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Buck Sexton
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J.R. Martinez
The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, the unexpected, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
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Leon Neyfakh
This medal is for the men who went down that day on Medal of.
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J.R. Martinez
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Jack Armstrong
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Buck Sexton
He's Joe Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
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Buck Sexton
How about something about a comedic tone?
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Jack Armstrong
We have a win. Listen to Armstrong. You get it on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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Leon Neyfakh
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Buck Sexton
Please do.
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Clay Travis
To hear the whole story. Listen to fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Hour three of Clay and Buck gets going right now. And as you know, Clay out on vacation for the rest of the week. So is he out next week too, guys? Clay? Yeah, he's out next week, too, so just gonna be yours. True. It's a good thing. I'm hydrating. Gonna be yours truly for a while. Out this week. Next week. I will be going overseas in June for a week. So, you know, we'll be trading off here and there for some stuff he's gonna get. Clay's gonna be like, Friday, June 6th. There you go. And, yeah, so we. We got a lot of time together team, which is good. And I'm glad that I am. I'm glad that I'm on the mend. I will have to tell you this, that if some of you follow me at X, you saw this, but Ginger, who I. I did not. I was not a. Sometimes my wife is listening to the show, so I always have to remember that there's like a few million of you. And then my wife, too. So I have to be, you know, on like, really good behavior when I talk about dogs, because I grew up. I grew up. I was kind of a bulldog guy. I'm just gonna tell you the truth. I was a bulldog guy. I love English bulldog, French bulldog, any squash. You know, the squishy faced. Not. Not really so much into the chow chows. I'm sorry. I know some people love the chat. They can be a little. Little bit of biters. I love all dogs, though, as you know, beautiful dogs. I love all dogs. And I wasn't really a doodle guy. And my wife goes, no, no, no. You know, her family, they got. It's like a doodle sanctuary. They got doodles. Oodles of doodles. In my. For my in laws, I got doodles everywhere. And so I said, all right, fine. So, honey, you know, happy wife, happy life. You know, we've been married a year. You want. Let. Let's get. Let's get exactly the dog you want. I love that silly little fluffy dog so much. I don't want to tell you.
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Leon Neyfakh
All right.
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Buck Sexton
She's great. Australian labradoodle. And when I was sick, she would come. She never does this. She would come and she would lie in the doorway of the. Of the guest bedroom that we have, which is going to eventually be the baby's room. But I would lie in the door, she would lie in the doorway, Just kind of a little vigil, just keeping me company. And. Yeah, it's just amazing. And people say, oh, do you really think dogs know when you're sick? Yeah, they absolutely know. Dogs know a lot more about what's going on with us. Just because they can't communicate in English or in any language for that matter. Down here in Miami, it might be Spanish.
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Tommy Tuberville
Whatever.
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Buck Sexton
Doesn't matter in whatever language that they would be communicating with us. They have. They have incredible. Not just, I think, kind of intuition about their owners because spent so much time and are so focused on you. They can. Their sense of smell is. It is truly superhuman in the sense that it is thousands of times more powerful than what we have. Dogs have been trained to be able to smell cancer dogs. It's, it's. I think they're now training dogs to smell fentanyl at the border, which is also very useful. But anyway, this little dog, she was so great, and it was really helpful because also, dogs can't get norovirus. So I could be like, come here. You know, you can be close. It's okay. Daddy's gonna be all right. He thinks if he could chug some of this Pedialyte. Anyway, the dogs are great. And those of you who are dog owners, you know, and when you're really sick, man, and the dog crawls up on the bed and you have, like, everyone has to stay away from you, but the dog is there for you. And I know for some of you, it's your cats, maybe. For some of you, it's your. Your donkeys. I'm seeing miniature donkeys more and more as pets. I do love that idea. I don't think it would go over well with my condo association, but I do think that donkeys would be a lot of fun. Donkeys are very, very attuned to humans, Very affectionate. You know, I've always found horses. I know some of you are going to be big horse people. I've always found horses, like, a little. Sometimes can feel a little aloof, maybe. I just don't know horses very well. Donkeys, they come over, they want to sit in your lap. I mean, it's just. It's a totally different deal. All right, big, beautiful. Bill, let's get into some of this. First hour. We talked about how Elon is a little frustrated with where it's going with the Doge team. And look, I think that no matter what, the Doge team has done a huge service. Just in telling us all about the kinds of wasteful spending and the amount of. Of just nonsense that's going on with. With these payments. But we still come back to, like, a lot of things. Will Congress do anything about it? We're seeing where the limits of executive power are. I think, in some ways, the artificial limits, because a lot of what's being done to reign Trump in is just. It's purely partizan in nature. It's not, oh, this is really about where executive power constitutionally stops and starts. There are judges who are just anti Trump loons, and they want to stop whatever it is that Trump is doing. Right. We've seen that. That's obvious. And they're going to have to keep working through the courts on that. Yeah, Trump, the tyrant, he's always like, yeah, okay, I'll see you in court. You know, we'll make the best arguments and we'll see how this goes. It's not what tyrants do, as you know and I know. But anyway, I think that Trump is in a position right now where he has the most political capital he has ever had and the most ability to change things. But Congress is a big part of the equation. And so the limits of what can be accomplished here when it comes to this bill, the limits are in many ways, I think, just self enforced by Congress. And it does get me to this place of, you know, eventually somebody's gonna, and I was, I'm not saying, oh, Trump's, we should get rid of the filibuster now because our guy's in charge. Because I know, you know, this has been holding out for a while and I think eventually it is going to go because eventually people will tire of it. It might take a crisis, maybe even the kind of fiscal crisis that we're heading toward by not actually dealing with the debt. Because we're not dealing with the debt, we're just not. I wish I could tell you we are. I think a lot of what's going to happen in this economy in this bill is going to be, is going to be great and I'm very optimistic, but I'm very optimistic about the next year, the next four years. Am I optimistic about where this, what this looks like in 10 years, 20 years? And that's really the question. And because of the structure and the nature of our political cycles, it's very hard to get anything done based on, no matter how much of a certainty it is, anything done based on how much of a certainty catastrophe is ten years from now. I tell you in American politics that we are heading toward catastrophe in 10 years. Nobody cares. I tell you it's happening in 10 days, maybe people pay attention. 10 months, probably 10 years. Nope, can't do it. Can't do. Oh, things will change. We'll figure it out. And you know, we've had Ron Johnson on the show from the Senate to talk about this and he's a big Trump supporter, as you know, supports the agenda and he still has his concerns. Now it's make, it's got to go through the Senate side of things because, you know, the House is what, what is the House on a summer vacation? The House. And like public school teachers, they get a lot of time off. Ron Johnson, this is cut to here he is saying from the Senate side of things, he's got concerns. Play it. So you will vote to raise the debt ceiling if in fact you get these spending cuts that you're talking about?
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Tommy Tuberville
Absolutely. All I've asked for is a commitment to pre pandemic level spending and a process to achieve and maintain it. We've never had a process to control spending. Don't have a balanced budget requirement. The appropriation committees didn't work. Budget act didn't work. Simpson Bowles didn't work. The only thing I can see is a very business person's approach, line by line exposed the grotesque waste and fraud and abuse. This would be a five minute conversation in business. So guys, I told you you could increase your budget based on inflation and the number of customers we serve you 10% above that, cut it. We need President Trump to lead on this. He needs to be fully committed to not funding the deep state. At present Biden's levels.
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Buck Sexton
He seems very set on this. Senator Rand Paul has been with us on this too. And he's also very supportive overall of a lot of, you know, supportive of the tax cut, supportive of many of the, of the primary components of this bill. And you know, it comes down to, and Trump said this during the live press conference today. Just politics, man. To get these Republicans to vote for it, to get, to get all the good things, we've got to get some things in there that we don't like as much. That's really what everyone's just saying right now. I mean, that's where it is. There's, I don't think there's really much of a fight over what the good things are on the bill or what the long term projections on the bill may be. Here's Stephen Miller explaining on a process level some of what's going on here. He put this out on X. Doge cuts are to discretionary spending, he writes, like the federal bureaucracy. Under the Senate budget rules, you cannot cut discretionary spending, only mandatory spending in a reconciliation bill. So doge cuts would have to be done through what is known as a rescission package or an appropriations package bill. The big beautiful bill is not an annual budget bill and does not fund the Department of Government. It does not finance our agencies or federal programs. Instead, it includes the single largest welfare reform in American history, along with the largest tax cut and reform in American history, the most aggressive energy exploration in American history, and the strongest border bill in American history, all while reducing the deficit. Now, I know Stephen Miller well enough to know that everything that he's written here is true. I mean, I think you can take this to the bank. The challenge here in all of this is that it's all true, but there's also the reality of, well, even if this is all accurate, reducing a deficit when you have a 37 or $36 trillion debt and you still have a trillion plus deficit yearly is not enough. If I told you, you know, if it was one of those shows you call in, you're like, hey, you know, my wife and I have $5,000 in the bank and we want to go on a $50,000 vacation and I'm afraid I might lose my job next week. We have no savings and we, we have a huge mortgage on the house. It's like, no, don't do that. It's a bad, that's a bad idea. I can do this, too. Don't do that. That's a bad idea. If you are $36 trillion as a nation in debt and you are looking at spending a trillion dollars plus a year beyond what you are currently beyond the current debt that you have, that's what the deficit is, what the shortfall is annually. The debt is the whole thing put together that we, and like I've said before, the Tea Party was, the Tea Party was doing their thing at like 10 trillion or something. Wasn't that long ago, 10 trillion. And that was, oh, my gosh, and now it's 35 trillion. I mean, you know, the math. Here is the math. The math is a problem. So if we can't get Trump to, to do the kinds of things that might seem painful and with that maybe transformative, I don't know who would be in a. I don't know who's going to be in a better position. Certainly from the Republican side of things. Democrats will spend us into oblivion. I have no doubt. There is no question why my Democrats, they will spend us into oblivion. And they figure, well, as long as then the government's more in charge because the currency is debased and they're going to print money and the government's going to be even more involved in, you know, they're going to, they're going to ruin private industry, they're going to crowd out private expenditures. You're going to. All this stuff. They, they are fine with it. The Democrats aren't going to tackle this at all. We know that it's up to the Republicans to be the adults in the room and start to say, you know, enough is enough. But, you know, it's like telling somebody that it's time to go on a diet. And let me tell you, I know about this. First month of the diet's not fun. First month of the diet, you're like, you know what tastes really good right now? Cheesecake. Cheesecake is good. You know what doesn't taste as good when you're used to eating a lot of cheesecake? Lean ground turkey, 99% no fat. You know, 99% lean or 100% lean doesn't taste as good. But you know what? It's important. It's important if you want to lead a. Lead a long, healthy life to get to the place you need to be metabolically. And same thing with the country, same thing with our debt. It is all about whether we're willing to make the changes and tackle the issues now before they are crises. And increasingly, what I see, and I've said it to you before, I don't think we are. And I wish I could come up with, you know, come up with a happy way of, of putting this, but we're. We're. And I say we. It's not even about Trump. It's more than about Trump and this administration. We, the American people, don't want to do it. Or at least a majority of us who vote don't want to do it. No interest in it. Can't touch entitlements. Can't change. Automatic spending. Think about that. Automatic spending. Can't touch automatic spending. Well, if it's automatic, guess what? This is where it's going to go. It's going to get worse. Now we can, we can talk about some of the great things. Like I said, I think the next year, I think the economy is going to boom. It's going to be fantastic. But now is our chance to deal with things in a way that'll put us on better footing for 10 years from now. And for our kids and our grandkids, and for those of you who haven't great, great grandkids, now is the time to make those decisions. Are we doing that? I think that's a tougher case to make, but I'm open to it. Let me know. 800-282-2882. Light up the lines. Are you happy with the big, beautiful bill? Where are you on this one? I want to hear from you. All right. Having a will is a good thing, and so is establishing a trust. Depending on where you are in life and those you look after, you could find one story after another of people who pass away without a will. And it can get messy and expensive. Cause stress in families. In many states, up to half an estate can be taken by the government in probate. 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J.R. Martinez
Is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
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Leon Neyfakh
This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it.
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J.R. Martinez
I'm J.R. martinez. I'm a U.S. army veteran myself and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and I Heart podcast from Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal. To Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Jack Armstrong
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Buck Sexton
He's Joe Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy.
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Buck Sexton
Modern world about something about a comedic tone.
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Jack Armstrong
We have a winner.
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Buck Sexton
Yes.
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Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong and Yeti on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Jack Armstrong
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Caller
No.
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Leon Neyfakh
No one was let go.
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Clay Travis
It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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Leon Neyfakh
And I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second, I am going to ask.
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Clay Travis
I'm Leon Nayfak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast Fiasco Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Leon Neyfakh
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Buck Sexton
Please do.
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Clay Travis
To hear the whole story. Listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
We got Tim in California wants to weigh in on the big beautiful bill. What's going on, Tim?
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Caller
Howdy, howdy.
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Buck Sexton
You called us.
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Caller
I just want. Yeah, I think Trump's get letting himself get led around again by his nose. He should have never went for a big beautiful bill. He should have took all these little bills. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security and made the Democrats vote up and down on those bills so people could see where they stand. If he'd got the win and he'd had three wins under his belt. But oh, and if they wouldn't, if the Democrats voted it down Then they'd had three losses. But for some reason he allowed himself to get suckered into this big, beautiful bill deal and it's just gonna blow up in our face.
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Buck Sexton
Thanks for calling in, Tim. I think Trump knows what's going on here. I don't think he's being suckered in my sense is that Trump feels that the only way he can get the really good things in there. This is the art of the possible, which I know for a lot of people you hear that in politics and it's kind of induces a bit of a cringe, but the art of the possible because there are some Republican members who just wouldn't. I'm talking about the House and the Senate. They just won't do it. They won't do it unless you have some of the stuff in there. That's what Trump was saying today in the press conference. So people can take that or leave it. But I do think it's quite clear that the, we have not seen the cuts that we want to see yet to, even on the, the Doge side of things. I mean, that's admitted, right? Okay, so if we need a rescissions package, where's the rescissions package now? Maybe it's going to show up at some time sometime soon. But yeah, we've got, let me see, you got a, the five week recess starts in August. There's a week long recess in, you know, Congress. They got a lot of days, a lot of days off. It's not a bad gig. Israel relies on the support and generosity of friends around the world, particularly here in the US and here on this program, we partner with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews or ifcj. They're on the ground in Israel every day blessing lives in real tangible ways. They're feeding elderly Holocaust survivors who have no one else. They're building bomb shelters to protect school children from rocket attacks. When you give a gift of 45 to IFCJ to help provide food, shelter and more for the those in desperate need, you're putting faith into action right where it is most needed. The people of Israel greatly appreciate the support from their friends and allies around the world, including so many of you who listen to this show. Please consider making a donation today to the IFCJ for their incredible work on the front lines to feed elderly Holocaust survivors to help those on the front lines to build bomb shelters. Call 888-488 IFCJ. That's 888488 IFCJ or visit ifcj.org Senator Tuberville joins us now from the great state of Alabama. Also, Coach Tuberville and Senator, appreciate you making the time for us. Clay is out. So you've got a sports SEC football novice with you on the radio today, but we can talk some politics if you're cool.
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Leon Neyfakh
I'm good with anything especially, especially the sports part in the sec. I'm pretty well versed in that, as you well know.
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Buck Sexton
But, well, you know, somehow, you know, Clay's not here to explain themself on this one. But of the two college football games that I have ever gone to see, both two of them, both had Alabama in them. I am just saying that that is the thing that happened. So you have to take that up. You have to take that up with Clay. So let's dive into. First of all, I know you're running for governor, which is very exciting. I want to talk to you about that. But tell me this, the Senate package or the Senate part of the big beautiful bill? What are your feelings on this? Cuz there are people who are, it's one thing when the people who don't like Trump don't like something Trump does. They don't like anything he does. Right as he said he could cure cancer, then all of a sudden they'd be pro cancer. But there are people who are very pro Trump, including on the Senate side, who are saying, you know what this is, this is something that should be, let's say, tinkered with a little bit on the cutting side. What do you say?
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Leon Neyfakh
Yeah, 100%. It's going to be some adjustments. It never was going to happen to where the House did their version. They sent it over and we were just going to rubber stamp it. That's not going to happen. First of all, we have what we call the bird rule and has go the parliamentarian, anything that comes into this package and some of it probably won't pass through the Byrd rule. And if any changes, if there's one change at all, has to go back to the House, there are several things that other people are very concerned about. One that I'm concerned about is we did not do away with to me, enough of the Green New Deal giveaways through the Inflation Reduction Act. Why in the world would we continue to to give money away when we shouldn't? Again, that has they'll probably have to be adjusted in some form or fashion.
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Buck Sexton
What, what is in there on that, on that specific. Because I've seen the people say the green New Deal giveaway. Is it just a lot of money that the Democrats set up in the COVID era that goes to wind farms or. Well, what, what, what is the, the.
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Leon Neyfakh
Giveaway part of it exactly? Solar farms subsidies, rebates. Same thing with wind farms. Rebates. Also with EV cars, rebates and you know, any other car. We all, and I don't have an electric car. I pay full price. And as so do many, many, many other people in this country, we're continuing to push the EV car and I'm fine with EV car, but at the end of the day, we're going to have to get on the same page with this along with the, the gas burning cars. And if you want, whatever, whichever one, you won't find. But the government shouldn't have to pay any of that. So there should be an adjustment to that. There'll probably be some more adjustments, probably Medicaid, Medicare. I'm not for any cuts, but I am for reform. Is there enough reform in there? Are the work requirements as they've got it structured as we speak, for Medicaid work requirements, which I think everybody's for everybody that's Republican. The problem is the work requirements don't start for about three or four years. What are we waiting for? I mean, we got to get it done and get it over with and get people back to work and get people in a situation where we can cut back on the money that's spent, the people that shouldn't be getting on Medicaid and Medicare. So at the end of the day, we'll look at it starting on Monday. We'll go, go through it line by line, try to make it the best we possibly can. We want President Trump to have his bill, have it done soon. But that's a problem when we put everything in one bill. But if we'd have done two separate bills, it would have been a lot different. We could have done the tax version and got it out of the way already. And then we could have done everything else at this point and would have been less of a problem. But when you put it all together, we all knew it was going to be this situation. But eventually it will get done.
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Buck Sexton
It will get done. That's, that's certainly good news. Why do you think they didn't do the two bills? Is this just all because of the super narrow margin on the House side in particular, that there was no leeway to change some of the structure here? Because I can understand, given all the political capital that Trump has and that there's a, a Democrat opposition that feels like it's Barely even relevant in the, in the conversation these days. I know they still have a lot of votes. I know there are a lot of Democrats out there, but they're not finding effective ways to oppose the Trump agenda. I feel like there's a bit of concern that this is the best moment and this moment isn't being used to its fullest to put us on sound fiscal footing.
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Leon Neyfakh
Yeah. First of all, the Democrats are trying to block everything that we're doing, trying to slow anything they possibly can down and tort in terms of nominations or any kind of bill like this. They're trying to throw a kink into the wheel, try to put a nail in the tire and slow us all down. But end of the day, if you look at it, the people that actually ones are supposed to be throwing up the budget is the House. The House has a very slim margin. They're the one that marketed this to President Trump. This is how we want to do it. This is the process in which we can get it through the House and then the Senate has a few more votes to where they can work with. I can understand that. But by doing that, this thing is maybe the biggest bill in the history of bills. And so it's got more things in there, more moving parts and so it just takes longer. But again, we're going to get this done for the President. He needs it, he deserves it, he's worked at it. The House may have to take it back and readjust some things after we finish it with it and the Byrd rule, the parliamentarian, so it doesn't cut enough money. At the end of the day, President Trump knows that 1.5 trillion, which is only 150 billion a year for 10 years. This is a 10 year bill. It's got a. He's even said this. We've got to cut back on spending and we got to grow the country. He's going to grow the country by tariffing people all over the world to get manufacturing back. I get a visit or two a week in my office in D.C. about manufacturing companies wanting to come back to the state of Alabama, which is great. But at the end of the day, we have to cut back on this enormous spending, $2 trillion more a year than what the American taxpayers send in. We can't physically put two and two together and make any of this work unless we cut back a little bit more of what the Republicans have in there. Now, in terms of the bill coming.
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Buck Sexton
From the House, speaking to Senator Tommy Tuberville and Senator, you announced yesterday on my friend Will Cain show that you are running for governor in the great state of Alabama? What, what's leading to that, that transition in your political future? And also, let's get into some of what I think of Alabama. Like, you don't have the problems in Alabama that they do in places like California when it comes to Democrats being in charge. Right. So I'd be very curious to know what the agenda is that you would want to pursue as the governor.
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Leon Neyfakh
Yeah. Alabama is a huge Donald Trump state. And I ran, I was going to run for governor of seven, eight, nine years ago when President Trump first got in. But we had a Governor Ivey had just gone in. I said, yeah, I'm not going to do that. And President Trump encouraged me to run for the Senate and I did. And we won pretty handily on the backs of President Trump and we've been up and it's probably good. I've learned a lot. I met a lot of people. It's all about contacts. It's like coaching. Same thing. Coaching is all about contacts and knowing people. Same thing in politics. Then President Trump in his agenda, he is pushing and changing things in D.C. and moving more money and power back to the states. Now I'll be with President Trump another year and a half and after that point, hopefully I can win this governorship where I can move into the governor's role here in the state of Alabama and take that power and the money that he's going to send back to the states to help make Alabama a better place to live, better place to work and a better place to raise a family. So I think it's all working out perfectly time wise. But again, we've got a lot of work to do and I'll spend 90% of my time in D.C. working towards President Trump's agenda for the next year and a half. After that point, we will really know the structure of what he's going to be able to get done with this Congress. And hopefully we can maintain the House and the Senate along with the White House in the next Congress. So I'm looking forward to it. It'll be a challenge. I'll have to worry. I don't mind campaigning, I really like it. But we need to continue the same values in education and immigration and law abiding citizens as what President Trump is trying to push all over the country.
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Buck Sexton
Senator Tuberville, the team has pointed out that it is only right, it is only fair that I tell Clay this time if I join him on the road during football season that I go see the illustrious Auburn Tigers is what is the best. Should I go see Auburn against Alabama? That would mean I'm 3 for 3 at Alabama games. But we know the Auburn Tigers will of course emerge. Emerge victorious in that. Is that the best game? Because I could pretty much go to any game.
- [34:36]
Leon Neyfakh
Well, that's one of the best games in the country all year long. I don't care whether it's college or high school or NFL. Is the, is the Iron bowl as much going on around the stadium and before the game than what happens during the game. And there's so much riding on it for in state rival. But you know, we have LSU and other teams that come to Auburn, but you can't miss any SEC game across the south is always great to watch. I've been involved in many of them when I was at Ole Miss and same at Auburn. I've been to a lot of Alabama games in the last few years. I went with President Trump a couple of times. They're all fun. And that's the reason that I'm really fighting hard to try to solve this NIL problem. Because the thing that makes college football great, especially in the sec, is the fan base and the enthusiasm. And we do not want to lose that when it comes to college sports. And NIL has a opportunity to upset that apple cart if we don't get some answers to it.
- [35:38]
Buck Sexton
How do you fix that? The name and likeness issue for Kyle, how do you fix that?
- [35:43]
Leon Neyfakh
Well, money. Money is the cat's out of the bag. And I don't mind kids making money, but we gotta. We gotta have some structure. There's no structure to contracts. There's no structure. You cannot allow men or women to transfer every year for $25,100,000 just because of money. It's about education. And again, if you come to a place and you come for money, fine. But you've got to work towards an education. And you can't every year shop yourself around for more money. That's not what this should be all about. And again, players should make money. There should be revenue sharing. NCAA dropped the ball on that. But at the end of the day, we have got to put some slit of validity to this because there's going to be donor fatigue coming up because we can't. Some of these schools are spending 20, 30, $40 million a year on their teams and that's not going to last. And again, as I said earlier, the number one thing that makes college sports, especially football in the south, popular is a fan base. And the fans aren't going to put up with it. You're going to start losing season ticket sales and every year you go to a game, now you don't know who's on the team. There's no loyalty.
- [36:53]
Buck Sexton
Senator Tommerville, appreciate you being with us, sir.
- [36:55]
Leon Neyfakh
All right, but thank you. Have a great day.
- [36:57]
Buck Sexton
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J.R. Martinez
The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
- [38:30]
Leon Neyfakh
This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it.
- [38:37]
J.R. Martinez
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- [39:23]
Jack Armstrong
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
- [39:35]
Buck Sexton
He's Joe Getty.
- [39:35]
Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy.
- [39:39]
Buck Sexton
Modern world about something about a comedic tone.
- [39:45]
Jack Armstrong
We have a winner.
- [39:46]
Buck Sexton
Yes.
- [39:47]
Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong, you geti on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [39:53]
Clay Travis
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
- [40:02]
Jack Armstrong
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
- [40:05]
Caller
No.
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Leon Neyfakh
No one was let go.
- [40:07]
Clay Travis
It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
- [40:10]
Leon Neyfakh
And I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second, I'm going to ask.
- [40:15]
Clay Travis
I'm Leon Naifak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
- [40:33]
Leon Neyfakh
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
- [40:39]
Buck Sexton
Please do.
- [40:45]
Clay Travis
To hear the whole story. Listen to Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [40:53]
Buck Sexton
Closing up shop on Clay and Buck today. And just a reminder, Clay's gonna be out rested this week and then next week until Friday, so. So it's going to be kind of a buckathon here on Clay and Buck for basically the next eight days or next week roughly. So we're going to hang out, we're going to do some great shows, want to get a lot of calls, a lot of talk backs from all of you. The interaction, the contributions you all make to this program every day are invaluable. Make it more fun for me, make it more fun for Clay and. Yeah, let's do that. Let's get some of your calls now. Lines lit. Paul in West Virginia. What's going on, Paul?
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Caller
Well, hey, first of all, I'm glad you're getting better and thank you guys are doing an awesome job. Doing an awesome job on the big, beautiful bill. The senator mentioned it twice, that it's a parliamentarian thing and, and people don't. Their eyes glaze over when you start talking about that stuff. Everything everybody wants. They can't have to include Elon Musk. He even made that mistake. They can't put that stuff in this bill because if they do, they'll need to get 60 votes in the Senate instead of just 50.
- [42:04]
Buck Sexton
Yeah, no, this is what Trump is saying is like, this is the, this is the best we could do with the Congress we have. You know, I remember. Thank you for calling in, Paul. Remember that old, you know, I like this quote, the old Rumsfeld, you go to war with the army you have. And people got, tried to make that into a big scandal. First of all, he was talking, you know, whatever you think about Rumsfeld, he was saying a whole bunch of things. And then that was one line in a much bigger context. If we're trying to, you know, trying to get this upgraded and move on that and do these other things. But it is true. You go to war with the army you have. I mean, that is right. There's no other way to go to war. Like there's no other army. So I think you go to pass a law with the Congress, you have. You try to get a bill passed with the Congress, you have. And if they're not willing to budge on these issues, I mean, then you just get into, do you want to have everything just not get done? Because, you know, you're letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Ben. In Eliza, Ohio. Is that how you say it? Ben?
- [43:05]
Caller
Elida.
- [43:07]
Buck Sexton
Elida. All right.
- [43:10]
Leon Neyfakh
Yeah.
- [43:10]
Caller
Mega Ditto's longtime listener, very long time listener to the EIB network.
- [43:15]
Buck Sexton
Oh, man. Thank you.
- [43:18]
Caller
Beginning of the last hour here, you were, you were talking about whether people understand or believe that animals or dogs know that you're sick. And a quick story. Back in 2018, prior to my wife's diagnosis with breast cancer, we had a terrier. He's a part Fox terrier, part Jack Russell terrier, that every time he'd get near, he would work his way up to her left side of her chest. Every single time. It actually got to the point it was annoying her. But a few short weeks later, she found a lump, was diagnosed with breast cancer. And she's doing wonderful. She went through all the treatments. She's doing great past the five years, healthy as can be, sassy as ever. It's the way we want her. But to go back to the thought about our animals, we need to pay attention to them. They know these things and they're telling us we could have gotten a pretty good jump start on, on treatment. Maybe the treatments wouldn't have had to been so bad if we would have paid attention to that dog that was telling us something was wrong.
- [44:18]
Buck Sexton
Well, Ben, I'm, I'm glad you're glad to hear your wife is, is doing. Doing really well. And, and also that you really appreciate your. Your pooch, your dog. They're. They're incredible. I think they're like furry little angels. I think dogs are the best. And you know, when you're sick, man, they really, they can really come through for you. You know, when you're sick and your dog is being your buddy and when you really need it, when you're really sick, too. I mean, I've been for a couple of days. I really appreciated the dog. So. Yeah. Wow. Tomorrow's Thursday. We're gonna have an awesome show, a big, beautiful show here on the Clay and Buck network. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be amazing. Some people are gonna say the best shows ever are always Clay and Buck. Made in America means something to us. When you invest 700 billion annually in American companies and the 13 million workers and families they support, you're investing in.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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- [45:36]
J.R. Martinez
The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, the unexpected, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
- [45:50]
Leon Neyfakh
This medal is for the men who went down that day on Medal of.
- [45:54]
J.R. Martinez
Honor Stories of courage. You'll hear about these heroes and what their stories tell us about the nature of bravery. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
- [46:06]
Jack Armstrong
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
- [46:18]
Buck Sexton
He's Joe Getty.
- [46:19]
Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy.
- [46:23]
Buck Sexton
Modern world about something, about a comedic tone.
- [46:28]
Jack Armstrong
We have a winner.
- [46:29]
Buck Sexton
Yes.
- [46:30]
Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong. You get it on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [46:36]
Clay Travis
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
- [46:49]
Leon Neyfakh
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
- [46:54]
Buck Sexton
Please do.
- [46:58]
Clay Travis
To hear the whole story, listen to Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [47:06]
Leon Neyfakh
This is an iHeart podcast.