Hour 3 - Democrats’ Flip on Border Security

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 3 - Democrats’ Flip on Border Security
Date: January 27, 2026
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

In this hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton examine the radical shift in the Democratic party's stance on border security and immigration enforcement. They draw stark comparisons between rhetoric from the Obama era and the current language used by prominent figures on the left, and explore how these rhetorical changes reflect broader trends in national politics, media influence, and public attitudes. The hosts use humor alongside sharp critique, touch on new entrepreneurial trends, respond to listener calls, and venture into entertaining side-discussions, all the while maintaining a conversational, energetic tone.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Dramatic Shift in the Border Security Conversation

[02:25–08:37]

• Context-setting: Both hosts comment on the unusually cold weather across the U.S., segueing to news regarding recent ICE actions and the broader conversation about border security.
• Historical Flashback:
  • Buck plays archival audio from President Barack Obama in 2010 discussing the need for border enforcement and consequences for illegal immigration.

    “Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship… the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.”
    — Barack Obama, [04:56]

  • They use this as evidence that mainstream Democratic positions on immigration were recently far closer to Republican views than they are today.
• Current Rhetoric Decried:
  • The hosts highlight how Democrats now compare enforcement officials to Nazis, noting a major rhetorical escalation and “crazy narrative journey."
  • Rick Wilson (former GOP strategist) audio:

    “I want Stephen Miller to be the number one in the Nuremberg trials. I want him... tried and convicted and dangles.”
    — Rick Wilson, [06:57]

  • Buck and Clay critique the dehumanization of ICE agents and the tendency of the left, represented by people like Stephen Colbert, to demonize law enforcement:

    "ICE agents are Nazis according to Stephen Colbert...”
    — Buck Sexton, [08:42]

• Key Insight: The hosts assert that Democrats now embrace perpetually shifting narratives dictated by political expediency rather than principle or consistency.

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2. Political Cynicism and the Democrat “Bait-and-Switch”

[09:38–14:23]

• Democratic Strategy: Buck characterizes Democrats as adaptable to whatever position power requires, lacking consistent principles.
  • He compares debating Democrats to arguing with someone with “cluster B personality disorders.”
• Border Security Hypocrisy:
  • Buck reminds listeners Democrats recently criticized Trump for not backing a border bill, only to label border enforcement as “Hitler-esque” once policy shifted.
• State-Level Example: Virginia
  • Clay details a “bait-and-switch” with Virginia Democrats, specifically pointing to Abigail Spanberger running as a moderate but enacting a radical agenda post-election.

  • “She was just a vessel for the crazy, Clay, just like Joe Biden was. Joe Biden was a vessel for the crazy...”
    — Buck Sexton, [14:23]

• Trump's Transactional Presidency:
  • Buck suggests Trump stands out for following through on explicit campaign promises, in contrast to typical bait-and-switch tactics.

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3. Audience Interaction: Listener Calls & Talkbacks

[24:35–32:38]

• Call about Kristi Noem:
  • Listener Jerry from NY and the hosts criticize Kristi Noem’s “poor judgment” for recounting shooting her dog in her autobiography, suggesting such communication blunders are self-inflicted wounds.

  • “We agree that the decision in the autobiography to write about shooting the puppies was one of the greatest unforced errors... ever seen...”
    — Buck Sexton, [26:33]

• Discussion on Crowd Control Tech:
  • Caller Craig from AZ asks about military crowd control tech (“Active Denial System,” electromagnetic waves), leading Clay and Buck to speculate about the optics and PR problems with such measures.
• On ICE Incident Investigation:
  • Ailing caller Joe P. from Florida asks if the house of a recently shot suspect was searched; Buck says it “one billion percent” was/will be.
• Beard/Mustache Bet Recap:
  • Listener Amy from Missouri calls in about Clay’s snow-beard bet, leading to a humorous discussion about facial hair and marital approval ("the stash look on you is going to be kind of elite...").

  • “I think the stash look on you is going to be kind of elite. I think you’re going to look a little bit like Kurt Russell in Tombstone, which all the ladies listening are going to be like, ‘Oh, I like that Kurt Russell.’”
    — Clay Travis, [30:28]

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4. Entrepreneurship & Culture Sidebar

[20:24–23:34]

• Sydney Sweeney's Lingerie Brand:
  • The hosts marvel at actress Sydney Sweeney’s launch of a lingerie company, predicting it's a savvy move against the “body positivity” trend and praising her for using sex appeal as a business strategy.

  • “She’s actually going back to, hey, let’s put attractive women in clothes. … People want to buy clothing of people that is better looking than them wearing the clothing as an aspirational idea.”
    — Clay Travis, [22:04]

• Legacy Box Plug: Segues into admiration for American entrepreneurship in media preservation but keeps the tone engaging and light.

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5. Culture & Masculinity: Beard Trends and History

[33:05–37:02]

• History of Facial Hair:
  • An extended, entertaining discussion connects men's facial hair trends to military history — from tricorn hats to the beard’s WWII decline, to today’s “spec ops” archetype.
  • They note J.D. Vance as the first bearded VP since the 19th century.

    “J.D. vance, I believe, is the first bearded president or vice president since the Civil War era. … First bearded president or vice president since like the 1880s or 1890s.”
    — Buck Sexton, [37:02]

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6. Pop Culture & Listener Engagement

[43:03–45:25]

• Listener Feedback:
  • A listener praises their “Hollywood’s Identity” segment for entertainment value.
• Movie & Food Reviews:
  • The hosts riff on new movies (“The Rip”) and Philadelphia cheesesteak authenticity with callers, closing out on a humorous anti-Philly-cheesesteak note:

    “Good night, Philadelphia. We were hoping that we were going to have great ratings in your community and Buck just lit it all on fire.”
    — Clay Travis, [45:04]

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Democrats’ Immigration Evolution:
  “If you’re out there and you’re thinking to yourself, it doesn’t feel that long ago that these arguments... would be considered radical.”
  — Buck Sexton, [05:56]

• Critiquing Extreme Leftist Rhetoric:
  “I want Stephen Miller to be the number one in the Nuremberg trials. … tried and convicted and dangles.”
  — Rick Wilson, [06:57]

• On Inconsistency in Democratic Rhetoric:
  “They will say whatever they have to say, it doesn't matter what they said yesterday, and they'll say something else different tomorrow.”
  — Buck Sexton, [10:39]

• The Narrative Reversal:
  “Trump has now stopped all the illegals from coming in. And he's Hitler. This is who we’re dealing with.”
  — Clay Travis, [11:24]

• Entrepreneurial Admiration:
  “Sydney Sweeney has started her own lingerie company… punching back against this idea that body positivity is a good thing… She's going to cash in…”
  — Clay Travis, [22:04]

• On Beards in American Culture:
  “The whole notion, you'll notice you see a lot of clean shaven American men in the 19th century, in the 1800s… Then when does it stop? It stops in World War II.”
  — Clay Travis, [35:24]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Obama 2010 Border Security Flashback: [04:56]
• Rick Wilson Nuremberg Trials Rhetoric: [06:57]
• Stephen Colbert Rant on ICE: [08:01]
• Democrats’ Changing Narrative Critique: [09:38–14:23]
• Sydney Sweeney Business Analysis: [20:24–23:34]
• Listener Calls & Deep Dives: [24:35–32:38]
• Facial Hair and History Segment: [33:05–37:02]
• Pop Culture Listener Interactions: [43:03–45:25]

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Tone and Style

The show preserves its signature blend of conservative political analysis, irreverence, satire, cultural commentary, and audience interactivity. Clay and Buck move rapidly between hard-hitting critiques, light-hearted asides, historical digressions, and direct listener engagement, maintaining an energetic, conversational dynamic throughout.

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Wrap-Up

Hour three of this episode offers an incisive, comedic, and critical look at the evolving immigration debate and the broader question of narrative and accountability in American politics. While focusing on serious issues like border enforcement and political hypocrisy, the hosts also find space for humor, entrepreneurship, history, and cultural trends, resulting in an engaging and multi-faceted listening experience.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

I know we had to put little speed in a puff jacket this morning. And I will say he looked very cute. If you go on Instagram, you'll see or on my ex account, he's very cute in his puff jacket. He's like, what is this? What kind of peasant wear is this? He's used to just being in T shirts and onesies all the time.

[Buck Sexton]

Giving you an idea. It's frigid here. We still have ICE everywhere. Kids are out of school, hundreds of thousands of people still without power. So we certainly are thinking about all of you out there who are struggling in different parts of the country. Miami. I was looking at this because I saw a headline. It's going to be 32 degrees on Sunday for a low in Miami. I don't know how often it hits freezing in Miami, but that is how cold the whole country is right now as, as frigid weather has set in and potentially another big snowstorm coming across the east coast in the days and weeks in the next week or so. Okay. Several different stories that are out there. I think it's important for you to understand what is going on. Reports from CNN that this individual Preddy, who was shot, had previously been tackled by ice, had his rib broken. That is a sign certainly of, of him having been engaging in obstruction of these ICE proceedings for a very long time. But I, we got some good audio here that I think is significant. And in particular, uh, it has to do with a. Go back in time to a year called 2010, and Barack Obama was speaking about the necessities of applying the law and ensuring that people were not being rewarded for illegally entering into the country. This was not that long ago. I want to find it. This is cut 12, a flashback to 2010. If you're thinking to yourself, it's really kind of crazy the arguments that are made on the left now. This was only 15 years ago. Obama about borders are those in the.

[Barack Obama (archive audio)]

Immigrants rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are illegally with legal status or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws. And often this argument is framed in moral terms. Why should we punish people who are just trying to earn a living? I recognize the sense of compassion that drives this argument. But I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision. And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship. And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, that was 15 years ago. I mean, if you're out there and you're thinking to yourself, it doesn't feel that long ago that these arguments that Democrats are making, which are the foundation of their party, would be considered radical. And I wanted to play some of these cuts, too, for you, because I do think it's important to understand what people are saying. Rick Wilson, Buck, he's the former McCain manager, right? Campaign manager back in the day. I mean, he's been.

[Clay Travis]

He's been an absolutely insane, anti Trump. Like, he's Trump derangement syndrome, number numero uno. I mean, he's completely nuts.

[Buck Sexton]

But, yes, he formerly worked on Republican Project Guy.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, he's one of those, like, you know, the whole thing. You get it.

[Buck Sexton]

So here he is, Buck, saying that he wants Stephen Miller in the Nuremberg Trials. I mean, clearly. I mean, this is what he said, but I think this is kind of evidence. I played for you, Obama, 15 years ago. Here's Rick Wilson, former McCain manager, campaign manager, 23.

[Clay Travis]

I want Stephen Miller to be the number one in the Nuremberg trials. When this is done. When this is done, I want Stephen Miller to be the first one who is tried and convicted and dangles. Okay? I want him to be brought before a court of law because he is the sole executive that runs all this DHS ICE stuff.

[Barack Obama (archive audio)]

The.

[Clay Travis]

I stopped.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, so he wants him hung. I mean, this is. This is. This is kind of the rhetoric that you're hearing now. On the left, here's Stephen Colbert, comedian extraordinaire.

[Clay Travis]

Technically hanged, by the way, because the word police will come for you.

[Buck Sexton]

But, yes, it's not hung.

[Clay Travis]

Hanged.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, I think hung should be the word. Here is Stephen Colbert, comedian extraordinaire, saying as part of his monologue, all about ice. I do think when we talked to Brendan Carr last week, this is something that should be looked into. You're on public airwaves if you want to have a podcast, say whatever you want, but this is supposed to be a guy telling jokes.

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Buck Sexton]

Pavino went on complaining. Look, Dana, they're, they're, they're trying to.

[Clay Travis]

Portray border patrol agents and ICE agents as Gestapo, Nazi and many other words.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, do not compare ICE or border patrol agents to the Nazis.

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That's an unfair comparison.

[Buck Sexton]

The Nazis were willing to show their faces. This is a comedy show. ICE agents are Nazis according to Stephen Colbert. So, Buck, I, I do think it, it is representative and interesting and worthy of true examination how in the space of basically 10 years we've gone from both Democrats and Republicans publicly saying pretty consistently, Hillary Clinton said it all during the 2016 campaign, even if she might not have acted on it. And that's a different topic, that, hey, we've gotta get illegal immigrants out of the country to wide open borders. And if you try to take illegal immigrants out of the country, you are the equivalent of Nazis. It is a really wild, crazy narrative journey that we have been on to reach the arguments of the Democrat party now.

[Clay Travis]

Well, they just say anything that the requirements of power demand in the moment. Right? There's the great thing about being a Democrat is that you're never, you're never boxed in by things like principle, consistency or sanity. You have endless options. What do you have to say now? And you know, if you, if you've ever argued with somebody, this is, this is real. By the way, if you ever argued with somebody who has a number, I think they're called like cluster B personality disorders, but there's a whole narcissistic personality disorder, borderline personality disorder. What you find is that Clay, you're never actually arguing about a thing. You're just dealing with a syndrome all the time. If you want to talk about something, they want to talk about something else or they want to know why you're attacking them or why your tone is so aggressive or why you can never get to the thing. This is arguing with Democrats and this is why being a Democrat is so commonly associated with mental illness. And more and more I think kind of just is a mental illness. But anyway, this is what you are dealing with. They will say whatever they have to say it doesn't matter what they said yesterday, and they'll say something else different tomorrow. And what makes our lives more challenging is living in reality. Because, yes, it's good to be right, but also you have to uphold certain standards and you can't just change the facts as you see fit. And that's what they do. On the immigration thing, Clay, the whole Democrat Party until what feels like five minutes ago was we want to secure. They were hammering Trump. Can I just take a moment here, everybody? They were hammering Trump in the summer of 25. I'm sorry, would that be. I'm trying to get the. When was the election? No. Yes. The summer of.

[Buck Sexton]

Summer of 24.

[Clay Travis]

24. Thank you. Summer of 24. They were hammering Trump for not signing on to a border security bill that they claim was going to stop all the illegals from coming in. Trump has now stopped all the illegals from coming in. And he's Hitler. This is who, this is who we're dealing with. Remember they were saying, you don't really care. You won't even believe the arguments they're making unless you go back and read and watch with your own eyes. You don't want the border to be secure. You're not going along with Biden's border bill. It's insane. These people are nuts.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. And by. And I will say there were a lot of stupid Republicans who lined up there too, Right.

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A couple.

[Clay Travis]

I think one of them was in.

[Buck Sexton]

Oklahoma, we haven't forgotten who suddenly said, oh, yeah, Congress has to act. And by the way, this is one of the downsides of the amount of executive power that is now residing in the White House. If Democrats win in 2028, they're going to run on, hey, yeah, we've got to have border security. They'll run and then they'll open the border wide open again. I mean, it is 100% going to happen January 2029 if they have the ability, if they win the presidency.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, you are absolutely right. But you've reminded me we haven't talked about this and we should get to it. There's been so much news and so much going on. Have you seen the bait and switch that my. I love Virginia as a state. My family, I used to.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, yeah.

[Clay Travis]

What they have done in Virginia, Allison Spanberger ran as like this milk toast moderate. You know, I'm just, she was a.

[Buck Sexton]

Mom who was just trying to make sure that moms could have a good state to call home. That was her campaign.

[Clay Travis]

She, she and the Democrat legislature Now are coming in with the full blown Virginia communist manifesto top to bottom. No more mandatory minimums for rapists. No more mandatory minimums for murder. No more guns allowed to be had by lawful. I mean, you go down this list, this stuff that they are doing is insane or that they want to do. And none of this was talked about in the actual run up the election. This is the classic we say this is what they do in Virginia, this is what they do in Wisconsin. This is what they do everywhere. They run as, oh, I'm just a mom, I just want good things. I just want good schools and health care. And then all of a sudden they're like comrades. Line them up against the wall when they get into power. This is the Democrat playbook you are seeing it in. If we got some Virginia listeners right now, you can fill in some of these details. But Spanberger, the radical, I thought she worked at the CIA and you can trust that she's not, you know, she's not a crazy lady. She's just a vessel for the crazy clay, just like Joe Biden was. Joe Biden was a vessel for the crazy and he was blue collar Joe from Delaware.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, no, it's actually crazy. It's actually completely and utterly bonkers. Where, where Democrats, what Democrats run on and then what they do. Whatever you want to say about Trump and there you can criticize the president across the board. He's doing exactly what he said he was going to do. I'm not sure we have ever seen a more transactional presidency, I. E. You go look at the platform that President Trump ran on, the explicit promises that he made that he was going to put in place. He ran on exactly what he has done so far. Now you can criticize as you can any president the process of that occurring, but I'm not sure we've ever had someone more honestly say, this is what I'm going to do, show up and start to deliver on that as well. So we'll take some of your calls. By the way, I know I said I would get to your calls. 800-282-2882. You can always catch us on talkbacks. Positive buck as we are sitting here talking to you in real time. The stock market has just hit The S&P 500, which is the largest 500 companies in America has just hit an all time high again under President Trump. So I know a lot of times people don't pay attention or tell you when things are going well. Stock market goes down, it's a lead story. S&P 500 today has hit another all time high under President Trump.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

It's relatively rare that I see businesses and I just think to myself, I wish I could put a million dollars.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

I want to invest. I Sydney Sweeney, fresh off of basically doubling American Eagle stock. If you bought stock in American Eagle when their Sydney Sweeney ad campaign, the great jeans campaign debuted, you basically doubled your money. If you just saw those ads and you thought, you know what? Pretty girl jeans, I think this is smart move. It's going to sell. Sydney Sweeney has started her own lingerie company and it is lingerie in the vein that Victoria's Secret was initially doing. Lingerie that is really good looking women in not many clothes. And she is going to make. This is a prediction. Can we clip it? We can do the. I know we've got the, the, the, the predictions filed out there. Kamala, gonna run or not gonna run state. I think Buck actually agrees with me on this. This lingerie company, which I'm sure will expand into whatever lip gloss and like heels or I don't know, everything else associated with things that women buy is going to be. It's going to make Cindy Sweeney a billionaire. And she's got. They launched today just in time for Valentine's Day. We're not getting paid for this, but there are so many dudes out there that are going to see this and I guarantee you they're going to run out of stock. And all she's doing. And I actually think you could say, okay, culturally, why does this matter, Clay? All she's doing is punching back against this idea that body positivity is a good thing. And if you're super fat, you should be proud of that and you should walk around in spandex all day. And she's actually going back to, hey, let's put attractive women in clothes. Like, look, if I had an underwear company, I would not put myself in the underwear to sell the underwear. I don't think anybody would be like, oh, look at Clay Travis in this underwear. I've got to get this. People want to buy clothing of people that is better looking than them wearing the clothing as an aspirational idea. And they don't want to see trans influencers in, in bras and panties. And Sydney Sweeney I think is brilliant in just recognizing how much of this society. Society was BS And I think she's going to cash in the likes of which we haven't seen in a very, very long time in the world of lingerie. So congrats to her.

[Clay Travis]

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Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Let's get to some of your talkbacks and then I will take some of your calls. For those of you who've been waiting, Jerry up in Westchester, New York, just outside the city listening to us on W O R has the this that I got a lot of snow by the way in New York City has this to say FF Hey Clay, Buck, Jerry from Westchester, New York here.

[Clay Travis]

You know, just north of the People's Republic of New York City. You know, Kristi Noem has just a history of poor judgment. Even with her book. She wrote a book and she wanted.

[Buck Sexton]

To include the shooting of the dog story.

[Clay Travis]

They told her not to. She wrote a second book. She insisted on putting it in there. She's so obsessed with sounding tough.

[Buck Sexton]

She doesn't care about the repercussions or.

[Clay Travis]

Have good judgment about what she's saying. That's why you can't put her in.

[Buck Sexton]

A position of power. Look, I don't think anybody's perfect in communication, but I do think the biggest flaw. I agree with Jerry.

[Clay Travis]

I'll just say it. I mean I'm not, I'm always going to be honest with you guys. I think Jerry's right. So there you go.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, so hold on. I think there. If you asked me what are the two biggest failures communication wise of Trump 2.0 year one and I know we're into year two a little bit, but I would say number One is Pam Bondi and the way that they handled the Epstein case. Right. Giving the binders to the influencers and hey, I've got stuff on my desk. That's the biggest flaw of 1.0. I think Noem coming out and saying this guy's a domestic terrorist and he was there to shoot people up is the biggest unforced error of 2.0. There's nothing wrong with saying, hey, we're going to look into this. We certainly don't want anyone to be shot. And making sure that whatever you say is supported by what the facts on the ground reflect. I think Those are the two biggest errors 1 and 2 of Trump 2.0 so far.

[Clay Travis]

And I don't think putting someone who brags about shooting puppies in charge of a sensitive law enforcement operation at the center of Trump policy is a good idea. But that's just me.

[Buck Sexton]

So the decision. We agree that the decision in the autobiography to write about shooting the puppies was one of the greatest unforced errors in an autobiography that I've ever seen in my life. Because you put a small portion of your life experience into any autobiography, and somebody said, we got to make sure that's there. Let's go to Craig in Tucson, Arizona. What you got for us, Craig?

[Caller]

Well, this is the out of control rioters and how to keep them, you know, how to keep our ICE agents safe. And I was wondering if Buck was familiar with the active or advanced denial system that was developed by the military for crowd control. I don't know.

[Clay Travis]

Is this using like, this using, like sound wave basically to deal with the press? I mean, I'm not a. I think.

[Caller]

It'S an electromagnetic wave.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Makes your skin feel like it's burning and. But it stops people in their tracks. And this is available. I don't know why the government doesn't deploy it.

[Clay Travis]

Either that or. Well, I mean, water cannons. It sounds kind of scary if it's a real thing. So that's probably why they don't deploy it, because it might be a little bit of a PR issue, but.

[Buck Sexton]

But also want to save it for actual, you know, like, war related. Did you see Trump say that we have something they called the discombobulator, which we didn't talk about, but he said, I can't really talk about it, but we have this discombobulator, which was evidently used during the Venezuela raid. And there's been all sorts of stories about how exactly we managed to take out the 32 Cuban bodyguards and have all of the casualties only basically on the side of the Venezuelans. Joe P. In Claremont, Florida. Joe P. What you got?

[Caller]

Yeah, this is not a voice synthesizer. I got a sore throat. But in regard to Mr. Mr. Freddie, I have a couple of questions I didn't hear discussed by anybody. The first one is to either prove innocence or to tend towards innocence or guilt on his part. Did we ever get a search warrant for his apartment or his house?

[Buck Sexton]

1. Bill, thank you for the call. One billion percent. They are doing a search warrant of his house and they're investigating everything surrounding him, which is how I think we're finding out that he had previously had the ICE related interaction which led to a broken rib when he was chasing ICE agents trying to obstruct their investigation just a few days before he was shot. So I suspect that we will eventually find a great deal of information going forward about him, and those investigations are underway. This is a funny one, and I am going to have to pay this one off. I think this is. Let me make sure that I get it right. Podcast listener Amy from Missouri. GG hey, Clay and Buck. I really enjoy listening to you guys daily. My question to Clay is, how much snow did you get in Memphis the other day? Because I think I remember hearing you say if it was six inches or less, you were going to be shaving off your beard. What's the word we failed on getting? It's Nashville. But we're in the middle of the ice storm. So I think next week when I am out for the Super Bowl, I will be out for the super bowl with just a mustache. So I am going to have to take the beard off. Buck, I said we were going to get six inches of snow. I think we probably got about four and a half or I don't think we got to six. And then all the ice came in and it's still icy here and hundreds of thousands of people are without power. So once everybody's got their power back on, I will become a Stach man. I will have a mustache only. And I understand. Wait, you're.

[Clay Travis]

You're going. You're doing. I'm going to say this, man. I think the stash look on you is going to be kind of elite. I'm. I think that you're going to look a little bit like Kurt Russell in Tombstone, which all the ladies listening are going to be like, oh, I like that Kurt Russell.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, look, Sydney Sweeney started a lingerie company and there may be some men who are favorably disposed towards that. I feel like I should give back to the women and So I. In time for Valentine's Day. If you're. If you're just looking for a little bit of a sizzle, then I'm going to bring the sizzle. Sydney Sweeney's bringing the sizzle on the lingerie. I'm going to bring the mustache back. You're going to start thinking Tom Selleck, Clay Travis, who's the other famous mustachioed Sam Elliott. I'm going to bring the stash back. Now, I may grow back the beard eventually, but I'm going to go mustache for the Super Bowl. So I lost. I was wrong. I was hoping we were just going to get snow.

[Clay Travis]

I got to know something on this, and we might even need a talk back from her. She's been a little quiet for a while now. What does Laura Travis think about you entering the land of mustache only?

[Buck Sexton]

So I've had a beard since 2002. So before anybody had a beard, I had a beer. So that's 20, what, 24 years. Almost a quarter century of having a beard. I. So some. I don't know if this was ever the case with you, Buck, when you would, like, your dad goes on vacation or whatever. I would. When I was a little kid, I would say to my dad, hey, will you grow a beard while we're away on vacation? Occasion, my dad couldn't grow a beard. Like, he didn't have facial hair. He couldn't. Like, he could not grow a beard. So he never did. But he would say, okay, I'll try. And he'd get a little bit of, you know, a little bit of, you know, peach fuzz. Basically, my kids said to me a few years ago, dad, will you shave your beard off while we're on vacation? I did it. Laura was not a fan. So I. I don't know that Laura is going to respond favorably to the mustache. So I may not be able to stay mustache. But just to make sure that the holiday Valentine's Day has enough spice for everybody out there, I'm gonna. I'm gonna have the.

[Clay Travis]

I'm just saying, I think when it happens, we need a Laura verdict on the mustache. Like, you can relay it to us, or she can do a talk back or.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

But I want to know where she comes out of this, because, you know, even during the show, I shaved my beard at one point.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Who is my dutiful and wonderful wife, love of my life. She was kind of like, I think we need that beard back. So, like, okay, there we go.

[Buck Sexton]

Think. I think for guys who are. Let's say, you know, 25 to 45. I think a beard is almost more common than a non beard. Is that fair?

[Clay Travis]

I've actually looked into this, I've looked into this and, and my, you know, one of the. This is going to be a digression. But you know what, it's the third hour. We've talked a lot about the ice stuff. If you missed that, go back, listen the podcast. We gave you all the details and everything you need so far. So a lot of, a lot of trends and fashion is actually military related. Now for those who are like immediately things are coming to mind like you might own a trench coat, for example. Right. This actually comes from guess what, the trench warfare and what people were wearing to try. So there's also a whole range of different. I mean I'm not even coming up with all them off the top of my head right now, but aviator glasses, although maybe you'd say that's not necessarily for fighter pilots. But guess what? A lot of people associated or a lot of it was from fighter pilots. Bomber jackets. Think about a bomber jacket. Guess, guess what, guess who was wearing bomber jackets. People up in planes, super high end.

[Buck Sexton]

Watches that are used to time like the, I mean all the pilots used to have to have a specific type of watch, right?

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[Clay Travis]

In fact, the tricorn hat, that is so much really the, the quintessential symbol of the Revolutionary War era in America comes from the rounded hat of Spanish mercenaries who were fighting up and I believe it was Flanders. And then there were some Americans and some other Europeans who came, you know, came into, or rather some British came into contact with these mercenaries and they realized that this was better for on the parade ground moving the very long muskets they had side to side. So that's why they started flipping up the sides of the hat, by the way. It was kind of a military fashion. That's why we got the tricorn hat. You can go look this stuff up. It's. It's all pretty amazing. I bring this up because the whole notion, you'll notice you see a lot of clean shaven American men in the 19th century, in the 1800s.

[Buck Sexton]

No.

[Clay Travis]

In fact, you see some pretty wild facial hair stuff. You know, General Burnside, one of Clay's favorites, of course. Or side. Yeah, Burnside.

[Buck Sexton]

That's where sideburns came from.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Ambrose Burnside, who was the leader of the Union army in 1862. His, you know, his mutton chops basically became very, very famous.

[Clay Travis]

You know, your boy over here is trying to keep up with some Civil War stuff, buddy. You know, you got to be proud. So General Burnside, there's all this, but you look at all the old photos and you see all these guys, they all have facial hair. And then when does it stop? It stops in World War II. World War I you get a lot of mustaches. World War II it stops. Why does it stop? The American GI for grooming standard. Everyone's shaving everyone in the military. You look back, you look at Marines, you look at. We didn't have like the sort of the spec ops.

[Buck Sexton]

Was that gas mask related because you needed to be able to fasten a gas mask? Is that why it suddenly started?

[Clay Travis]

That that was a big part of it is that you couldn't seal a gas mask if you had properly, especially if you had like a really, you know, thick beard situation. So also just in general though, if you're going to like, I don't think you want to have a woolly beard if you're in Guadalcanal. Like I'm, you know, there's plenty of, a lot of things creepy Crawley is going to get in there. The point is the American GI became clean shaven. And so the symbol of American masculinity and patriotism was uniformly clean shaven. And guess who kept this going? Gillette. And a lot of these big companies with, you know, stay close to your woman and like all this stuff with.

[Buck Sexton]

The shaving and everything else.

[Clay Travis]

So then we've gone through different iterations of mustache and whatever, but we're back now. And I think, and I've said this.

[Buck Sexton]

Before, that it's a big part of.

[Clay Travis]

It is kind of the elite masculine archetype of the 21st century in America has been the spec ops bearded Iraq Afghanistan veteran. And that that has played a big role in the return of the beard, in my opinion, in sort of trends in this country.

[Buck Sexton]

And by the way, tying this all back together, J.D. vance, I believe is the first bearded president or vice president since the Civil War era. I think that's correct. You fact checkers out there, Beard, not a mustache. First bearded president I think since the post Civil War when everybody who was elected was a Republican, you know, Grant and company was a Republican who had fought in the Civil war. I think. J.D. vance, first bearded president or vice president since like the 1880s or 1890s. So cycling it all back around. Maybe I'm going to make the mustache come back in prominence for the Super Bowl. It will be coming and I want to tell you, these guys do incredible work. Tunnel The Towers foundation supports America's greatest heroes. These include the U.S. service members and first responders who died or have been severely injured in the line of duty, as well as homeless veterans. The Foundation's Gold Star Fallen First Responder, Smart Home and Homeless Veteran Program honor the sacrifices made for us by the men and women who risk their lives and bodies for our country and our communities. The Foundation's Never Forget programs engaged thousands of people in 911 remembrance across America through hundreds of runs, walks and climbs and golf outings every year. The Tunnel the Towers 911 Institute helps teachers educate kids in kindergarten through 12th grade about America's darkest day, enabling our nation to keep its vow to never forget. Help support Tunnel the Towers and its important programs. Never forget 911 or the sacrifices of our country's greatest heroes on that day and thereafter. Donate 11amonth to tunnel the towers at t2t.org that's t the number 2t.org keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Clay.

[Clay Travis]

I think we should keep it that way.

[Buck Sexton]

Amen. By the way, Grok says the last person to have a beard or goatee was Charles Fairbanks, who was the VP for Teddy Roosevelt from 1905 to 1909. So JD Vance. First bearded guy in over 100 years.

[Clay Travis]

Got some great talkbacks here. Let's get to it. First up, BB podcast listener Robert.

[Buck Sexton]

Hey, Clan Buck. I'm listening to you guys on iheartradio and this is our one to Hollywood's identity. This is the probably the most entertaining segment I've ever listened to you guys that you've done. And I've been listening since, I don't.

[Clay Travis]

Know, five years now. So keep it up.

[Buck Sexton]

This is hilarious. I love you guys.

[Clay Travis]

Bye. Well, we love you too. What were we, were we just like making fun of Hollywood on that one? He's talking about a Friday.

[Buck Sexton]

I think it was talking about the culture shift. I mean that's the sinners. Sixteen nominations and how the culture of Hollywood unfortunately is not rewarding excellence.

[Clay Travis]

Speaking of movies, did you you watched the Rip? What's your what's your 30 second review on the Rip on Netflix?

[Buck Sexton]

So the Rip is Matt Damon and Ben Affleck and it is a, what I would say is like kind of an old school cop movie. Solid entertaining hour and 40 minutes. You're not going to watch it and be like this is awful. It's not the greatest cop movie ever made set down in South Florida. And I, I mean I watched it with my, my wife, my mother in law is here because so many people are out of power. She power. So she's been at the house with us. All three of us enjoyed it. So wide variety of perspectives. It's Netflix. And again, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, nothing. Just sheer entertainment.

[Clay Travis]

AA podcast listener Eric, hit it. I listening to you guys talk about cheese steaks and I gotta gotta admit I love good Philly cheese steak. But that trash they sell at Geno's is horrible.

[Buck Sexton]

Horrible.

[Clay Travis]

And you're right. But the Cheez Whiz is trash.

[Buck Sexton]

Go to New Jersey.

[Clay Travis]

Go to three brothers right outside of Maguire Air Force Base. It is phenomenal. They got a special cheesesteak that's amazing. Well, that's obviously a man there with Eric Clay of fantastic taste and also will speak truth to power, which is that big cheesesteak in Philadelphia. Not good at all. You can find artisan cheese steaks that are delicious.

[Buck Sexton]

Good night, Philadelphia. We were hoping that we were going to have great ratings in your community and Buck just lit it all on fire. So did our AA talk back guy there. I still like Geno's and Pat's. I got a positive feedback for you there. Tomorrow we'll have more fun with you. It's going to be a crazy week and we'll keep hanging out with all y'.

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