting and the killing of MIT Professor Nuno Lauro, a nuclear scientist. So they are now trying to figure out did the Brown University shooter also kill this MIT researcher. And what might the connection be between both of these attacks, if any? But again, hopefully tomorrow we will have more details on this pursuit that has now reached six days. But again reporting from the Daily Mail that authorities believe they have identified who this individual is. I would suspect that if they have identified who this individual is that they will either hopefully soon be announcing that they are getting and pursued and have arrested this guy or that they will be providing that name more details of what this individual looks like and asking for all of your help to hopefully track down who this person is. So again, I wanted to make sure that I updated you with all of that that is coming down literally in real time as as this show has been progressing. So that is all going on out there tomorrow. Let's have some fun. I'm gonna put a challenge up. What are the best Christmas movies? I was thinking about this last night. I've got not a ton of work that I have to do tonight in the grand scheme of things. So I was thinking maybe the Travis family is going to get together and watch a Christmas movie. What is the best Christmas movie in the minds of this illustrious and incredible audience? And best is in quotation marks, right? Because first of all, you have to define what is a Christmas movie, right? And then you have to say, well, do you mean an ennobling, incredible feeling of Christmas gratitude and experience? And you know, you could say, for instance, it's a Wonderful Life, which is a more serious film. Or are you saying, hey, I just want to be entertained? It's really hard to beat Chevy Chase's Christmas Vacation. It's really hard to beat A Christmas Story, Elf, whatever. The movies are out there that are just super entertaining. What is your standard? I would tend to go for entertaining over larger message. And this is probably going to get me as much hate as when I said that R B music was overrated. And all of you who play the flute are. You made a really poor decision. I'm even nervous to say it. I really do like the movie. Love, actually. I think it's really well done. It's a great Christmas movie. I watched it on a plane. I had missed it for like 20 years. I know. It's a romantic comedy. Really good. Love. Actually, can you not. You guys don't trust me on anything anymore, do you? But I want to get your talk backs. Let's have some fun with that tomorrow. Home Alone. Tough to beat. Is Die Harder? Is Die Hard Not a Christmas Movie? Has been an ongoing debate for the last 30 some odd years. Remember, it was a Christmas party at Nakatomi Plaza that began the hostage takeover there. And what I think is probably the best action adventure movie that's ever been made, Die Hard. It's impossible to sit down and not think Die Hard is incredible. The first one. All right. I love all of you. You are all incredible. Thanks for making 2025 so great. Final show of of the calendar year tomorrow. See y' all then.
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Clay Travis
This is where mindset comes in.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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