Hour 3 - Does Spencer Pratt Have a Shot?

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 3 - Does Spencer Pratt Have a Shot?
Date: May 15, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively third hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton focus on the high-stakes mayoral and gubernatorial races in California, dissecting Spencer Pratt’s unconventional campaign for L.A. mayor, the state’s contentious political climate, and broader issues like China’s influence in California and Hollywood’s culture wars. Special guest commentator Katie Zachariah brings on-the-ground perspective as a California native. There’s also a segment with Paul Renner, Navy vet and former Florida House Speaker, now running for governor. The conversation is punctuated with humor, viral campaign songs, Hollywood gossip, and listener feedback.

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Main Segments & Key Insights

1. LA Mayoral Race & Spencer Pratt’s Viral Campaign

[03:02–09:46]

• Opening Discussion:
  Clay, Buck, and guest Katie Zachariah discuss the state of the LA Mayor’s race, especially the unique campaign of Spencer Pratt, whose viral ads have been gaining attention.
• Spencer Pratt’s Campaign Song:
  • The show plays a satirical campaign song lampooning incumbent Karen Bass and highlighting LA’s struggles (“Everything is awful, everything is hell when you’re part of the scene. Karen Bass is awful...Dirty needles, human waste…” [03:50]).
  • Katie’s Reaction:
    “This song actually perfectly encapsulates what it is like right now to live in Los Angeles. This is the Summer 2026 song.” [04:53]
• Can Spencer Win?
  • Challenges Identified:
    • Karen Bass as establishment candidate with Democratic Party support.
    • The need to keep Bass under 50% on June 2nd to avoid her outright win and push a general election [06:26].
    • Skepticism over fair elections: “I’m always skeptical of anything…when you don’t have voter ID, especially in corrupt Los Angeles…” [07:40].
    • Ongoing attempts for non-citizens to vote in LA city elections.
  • Cultural Phenomenon?
    • Buck poses whether the online virality represents a real movement or outsider hype:
      “Are you picking up that there is something of a cultural phenomenon going here…or are we just getting too happy about this as outsiders?” [08:02]
    • Katie:
      “It’s a little bit of both…I supported Rick Caruso…He lost narrowly, but Karen Bass had Biden, Pelosi, Harris supporting her. My skepticism is: are the viral online voters going to turn out?” [08:43]

Memorable Quote

“Who is going to turn out to vote in this election?…He may get a lot of local grassroots support, but he also is up against this party that doesn’t care about cheating and…will leverage every single weapon that they can to come out and support Karen Bass.”
—Katie Zachariah [09:24]

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2. California Governor’s Race: Republican Odds & Democrat Dynamics

[09:46–12:55]

• Current Polls & Candidates:
  • Steve Hilton leads Republicans; Tom Steyer and Xavier Becerra jockey for Democrat spot.
  • Becerra Surging: “He’s running on an anti-Trump platform. Everything he said in the debate was about Trump…” [10:44]
• Jungle Primary Mechanics:
  • Top two advance, regardless of party. Potential for two Democrats or two Republicans in November.
• Barriers for GOP:
  • “Without voter ID in California…it’s very difficult for a Republican to win.”
    —Katie Zachariah [11:37]
• Becerra’s Weak Record:
  • “Becerra made this dramatic polling jump off of no track record and off of anti-Trump rhetoric.” [11:17]

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3. China’s Influence in California/US Politics

[12:06–15:44]

• Recent Scandal:
  • Arcadia mayor Eileen Wong resigned after pleading guilty as a foreign agent for China.
• Media Reaction:
  • NBC focuses on potential “anti-Asian discrimination” backlash rather than addressing the espionage issue.
• Katie’s Take:
  • “This is what the left always does. They try to make something racist so you don’t actually have to address the underlying issue.” [12:55]
  • She details the longstanding, subtle “soft takeover” of communities and school systems, referencing her three years living in China.
• Birthright Citizenship Concerns:
  • “Where is the allegiance of the people who are birthing children in the United States? Is it to a foreign country or is it to the United States?” [15:15]

Memorable Quote

“Nobody cares what race. This is Chinese Communist propaganda that a mayor…in the United States…was peddling to people…Instead of addressing that, we want to say anyone that questions this is racist.”
—Katie Zachariah [12:58]

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4. Hollywood Culture Wars & Movie Industry Decline

[15:44–18:13]

• Movie Casting Controversies:
  • Reaction to ‘Odyssey’ casting, including Ellen/Elliot Page as Achilles and Lupita Nyong’o as Helen of Troy.
  • DEI/“checking diversity boxes” is said to be impacting movie quality and LA’s economy.
• Katie:
  • “The entire industry is now collapsing in Hollywood because people aren’t going to see these types of movies anymore…” [16:37]
  • “If they want to actually bring business back, they’re going to have to start reading the room and what the American people want.” [17:37]

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5. AI, Automation, and Listener Calls

[23:26–24:47]

• Listener Feedback:
  • John (radiologist) worries: “My days are limited man, I’m thinking 10 to 15 years and AI is going to do most of our job.” [23:35]
  • Hosts discuss the future of AI replacing not just radiology, but many technical professions.
• Clay’s Experience:
  • Took a driverless Waymo ride—“I’m done with Uber now, at least in Miami Beach…” [24:12]
• Technology’s Impact:
  • Some listeners skeptical/critical, others see positives.

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6. Interview with Paul Renner: Running for Florida Governor

[25:45–31:46]

• Background:
  23-year Navy veteran, recent Speaker of the Florida House.
• Policy Priorities & Experience:
  • “I helped build the free state of Florida as the leader in the legislature…20 years in the military, two wars, former prosecutor, business owner…” [26:19]
• Iran/Foreign Policy Insight:
  • “Iran, for almost a half a century, has been hunting and killing Americans. The difference…is when Iran gets nukes, they will use them. There’s just no question about it.” [28:12]
• Gerrymandering/Redistricting:
  • “The difference between our maps and theirs is…ours are squares and rectangles. Theirs look like little snakes emanating from big metro areas.” [29:08]
• Gubernatorial Primary:
  • “Straw polls show us beating [Byron Donalds] 2 to 1…sending out a tweet is not leadership.” [30:25]
• Call to Action:
  • “Voterenner.com…We’d love you to volunteer…” [31:21]

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7. Listener Call-Ins, Pop Culture, and Friday Fun

[36:49–47:37]

• Gas Prices vs. Stock Market:
  • Listeners split on whether the show discusses gas prices too much or too little; how rising gas prices and inaccessible 401ks affect “regular Americans.” [37:19–38:54]
• Top Gun’s 40th Anniversary:
  • Listeners encouraged to see both films in theaters—“Turn and burn!” [39:12]
• Christopher Nolan, Movie Critiques & DEI:
  • Spirited debate about Nolan’s oeuvre, Oppenheimer, and opinions on Hollywood’s direction. [41:01]
  • “If a girl told me on a date that she was a really big Wes Anderson fan, it was all over…These movies. Pretentious.” —Clay [43:47]
• 2020s Fashion Trends:
  • The ugly resurrection of “jorts” (jean shorts): “This is meant to undermine western civilization and all that is beautiful…” —Clay [47:04]
  • Buck: “Both Elle and Glamour have described jorts as quote, a key 2026 look…” [46:40]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On LA’s Urban Decline:
  “More poop, more pee, more fires and more needles. Or they can choose a practical solutions mayor.” —Katie Zachariah [05:10]

• On Hollywood & DEI:
  “The entire industry is now collapsing in Hollywood because people aren’t going to see these types of movies anymore.” —Katie Zachariah [17:00]

• On Iranian Nukes:
  “When Iran gets nukes, they will use them. There’s just no question about it.” —Paul Renner [28:12]

• On Voter Engagement:
  “Are the people that are excited about the viral online videos going to turn out to vote?” —Katie Zachariah [09:20]

• On Fashion:
  “Jean shorts are among the ugliest garment…I think you should probably consider a Taliban-style burqa before you put knee-length jean shorts on.” —Clay Travis [46:31]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------| | 03:02 | LA Mayor's Race/Spencer Pratt Song | | 04:53 | Katie on LA decline | | 05:39 | Can Spencer win? | | 08:43 | Viral campaign or real movement? | | 09:46 | Governor’s race—Hilton/Becerra | | 12:06 | China’s influence scandal | | 15:44 | Hollywood/Movies/DEI drama | | 23:35 | Listener AI/radiology fears | | 26:05 | Paul Renner Interview Intro | | 28:12 | Renner on Iran | | 29:08 | Florida redistricting discussion | | 30:25 | GOP primary—leadership | | 36:49 | Listener gas prices feedback | | 39:12 | Top Gun Anniversary | | 41:01 | Nolan/Wes Anderson Hollywood talk | | 46:13 | The jorts debate |

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Recurring Themes & Tone

• Humor & Satire: From Spencer Pratt’s parody campaign ads to fashion and movie industry riffs, the tone remains entertaining and irreverent.
• Populist Skepticism: Mistrust in establishment politicians, mainstream media framing, and state/local election integrity is a consistent thread.
• Cultural Commentary: The decline of LA, the loss of “old” Hollywood, and the divisive impacts of DEI policies get a lot of airtime.
• Calls for Robust Engagement: Candidates and hosts urge genuine voter turnout and offer platforms to get involved.

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For listeners who want a blend of conservative analysis, campaign drama, California inside baseball, and tongue-in-cheek pop culture roasting, this episode is a must.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

Clay Ann Buck gets going right now and we're joined by commentator Katie Zachariah out of the great state of California. And Katie, appreciate you being here with us. And we have the a couple of things. We got the governor's race, which is interesting in and of itself. We've also though, got this mayor's race. Guys, do we have this some of the song that is part of the Spencer Pratt campaign? Can we I want everyone, I want you to listen closely to the lyrics here. The video is even better. Maybe we can put that up atclay and buck.com. this is a campaign commercial that's created a song that is catchy but also tells the tale. And Katie, I wanted to have you react to it, but let's let everyone hear this, a little snippet of this campaign song. Play it. Everything is awful.

[Buck Sexton]

Everything is hell when you're part of the scene. Karen Bass is awful.

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And burning down our street.

[Clay Travis]

Dirty needles, human waste.

[Buck Sexton]

We just named two awful things.

[Clay Travis]

A stolen car, a burned down house.

[Buck Sexton]

You know what's awful?

[Clay Travis]

Everything.

[Buck Sexton]

Mom's in shock. Hit the locks. A camp of addicts down the block.

[Katie Zachariah]

Lots of tents.

[Clay Travis]

A very big mess.

[Katie Zachariah]

Awful scenes are not the best.

[Buck Sexton]

Camps, traps and crap. Awful. Crack, smack and shacks. They're awful. Slums and scum and bums. That's awful. Everything you see or smell or touch is awful.

[Clay Travis]

So you guys get the idea. Karen Bass is awful. She's killing our dreams. Human poop. Buildings, burning needles, bums, slums. That's catchy stuff, Katie.

[Katie Zachariah]

Well, it's, it's exactly why I left Brentwood, which is adjacent to Santa Monica. We're in the park. There is fentanyl. There's needles on the streets. You can't delineate or differentiate between human feces and what could be dog poop in barrels of urine and water bottles all over the streets. I mean, this isn't exaggerating. This Song actually perfectly encapsulates what it is like right now to live in Los Angeles. This is the Summer 2026 song. And I hope that the people of Los Angeles city understand that the current trajectory they're on will continue to lead to more poop, more pee, more fires, and more needles. Or they can choose a practical solutions mayor that's actually going to try to fix some of these problems rather than continue them.

[Buck Sexton]

Katie Tuesday I was out with a bunch of people who live in the LA area for dinner, and all of the conversation as it was about the mayor's campaign was about how great the ads are that Spencer Pratt's team has been putting out, that AI assistance has helped him to put out. And a lot of people sitting around the table were saying, I'm not voting for Karen Bass. But they were skeptical that Spencer Pratt could win. Do you think he has a chance to win right now? Kali Poly Market Prediction markets have him at around 25%. We saw Karen Bass triumph over Rick Caruso, who was a very successful business person in that runoff election. She's done an awful job. But how do you see this playing out?

[Katie Zachariah]

It's a tough one. Karen Bass is the establishment Democrat, and let's not forget Nancy Pelosi runs this state still, even though she's, you know, barely walking and functional, she runs the state, and the establishment Democrats run the state. So you have Gavin Newsom, and we have, we have all the good ones, Adam Schiff and, and what happens with this is you have to clear on June 2, you have to clear the 50% threshold to make it. You. You win. So if Ramon drops out and a lot of the people who are supporting Ramon, which is, which is current city, Louisiana City Council, that surge will likely go to Karen Bass. So Spencer Pratt has to either keep her under 50% or, or get past her. Those are, those are his two options. Now, if Karen Bass doesn't make it to June 2nd at 50%, then it goes into the general election. And so it'll likely be Spencer Pratt and Karen Bass in the general, and. And that's where he stands to gain a lot of momentum from here until November. But as we look at, obviously, June 2, this is going to be a tricky one because Ramon likely will drop out. Now, can he win? We don't have voter id. So I'm always skeptical of anything, any national race or local race when you don't have voter id, especially in corrupt Los Angeles, because right now they're trying to make it local. City councilman is trying to pass legislation or an act that elite criminal, illegal aliens can participate in our city elections. So we have this constant back and forth right now.

[Clay Travis]

So the campaign is looking really cool. It's getting a lot of attention nationwide. And I just wonder in. I understand that there's like the teachers unions, the public sector unions, there's going to be the machinery of the Democrat party in LA that comes out against him. But in just in your circles, outside of the conservative. Tried and true. But are you picking up that there is something of a cultural phenomenon going here for Los Angelenos and that this is breaking through, or are we just getting too happy about this as outsiders looking in? Because he's going viral on social media, trashing how terrible Democrats are, and also with his really cool hummingbird videos, which I have to say are amazing.

[Katie Zachariah]

They are amazing. It's a little bit of both. And I hate to be a wet blanket on it, but I'm a native Californian. I lived here my whole life and it is very difficult. I very much supported Rick Caruso in his. In his bid for mayor. And it came in. It came in really, really close. And he had developed. He had a successful track record, is extremely successful commercial developer, and lost by a tiny margin. But who came in to support him at the end, literally, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris, they all came in to support, excuse me, Karen Bass, and it took her over the finish line. And so what I'm skeptical about is not can he go viral online? Are the people that are excited about the viral online videos going to turn out to vote? Who is going to turn out to vote in this election? And. And he may get a lot of kind of local grassroots support, but he also is up against this party that doesn't care about cheating and that also will leverage every single weapon that they can to come out and support Karen Bass to continue to stay in power in L. A.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, let's talk the governor's race, because there's a lot of drama surrounding the L. A Mayor's race. There's also a ton of drama surrounding the governor's race. Ballots are out. Correct me if I'm wrong, Katie. People have started to vote. Early voting underway. Steve Hilton is, by all the polling that I have seen and also the Kalshee Poly market numbers, the leading Republican candidate. There seems to be a lot of shifting going on in who the favored Democrat is. Tom Steyer had a little bit of a run. He's a billionaire. A lot of people thought that he was going to be the nominee. Now it seems like Becerra is surging as the top Democrat. How would you assess where we are headed? And for people who don't know the top two advance, it's a so called jungle primary where you could end up with two Democrats, you could end up with two Republicans, you could end up with one of each. Where are we headed here?

[Katie Zachariah]

Well, you're exactly right. Becerra is polling ahead. He was the former Attorney General of California and was an absolute disaster as Attorney general. And he was also head of Health and Human Services. Also nothing notable that he ever did under Joe Biden. And so he's running on an anti Trump platform. So he thinks he's not running against Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco. Everything he said in the governor's debate yesterday was basically President Trump is the reason we have high gas in California, that that is his platform as anti Trump. And the Democrat Party has really just fallen to the wayside in not even actually being able to contend on policy or debate who they're running against. But everything is so anti Trump. So if we have Becerra and then Steve Hilton, it's very, again, without voter ID in California on statewide elections, it's very difficult for a Republican to win. Now, Steve Hilton stands a large chance if you have a top two. If you have Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco now, that's two Republicans that could be in the top two. But Becerra somehow made this dramatic polling jump off of no track record and off of anti Trump rhetoric to kind of surge ahead. So I'm hoping that Steve Hilton can continue to at least stay in that top two. As we head towards the primary, we're

[Clay Travis]

speaking to our friend Katie Zachariah. And Katie, you know, the audience may not know this. I know this. You lived in China for a number of years, so you know quite a bit about China. And China was in the news not just for Trump's visit there, but also because a Southern California mayor resigned after pleading guilty to acting as a foreign agent for China. You see, NBC News writes that this has sparked backlash and reignited fears of anti Asian discrimination. So one, if you could speak to us about the Chinese intel penetration of California and the rest of the country. But also, you want to just have some fun with. NBC News is worried that while they're running spies here, there might be some anti Asian hate that comes up from it.

[Katie Zachariah]

This is what the left always does. They try to make something racist. So you don't actually have to address the underlying issue. Nobody cares what Race. This is a Chinese communist propaganda that a mayor of a United States city, Arcadia, was peddling to the people of not just Arcadia San Gabriel Valley, but the wider Chinese American community in the United States. And so instead of addressing that, we had a foreign agent as a mayor. And really getting to the heart of how did this woman live here, Eileen Wong? How did this woman live here for 30 years as a lawful permanent resident, have two sons, while she and her husband ran basically a subversive media operation for the People's Republic of China? No, no, no. We don't actually want to address how she stayed here or got elected or the fact that Rob Bonta, our Attorney General and a number of other Democrats have been seen either photographed with her or donating to her through ActBlue. We want to say that anyone that questions this is racist. And I'm just going to speak to this specifically. Having lived in China, to understand what's happening in not just California, but the greater United States, one only has to look up to Canada or over to Australia to see that the Chinese, it's not necessarily an invasion, but as they move in and take over large communities, it's kind of a soft takeover. And when you visit San Gabriel Valley, where Eileen Wong kind of over oversaw Arcadia as mayor, it has completely changed over the last 20 to 30 years from kind of a more industrial, even blue collar community to now really what feels like. And I say it, and I've gotten a lot of flack over it online, but I'm going to continue saying it. It feels like little bei I go there if I want to taste and eat local Chinese food from when I lived in China for three years. But this is something that's scary and something that Americans need to pay attention to because they're doing it slowly, they're doing it quietly, and they're taking over not just a city or a county, but educational systems. And with birthright citizenship, I'm going to end here. But with birthright citizenship, this is exactly what the dissent in the prevailing Wong Kim arc, which is what the Supreme Court's relying on right now to either override or, or, or discuss. This is exactly what they were talking about. Where is the, where is the allegiance of the people who are birthing children in the United States? Is it to a foreign country or is it to the United States? And I will just clearly say that when you have a foreign agent in China who's had, from China, who's had two children here, they're there. That person's allegiance is to China. And so we need to really look hard at this. And it is a much wider problem than just Southern California.

[Buck Sexton]

Katie, I don't know if you're planning on paying attention or watching the Odyssey, but Buck and I had a big talk. Christopher Nolan's film, you're out in la. Movies have been struggling in a big way in la. Production, moving, jobs, lost. A huge part of it, I really do believe, is the fact that they have these new DEI requirements. And there are reports that Ellen Slash Elliot Page is going to be playing Achilles the warrior. Um, and that Lupita Ngo, whose last name I probably mispronounced, is gonna be Helen of Troy. Do people talk about how movies have lost their way? You're in la, you're in California. It used to be a city and a state that people aspired to go visit, to live in. Feels like a lot of that cachet is lost. And to a large extent, it's because they're not focused on making great movies anymore. They're trying to check diversity boxes.

[Katie Zachariah]

Yeah, well, I mean, it's offensive. The View ran a whole panel on this, basically saying, we played it. We shouldn't be offended at this. So if, you know what, if Rosa Parks was played by Sandra Bullock or Nelson Mandela was played by Chris Hemsworth, this is the type of stuff that is that we're all supposed to accept the woke DEI when it's given to us, but the second we challenge it, we're again, same with NBC. It's somehow racist or we're not accepting and tolerant. And if you look at the numbers in la, we'll go right back to la. The exodus that LA has seen is not just because it's a terrible, miserable place to live, but a large part of the economy in Los Angeles has been built around making movies and making films. And the entire industry is now collapsing in Hollywood because people aren't going to see these types of movies anymore. Conversely, what happened with Top Maverick, I mean, that was a box office hit. Everybody loved it, it was patriotic, and it just. It was a uniting film for Americans. This will not be that. And it's really systemic. If they want to actually bring business back, they're going to have to start reading the Room and what the American people want. And nobody's going to go see this in the box office. We may all watch at the theaters, we may all watch it at home. So we can discuss it here and talk about how disastrous it was, but people aren't going to go see this film. And it speaks to the larger audience of their tone deaf and they need to start getting the picture or we're going to continue in the in the decline in la.

[Clay Travis]

Katie Zachariah everybody. Katie, we'll see you soon. Thanks so much.

[Katie Zachariah]

Thank you.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

in Clay Travis BUCK Sexton show let's get to some more of your talkbacks. It's the Friday edition of the program John in Louisville, Kentucky.

[Paul Renner]

See, I'm a radiologist.

[Clay Travis]

I actually listen to you guys every day while I'm reading scans. But my my days are limited, man. I'm thinking 10 to 15 years and

[Buck Sexton]

AI is going to do most of our job.

[Clay Travis]

You know, there might we need a small handful of radiologists to do the more complex cases, but AI is pretty much going to replace me.

[Buck Sexton]

And I think you're right. Everybody's good at annual scan.

[Clay Travis]

AI is going to read it instantaneously

[Buck Sexton]

and my job will most be gone. It's going to be fascinating to see how that plays out. My brother in law is a radiologist and I think super skilled radiologists are still going to have jobs. But a lot of early work is going to be done by AI.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're joined by Paul Renner. He is a 23 year Navy veteran. He focused on intelligence in his military career. Career. He is also a former speaker of the Florida House of Representatives and he is running for governor of my home state of Florida. Paul, welcome.

[Paul Renner]

Great to be with you guys.

[Clay Travis]

Let's just start with why you're running for governor. How's it going? Why do people need to know about what you would do differently? Where do you align with, say Desantis? What are your priorities? Go for it.

[Paul Renner]

Well, we align very well. And you know, I helped build the free State of Florida as the leader in the legislature. And I think people are looking for someone with a lot of leadership background. 20 years in the military, two wars, former prosecutor, business owner, partner in a business, and also people that show up and deliver results. And the governor described those two years as the most consequential of any two years in Florida history. And someone who's gone to the fight and not waited for the fight to come to them. Amendments 3 and 4 here in Florida, pot and abortion school board races. I was involved in all of those in ways that the other candidates in this race were not. And so I helped build the free state of Florida. I'm going to protect it and expand it.

[Buck Sexton]

Tell us you worked in the Navy and have been involved in helping to clear mines. We've been talking about that as it pertains to the Strait of Hormuz. Appreciate the time today. What was that experience like for you? Well, there are two parts of it.

[Paul Renner]

You know, we navigate through them daytime, nighttime and then during the day I led a small boat team of about five people and we would have explosive ordinance personnel to swim out, you know, about, you know, mead, 15ft away. They'd swim out, put explosives on, we'd pull them back in the boat. And if something happened too soon, it happened to us, not our ship. That was about a mile away and what had happened there is the Iraqis had set minefields, but they would break off in the course of the seas and the tides, and then they would just free float. And they were hitting American ships, our navy ships, as well as merchant vessels, killing people, hurting people, obviously doing a lot of damage. And so that was a unique experience, to be sure. A lot of that beginning of the leadership under pressure I referenced.

[Clay Travis]

So what do you think about the current situation with Iran? The Trump administration continuing to hold out, that there'll be no nuclear future for Iran. But also the strait needs to open. It has not been fully opened or is not functioning the way that it was before all this. What's your take on it?

[Paul Renner]

Well, I've obviously been been through the strait. I've seen the coast of Iran. Look, Iran, for almost a half a century has been hunting and killing Americans. The difference between Iran, China and Russia is when Iran gets nukes, they will use them. There's just no question about it. So the president is right to be laser focused on preventing that from ever happening. And so we'll see how it goes. I hope that his discussions in China will be helpful in that regard. I'd like to see that regime come down for sure and see something in its place. You know, back before the regime, it was a very pro western country. And we hope that they will, at least not being the kind of regime that we've had now that has been hunting Americans again for almost half a century.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, Florida well, you were the speaker of the house. The new map, 24. 4 is potentially the outcome. 24 Republican seats, 4 Democrat seats. Do you buy it? How would you assess the new map?

[Paul Renner]

Well, I think they're good maps. And the difference between our maps and theirs is there are squares and rectangles. Theirs look like little snakes emanating from big metro areas. And the Supreme Court's decision was a good one. As John Roberts once said, if you want to end racial discrimination, stop discriminating based on race. And that's what that decision basically does, is we're no longer going to use race as a determinant in how we draw these maps. We're not going to intentionally discriminate. The case says that as well. But it's really the Democrats that have been doing that, not the Republicans. And so I like the maps. We'll see how that turns out. I hope it's helpful. But here in the great state of Florida, we're gonna. We're gonna keep electing Republicans.

[Clay Travis]

We're talking to Paul Renner former speaker of the Florida House. He is running for governor and this primary is coming up to that end. Paul, Byron Donalds and all the polling is by far the front runner. We know that no votes have been cast and things can change. And you're here to make your case to the people of Florida as well as just why not all other 50 states, too? Because you're being heard everywhere. What's the difference between you and a future Byron Donaldson, if I may ask? How would you separate yourself from him as we look to who should be in charge of a state that I'm now very, very fond of?

[Paul Renner]

Well, I am, too. And if you look at the grassroots, it tells a whole different story. The straw polls that have been coming out show us beating him 2 to 1. And so the people that are actually focused on this race and they look at these issues of who's the leader, who has leadership experience, who's shown up on mission and delivered results. I've delivered more than anybody that's ever led the legislature here in Florida. And the governor said so. Who's got the vision? I've got the only plan to eliminate homestead property taxes and go after a bunch of other things. Health freedom, educational freedom, going after public corruption. And again, the last thing is who's showing up to the fight, who goes to the fight? School board races. I joined the governor, Amendment 3 and 4. I donated and raised over $2 million to stop Amendment 4 from passing. That's what leaders do. Others hoard their money. And sending out a tweet on social media is not leadership. And so people want somebody who's going to be a fighter, like this governor, like the president. And you're looking at them.

[Clay Travis]

Paul, where can people go if they want to get involved, if they want to help your campaign?

[Paul Renner]

Sure. Voterenter.com we would appreciate if you want to throw 10 or 20 bucks into the pot, we'd love that. We'd especially love you to volunteer for our campaign. We're getting tremendous support at the grassroots level. And you can read more about me there. Voterenner.com V O T E R E

[Clay Travis]

N E R Paul Renner in the governor's race here in Florida. Good luck to you, sir. Thanks for joining us.

[Paul Renner]

Thanks, guys. Great weekend to you.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We have had awesome weekends hanging out. We hope all of you are going to have awesome weekends. We've had an awesome week hanging out with all of you. This is the final segment of the week and we've got a bunch of you who want to talk back. I'll begin with simultaneous talkbacks which accuse us of doing the exact opposite. Back to back. This is first Rick from Medina, Ohio, who is upset.

[Clay Travis]

D. I believe you guys are falling into the messaging trap of the Democrats with these gas prices.

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Gases were way higher under Obama for

[Clay Travis]

three years, higher under Biden for months.

[Buck Sexton]

It's been 10 weeks and the reason

[Clay Travis]

why is it's trying to stop a nuclear war. Please start talking about the other great economic benefits we are experiencing right now and get off the gas prices. All right.

[Buck Sexton]

Should be talking about gas prices according to Rick, who says we're falling into

[Clay Travis]

the Democrat taps traps gas prices under Obama, thinking that that is going to be something that you can deploy here is that's a zero. That's a zero.

[Buck Sexton]

Help.

[Clay Travis]

No, no one's going to be like, well, they were higher under Obama. No one cares.

[Buck Sexton]

Not a single person.

[Clay Travis]

That's part one.

[Buck Sexton]

So then meanwhile, Alex in Charleston says the gas price thing is a big deal. We got to fix it.

[Clay Travis]

Cut E. We hear the same mantra day after day. Gas prices will go down when this trade opens and the stock market's setting records. Well, here's a problem. The normal everyday American under the age of 59 and a half can't access their 401k and therefore they're struggling. That's the bottom line. That doesn't matter to them.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay? So simultaneously, I just love this, just, just so, you know, simultaneously we should stop talking about gas prices because we are falling into a trap. And also we should not talk about the stock market going up and we should talk about gas prices more because we aren't paying enough attention to average everyday Americans.

[Clay Travis]

I just, all I know is it's your fault. That's all that I know.

[Buck Sexton]

So whichever way we're doing, it's Buck's fault. All right, here's a positive. Now those are the negatives. We're going into the weekend. Let's have some fun. We did just have the 40th anniversary of top Gun and Doug from Milwaukee's got a pitch Cut, folks.

[Clay Travis]

Yesterday, 40th anniversary of Top Gun this week only. May 13th through May 20th. Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick in theaters. Go see it turn and burn.

[Buck Sexton]

I didn't know this, Buck. That is awesome. I may. I may have to get out to the movie theaters. I went out to the movie theaters twice this week, which is rare for me. I saw the Nate Bargazzi breadwinner movie, which is going to be out family film. And then I went to go see. Made Buck nervous. Went to go see the Michael Jackson movie biopic. It's really good. Really good.

[Clay Travis]

I think. I think that our next bet. Forget about steak. I think it has to be video posted publicly of either you or me moonwalking at our best, depending on who's the winner, you know.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I'll study for that. Used to do TikTok dances in your apartment by yourself during COVID You've got an advantage on me. I don't. The last time if. If I haven't had my hand on Laura's hip, I don't think I've danced in a very long time. And she's a good dancer, so that's why I just put my hand on her hip and hopefully go the direction she's going. Bob says Christopher Nolan. He loves him. We were talking about the Odyssey movie and the controversy over DEI rules in Hollywood. By the way, we have reached out to Harmeet Dylan, and I'd like to have her on the show. I believe she's from California originally, if I'm not mistaken. But I don't understand how Oscar film DEI rules would not potentially run afoul of federal guidelines as it pertains to hiring and firing. Because as you pointed out what I've been saying.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, this makes sense.

[Buck Sexton]

Directly impacts who gets hired for jobs. It seems like that would be illegal under federal law. Here is Bob on G podcast listener now.

[Clay Travis]

Hang on, Buck. I really like Christopher Nolan as a director. He's probably one of the best directors of our generation. I enjoyed the first two Dark Knight films. I think the Dark Knight Rises was a little too brutal, as you were trying to point out. But let's not forget Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer was an amazing movie and actually dealt with a real historical subject. I haven't seen Dunkirk yet, but I want to. Okay, Oppenheimer sucked. All right, I'm with you on the. I haven't seen you on the Batman movie movies. I'm with you on the Batman. The Batman movies are very entertaining, very watchable. There's some holes in them. And casting Maggie Gyllenhaal in the second movie. I mean I'm not, I don't want to be mean, but why cast the ugliest actress in Hollywood? Like you know what I'm saying? You're supposed to be like a romantic lead here. Well, why do that? It's not, it's not nice to her either because people look at her and they go ooh, this is not good. So I'm just laughing.

[Buck Sexton]

By the way, poor Maggie Gill and all happens to hit the wrong channel on a radio show. She's listening in LA and Buck just called her the ugliest actress in Hollywood. Hollywood.

[Clay Travis]

I mean it might be a little harsh but you know, not. She's not. It's not good. It was a bad.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean still has, still has a pulse so far as I know.

[Clay Travis]

Buck, she's definitely better looking than Lena Dunham to be fair. But you look at the, the Nolan movies. Tenet. Did anyone see Tenet? I heard Tenant was trash.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I saw a Tenet I believe because this is where I'm going to get Bucky. You're going to, you're going to completely record scratch, change your opinion on, on Christopher Nolan just like this. I believe he was the most anti movie theaters being shut for Covid and insisted that Tenet be held. He wouldn't allow it to go out to streaming and he insisted that Tenet be placed in theaters. The reason I went to go see it was there were virtually no movies anywhere. I think Tenet was the first movie to come out like in a post Covid era.

[Clay Travis]

Tenet is about a sci fi thriller about a secret agent preventing a time bending apocalypse in the trash. I don't have to see it in the trash.

[Buck Sexton]

You're looking at. You don't give Christopher Nolan credit for saying I want theaters open. I want my movie to be in theaters.

[Clay Travis]

See, I see this completely differently from you. I don't think he's a Covid hero. I think he was just trying to look for any excuse to hold the movie because it was such trash and he was just playing for time. I think he was just, he just didn't want people to realize.

[Buck Sexton]

Somebody do research on this. I remember going to see Tenet in like May or June of 2020 when there were no other movies that were released and, and there was nobody else in the movie theater. It was me and Laura and, and I went specifically because I was so excited to be able to go to see a new movie in the movie theater.

[Clay Travis]

I mean I'll tell you, like he's not as bad as. I mean, I basically had a rule when I was a single guy, which is that if a girl told me on a date that she was a really big Wes Anderson fan, was like, it's all over. And she might as well have just announced her pronouns. I just, you know, Royal Tannenbaums. These movies. Pretentious. Very pretentious.

[Buck Sexton]

Very, very boring. Bad movies. Let me hit you with the ultimate record scratch moment here. What if Christopher Nolan intentionally gave these people jobs? Laura asked me this question because he wanted to bring attention to the absurd DEI rules. And that's why he put Elliot. Whatever Page, Ellen Page in his Achilles.

[Clay Travis]

No way. Because he'll never live down. Odysseus is a. Time is a. Is a millennium millennia old. Like, like foundational story of Western civilization. If this movie stinks, it will. It will completely derail a lot of people's opinions of Christopher Nolan overall. It's not. He wouldn't sacrifice this one.

[Buck Sexton]

Okay, you made the same argument that I made to her. But she was saying, you know what? If this was an interesting.

[Clay Travis]

Both of us are. If we're ganging up on her on this one. I think she's got a tough. I think counselor has a tough pitch before the court here, before the jury. Let's go. Other movies. Okay, well, we'll move on from this. I could just sit here and trash the movies all day. Inception garbage. The Prestige.

[Buck Sexton]

Let me. Let me give this something fun to close with because some of these other talkbacks are serious. And I'm like, ah, I don't want to walk.

[Clay Travis]

Walk.

[Buck Sexton]

Buck. I went. I said I went to go see the Michael Jackson movie. I sent a tweet right before I walked in. Cause there were a bunch of kids in the movie theater. Jorts. That is long jean shorts on men. This is not Daisy Dukes, not like short jean shorts on girls, which have kind of remained constant popularity for generations now. Long male jean shorts. This is like 1995 era. They are back. Teenage boys everywhere are wearing these, including my own sons, which is what I took note of. And let me hit you with this. I tweeted about it yesterday. It turned into a trending topic on Twitter. And if you are out there and you're saying, Clay, you have no idea what you are talking about. You're a total imbecile on fashion. All of that could very well be true. They trended. And. And I want to make sure that I get this right because.

[Clay Travis]

Ok, you. You can find the data on this one. I'm just going to tell you jorts are hideous on men and women. It's just the truth. I'm just here to tell you the truth. Hideous. Hideous.

[Buck Sexton]

Even Daisy Dukes like no shorts.

[Clay Travis]

Those aren't jorts. Those aren't jorts.

[Buck Sexton]

But. But a lot of people get confused, which is why I pulled them out.

[Clay Travis]

Jean shorts are among the ugliest garment. I think you should probably consider a Taliban style burqa before you put knee length jean shorts on.

[Buck Sexton]

They're a bad look. I told my son I had them here. Buck is. I'm not crazy on this. Both Elle and Glamour have described jorts as quote, a key 2026 look says they are inspired by the weight Y2K trend of fashion, which is everything around then is coming back and stuff.

[Clay Travis]

This, this is meant, this is meant to undermine western civilization and all that is beautiful. It's like the fat positivity movement and having all the, having all the fat tranny, you know, cover models and stuff. They're trying to destroy our morale with pretending that women should be wearing jean shorts. Don't fall for it, ladies. Don't fall for Laura.

[Buck Sexton]

To tie in with Buck's argument, I shared a photo. She said, that looks like I'm wearing jorts. People have to see my shoes. Also, Florida Gator fans wear jorts. Great line. Speaking truth and having fun.

[Clay Travis]

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