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Asma Khalid
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Tristan Redman
But what's happening in America isn't just a cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
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Asma Khalid
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Tristan Redman
Tristan Redman in London. And this is the Global story.
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Asma Khalid
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Tristan Redman
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Buck Sexton
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Tristan Redman
When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes or just asked why Benghazi?
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Buck Sexton
The truth became a web of lies.
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Tristan Redman
From prologue projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.
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Asma Khalid
What difference at this point does it make?
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Tristan Redman
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We've got a bunch of different stories that we are chasing. Today President Trump had a multi hour long call with Vladimir Putin. The impact of that call according to President Trump's statements are that there will be a meeting between Trump and Putin in Budapest and that there will be a meeting very soon between high level advisers. The United States initial meeting will be led according to President Trump by Secretary of State Marco Rubio and a meeting location to be determined. So the goal there to try and end the war that is taking place right now In Ukraine, President Trump writing a great deal of momentum off of the release of the hostages and the positive directions that things are moving in that context. Now, we also have John Fetterman potentially facing a Senate challenge for not being committed enough to crazy left wing ideals. That is according to an Axios report. Uh, we've been talking about Mom Donnie making his initial appearance on fox news. Martha McCollum asking the big questions of Mom Donnie, and Mom Donnie being frankly, very good at dodging responsibility for much of his public commentary. Now, he did say, buck, and I think we have this audio. I wanna make sure we pull it up. He did publicly apologize to police officers for saying that he had previously said they should be defunded. He also said it was too early to give Trump credit for the Gaza peace deal. And so let me hit a couple of those. Here is cut 23. Martha McCollum says, hey, does President Trump deserve credit for the peace deal? And Mamdani said it's too early. Cut 23. I continue to have concerns because I've seen reports still in the last few.
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Buck Sexton
Days that five Palestinians were killed by the Israeli military.
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Tristan Redman
And that's what gives me paus about issuing any kind of praise or celebration.
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Buck Sexton
At a moment when it is still.
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Tristan Redman
So in its infancy. And what I will tell you is that in that same moment, it is also one that requires a focus on ensuring that, that hope, that belief in a better future is one that is emblematic in our policies right here in New York City as well. And that's what we're hoping to lead with. Would you give President Trump credit or not?
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Asma Khalid
To any extent?
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Tristan Redman
Credit or not? I think it's too early to do so. Too early to say. But if it proves to be something that is lasting, something that is durable, then I think that that's where you give credit.
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Buck Sexton
Can I just. One quick thing, Clay, because we talked about it. He's saying the five Palestinians were killed. Where's the outrage? Where's the condemnation? Or even just the conversation about the public executions, you know, summary judgment and execution of captives by Hamas that occurred in the last 24 hours. I mean, they're bounding and gagging, tying up, blindfolding and shooting people in the back of the head on the street. And there's. I don't see any of these people that are so concerned about Gazans, concerned about those Gazans. It seems quite strange.
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Tristan Redman
Yeah. And I also think it's funny the way this is covered. There's a big article in the New York Times about Mamdani. Going on the Martha McCollum Show. Here's a couple of the paragraphs. This is how the New York Times covered it. Since Mr. Mamdani's rapid rise to the top of New York City politics, Fox News has led a right wing media effort to characterize him as an avatar of the Democrat Party grown too beholden to its factions on the far left. The network's contributors often point to his thin political experience, past comments about law enforcement, and proposals to increase taxes on New York's wealthiest residents as both disqualifying and dangerous to New York City, America's largest financial center. Yes, this guy's all very accurate. And it's written as if it's like, oh, my goodness, can you believe all the crazy things they say on Fox News about Mamdani? He wants to tax everyone who makes money in New York City into virtual oblivion. So that is one star of the New York City Democrat Party. Now, the other star of the New York City Democrat Party in New York City is aoc. And I wanted to play this for you, Buck. This was last night. Bernie Sanders and AOC had a town hall with Kaitlan Collins. And she was asked, AOC was why are Republicans successful online? And she said two different things. One, because we'll just listen to her. I won't characterize it. Here's cut 18.
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Asma Khalid
When they talk about Republicans and their success online, they have been successful because they have also been very clear, especially digitally, about what they believe. That women are inferior, that do not and they do not deserve equal rights. That they believe that LGBTQ Americans are subhuman. That they believe and are circulating disgusting racial and white supremacist messaging. That they are able to get away with digital, digitally and online.
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Tristan Redman
Get. Get away with. This is they have no hope for young men. I mean, I just wrote a book, it's coming out, called Balls, Buck. But this is, this is not a good pitch. I just don't think AOC is very aware of how the Internet works based on that answer.
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Buck Sexton
I want AOC to be the great commie splainer of masculinity for the Democrats. I want her to be out in the forefront telling all young men because they have, as Democrats would say, their lived experience. They have been through men, particularly now in their 20s. They've been through the COVID shutdowns and the complete eradication of free speech, scientific inquiry, and everything else that the left manufactured during that. They've been through the toxic masculinity talks. They've been through CNN doing documentaries about how College campuses are, quote, like hunting grounds for the constant sexual assaults and sexual abusers that are other college students. That's what they're saying. They've been through all of this, and they know that something is really wrong with the Democrat Party. And if the Democrat Party's response is going to be no, actually, your toxic masculinity is the problem. Great, Stay with that. Stay on that. Democrats have AOC tell young men how they should really feel about things. And if they don't agree with her, it's because they're sexist and racist. Love it. Keep it going. Blast it from the rooftops.
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Tristan Redman
That's exactly what she did in cut 19, buck. She's listening to you. She's running the game plan. Cut 19, AOC last night on CNN.
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Asma Khalid
They are able to to radicalize and target and exploit a generation of young boys in particular, away from healthy masculinity and into an insecure masculinity that requires the domination of others who are poorer, browner, darker, or a different gender than them. And that is why they are resonating online, because they are appealing to the most basest and worst parts of human nature.
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Tristan Redman
Toxic masculinity. And I think about this all the time because I've got three boys and also because I just wrote the book, Buck. But the Democrat brand, it has become a slur for young men. They will accuse each other of being Democrats. Black men, white men, Asian men, Hispanic men, teenage young men. I don't know how they come back from this. I am very certain that it is not by having a woman lecture young men that they are actually toxic because that's why they've left in the first place. We don't talk ever. Have you ever heard anybody talk about toxic femininity? Have you ever heard a huge national discussion about how women are toxic and they are destroying the country? Maybe we need to have that conversation because liberal women are toxic and they are destroying the country. But young men have been told their entire lives that they are the problem. And this is me getting on the soapbox because I think about this so much, Buck. I see the world through the eyes of my kids. You and I are roughly of the age and a lot of listeners are out there where we were raised in the idea that men and women should both be able to aspire to the apex of success, whatever it might be. Become president, fly a plane, whatever you want to do. Be an astronaut. Everyone should be able to aspire to the apex, to pursue the meritocracy to the fullest. Extent of their ability. And I think everybody out there nods along and says, yeah, that's good. Men, women, be the best, Be the best that you can be. There's a difference between be the best that you can be, which I would say is the culture and era in which you and I were raised. And women are better than men. And sometime around, and I don't know the exact year, but sometime around 2012, 1014, in that era of social media rising and Barack Obama, we moved from women and men should both be able to be as successful as they possibly can to men are bad. Certainly me too accelerated it. And women are better than men. And we this is the era now that young men are being raised in and they're looking around and saying, why am I being blamed for everything in America? Actually, America is awesome, first of all. Secondly, to a large degree, America is awesome because of brave men and women. But a lot of brave men. And masculinity isn't toxic at all. And so that is I think, the foundational issue that emerged in 2024. And Democrats don't seem capable of addressing it in any way that is going to be successful. I think it's getting worse for them.
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Buck Sexton
I think you could not have civilization as we have come to know it without men embracing their masculinity.
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Tristan Redman
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
I think that if it were not for men who were willing to put their lives on the line and lose their lives to fight for something bigger than themselves, if it were not for men who would spend the longest of hours and make tremendous personal sacrifice and in a sense give their lives in a different way to the pursuit of incredible inventions or exploration or technological advancement or building something, whether it's a skyscraper, a manufacturing plant or a cathedral. Right. If it weren't for men willing to take masculinity in its different forms to the extreme or to its maybe its most appropriate, you could argue, level its highest level, then we would not have the civilization that we enjoy right now. And that I think is forgotten or rather entirely suppressed by the angry and bitter feminist left which has sadly, tragically led an entire generation, really now, a couple of generations of American women who buy into that stuff down a pathway that is not fulfilling, that is filled with bitterness and self pity and is ultimately a bad life course. And this is just the reality that you see. I mean, I've said this before, I've had this talk with many people, including in my own family, that I think the sex and the cityification of American women has been horrendously undermining for their long term happiness. And I know they can say, oh, I'm mansplaining, I'm a man, what do I know? You know, I'm in my 40s, I've seen a lot and I pay attention and I actually want what's best for men and for women in this country. And there's been a huge departure from civilizational norms that are the basis for building our civilization, which is of course family cohesion. It is male and female parental roles and spousal roles and roles within a civilization itself, within society. And we pay the price for that. And you can just see this all around. Clay, it's a very sad thing. We talked about this another day. I know so many women now because they're my age that I grew up with in New York who did this sort of eat, pray, love through your 20s and 30s thing. And maybe they had some job in, I don't know, you know, marketing or PR or advertising or something that they liked but weren't really that invested in. Not like a life's calling. They're not heart surgeons and now they're unmarried, they look around, they don't have families. It's hard to start a family at that age. Biological reality kicks in. Being 44 year old woman, it's not easy to have kids. And they look around and they want someone to explain this to them. And unfortunately the Democrats say it's men's fault. Yes. And that's not true. So this is where we are. I don't know if people can see it in some other lens or some other manner, but men, I think see this and say to themselves, I didn't cause this. And actually it was the people saying that toxic, that men are toxic that convince women to go down this pathway, were effectively there trying to compete with and act as men in ways that are not going to be fulfilling. So there you go.
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Tristan Redman
I think that's well said and I've spent a ton of time. I love this topic. This is a big part of the book. There's a difference between equality and, and sameness. You can treat everyone equal, but it doesn't mean that they're the same. And we spend so much time on this idea to kind of build on what you said and kind of maybe distill it a little bit. We have told men they should be more like women and we have told women they should be more like men. And the result is men don't like, by and large, women who act like men and women do not like men who act like women. And so when you're trying to androgynize the sexes, you're actually driving everybody unhappily away from each other. And to Buck's point, this is what you end up with. A lot of people who are sitting around saying, wait a minute, I made all these good choices and I wanted to have kids and I can't find a man. It's the man's fault. That's where we are.
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Buck Sexton
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Tristan Redman
But what's happening in America isn't just the cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
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Asma Khalid
I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C. i'm.
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Tristan Redman
Tristan Redman in London and this is the Global story.
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Asma Khalid
Every weekday we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
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Tristan Redman
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back into Clay Anne Buck. Caroline Levitt, White House Press secretary. Throwing a haymaker today. She does that a lot, actually. Not like it's just another Thursday. I guess this is 36. Here she is on the Democrat Party. State of play. Hit it.
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Kathleen (Caller)
The Democrat Party's main constituency are made.
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Tristan Redman
Up of Hamas terrorists, illegal aliens and violent criminals.
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Kathleen (Caller)
That is who the Democrat Party is catering to. Not the Trump administration and not the White House and not the Republican Party. Who is standing up for law abiding Americans not just across the country, but around the world.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, if someone's going to like Hamas illegals and violent criminals, 99.9% chance it's a Democrat.
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Tristan Redman
Well, they're wrong on everything. And that's why I was saying with, with Mom Donnie, you need an articulate voice who can help to camouflage the fact that every opinion you have is wrong. And I think Momdani is. I don't think. I think he's way smarter Mom Donnie. Than aoc, but I think they see AOC as that. I think they see Gavin Newsom as that. Right. Somebody who is just really smooth and charismatic and as you like to say. I do, I do find it really funny how many different buttons has Gavin Newsom undone on his dress shirt, you know?
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Buck Sexton
Oh, yeah. When he thinks the ladies are watching, he goes down to the navel.
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Tristan Redman
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iHeart Radio Announcer
I just wanted to call and say that my 21 year old son voted for Trump not necessarily because he was a hundred percent Trump fan, but because for his entire life he was told he was evil and bad and responsible for all the ills in the world because he was a white male. And they are tired of that. And so they sought to support the party that was based on meritocracy. And I think it's a huge problem in the Democratic Party.
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Tristan Redman
Amen, I think. And it's by the way, spiraled away from just white men because initially we were told, oh, white men are the problem with everything. And then it wasn't enough to just say white men, you had to say black men, Asian men, Hispanic men and all young men, they feel it, they feel it deep in their soul that they are being blamed with everything that's wrong. By the way, most things are awesome. I would, I would just point out most things that men helped build throughout the entire history of the United States. Most things are pretty awesome.
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Buck Sexton
I feel like you just gave away the title of your third book after Clay's magnum opus. Balls. The third book will be Men are Awesome.
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Tristan Redman
There we go. Men are awesome. I mean I get, look, there Are some things that stink, right? Not everything in history was great. Slavery, probably not a great thing, right? But it wasn't just white guys who did slavery in America, right? Like this. You've talked about this before, but one of the great failings of Western civilization in general is, is that we have reached a world where huge numbers of people that benefit from Western civilization are such beneficiaries that they're able to be morons and they don't know any history at all. Such that a lot of people out there think that only America ever had slavery. I mean, just. Just study basic history. Everyone. Everyone listening to me right now, trust me on this. Everyone listening to me right now has ancestors that were slaves. White, black, Asian and Hispanic. Every single one of you listening to me right now, at some point in your lifetime, one of your ancestors, probably many of them, were both slaves and slaveholders. I would venture that's true for almost every single person if you study human civilization at all. Slavery was a huge part of all of human civilization, and all of us have in our DNA both slaves and enslavers. I guarantee it. Every single one of you. White, black, Asian, Hispanic. It's always funny. Remember, speaking of the View, we were making fun of the girls on the View yesterday, remember when they found out that Sunny Hostin's family were actually huge slaveholders? And she was so disappointed because her entire public Persona is racism, racism, racism. And then it turns out Sunny Hostin, in the recorded history, recent history of her family were some of the biggest slaveholders. I think it was in Puerto Rico. Of. Of anyone out there. So again, I'm just telling you it doesn't get talked about enough, but is likely true. Do we still have those callers who were weighing in for the question that Buck asked? Are they still there? Kathleen, what you got for us? Kathleen?
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Kathleen (Caller)
Hey, thanks for having me on the show. I swam Catalina.
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Tristan Redman
Buck, Fire. What questions do you have for.
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Buck Sexton
Well, okay, so when. So it was at night, right?
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Kathleen (Caller)
Yes, all the swims are at night. And that now the Santa Ana winds coming off the coast.
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Buck Sexton
What do you tell yourself when you're swimming there?
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Tristan Redman
It's not. It's not boats. It's the wind currents that make it easier.
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Buck Sexton
What I saw online, I thought the boats would be scarier, but apparently the wind currents are worse.
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Kathleen (Caller)
No, there's very little boat traffic out there. It's. The winds lie down at night and it's much easier for a swimmer to get across. They pick up beginning around noon, and it gets. It gets much rougher okay, now, you.
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Buck Sexton
Got to help me here. That area of the world. I know because I was a avid watcher of Shark Week when it actually used to be pretty cool. There are very large great white sharks that are common in that area. When you're swimming in the blackie black, the inky black waters of the, you know, off Catalina island, what are you thinking to yourself about the shark situation?
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Kathleen (Caller)
It doesn't even faze me. I've done all night swims numerous times there. I swam north from Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara Channel, Santa Cruz, into Oxnard. It really doesn't bother me. It's kind of creepy. The first five minutes I'm in, I settle in, and sharks are way, way back there in my head.
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Buck Sexton
That's amazing to me.
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Tristan Redman
Like, this is one of these things.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, where, by the way, are you glad? Are you glad you did it? Did you get super tired?
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Tristan Redman
Did you.
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Buck Sexton
Were you worried you're gonna have to get in the launch boat and not finish it, or were you pretty good to go?
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Kathleen (Caller)
No, I plowed right through that swim. It's one of the best swims I ever did. I've done, you know, 25 or so of the world's great swimsuit and that.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, I gotta ask. Okay, so you're like, you're legit. You're a legit serious, serious ocean swimmer. My man Clay Travis over here, he's got a great head of hair. He's got a great voice. But does he have what it takes to swim from Alcatraz, do you think?
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Tristan Redman
Did she just hang up?
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Tristan Redman
Did we.
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Buck Sexton
I think she just bailed on you, buddy. She's like, I can't. I can't. I can't be held responsible for whatever happens.
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Tristan Redman
Like, she intentionally hung up there rather than. I thought I heard the click. That doesn't happen very often. You know, I did research on this after you talked about the great white attacking the guy in Catalina, supposedly. And we have a lot of listeners in San Francisco. In fact, I met one of them walking through the airport. He came over to me as I was getting on my flight yesterday, and he was like, man, I love you guys. I was in Charleston for the weekend. He was there with his daughter. So he lives in San Francisco. But I was doing research. This may surprise you. And I. I want to say I could be totally wrong on this. So I am open to the argument that I am totally wrong on this. What I saw was that San Francisco Bay is only, like, 15 or 20ft deep. In other words, that if you look out to Alcatraz that the water is actually not very deep at all. Now, some of you are probably San Francisco Bay experts. It gets very deep once you go underneath the Golden Gate or once you go after the other way, you know, underneath the Bay Bridge, I think. But the actual bay where Alcatraz is, it's only 15 or 20ft deep. And so great whites aren't there very frequently, buck, because the water is not deep enough and they don't like the shallows. Kathleen, is she back?
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Kathleen (Caller)
Yes, I'm back.
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Tristan Redman
Okay. Did you hang up because you were certain that I would be eaten by a great white or how do you.
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Buck Sexton
Think I would do at all?
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Kathleen (Caller)
Not at all. You know, sharks really aren't a problem. They are more of a problem up around the San Francisco area, but down around Catalina, yes, there are critters out there, things you come to accept if you're a marathon swimmer. I've had sharks swim.
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Buck Sexton
I love that she refers to like 20 foot great whites as critters. I think that's hilarious.
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Tristan Redman
It's one of these things you expect. You have seen sharks around you when you're swimming on these marathon swims.
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Kathleen (Caller)
Not often. It happened to me right off California, right in La Jolla. I was swimming, just a little training swim, and a couple of sharks looked up at me or they just passed right underneath me. I call them Bob and Irma. And they just came, swam right by me. Not a problem. I left them alone. They left me alone.
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Tristan Redman
And you kept your swim going. There were just a couple of sharks there and you're like, hey, we're cool, no worries. Like I'm just going to let them swim underneath me. I would lose it.
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Kathleen (Caller)
That's exactly right.
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Tristan Redman
Thank you. Kathleen's braver than me. I. But I think I might be right about again. Some of you are probably nautical experts, maybe nature experts. I think they've dredged San Francisco Bay, but it's only 15 or 20ft deep. And my research on. Because they say the waters of Alcatraz, shark infected, infested. Which makes sense because you do.
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Buck Sexton
Outside of San Francisco Bay, there are large colonies of seals. And seals are the preferred food of these very large great white sharks. But that is just outside the mouth of the bay.
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Tristan Redman
But there are tons of the seals now that come in and rest at the piers in, you know, in the, in the warehouse or whatever that area is called.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, yeah.
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Tristan Redman
And it's very cool. Pier 42. I think that might be the wrong number.
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Buck Sexton
Tourists feed them and then they become kind of sassy. You ever seen these videos? They get. Seals get sassy.
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Tristan Redman
But what I was told was not.
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Buck Sexton
The military kind, by the way. I'm not trying to get my ass kicked here. I'm talking about the mammals that swim.
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Tristan Redman
There aren't that many great whites because it is actually not deep enough for the sharks to be enjoying it.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, that you've ever seen. You ever seen the shark attack videos and stuff? They, they go in pretty shallow water, my friend. I'm not trying to psych you out.
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Tristan Redman
Here, but I, I get it. Well, I'm telling you there. So the great white thing that you told me about the Catalina island swim has got me shook also, and I know a lot of people are listening. In la, they had a great white that would hang out all the time right off the Manhattan beach pier. And those of you who are in the South Bay, just, just south of. Of la, the Manhattan beach area is beautiful. Shellback, one of the great all time bars. Great beach bar, one of the great beach bars of all time, along with the Florabama, AJ's where I am now, but Spinnakers and Lavila, back in the day, but shellback right off, which is right off of the pier, they have a great white that always circles around out there. And I think the great white that always circles around out there, he basically just lives there. And everybody's like, hey, yeah, that's our great white shark. I think he attacked somebody recently because. And by recently, I mean the last couple of years they chum the waters to fish.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Tristan Redman
Off the Manhattan beach pier. And so then somebody got in the water and they got attacked because the guy. The sharks go crazy when they chum the waters and they got a. I think all this is true. You guys in Manhattan beach can let me know if I'm wrong, but I think there's a great white right off. And I was like, I. I'm fine. I don't need to really swing.
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Buck Sexton
I got to tell you, maybe my, my thinking on this is also affected by the fact that I have a friend down here in Florida, South Florida, who's an attorney, who is a, an avid scuba guy and like, didn't been doing Scuba for 40 years. Right. So his guys. Guys in his mid-50s. Mid late 50s. And. And he told me the story of witnessing. And he showed me on the International Shark attack file, he witnessed a fatal shark attack. Yeah.
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Tristan Redman
I would never get in the water again.
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Buck Sexton
And he, he was in the water, he saw it. And I'm gonna tell you, that stuck. We're at a. I was at a cocktail party.
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Tristan Redman
I. I was one of these things.
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Buck Sexton
Where I asked him, I said, you've been on all these dives.
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Tristan Redman
What the.
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Buck Sexton
What's the craziest thing you've ever seen? He's like, well, I don't talk about a lot, but he's like, I witnessed. It was a tiger shark. I witnessed a fatal tiger shark attack. And he went into the details. I'm not, I'm not gonna lie, man. I was, I was not going above my. My ankles at the beach here in Florida for a while. You know, it was, it was one of those things how we were going to talk about something else.
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Tristan Redman
What happened here?
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Buck Sexton
We just got totally diverted into shark attack world. Sunday hang. For those of you who don't know the Sunday hang on the podcast, you.
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Tristan Redman
Got to get lots of fun. We'll play the. I was going to mention, I mean, we played some of the Mom, Donnie. We played AOC on masculinity. Obama cut an ad for Spanberger will maybe play that ad for you. Just to kind of toss out. The idea is all not as well as people have been claiming in Virginia, because if you feel the need to bring in Barack Obama to do an ad two weeks before, two and a half weeks before election day, it kind of makes my eyebrows raise a bit. And I think, wait a minute, maybe this Spanberger J. Jones text story scandal is actually creating a bit of a mess for her. Even in a state that went to. Oh, that went to Kamala by five points. Maybe just possibly this is creating a bit of a stir. But in the meantime, Buck, I've got a winner for you. I want you to get your pen. I have won four of the six weeks that I have given you guys picks on prize picks. So right now, if you go to prize picks and use my name, clay, you get $50 when you play $5. And this is a super easy one. All of these guys are going to have more than 1/2 touchdown pass starting tonight with a game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Cincinnati Bengals. Joe Flacco, old man quarterback now for the Cincinnati Bengals. More than one half touchdown. Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguar quarterback. More than one half touchdown. Bryce Young, Carolina Panthers quarterback. More than one half touchdown to a tag of Iloa. Where you are down in Miami. Buck, the Dolphins quarterback, at least for now. More than one half of a touchdown. And Jackson Dart, New York City W o R listeners. He's made Giants fans actually excited for a change. More than one half touchdown. All of these guys to throw a touchdown. One has to be more than one half, but one touchdown pass or more. Flacco, Trevor Lawrence, Bryce Young to a Jackson dart. We're trying to go for five out of seven winners. If I'm right on this, it pays out at 3.2x. That is basically if you put in 5 bucks you get back 17 or 16, roughly triple your money. Plus on this one, fingers crossed. Price picks.com youm can now play in New York if you're listening on W O R. And you can play in California, Texas, Georgia, all over the nation. Florida, where both Buck and I are right now. You can get hooked up right now. $50 when you play $5 at pricepix.com or the prizepix app code Clay Want to be in the know when you're on the go the Team 47 podcast shop highlights from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Close it up. Shop today on Clay and Buck turned into like playing Buck Shark Week at the end. Sorry about that, but be fun. Sunday Hang content so check that out. Podcasts. We call it Transition Clay and Buck Podcast Network. Go subscribe to it has fabulous content. You can even count how many times Clay says fabulous on the Clay And Buck Podcast Network, I highly recommend you do. And you've got Carol Markowitz, Tudor Dixon, our friend Dave Rutherford, who we're going to have Dave on tomorrow, former Navy SEAL going to have him on tomorrow to talk to us about the possible escalation with Venezuela. Well, there's been escalation with blowing up their boats, but even further escalation possibility. We'll talk to him about that. But he does a great podcast, Dave Rutherford Show. You can check that out. And Ty in Montana writes in. He says he's a former Navy diver who says you can't do your job as a Navy diver if you're worried about sharks in San Francisco Bay. He says it's deeper than 20ft. I think it depends where you are. Otherwise they'd never get their big Navy ships out of port there. Yeah, they're dredged areas that are deeper, but there are the average. According to Groc Clay, the average depth of the San Francisco Bay is 15ft, which is. Strikes me as very shallow. Yes.
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Tristan Redman
I mean, that stunned me again. It makes me a little bit less afraid because great whites, as you might imagine, are not fond typically of shallower waters. And so, yeah, the average depth is. Is not actually that deep in the. In the San Francisco Bay tomorrow. By the way, we got a bunch for you. We'll hit you with some more of that Mom Donnie, including him trying to apologize to police. And we'll also hit you with the Obama ad in Virginia, Trafalgar, who has been very successful, sometimes not great in 22, but other times has been very successful, successful. Now, has they just released a poll Virginia within a point and a half, two points with Earl Sears making a run. Is that accurate? We don't know. But the Obama ad, Buck would suggest that maybe there's a bit of apprehension if they're calling in Obama to be doing ads for Spanberger.
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Buck Sexton
That's why we're going to follow this one closely. For all of you, thank you for being here with us. Like I said, go check out that podcast network and send us your thoughts on whether you would do a night swim from Catalina island without worrying about sharks.
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Asma Khalid
America is changing and so is the world.
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Tristan Redman
But what's happening in America isn't just the cause of global upheaval. It's also a symptom of disruption that's happening everywhere.
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Asma Khalid
I'm Asma Khalid in Washington, D.C. i'm.
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Tristan Redman
Tristan Redman in London, and this is the Global story.
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Asma Khalid
Every weekday, we'll bring you a story from this intersection where the world and America meet.
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Tristan Redman
Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
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Tristan Redman
In April, and now I have customers out the door. And this is Sarah. Hi. She started putting a portion of her marketing dollars in podcasting back in June.
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Asma Khalid
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Buck Sexton
That's why I'm working on a Saturday.
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Tristan Redman
Want to be like Jim and Sarah?
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Tristan Redman
When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why Benghazi?
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Buck Sexton
The truth became a web of lies.
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Tristan Redman
From Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.
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Asma Khalid
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Tristan Redman
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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