Hour 3 - Don't Be a Jerk

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Episode “Hour 3 - Don't Be a Jerk”

Release Date: July 16, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts – Clay Travis and Buck Sexton

In the episode titled “Don’t Be a Jerk,” Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into several pressing political and social issues with their signature blend of intelligence and humor. The discussion spans government funding cuts, particularly targeting public broadcasting, the recent incident involving J.D. Vance at Disneyland, the detrimental effects of social media on public behavior, and the challenges of parenting in the digital age.

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1. Government Funding Cuts and the Senate’s Rescission Package

[00:34 – 07:34]

Buck Sexton opens the conversation by addressing recent developments in government funding, focusing on the Senate's passage of a rescission package on July 15, 2025. This package involves the White House's request to cancel $9.4 billion in previously approved funds designated for foreign aid and public broadcasting.

Buck Sexton [00:34]: “This is what is known as a rescission package. It cleared its hurdle last night.”

Buck explains that Vice President J.D. Vance broke the tie in the Senate, facilitating the passage of these significant funding cuts. The conversation then pivots to the implications for public broadcasting entities like NPR and PBS, critiquing their reliance on government funds.

Buck Sexton [01:30]: “The argument has always been twofold… We don't even need the money. But you can't take away the money which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.”

Key Points:

• The rescission package marks a significant shift in government spending priorities.
• Public broadcasting organizations, despite declining audiences, have long defended their funding needs.
• The hosts argue that government subsidies create an uneven playing field in the media marketplace.

2. Critique of Public Broadcasting and Market Competitiveness

[07:34 – 09:50]

Clay Travis elaborates on the necessity of a competitive media marketplace, using their show’s growth metrics to illustrate success without government support. He highlights their expansion to 550 affiliates, a substantial increase since June 2021, contrasted with NPR’s diminishing audience despite receiving government funds.

Clay Travis [03:51]: “If a media outlet can't exist without government support, why should that media outlet exist when it's competing in the larger marketplace?”

Buck supports this view by drawing a satirical analogy regarding the allocation of billions to other media entities.

Buck Sexton [03:51]: “Is it a crazy idea if the government wants to give the Clinton buck show a few billion dollars? I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna yell at them over it.”

Key Points:

• Emphasis on self-sufficiency in media as opposed to reliance on government subsidies.
• Criticism of NPR’s and PBS’s continued funding despite competition and changing media landscapes.
• Advocacy for a level playing field where media entities compete based on merit and audience engagement.

3. Rescission Package as a Landmark Decision

[07:34 – 08:26]

Buck discusses the broader implications of the rescission package, noting its role in setting a precedent for future government spending reductions. He credits Elon Musk's team for popularizing the use of rescission packages, which formally request the cancellation of allocated government funds.

Buck Sexton [08:26]: “This would be the first [rescission package] that I can think of in a very long time.”

Key Points:

• The rescission package represents a significant move towards austerity and fiscal responsibility.
• Potential for future rescission packages to address other areas of perceived government overspending.
• Acknowledgment of the historical rarity of such measures, highlighting the package’s importance.

4. J.D. Vance’s Disneyland Incident and Public Conduct

[11:35 – 22:33]

A significant portion of the episode centers around an incident where J.D. Vance, a political figure, was reportedly harassed by protesters at Disneyland while visiting with his children. Clay and Buck condemn the behavior, emphasizing the inappropriateness of targeting someone's family, especially children, based on political differences.

Clay Travis [12:37]: “If you saw somebody with their young kids... yelling at them... you would be the jerk.”

Buck Sexton [13:45]: “Once again being a, a mannerless, godless leftist malcontent. It's not a good way to live your life.”

Key Points:

• Criticism of extremist behaviors in political protests, especially those involving families.
• Discussion on the negative portrayal of political opposition through hostile actions.
• Emphasis on maintaining civility and respect, even amidst intense political disagreements.

5. Social Media Behavior and Its Impact on Society

[29:57 – 38:44]

The hosts transition into a discussion on the pervasive impact of social media on public behavior and mental health. They explore how anonymity and distance provided by social media platforms can enable behaviors that individuals would not exhibit face-to-face.

Clay Travis [34:07]: “Social media is the funhouse mirror of the distortion of reality.”

Buck Sexton [37:30]: “There’s nothing that I would shrink from saying that I’ve said on radio ever.”

Key Points:

• The dichotomy between online and real-world behavior.
• Personal anecdotes illustrating the toxicity and anonymity of online interactions.
• Concerns about mental health impacts stemming from social media exposure.

6. Parenting and Technology in the Digital Age

[34:56 – 36:11]

Clay and Buck discuss strategies for mitigating the negative impacts of technology on children. Clay shares his personal experience of delaying his children's access to cell phones until they were older, highlighting the benefits of this approach in preserving mental well-being.

Clay Travis [34:56]: “The bigger the tech execs are, the more frequently they do this. And, Buck, you're going to be making these decisions...”

Buck concurs, emphasizing the need for restrictions in educational settings to limit distractions from cell phones.

Key Points:

• The trend among parents to restrict children's access to smartphones and social media.
• The importance of fostering healthy digital habits from a young age.
• Balancing technological engagement with offline activities to promote well-rounded development.

7. Listener Feedback and Interaction

[17:05 – 32:37]

The hosts engage with listener feedback, citing comments from listeners like Darren in Florida and Moses in Montana, who praise the show’s ideas and content. They play clips of listener messages, showcasing appreciation and agreement with their viewpoints on current political topics.

Darren in Florida [18:03]: “The Butler, Pennsylvania National Monument is a fantastic idea.”

Buck Sexton [18:14]: “Keep doing a great job, guys.”

Key Points:

• Positive reinforcement from listeners highlighting the show's impact.
• Building a community through active engagement and acknowledgment of listener contributions.
• Encouraging audience participation and feedback to shape future discussions.

8. Overall Commentary on Current Political Climate

[22:33 – 28:57]

Clay and Buck provide broader commentary on the current political administration, highlighting positive metrics like reduced border crossings, declining crime rates, and healthy stock prices. They credit leadership for effective policies, contrasting with previous administrations’ shortcomings.

Clay Travis [25:27]: “But this has become pretty phenomenal to watch through the first six months.”

Buck Sexton [25:10]: “Trump is delivering real consequential leadership that is impacting everybody.”

Key Points:

• Recognition of effective policy implementations under the current administration.
• Highlighting improvements in immigration control, public safety, and economic stability.
• Comparison with previous administrations to underscore the perceived successes.

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Conclusion

Throughout “Hour 3 - Don't Be a Jerk,” Clay Travis and Buck Sexton offer a critical analysis of government actions affecting public broadcasting, condemn inappropriate political protests, and explore the broader societal impacts of social media and technology on behavior and mental health. Their discussions are punctuated with humor, assertive opinions, and active engagement with their listener base, making for an informative and entertaining episode designed to foster thoughtful discourse among their audience.

Transcript

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[Buck Sexton]

Talk about what's going on with our government, specifically what's going on with the Senate. They advanced yesterday the White House request to remove cut billions in funds for foreign aid and public broadcasting. This is what is known as a rescissions package. It cleared its clear the hurdle last night. J.D. vance, the Vice president went in there to break the tie once again. The White House wants the cancellation of $9.4 billion in funding that had previously been approved for spending. Well, too bad. That was the old. That was the old boss. Welcome to the new boss here. So starting the clock on a process that gives lawmakers. What does this say here? 45 days to act. So this will make permanent some of the cuts from Doge Clay. Remember Doge had all these recommendations. These are Doge recommendations. And we can get into some more of the specifics of this. But first I have to say it's funny to me because the argument that NPR and PBS viewers supporters have always made right. The corporate operation for public broadcasting is going to have a $1.1 billion in cuts. So the argument has always been twofold from them or two two sided, two faced. We don't even need the money. But you can't take away the money which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. But, but it actually does expose what's going on here. On the one hand, do they like free money from the government?

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

Are they used to getting free money from the government? Obviously. But beyond that I think it's there's this brand value that is unearned in my mind or should be unearned for PBS and NPR where they get to be something that is mainstream and neutral and government supported. Like we need this. Like this is inherently a public good because it's being funded. It's not left wing agit prop. No. I think that should stop. And it's so obvious that this should have stopped a long time ago. Conservatives and Republicans have been demanding it for a very long time and it looks like it's about to happen. So everybody should just finally accept that this absurdity, which is throwing money at some left wing news organizations is going to come to an end. Yay, Trump.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. And look, I think all of this is very basic. We compete with npr, this show does on probably what hundreds of marketplaces nationwide. I mean, NPR is widely distributed, as is this show. And I think most of you would find it ridiculous if the government gave us billions of dollars in support and taxpayer dollars.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, what do you know? It's like, is it a crazy idea if the government wants to give the Clinton buck show a few billion dollars? I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna yell at them, I'm not gonna get mad at them over it.

[Clay Travis]

But it is interesting. Again, I think the marketplace should work. And thanks to you guys, the marketplace, this show is, you know, got 550 affiliates now. We're up 200 affiliates since we took over this show in June of 21. And that's a credit to all of you. NPR, meanwhile, has had diminished audience. And meanwhile, the government is giving them money. Does that seem fair to you, regardless of what your politics are? I don't think the government should be giving our show money. They certainly shouldn't be giving one of our top competitors money. Npr. So I sent out a joking tweet just now saying Democrats, based on their logic of if we don't provide taxpayer support to NPR and pbs, then those entities shouldn't exist. Well, if a media outlet can't exist without government support, why should that media outlet exist when it's competing in the larger marketplace, NPR in particular, with us? Look, if they do better than us, if there are more people who want to listen to their programming, if there's more people who want to listen to what I consider to be left wing, banal drivel, that's your right, and that's unfortunate in my opinion. But we got to compete with them. We got to do better. But you shouldn't give them billions of dollars and us nothing. And so I think it would be quite funny if Republicans introduced a bill to give billions of dollars in support to us, to Glenn Beck, to Sean Hannity, to the premier radio network, Jesse Kelly, and meanwhile continue to argue. And hey, NPR is fair. And this is not in any way putting a finger on the scale npr. I flagged this buck because I do think it's significant to remember. Do you remember this headline that came out in recent Vintage? It is. We don't. This is what NPR's managing editor for news said on the Hunter Biden story during the 2020 election. We don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories and we don't want to waste the listeners and readers time on stories that are just pure distractions. Well, boy, that's a big swing and a miss. But isn't it awfully convenient that during an election cycle NPR decided they weren't going to talk about a story at all? And as a result, huge percentages of Democrat voters, I think still to this day to a large extent believe that the Hunter Biden laptop story was entirely manufactured and was made up. And the reality is that of course has not been in any way justifiable. They put their finger on the scale to impact the outcome of an election and your taxpayer dollars went to help subsidize that occurring. That seems like an easy rescission vote. These are things that Elon Musk's Doge team recognized as expenditures that are unnecessary. And I believe the Republican Party should be able to deliver on this. We hear a lot about, hey, we, we're spending too much money, we're spending too much money. Well, this is look, is it a small amount? Relatively speaking, yes. But if it's unnecessary money, do you spend unnecessary money in your family budget? Probably not. So if you're wasteful and your expenditures on a family level, certainly there are lots of these issues that I believe in the larger marketplace we can address and help to help to remove. So to me, this feels like an absolute no brainer.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. And I think it is finally going to happen. And anytime that the government is cutting wasteful spending is a good time insofar as it sets a precedent and it shows that it's possible. And now more and more people know what a rescissions package is. This is when was the last time you heard anyone even talk about that? You'd have to credit Doge at least I think with popularizing far beyond what it used to be. The idea that you could send something to the Congress that says, hey, can we not spend this money? How about that? I let's be have you ever heard of a rescissions package before in, in the Senate, before this happened? I know you knew it was a concept, but you heard one that actually made it. I can't remember the last one that made its way through. This would be the first one that I can think of in a very long time.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I agree. And again, the precedent that's being set here I think is just there should be an open marketplace in media. I mean, this seems very basic to me and it's something that I think every Republican, regardless of your background, should be in favor of. The government shouldn't subsidize some forms of media. And I understand, by the way, in 1975, I understand why there might have been a need to subsidize pbs. Does anybody think there's not enough content now, are there? I mean, I just have to be honest with you. I don't remember there ever being more documentaries being made with the streaming era that we're in right now. I don't remember when, you know, look, when 1982, when everybody might have had five stations and maybe there's no other way for your kids to watch Sesame Street. I can see an argument. Hey, this is helpful. You got a one, you got a couple of month old buck. I will tell you out there, for anybody with young kids or grandkids, there has never been more child programming created on a yearly basis right now than exists that is being made right now. And just this sheer necessity of PBS I believe says in Sesame street on Netflix now. I mean, what is PBS even doing that it would need to be subsidized by the American taxpayer, to say nothing of npr, which again we directly compete with. And I know a little bit about their business model.

[Buck Sexton]

Have you seen the, the Titan submersible Netflix documentary? There's a few of these popping around now. But just as you were saying, all these, all these documentaries that have been made, I think, I think you would enjoy it or I think it would be an interesting watch for you. I watched it with Carrie maybe a week or two ago. And the one thing I'd say that I couldn't believe that they missed this part of it was they don't really tell you or show you anything about the actual implosion. You remember this? This is a crazy story. We were on the air together when this happened back in June of 2023 when this. There was a guy who's a billionaire and the guy running this organization and the billionaire sonnet. I think one or two other people who were on this sub that went all the way down to see the, the Titanic and in this case it imploded. But, but it's a particularly harrowing tale because on the way this guy should have known what was going to happen here. The documentary makes it clear. And I just, I was watching this thing and all I could think Clay, was they paid I think $250,000 to get on to get a seat on this submersible. I wouldn't have taken a seat on the submersible. If they had paid me $250,000. No interest. Well, maybe I have a little bit of claustrophobia or something, but no interest whatsoever. This would be at the absolute bottom of my list. I would jump out of planes long before I would do something like that. There's all kinds of stuff that I would sign up for before going into a tiny, you know, different designed little submarine to go peek at the, at the Titanic from a little window. I just thought the whole thing was, was kind of nuts. Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, I remember when that happened and I was glad I didn't get invited to do it because I think I would have been like, oh, that sounds kind of cool. Now I might be dead. So I'm trying to say no to all ridiculous things. I don't want to jump out of an airplane, I don't want to go to space. I don't want to go on a submarine. I don't even really want to go on a cruise ship. So I'm pretty good just being on land and, and hopefully. Yeah, like this whole, this whole process I think is interesting. By the way, speaking of, of the, you know, sort of interesting tourist moves, we should talk about this because you've got the young kid now too and it kind of ties in with the PBS and the television program and everything else. Did you see all the people screaming at J.D. vance's kids at Disneyland?

[Buck Sexton]

I did not.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, I'm pretty fired up about this. I had not seen it. I went on Sean Hannity last night and Sean played all the videos. I knew that JD Vance had taken his kids to amusement parks as every dad and mom basically on the planet will do at some point, maybe even including Buck Sexton one day. I cannot wait. So you have to go stand in like 95 degree heat to get on a roller coaster for vacation. I can't. I can't wait for Angry Buck coming back from the, from the kids, kids amusement parks. But are we really setting the standard of if you don't like someone politically and they go to a friggin amusement park. I almost cursed there. I got to be careful with their 3 year old that you're gonna scream at them. I mean, this is like dastardly, truly evil to me. Things that you would be yelling at young kids whose parents have busy jobs like everybody else and all the people out there and they're deciding to spend time with their kids and they're getting on, I don't know, like the Peter Pan ride and you're screaming at them because you disagree with Their politics like this is, I really think, psychologically broken, evil stuff. You can disagree with JD Vance, maybe screaming at his 3 year old at Disneyland is a bridge too far, I would think for most irrational adults, but not for a lot of leftists who decided to do this when they toured Disneyland. I watched these videos and I was kind of in disbelief even for knowing people are crazy.

[Buck Sexton]

Once again being a, a mannerless, godless leftist malcontent. It's not a good way to live your life.

[Clay Travis]

You know, it's just, we're just, just.

[Buck Sexton]

Here to tell everybody it's better to be on the other side, be on our side of this stuff. You don't want to be one of them, one of these evil commies, bitter about everything, yells at children, not good and even.

[Clay Travis]

Look, if you're out there right now and you're thinking, oh, I really disagree with who's the worst aoc, doesn't have kids yet, who's the worst parent on the Democrat side in terms of someone you would disagree with. Whoever that person is, if you see them at Universal Studios or Disney World or something and they're with their three year old, there's plenty of ways you can oppose their politics. I don't think yelling at them at an amusement park is going to advance your cause. It actually just makes you the jerk. And so regardless of your politics, let people take their kids places and leave them alone.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, Frederica Wilson is a member of Congress. She's my member of Congress. Actually covers my. I thought it was Salazar. I looked this up. It's Frederica Wilson. We're on a plane together. We sat next to each other. She has no idea who I am, but I would never bother her. She's the famously wears a cowboy hat or a lot of the time, not gonna bother.

[Clay Travis]

She's on her.

[Buck Sexton]

She's sitting on her plane going home to her family. It's not the time, you know, Excuse me, Congresswoman. You know, people are, people are nuts. So.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, no doubt.

[Buck Sexton]

Don't do that. No, you don't do that.

[Clay Travis]

All right.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

We've got you covered. Look for Post Reports wherever you listen to podcasts. Appreciate everybody rolling with us. You know what I kind of love is when people have great opinions on the talkbacks. And I thought I would hit a couple of these here because I gotta say, just really impressive takes here. Let me make sure that I get it lined up correctly. There were two in particular that I thought were completely from an unbiased perspective. Absolutely brilliant. Here's Darren in Florida 92. 5. He's just a really smart guy. Let's listen to what he has to say. BB this is Darren and LaBelle, Florida. Love your show. I am usually a day or two behind your episodes.

[Buck Sexton]

IHeartRadio is fantastic on my commute every day. Anyways, the Butler, Pennsylvania National Monument is a fantastic idea.

[Clay Travis]

I have to agree with Clay on that one. It hurts a Little bit to say that.

[Buck Sexton]

Keep doing a great job, guys. Thank you. And I feel you on that. You know when Clay's like, I have a big idea and I have to be like, that's actually a good idea. It's more fun when I can bring out the womp womp button. But Clay the Butler, Pennsylvania thing is a good idea. And I'm not the only one who was willing to say that to you. So there you go.

[Clay Travis]

National monument. I also think Moses in Montana. This guy just has a lot of really good takes. Here's Moses.

[Buck Sexton]

G.J. moses from Montana.

[Clay Travis]

I want to nominate Clay automatically for broadcaster of the year.

[Buck Sexton]

A Marconi award for his immediate yank of Rosie the Jetsons made.

[Clay Travis]

That was awesome.

[Buck Sexton]

That was impressive.

[Clay Travis]

Marconi for knowing the Jetsons made. I mean I think that's very valid. Everybody gets Marconi's these days. I mean it seems like my Jetson's knowledge should definitely qualify. We'll have some fun by the way when we come back too because a lot of people reacting to that amusement park thing. And also I can't stop laughing thinking about you being for the next decade just sweating like crazy at amusement parks with your kids.

[Buck Sexton]

If there is a hell for me, it's standing in a hot day in a crowded place in line to go do a thing with my kids who are being fussy. That that is, that is, I think hell. I think, you know, that would be sufficient punishment for whatever ill deeds I could even I could conjure.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

So we're just talking a second ago about what happened when J.D. vance went with his family to Disneyland. And for a second I didn't hear the land part. I just thought, think of Disney. I was like, there's no way that a random crowd would be booing J.D. vance in my great state of Florida. That just wouldn't, that wouldn't happen. The Florida sun would immediately melt them if they tried such a thing. We don't allow that kind of nonsense in this great state of Florida. But in California, Commie Fornia, unfortunately, this stuff, this stuff is able to fly. And some of you are particularly, you know, fired up about this. So we'll get. Yes, sir.

[Clay Travis]

I just think this is something that connects with a lot of parents out there. I mean, the idea, I think you have to be, I'm just gonna be honest, a really awful person to see someone with their young kids. I mean, we're talking about, I think his kids are like three and five, ballpark, and even younger, like a one year old or something. To see somebody with several young kids at Disneyland. I do agree with you that they probably should have gone to Disney World. I think the people there are likely to have been more hospitable to them than the people in Disneyland politically. But you shouldn't do this anywhere, right? I mean, look, I think that Hunter Biden is a awful, drug addicted, lying, conniving. I could put a lot of bad adjectives in front of him. He has a young kid. If you saw him in line for, I don't know, Mr. Toad's wild ride and you started yelling at him when he was there with his three year old, I think you would be the jerk. That's indefensible. And I disagree with, I think the guy has been awful, right? Like, by the way, Joe Biden's a grandpa. There's no, he's in line.

[Buck Sexton]

Same thing there's no excuse for. People will try to sell, they'll try to justify. Leftists were justifying this for a while in the first Trump administration when, remember, remember Senator Ted Cruz had maniacs surround him in a restaurant in D.C. and I think the restaurant actually, to its, to its enduring credit, was like embarrassed, told the, told the protesters to leave, invited Senator Cruz back and said, you know, we don't want any of that nonsense here. I think that's how it went down. But also, Sarah Huckabee was harassed at a restaurant and that restaurant actually was backing the protesters. So yeah, this was a thing they were doing and they kept acting the left. You Know, the activists, the MSNBC crowd kept saying, oh, we have to get up in people's faces and, and, and have our voices be heard. Like never in human history has it been easier to tell a public official what you think or to have your voice be heard. If you are shouting at somebody in public, generally it's because you're trying to intimidate or embarrass them. It has nothing to do with having your concerns heard. And if you're doing it in front of someone's kids or their family, you're a jerk.

[Clay Travis]

You're a jerk.

[Buck Sexton]

I think it's very, very straightforward on the, on the good news side of things when it comes to immigration. Stephen Miller, he is, you know, if, if the Open Borders crowd was choosing the form of their destructor, I think they, I think it would be Stephen Miller who is the destructor of Open Borders and the madness here he is standing up for ICE officers and pointing out that day in and day out with the enforcement operations that these officers are doing in communities where there are a lot of illegals and a lot of illegal criminals. Right. I mean, I know that's sort of a weird way to say it, but illegal status and they're committing crimes, Right? So people who are doing bad things and they're never supposed to, weren't supposed to be here in the first place. Here's Stephen Miller. Play 4.

[Clay Travis]

The rhetoric from Governor Newsom, the rhetoric from Karen Bass, the rhetoric from Democrat leaders in Washington is directly encouraging and incentivizing murderous migrant mobs to attack ICE officers. When they describe ICE officers, these heroes, as some kind of fascist force, some kind of Gestapo force, they are using the language that is meant to justify violence. ICE officers are literally, in real time, liberating American communities, once peaceful, once idyllic American communities, from an invasion force. I cannot imagine a nobler and more righteous activity for any American to do than to go into these communities, face off against hostile mobs, and literally free them from the forces of destruction and violence.

[Buck Sexton]

He's the best man, just, just always on it, never backs down an inch, knows the mission, totally dedicated to it. Tom Homan and Stephen Miller are a dynamic duo sitting atop a core mission of this Trump administration.

[Clay Travis]

Totally. And you mentioned yesterday, I think we had this conversation and Stephen has said it on the show. Stephen Miller sees what happened to California where he was born and raised, and he is terrified that it's going to happen to the whole nation. And he is going to do everything in his power to try to keep that from continuing to occur. And I think one of the big differences between Trump 1.0 and Trump 2.0, and we've talked about this a lot, is the quality of advisors and the people who can get things done that Trump has surrounding him now. I think Trump would say, and he has said on this program before Trump 1.0, he didn't really know what he was getting into. He wasn't a politician. He didn't understand the opposition that he was going to face in Washington D.C. to his agenda. You can look at the first six months. There have been very, very few policy based errors that this administration has had in the first six months of this tenure compared to the first six months of the last tenure. And I think it's important for us to keep echo and keep reinforcing and for many of you out there to recognize the border is shut down. I saw that the fewest border encounters number just came out yesterday, Buck, I think since 2003. So it's not only that people aren't getting across, it's that a lot of people have realized you're not going to get across and so they're not even trying to come anymore. Fewest in a generation at the border. Crime again, I don't want to jinx this, but murder rates all over the country are collapsing as police are being enabled to do their jobs and actually make us safe all across the nation. And all time record highs on stock prices and inflation as we talked about to start off the show today came in below expert expectations again. Economy, border, crime. Trump is delivering real consequential leadership that is impacting everybody now on a day to day basis and it is incredibly successful. Now. Are there still things that can be better? Yes. Every president and every administration can all be better always at what they're doing. But this has become pretty phenomenal to watch through the first six months. I want to tell you I was at the All Star game last night. Night before that I was doing the Home Run Derby which was pretty amazing, pretty awesome. And right now you can get hooked up if you want to have fun with the second half of the Major League Baseball season with prize picks, you can play it here in Georg, you can play it in Texas, you can play it in California. All over the country. 13 million people have signed up and right now this is just you get 50 bucks if you play $5 and you go to prizepix.com code clay that is pricepix.com code clay. You get $50 instantly when you play $5 win or lose. You are going to get hooked up and you're going to love this app no matter what you enjoy, whether it's baseball, whether it's basketball, whether it's football season. Training camps are going to open soon and it's not going to be long till kickoff. Now you can get hooked up. I promise you're gonna love it. I've been hanging out with some of the guys who run prize picks down here because they're based in Georgia. Get hooked up [e-mail] My Name Clay that is PricePix.com My Name Clay. Win or lose, you get 50 bucks for just playing. Guaranteed prize picks run. Your game must be present in certain states. Prizepix.com for restrictions and details, that's pricepix.com Code Clay.

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[Clay Travis]

By the way, I'm down here meeting with a bunch of advertisers. Good problem to have. So Buck will have the show solo tomorrow, so anything that you disagree with about today's show, you should just deluge him and complain in earnest. And I'm sure that he will be very excited to play all of your angry comments tomorrow when he has the show solo. I'll be back Friday. I'm going to be traveling but lots of good momentum. I appreciate all the work that you guys are doing. We are over 81,000 on the YouTube subscribers. I have talked about this. I want to get these numbers up. Maybe in the near future we may have the full show that you are going to be able to watch on YouTube. That is a goal that we are working towards on this program and you should be able to track us down. Type in Clay Travis. Type in buck sexton on YouTube. Buck has promised when we hit 90,000 puppies and babies, which is an simultaneous.

[Buck Sexton]

Puppy and baby, which is. Come on now. That's pretty exciting. So hit that YouTube subscribe button for Clay and Buck.

[Clay Travis]

I want to get us over a hundred thousand. So in all honesty, this is the way that many people out there, kids and grandkids, are consuming content. I've mentioned it before. My boys 17, 14 and 10, all they do is tick tock and YouTube. It's where they get all of their information. They don't watch traditional television, they don't listen to traditional radio. You can share some of the segments that we might have here with your kids and they are more likely to watch them there. And a lot. I mean, I'm not surprised because I know this is a huge parent and grandparent audience, but I do think that a lot of people, I mean you guys are deluging us with or at least I'm seeing a lot of commentary about the way that J.D. vance was treated. And I don't think. Have we played Mike in New Jersey? This is hh. He's a W O R listener. Let's listen to that.

[Buck Sexton]

In reference to J.D. vance's kids getting screamed at in Disneyland. Do you really expect people that jumped up and down for joy at the.

[Clay Travis]

Death of all the red state white.

[Buck Sexton]

Kids that drowned in Texas? As they say it, are you going to do anything nice to anybody else's kids?

[Clay Travis]

These people are dark, soulless creatures and don't deserve to even be acknowledged in my opinion. You know, it's interesting because a lot of the stuff that we see online I don't treat as the real world because people say things. I thought you said it. Well, Buck, about on this program, there's nothing that we would say, and I think this has been true of four years that we would say on this program that we wouldn't say face to face with someone. Now it doesn't mean that you're going to run up and be like, I think that you're. But, but there's nothing that I would shrink from saying that I've said on radio ever. If somebody came to me and they said, hey, you talked about me, I would say, yeah, I said that. I think a lot of people say online things that they would never say in person, but to translate it to Disneyland, it doesn't surprise me that people would say online, oh, I hate J.D. vance and kids and his family and everything else online. To yell at the kids in person is a next level. And I actually thought Fetterman, when it comes to the online discourse and a lot of the negativity associated unfortunately with the flooding that we saw was entirely connected to online discourse. But I thought Fetterman, who somehow is the only Democrat that ever makes sense. I went on an interview recently, I believe this was with Semaphore, and he just said, I never get online. I never read anything that people say online. I thought it was interesting.

[Buck Sexton]

Listen, people criticize you a lot online.

[Clay Travis]

Does that make you spend less time there?

[E]

I don't, I don't. Well, I assume that's happening, but I'm actually not on, I'm not on social media at all.

[Buck Sexton]

Not at all?

[E]

No, not at all.

[Buck Sexton]

You used to do your own tweets.

[E]

I produce, I produce the, the content and the, the tweets, but, but I don't just check in and I do the kinds of a thing. It's like, why would I. It's like I'd rather just sign up and have someone spend 30 minutes punching me in the face. So you know that it's out there and you know that it's back and forth. But I try to remind people that, that social media is the fun house mirror of the distortion of reality. And wherever I go in public, people are lovely and they're really actually kind and very supportive and hey, can we have a picture and shake your hand kind of a thing. So I would just remind anybody the world that you see on those social media is just not the reality. And imagine that through the lens of a 13, 13 year old child that has access to the same kinds of tools as an adult.

[Clay Travis]

I think we're gonna see increasingly, unfortunately, I think we're going to see social media and the fact that we allowed young kids to be exposed to it as a deleterious health related impact compare comparative to smoking in some ways. And I think you're starting to see this already where schools are saying, wait A minute. We're not going to allow kids to have phones in class. And I think you're seeing a lot of parents say, hey, I'm not going to give my kids phones until 14, 15 years old. That's the right call. I'm going to try to keep my kids offline as long as I can. The bigger the tech execs are, the more frequently they do this. And, Buck, you're going to be making these decisions, you know, with your son in the years ahead. And it's one thing that, that I think my wife and I got right, that we didn't give our kids cell phones until 14. Now they let us have it because they were like, we're the only kids in school that don't have cell phones. Dad, how in the world can you and mom not let us have cell phones? How can you keep us off social media? I think increasingly more and more parents are going to be making this decision. I think John Fetterman is right. The difference between online behavior and public behavior is seismic, and I think more and more people are recognizing it.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, I think that it's amazing when I find that there aren't bans on cell phones in all classrooms across the country, that that's still a thing that people are pushing for. I would have just assumed that was already the case, that you were never allowed to take your cell phone out in a classroom environment as a kid in grammar school, high school, it must be enormously distracting. And I do think also one of the problems that you see just all throughout society is that people say things on. Everyone knows, as you say things online, you wouldn't say to somebody in person. And it's very easy when you're just writing things at someone's avatar to forget that there's a human being on the other side of that. I mean, look, I'll tell you someone. I get a fair amount of nasty things sent to me just like you do, too. You sometimes retweet them, which is pretty funny. But I. I generally try to just, you know, delete or whatever. I. I don't spend much time with it. When I did the Bill Maher show and we got a lot of heat that time, someone wrote something that was so ornate in its, like, bizarre, demented, and, like, vile hatred that I actually did a little digging and I figured out where this guy were.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, CIA. You don't want to mess with the CIA guy.

[Buck Sexton]

And I figured out who he was. You know, he wrote behind some, you know, some fake email account. But I was Able to figure out who he was, what his name. Name was. And I was so close. I was like, should I. Should I just, like, forward this to his employer? I mean, is that. And I didn't. I want to be clear. I didn't. But this guy, if you didn't seem like he was very married, kids, worked for, like, a healthcare company, and wrote the kind of stuff that if you. If you like, completely insane. I think people hide demons internally that they let run completely wild online and that there's almost a split personality that some people have where they will. You know, they're. They're putting one face out to the world, and then the moment they have an Internet connection and anonymity, they turn into some kind of digital gremlin. And it's. It's common. I think it's a. It should be classified as a mental illness is what I'm getting at. Like, this is a real problem that's out there.

[Clay Travis]

The thing that staggers me about this, and I see it all the time, is the number of times that people have either kids in their profile picture or Bible verses in their protop profile picture.

[Buck Sexton]

Horrific things.

[Clay Travis]

Like, just awful, awful things. I was like, do you literally have a. Like, I shared one of these recently, a DM that I got, and it was like, you legitimately have a Bible verse as part of your profile, and then you just sent this to a stranger. I mean, I tend to be somewhat amused by it because it's so absurdly ridiculous, but it's also become quite normalized. And I think what people have recognized is what you said, that it's not the real world, or at least people behave differently in the real world than they do online. We appreciate all of you. All of your complaints go to Buck. By the way, it turns out that I've been mispronouncing the word banal. It's actually banal. I had no idea. This is a problem you have when you have an incredible vocabulary. Sometimes you know more words than you know how to pronounce them. But I bet there's other people who have been making that error. Thank you to the pronunciation police for saving me for myself, as many of you like to do.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay got pulled over by the pronunciation police, so that's why he's taking tomorrow off, just to punish himself. He's giving himself a timeout because the pronunciation police. Very scary. I hear a lot from people that.

[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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