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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. It is the Martin Luther King Day edition of the program. I know a lot of you are off today. We are here working as we work on President's Day and a lot of other holidays. So we hope all of you are having a fantastic Monday wherever you may be across the country. MLK Day January 19th as we have been discussing quite a lot. A protest inside of a Minneapolis church has appeared to cross the line for many people out there, including this just came down. Even Minnesota Governor Tim Walls is speaking out against the protest that Don Lemon covered that led to BLM activists showing up inside of a church service and protesting to shut it down. This from Bill Malugian at Fox News. The Minnesota Governor Tim Walls office has issued this statement. The governor has repeatedly and unequivocally urged protesters to do so peacefully. While people have a right to speak out, he in no way supports interrupting a place of worship. Uh, Buck, that is pretty significant on MLK Day because they have tried to argue. The BLM protesters did. And I believe we have an audio here that we have not played yet of Don Lemon explaining that this is akin to civil rights movement protest. Cut 4.
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Don Lemon
This is the beginning of what's going to happen here. When you violate people's due process, when you pull people off the street and you start dragging them and hurting them and. And not abiding by the Constitution. When you start doing all of that, people get upset and angry. And if you remember what the civil rights movement was about, the civil rights movement was about these very kind protest. There's nothing in the Constitution that tells you what time you can protest.
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Clay Travis
You can protest at any time.
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Don Lemon
That's the whole point of it, is to disrupt, to make uncomfortable. And that's what they're doing. And that's what I believe when I say everyone has to be willing to sacrifice something. You have to make people uncomfortable in these times.
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Clay Travis
Okay, here is Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dillon, who we have reached out to invite her on the program as well. By the way, Trisha McLaughlin scheduled now VDHS to join us on the Thursday program. To those asking where the arrests are, she is speaking out, in particular to the videos that came out of these Minneapolis church protests. Minnesota state prosecutors could have made arrests yesterday. The DOJ must first go before a federal judge to obtain an arrest warrant. Make no mistake, Pam Bondi and the Justice Department will pursue federal charges in this case. That is Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dillon specifically speaking out about these particular incidents. So, Buck, Don Lemon is now backtracking significantly and saying, oh, I had no idea what was going on. Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has said he does not support these protests. You are seeing a pretty significant backtrack going on in that political space.
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Buck Sexton
Well, it's not playing well. And this is what we've said all along about this. The optics of it are not what the Democrats would like it to be. And that's true in a whole range of things. And this is a tough thing to talk about in such a way, but it's the truth. It's how they view things. It was a white woman killed, not a black woman or a black man. Therefore, the left does not get as agitated about it. In the case of Renee Goode, they're trying, but their hearts aren't in it the same way. There's video showing what happened, and there were injuries to the officer hit with the car. So again, for anyone who is fact based or who cares about what really happened, not just the emotion, the emotional rush, they get the adrenaline of pretending they're like the new freedom fighters. This is a tough case to get mobilized and excited about and then to do something like this. I mean, to go into a church. No serious person thinks that they went into a church because they're trying to win people over to their cause. They went into this church because they wanted to vent their spleen, to show their rage at people who are not out on the streets agitating against ICE and doing all of this. And they wanted to show that they believe. These anti ICE protesters believe that their cause is sacred. That is certainly more sacred than a Baptist worship service for God. And that's why they made this choice. That's why they did it. Don Lemon's points. I mean, he is so stupid. I have to. Honestly, he's even dumber than I thought he was. And when I used to see him at CNN and I did his show a number of times at cnn, I thought he was a moron. But he. I don't think he could pass, like, a sixth grade civics test. He has no idea. The First Amendment doesn't actually. Time and place restrictions are very much a part of First Amendment jurisprudence. You know, you're not allowed to break into someone's home and say, I have a First Amendment right to shout at you in your sleep. Like, Don Lemon may want to do that over this issue, but he does not actually have a constitutional, lawful, or ethical right to do so. Clay, they are turning people against them with these videos. No well adjusted, reasonable person sees the videos of them in church. She sees the way that that maniac was speaking to the pastor and goes, you know what? I'm on the right team here. So unless you're already one of these Bolsheviks, you're seeing this for what it is. Which is why Tim Wallace and these others. And I go, oh, well, that's. You know, we're not really about that.
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Clay Travis
This is a sign of how much it's blown up in a negative way in their face, that Tim Walls has felt compelled, according to Bill Milluchin of Fox News, to come out and say that he does not support this version of a protest, which to me is about as indicative of everything going poorly as it could be. And there are reports that Don Lemon is going to be facing charges as well relating to this protest. Now, as we talked about in. In the first hour, the challenge here is, I'm sure Don Lemon's defense in the Daily Mail reached out to Don Lemon. His husband. Don Lemon's husband answered and said no comment. The Daily Mail has reached out for comment about Don Lemon potentially facing charges. Now, a couple of things here. One, Don Lemon is going to argue, I was a journalist here just covering this protest. I'm not responsible for what they did. I think there's a lot of evidence to support that. He did know what was going to happen. And I think that's where you move from observer to participant. We talked about this in the first hour. And if as a media person, you know that someone is going to break the law, to what extent can you follow them and just report on their breaking the law? That becomes challenging. Right? That defense. Second part of this I will say, though, best thing that can probably happen to Don Lemon's career, given that he is mostly irrelevant right now. You know, you and I know this. We were talking about it off air. He might welcome charges here because it makes him a cause celeb for the left all of a sudden to be a journalist who is facing charges here. He probably would welcome it for his career because it makes him relevant.
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Buck Sexton
Do you remember what a babyish imbecile he was when Elon, when he took over X Twitter then, was trying to say, hey, I want voices from both sides.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
And Don Lemon. It was Tucker and Don Lemon were really his two original, you know, from the right, from the left. And Don Lemon in no way deserved that kind of opportunity. And then he proceeded to sit down with Elon when Elon's the owner of the platform and antagonize and attack Elon Musk in an interview because he thinks that, like, that's journalism, right? He's truly an idiot. But I just want to remind everybody this was. He was the number one rated host at CNN for years by the actual numbers, but by his. By the demographic of those who watch or, you know, within the demo, as they say, meaning the people that are like whatever, 25 to 55 or something, whatever the.
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Clay Travis
What, 25 to 54 and. Or 35 to 65 sometimes with the television news.
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Buck Sexton
So he was. His show was the main show at cnn and they consider themselves a news network. They paid this guy, Jeff Zucker, paid this guy millions of dollars a year, and he is an absolute jackass. So that I understand we're kind of past the Zucker era of cnn. And CNN now is roundly considered a joke by anybody who has, you know, know, an IQ over 30. But there used to be a place that we were supposed to take, to take seriously, I might add. Speaking of places we shouldn't take seriously, Clay, did you see this exchange between Kristi Noem and Margaret Brennan?
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Clay Travis
Oh, yeah, there was some venom.
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Buck Sexton
Oh. Oh, boy. This is cut 13. This is about the ICE involved, you know, the ICE agent who shot Renee Goode. And you can tell Noem is not having it with Brennan's activism, journalism play.
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Margaret Brennan
Thirteen, let me talk to you about the officer, Jonathan Ross. He was struck, he was hospitalized. Don't say his name. I mean, for heaven's sakes, we shouldn't have people continue to dox law enforcement when they have an 80% his percent increase in death threats against them. I know, but that doesn't mean it should continue to be said. His life. He got attacked with a car that was trying to take his life. And then people have attacked him and his family and they are in jeopardy. And we have law enforcement officer officers every day who are getting death threats and getting attacked at their hotels. Can you tell me about his status right now? And. Well, of course, no one can condone against anyone, but here. CBS reported that he did have internal bleeding in the torso, but he was released that same day. So is he back at work? Did you give him three days of suspicion, three days of medical records notice?
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Buck Sexton
Margaret Brennan, by the way, she goes, we don't. We don't condone violence against anyone. She won't even say we don't condone violence against federal officers. Try and make it as broad as possible. It's like everyone's guilty, so no one's guilty. Everyone knows exactly what she's doing there, and she knows what she's doing. Well, disgraceful.
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Clay Travis
I mentioned earlier that over the weekend there was a front page article about the ICE agent giving his entire employment history, his entire life history. They even said, buck, where he lives, what his family situation is, was very detailed. And again, even in that situation, they're trying to make his name as widely known as possible. I would imagine the challenges are now here, as you can well imagine going out and being an agent for this guy. I mean, he would almost have to be wearing a full, you know, sort of ski parka on his face to avoid being targeted directly with threats of violence on his job or actual violence. Given the fact that now his name is out there and the degree to which we have seen that these anti ICE protesters are willing to engage in acts as ridiculous as going into church services and interrupting them, do you think that they would allow this guy to remotely do his job on the streets of Minneapolis?
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Buck Sexton
I also think that there, this, this was getting a lot of views over the weekend and it should. There are some protesters who are heckling these ICE agents and being really aggressive and nasty with them. And you'll notice also protesters that pretend to be so for the people, they become very classist when they speak to law enforcement. They don't like, like, oh, did you even go to college? And you know, how much money do you make? And you'll hear this kind of stuff thrown at people because they don't really. The protesters don't have any ethics. They don't stand for anything. Here is this ICE agent who is pointing out that these protesters in this particular instance are protecting a convicted pedophile. Play 12. We're here to arrest a child sex offender and you guys are out here honking.
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Clay Travis
Oh no, we're pressed.
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Buck Sexton
That vehicle right there is honking and impeding our investigations while we're trying to arrest a child sex offender. That's who you guys are protecting. Insane. No, Clay, you know, imagine that this, this individual. I mean, we don't, we don't know the specifics of the, of the case other than we know that there are a lot of convicted serious sex criminals who are also illegal aliens that ICE has picked up that has been published. Let's say this individual, you know, sexually assaulted, you know, a 12 or 13 year old girl. They know, Ice knows that he's supposed to not even be in this country and they prevent this apprehension from happening. How would they feel, how would these protesters feel about the next 12 or 13 year old girl who is raped by this illegal? Because that's the kind of stuff that's actually at issue here. Those are the risks that they're willing to have Americans run so that they can feel good about themselves.
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Clay Travis
That video which we just played, when you watch it, it appears that that's a Hispanic ICE agent likely telling white liberal women who are screaming at him about the job that he's doing and trying to prevent him from being able to do that job. And hey, we're trying to get super bad guys off the street to protect young people. I think it represents the profound disconnect between the people yelling at ICE agents for the jobs that they're doing and the ICE agents trying to make us all safer. Again, I think the evocative response here is this is very similar to what we saw happen with BLM and their attempt, which worked in 2020, is to keep police officers from doing their jobs. That led to mass murder increase. Now they want ICE to not do their jobs. If they win, the actual impact is going to be profoundly disruptive in a negative way for everybody all over the country, particularly the youngest and most vulnerable among us.
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Buck Sexton
Whatever happened to elections have consequences. Whatever happened to solve it at the ballot box. You notice the Democrats who were saying that even during the Biden administration, of course that phrase comes from Obama, the single most insightful political thing he's ever said. Now all of a sudden it's no obstruct now, it's we get our way even when we lose. Well, that's not the system that we have. And I think everybody should be reminded of that. Trump ran on doing what he is doing and he won. And now they think this minority of lunatics thinks they get to stop that because they say so. All right, look, buying gold isn't a get rich quick tactic. It's a diversification. It's a long ball strategy. The facts are plain for all to see. Gold is up over 60% in the last year. It's up over 700% in the last 20 years. Both facts are part of the reason I'm buying more gold from Birch Gold Group. It's part of my balance strategy to grow wealth within my savings and retirement accounts. You know there are forces pushing the dollar lower and gold higher. And you can list the countries that are trying to make the dollar weaker. That's going to continue. So is central bank overspending, money printing, including unfortunately our own. So buy gold. It makes sense for the long term until February 1st if you're a first time gold buyer. Birch Gold Group is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases. To claim eligibility and start the process, just text my name. Buck do 9898 98. Birch Gold could help you roll an existing IRA or 401K into an IRA in gold and you're still eligible for a rebate of up to $10,000. Make right now your first time to buy gold and take advantage of a rebate of up to $10,000 when you buy by February 1st. Text My Name Buck to 989898 Claim your eligibility today. Text Buck to 989898.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. You are missing gold on the video Here, if you are not a YouTube subscriber, we have Speed hanging out with uncle Clay right now on the video. Speed at the mic. He's grabbing the mic. He wants to take the mic from Clay. Apparently he's having a good time over here. But you gotta subscribe to the YouTube channel to see these beautiful moments. YouTube.com clayandbuck and you can have, you'll have Speed show up. I call him my little fox cub because he has a little redhead and, and Clay is, is hanging out with him now. He keeps squatting the mic down.
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Clay Travis
He is a chunk. You are a chunker. He's ready to play D tackle tonight in the, in the national title game.
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Buck Sexton
I keep telling everybody you can't build thighs like he's got in the squat rack. You got to be born with them. You got to be born with those chunky thighs.
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Clay Travis
He's got a lot of power. We were out with your friend Whitney who. Oh, here we go. Oh, am I too loud by the ears? Oh, no. Everything was going so well.
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Buck Sexton
We have babies on this show but.
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Clay Travis
Sometimes I think my voice is too loud. I think if my boo is terrified, it's okay, buddy.
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Buck Sexton
He was like, Clay, I didn't get that much mic time. Why are you, why are you talking?
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Clay Travis
He was all good till I started talking behind his ear and then he was like, oh my goodness.
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Buck Sexton
Where were we D tackles. Yes. He's a, he's a, he's a robust little guy.
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Clay Travis
He's. Well, we'll talk with Byron Donalds here in a moment when he comes back at the top of the next hour. He had some kids who played football and Byron played football. He's maybe probably going to be the next governor of the the state of Florida. So he's going to join us. And by the way, there will be pictures up@clayandbuck.com he is an incredible chunker and he is a cutie pie.
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Buck Sexton
You got to check out the YouTube though. That's what I'm saying. YouTube, Clay and Buck. It's fun stuff happening here, so you will enjoy that. We'll have Congressman Byron Donalds and many think some people are saying the next governor of the great state of Florida that I happen to live in. Through the tunnel, the Towers foundation, you can honor the courage and sacrifices of our nation's greatest heroes. First responder and military heroes like United States Army Lieutenant colonel Christy Rabitz. Christy served our country with unwavering dedication for 20 years as a combat nurse, she provided life saving care to wounded soldiers including at Walter Reed National Military Medical center during the height of the global war, war on terrorism. Christie was also a devoted wife, mother and mentor whose life was rooted in compassion and integrity. After six years of courageously battling service related cancer, Christie's life was tragically cut short. She leaves behind her husband Stephen and their two children. Tunnel the towers honored Christie's service and sacrifice by paying off the mortgage on her family's home. Help more families like Christie's. Join us in donating $11 a month to taunt the towers@t2t.org that's t the number 2t.org I donate $11 every month. So does Clay. Please join us in this t2t.org welcome.
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Clay Travis
Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. The next governor of Florida according to all the prediction markets by a massive amount. Byron Donald joins us now. He has raised $45 million. We will get into the Florida gubernatorial campaign shortly. But first, diehard Florida State Seminole fan Byron Donalds. Tonight the Miami Hurricanes are playing against Indiana. Is there a twinge of you notwithstanding the fact that you will soon potentially be representing the entire state of Florida that wants to root for Indiana because you are a Florida State Seminole and Miami is a hated rival.
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Byron Donalds
Younger age. I'm much more mature these days. Maybe a twins. No, I'm pulling for the Kings. You know, I think that, listen, you look at not just what they did this year as a team, they got phenomenal talent both sides of the ball. Everybody knows that this run they've been on through the playoff has really been exceptional. I think this is what college football fans have been wanting to the 12 team playoff for some time.
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Buck Sexton
Congressman Donalds, I'm sorry, I gotta, I gotta jump in. Can we get you to call back in and reconnect because I'm, I'm, we can't really hear you very well. The connection is a little iffy and everyone's gonna want to hear this especially before the big game and especially before you might be my governor. So I say this with respect. Can you call us back in one second, sir? Mr. Mr. Likely Future Governor, give us a call right back. All right, like guys, let's get him squared away. I could you. I couldn't really hear.
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Clay Travis
No, it was breaking up a little bit. And I do think it's, it's kind of interesting that we're in this world where everybody thought that cell phones would be flawless by 2026. Now you can do almost everything on your phone consistently except sometimes talk in a way that people can hear. You wouldn't you have thought back in like 1998, you would have thought by 2026, everything's always going to be crystal clear.
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Buck Sexton
I don't want to feel like I'm like sitting here shining his throne or something, but, you know, like, can Elon just fix this too? You know, he's fixing the Internet. Can he just fix cell phone communication as well? Those two things, I think hand in hand. I think we will be in a place where once you have pretty much universal WI FI capability.
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Clay Travis
Let's see if we got it now. All right, I'll let you try and claim how as a Florida State fan, you're rooting for Miami.
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Buck Sexton
Go back to the beginning, if you would. Congressman, want to hear what you were saying? Go ahead.
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Byron Donalds
Look, I think the number one Florida first, you know, got to root for the Canes. They are, they are our rivals. They beat us this year. This team is really good. Defense, offense, talent, both sides of the ball. They've had a great run through the playoffs. You got to give them credit for that. I think that's what fans were looking for the 12 team playoff. So I'm gonna be over at the game tonight and let the best team win.
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Clay Travis
What time are you gonna get to the game, by the way? Because we're talking about this. I'm taking Buck. Buck has never been to a national title game. President and Secretary of State Marco Rubio are going to be there. It's going to be quite the scene. What do you expect it to be like? Do you know if President Trump's going to be out on the field for the national anthem? What do you expect the scene to with Indiana and Miami here in town for the big game kicking off?
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Byron Donalds
Well, I'm gonna get there a little early. Don't know what the President's full schedule is, but I do expect him to be there. I think everybody does. I think the atmosphere is going to be crazy. I know Indiana, Hoosier fans stadium in Atlanta. So they're traveling, obviously, ticket prices are through the roof. So we'll see what this thing is about. Like actually expect, I think it's going to be somewhat of a close game. I think Miami, some of the mistakes that they made against Ole Miss, I think they're going to button that up because with a team as well, coaches, Indiana, you just can't make mistakes on this type of stage.
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Buck Sexton
Congressman, you have raised a whole lot of money for the state of Florida governor's race and congrats on that so far. And I just, you know, I'm New to this Florida thing, I married a Floridian. I'm born and raised Floridian, so I feel like I get a little street cred on that one.
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
But I'm a New York. I'm one of these recent arrivals. But this place is doing so well. And Governor DeSantis has done such an amazing job as governor. I think Attorney General Uthmeyer is doing a phenomenal job for him on the law enforcement side. And there's so much that's going well here. Just tell me you're gonna protect our great Florida and do more great things. Right? Explain to me what your plan would be if you take over for Governor DeSantis.
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Byron Donalds
Well, the thing is, all the great work that Governor DeSantis has done over his eight years, you keep that in. You know, that stuff you don't really touch. You're really responsible for keeping it going. First and foremost, law and order. You know, our sheriffs in our state are tremendous. You continue to stand behind them, give them all the resources and assistance that they need to do their job. Florida State, we're all people that call Florida home. I think if you're looking for the future, it's about what's going to be the next wave of our economy. How are you going to bring more jobs to our state? So young people in our colleges right now or young people who choose to move to Florida, they have an opportunity and a shot at the American dream here in Florida. And we have to do a lot more when it comes to affordability. The governor wants to repeal homestead property taxes. I support him in that endeavor to get that done. Also continuing to push down the cost of insurance in our state. And we have to find a way to build more homes for people, to get the price of homes down for people, whether they're going to be renting for a little while, like I did when I first moved to Florida. I rented for a little while, and then we buy the first home we want, people have, raise their families, build a career, all in the state of Florida. We're doing great. We're the best state, but we got to keep going.
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Clay Travis
All right, we're talking to Byron Donalds. One more question for you. You've got so many people moving. We talked earlier in the program about all the Californians that are now moving to Florida. You're seeing a lot of New Yorkers continue move. That's because of all the momentum that's going on. How do you keep bringing in more people, and what is the impact potentially of that?
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Byron Donalds
Well, this Is where, you know, building new homes in various parts. More companies in our state so people have jobs is going to be important. Like we have a, we have a gym in our state called Cape Canaveral, the Kennedy Space Center. That's where all of commercial space is really happening in the United States. So I envision we're going to have some more tech firms, some space firms. They're going to be moving to Florida. Manufacturing in different parts of Florida. That helps people be able to put food on the table but it's also about making sure that county government and state government are being efficient with everybody's time. Look, right now in our state to put a shovel on the ground takes two years. That two years isn't free. That's dead time. And that dead time still costs money. So we have to be efficient with people's time to bend cost curve of government to be able to get out of the way of people. But in terms of California and New York, look, we are very clear about what the political culture is here in Florida. It is conservative policy rooted in common sense, sound economics, law and order and basically just leaving people alone. We don't do the crazy stuff that they do in Illinois and New York, our common sense state. We are a red state. We're a very conservative political state and we're going to stay that way. And I think that people who decide to choose Florida, they know what they're choosing because we're not going to be shy about what our principles are and how we go. We're not going to be.
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Buck Sexton
Congressman Donalds, appreciate you very much. Good luck. We'll hopefully see at the game. And I think we might need to work on the telecom infrastructure here in Florida too. But that's a conversation for another time. Thank you, sir.
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Byron Donalds
All right, take it easy.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We got BB podcast listener John weighing in from Worcester, Massachusetts. Let's hear from John. I think you guys get the wrong take on Josh Shapiro. You always say, Carmela didn't pick him. She picked Tim Waltz and said, I think. I think it was Josh Shapiro that.
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Clay Travis
Said no to Kamala.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, he's a smart guy, and he's not stupid enough to hook his.
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Clay Travis
Wagon to that loser.
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Buck Sexton
So I. I think you guys are off the market. Well, I would say that. I think I said that on the show, that that's a possibility in my mind, or that at least he wasn't totally in on it because he probably was smart enough to recognize that Kamala's shot was a very long one. That said, when someone says, you're going to be the vice president, you're just going to become the vice presidential nominee on a ticket, I think if that's offered to you as a politician, that's a tough thing to turn down.
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Clay Travis
I don't think he turned it down. I think he said some things that indicated that he wasn't interested in being a shrinking violet. And I actually think Kamala turned him down because of the Jewish aspect. But also, Buck, I think you're right. I think Josh Shapiro is a lot smarter than Kamala Harris. And one of the reasons we ended up with Kamala Harris was starting with Barack Obama. Every Democrat presidential candidate picked someone dumber than them to be the vp. So Biden was dumber than.
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Byron Donalds
Than.
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Clay Travis
Than Obama. Kamala was dumber than Biden, and I think Tim Walls is dumber than Kamala. So each step was a progression where every vice presidential candidate was getting dumber and picking someone dumber than them. And I think, frankly, Kamala was insecure as the nominee about the idea of having a more talented vp. I do think Michigan played in and we went into the particulars on this, the fact that Michigan ended up going for Trump, but that the, the, the, the sort of, the Arab voter in, in Michigan was such a swing vote. They swung in a big way towards Trump, but I think they were terrified that if she picked a Jewish running mate that she would lose Michigan. Now she ended up losing Michigan no matter what. But I think Tim Walls was the fallback, least offensive choice and obviously he was a disastrous choice, which really goes to Kamala not being able to make good choices, which is the ultimate mess that she was in as a, as a potential president.
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Buck Sexton
Well, just think about what that also tells us when it comes to the Democrat bench, that Tim Walls was even really in the conversation or that Pete Buttigieg was someone that they were considering. Pete Buttigieg, it's interesting because if he wasn't a member of the LGTQIA community, I don't think he would be very well known as a politician. I mean, I think that he rode the DEI wave which did extend to that community. It's less so these days because of the change in the law or in the Supreme Court. But that she wouldn't pick him because of that is the great irony. Right. So he's, he's a guy who's probably the best. Would you say he's the best known Democrat politician who's gay these days? On the scene, probably, but that.
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Clay Travis
I don't even know who number two would be. He staked out that ground for himself. I mean, I guess there's some senators maybe that are lesbians.
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Buck Sexton
Frank. Right.
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Clay Travis
Who was, I think Barney Frank. I think that the, the senator who won in one of the Midwestern states. I don't even remember.
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Buck Sexton
He's, he's probably the best known. What his real differentiator is is that he's, he's a gay politician or a, a gay cabinet member. And that prevented him and Kamala's eyes from being. But you look at the rest of their bench, if you ask me who could have been Trump's VPs this time around, there's a list of about 10 people who come to mind right away, all of whom would have been fine, all of whom the base would have supported, etc. This time around, you saw what the Democrats had and you say to yourself, they really do not have any marquee political brands right now.
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Clay Travis
Correct. And we'll get into this tomorrow. But Axios has a good story up where they just asked A very basic question of 20 presumptive Democrat presidential contenders, can men become women? And 19 of the 20 candidates basically dodge the question, can men become women? Which Senator Josh Hawley from Missouri had go viral last week. Don Lemon has weighed in again, Buck, on anyone who is criticizing him for the church storming incident that we began the show with discussing. He says anybody who is upset about him being involved in interrupting the church service is, wait for it, an entitled white supremacist. Cut 28.
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Don Lemon
And there's a certain degree of entitlement. I think people who are, you know, in religious groups like that, it's not the type of Christianity that I practice, but I think that they're entitled and that that entitlement comes from a supremacy, a white supremacy. And they think that this country was built for them, that it is a Christian country. When actually we left England because we wanted religious freedom. It's religious freedom, but only if you're a Christian and only if you're a white.
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Clay Travis
Mal.
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Don Lemon
Pretty much. And so, Yeah, I absolutely. 100%, but it's an intimidation tactic. And, you know, I said, I don't understand how I've become the face of it. When I was a journalist, I do understand that I'm the biggest name there. And I'm also, as I was on with my producers this morning, you know, you and Kylie talk all the time. My producers were saying. I said, how did I become the face of this? And my producer said, don, you're a gay black man in America.
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Clay Travis
Oh, my.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, wait, Don Lemon is a gay black man in America? Is that. Oh, my gosh. It's not like his entire career has been built upon that basic premise.
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Clay Travis
Buck, I would submit to you that anyone who decided they were going to interview a minister in the midst of a church sermon when it was taken over by protesters, and then published that interview lecturing the minister about the First Amendment and how this is to be expected in America today would have become a prominent force, face of this protest. And yes, yes, Don Lemon is true, is correct that he was the most famous person who interrupted that church service. But also, no one likes Don Lemon. I don't even think Don Lemon has a base on the left in this country. Are there Don Lemon fans? Remember why he lost his job, Buck? He lost his job. Essentially, they demoted him from prime time.
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Buck Sexton
You're not in your prime. And then he said, you're not in your prime.
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Clay Travis
He lectured Nikki Haley and said he Googled when women were in their prime time, and it turned into a huge disaster. For that new morning show that he was doing. And they finally just decided, even with the protections that CNN had of him being gay and black, which he thought made him unfirable, even CNN said we can't have this continue. And so now he's running around doing YouTube interviews from the streets of Minneapolis and we'll see exactly what happens, as even Tim Walls is saying he doesn't support this protest inside of the church.
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Buck Sexton
So with that, everybody, Clay and I are going to start the serpentine route to the national title game tonight because there's going to be a lot of security, traffic, all of that stuff. We are hoping to find our way into that stadium where my beloved Hurricanes are going to be champions. They're going to win. I know this from the many hours I've spent evaluating tape getting into the playbooks of the various coaches. And I'm just saying right now, you just always bet on Buck. You know, I'm calling it for the Hurricanes.
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Clay Travis
I actually am betting on the Hurricanes tonight to cover, but I'm thinking that Indiana is going to win by a field goal late. I hope we get a good game because the Hoosiers have been dominating everybody. President Trump, Marco Rubio, Byron Donalds, a lot of Florida political establishment figures going to be there there tonight. Should be fun. Can't wait to check it out. We'll be with y' all on Tuesday. Thanks for hanging.
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