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Welcome in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I'm in Knoxville, Bucks down in Miami. We are having a fabulous Thursday with all of you. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast if you haven't already. You can search out my name, Clay Travis. You can search out Buck Sexton. Also you can download the iHeartRadio app. Met a guy on Monday at the CAA World Congress of Sport at the bar, was getting a beer and he pulled it up and he said, hey, I listened on the iHeartRadio app. He was from Chicago, probably listening right now. Appreciate him in the sports marketing universe and a lot of you out there listening on podcasts, 550 plus AM, FM stations and also on so many different ways, including the iHeartRadio app. And we bring in now Dr. Larry Arn of Hillsdale College. And speaking of ways to get your message out, Hillsdale has been phenomenal at getting the message out about everything that they are doing. And I had the good fortune to get to sit next to Dr. Larry Arn at a Seattle, Washington area Hillsdale College event. And I read over the weekend a great weekend interview with you. Dr. Arne, given all the controversy surrounding Harvard and federal funding of universities and colleges out there, you had a really good argument. I want to let you make it for our audience. The reason Hillsdale doesn't take federal dollars is to be completely independent. Harvard has $53 billion in the endowment. Why can't Harvard just say, hey, we don't need any of this federal government money. We want to instruct in the best way that Harvard feels possible. That seems like a pretty good case to me. And you guys have done it at Hillsdale.
Unknown
Yeah. Thank you very much. You're a sports guy and I really enjoyed talking to you that night and enjoyed your speech very much. Yeah. So we live in what we think of as a liberal society. That means free. That means a lot of things have to go on in the society so that it can control the government. And if the government in detail manages education, including higher education, then the society loses its independence. And you know, Harvard, which gets a lot of money from the government, I mean, billions, they are living under hundreds of pages of detailed rules and they'd probably be better off without them. But now they've met some rules they don't like, like don't scream. Don't let the students scream dirty Jew at each other. And they are rebelling about that. And that's, you know, they're in an interesting spot, aren't they?
Clay Travis
They're not the only ones either. Dr. Arn, I appreciate you being with us. There are a number of schools, Columbia University, I could rattle off a few more if I thought about it. But some pretty big name educational institutions out there that have gotten on the wrong side of the Trump administration and therefore the federal government on some of these issues. Do you think that their plan is to just try to batten down the hatches and ride it out and keep doing what they've been doing? Because in the case of admissions, for example, I mean, Supreme Court has been quite clear that some of these institutions have been engaged in unconstitutional discrimination in their educational practice and admissions practices. And yet the understanding seems to be that they're just going to keep doing it and get federal dollars.
Unknown
Yeah, there's something really bad about that. I mean, first of all, these institutions we're talking about are some of the greatest universities in the world. Harvard is the oldest in our country and it has been a treasure for a very long time and it's still a very elite place. But they got wedded to the idea that what color you are is some vital characteristic in your qualification to be a student. And that's just wrong. I mean, it's bad philosophy. It undercuts the whole understanding of the academic task. And as you point out, it's unconstitutional in a nation devoted to all men are created equal. So there's, you know, and they are stubborn about it there. It's deeply ingrained. It was amazing to me a year ago in the spring that they were having these demonstrations in favor of Hamas and River to the Sea and they were oppressing Jewish kids, abusing them and spitting on them. And some of them were assaulted physically. And they were certainly terrorized and they couldn't stop it. And at Columbia, they suspended class. At Harvard, there were major disruptions. And I thought at some point these places are run by people who are in broad agreement with each other. At some point you think they'd say, this is embarrassing, we should go back to class. That's what we're here to do. And they couldn't do it. And that's just, you know, sad. It made me sad also surprised. And, you know, they've got some problems now. They are addressing those problems, they say, and I sometimes doubt their capacity to do that. And the Trump administration is demanding certain monitoring of them. And that's what they're kicking about and rebelling and they're sued. Harvard has sued the government and is going to be a big legal fight. And, you know, but think of the outcome if they win. It would mean that they're entitled to the money. You can't stop it on the ground that they are discriminating and oppressing people because of their race and religion. And, you know, and the government may not monitor that. Well, at the beginning of the show, you said what I think is the actual solution. We need to decentralize very many things in America. There's way too many rules coming from the top and making a uniform administrative system all over every kind of industry, all over the place. And colleges should be funded in a wide diversity of ways. You know, there's like really rich people in America and, you know, a lot of them give money to Harvard and a lot of them don't. Well, the thing is those rich people disagree with each other. And so if it's the government, it's a uniform rule for everybody. And you have to have that sum, but you don't have to have that. So comprehensively and especially affecting something sensitive like education, which is, you know, where what college is actually for is for young people to go and grow into excellent human beings in intellect and character. And the definition of that is human. And that means Jews and Arabs should both aim for that. And the institutions of higher education should have practices and standards so that everybody pursues that and does it together. The word college means partnership. So they, they, they lost their way, in my opinion, and I hope they find it. But they're fighting very hard not to do it. Not to do it.
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Dr. Larry Arn with us right now of Hillsdale College. Fabulous school. Got kids out there. Not a bad place to consider applying. I'm in Knoxville, Tennessee right now, Dr. Arn. Basically, I can see the University of Tennessee campus nearly from where I'm broadcasting. I'm curious how you would analyze this in your career as an educator. It used to be that people look down on big state schools in the South. Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Arkansas, whatever school you want to use in the Southeastern Conference region. Now I hear all the time, and I bet you do as well for Hillsdale applications. People in New York, Louisiana, Chicago, who would have said in the past, oh, I would never send my school, my son or daughter to the University of Alabama or the University of Mississippi bragging about their kids going to SEC schools because what you just referenced these protests. They didn't stand for them in the South. They didn't stand for attacking Jewish people in the wake of October 7th. What does it say about the cultural shift in our landscape that big state schools in the south are suddenly desirable across the country and small schools like yours in Michigan that are independent and classically committed to education are surging in popularity while places like Harvard, Yale, ucla, Stanford that maybe in the past have been the absolute paragons of academic achievement seem to be declining. What does that tell us?
Unknown
Isn't that something? And you know, that has to do with the politics of those states. You know, Hillsdale is a special case because we don't take any money from the government and we're old and committed to certain things that we've been committed to for 182 years. But those, you know, in a state like Tennessee or Arkansas, I'm from Arkansas. You know, the government and several state legislatures, including in Tennessee, have set up centers in those places where friends of mine are teaching now and they, you know, make sure they're sane. But the general climate of those places is not so what the most elite places in America and that it's not just in higher ed, it's the Ivy League, but it's journalism, it's the government, it's big corporations. They look at the world as sort of an engineering project and we're going to remake the world. And so they don't, you know, they've got very unusual views about the family and sex. And it turns out that what's going on in America is that's not working with lots of people. Like, you know why I think people ought to get married and have kids because it makes your life richer and it's cool and it's hard. But if you do that, what do you think about the kids? What do you want them to become? They are produced by a relationship and a sacrifice that parents make for decades. And so they don't want their kids sex changed without their permission. They don't want their kids taught that that human nature is just a convention and we can re engineer it.
Clay Travis
And so there's Dr. Arn, can I just jump in really quickly to ask because this is what I was going to take you anyway. You're talking about the kids and what they're being taught. I'm sure you saw the, the arguments before the Supreme Court. We were talking about it on the show. What is going on in education where they want to read these very explicit and very trans agenda focused books to very small children. And this is widespread. Where, what is this? Where does this come from?
Unknown
Well, it's, you know, first of all the intellectual roots of this movement are old, right? That's, you know, they became explicit in 19th century German historicism and they came into America through a movement called progressivism that's still with us today. People use that word still today, but what did they think? What they thought was there isn't a thing like human nature. That word nature is a very interesting word and it means a lot of things, but it starts with the Latin word for birth. How we come to be and grow and what we're like when we're grown. But now, no, it's not that so much now. What we have is the idea that we understand a historical process that is liberating us and changing everything. And because we have modern science, we can get control of the process and we can re engineer even ourselves. And so of course, then the family has to be a target of that. And race is a target of that. And in some versions of it, you know, like the difference between Nazism and communism is only one thing. Nazism is mostly about race. Communism is mostly about property and money. And Nazism thinks if you've got the right genes, you're a superior being. And communism thinks you are formed by what you do for a living and how you work. And if you got a lot of money, you're in one class and if you don't, you're in another. And we have to transcend all that. We have to overcome private property. And what the Nazis think is, you know, if you've got the right blood, then you're superior. Now what's interesting about both of those doctrines, because they're materialist doctrines, what they do is upset the idea that any human child can come to know things objectively. That's, you know, and human freedom hinges on that argument, which is a classical argument and a religious argument. And all of the colleges, any college of any age, Hillsdale College, Harvard is the oldest one in America, they were all founded on that idea that there's something, a spark in the human being that transcends his body, includes his body and transcends his body that makes it possible for him to learn objectively. And if that. And see, what's interesting about discarding that argument is that you've discarded all the basis of reasoning. In other words, if the Nazis are right or the Communists, they can't have objective knowledge of anything. See, because they're all, they're just creatures of some material condition that drives them. And you know, in those documents, those doctrines are very prevalent in the world. They have led to two great World wars, you know, tens of millions of people killed over them. So what you should do in a college is study them, understand them, and understand the alternative, which is, you know, we study those things at Hillsdale College, but also we study the classics. Right. And then you become armed with a way to understand things that let you evaluate the world and see, that's another thing about these Ivy League colleges. I noticed in the last year ago, last spring, that when they were demonstrating about Hamas and anti Jews, they would interview these kids and they didn't really seem to know very much about it. You know, they've just got doctrine and they're. They want their way right now, but aren't they really there to learn? Like it's, you know, it's a very interesting question, which, you know, turns out I work for a great historian who wrote about this. Do the Jews, modern Israel, have a right to the land on which it is? Well, first of all, that's a history that goes back. You know, Israel was founded in 1948. How did that happen? Where did that come from? Who decided it? Right. In other words, there's a rich world of stuff to figure out about that, and I don't think they're doing at Harvard.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, I think you're right about that. We have to go to a commercial break. I feel like we could just have you on talking for hours and it would be phenomenal. We need to have a longer form conversation at some point with you. In the meantime, if your kids are applying to colleges, I would suggest you could do way worse than Hillsdale. Sir, we appreciate the time. And I encourage people to go read that Wall Street Journal piece, which I thought really elucidated some very interesting and intelligent arguments as it pertains to academic freedom. Thank you, Dr. Arn. It was great to spend time with you in Seattle.
Unknown
Thank you both.
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Back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the Thursday edition of the program and I mentioned that I'm in Knoxville. I've got a speech engagement here I'm going to do as soon as the show is over. But I do think we talked to Dr. Larry Arn just because I'm so close to the University of Tennessee campus right now. I don't know that the full nation Buck, your wife is a University of Florida graduate. I don't know that the full nation has quite come to grips with Southeastern Conference schools, also ACC schools, the Florida states, the Clemsons of the world. How insanely popular all of these schools have become in the wake of the protest. Such that a lot of Jewish families, New York, Louisiana, Chicago area that would have never even thought of sending their kids to SEC schools in the wake of the October 7 protests and the fact that so many SEC schools counter protested in support of Israel. I would argue that probably the most supportive area in the country of Jewish people in the wake of October 7th has actually been some of these SEC campuses which have now exploded in applications. Certainly Covid is a part of this too, because you could actually have a normal life, but the idea that the University of Alabama is now an aspirational goal for a kid growing up in New York or la. You grew up in New York. Can you imagine, like back when you were graduating, if you'd been like, yeah, my choices are, you know, Amherst or, or University of Georgia. People would have thought you were crazy. Now people are.
Clay Travis
I didn't know.
Buck Sexton
This is like that.
Clay Travis
I didn't know a single person from my 130 guy class that even applied to an SEC school. Clay.
Buck Sexton
Yep. Not even Vanderbilt.
Clay Travis
I'm sorry, Vanderbilt.
Buck Sexton
Vanderbilt was the exception.
Clay Travis
I applied to Vanderbilt. So I mean, so yes, I forgot that Vanderbilt. But I mean all the other schools you talk about, I didn't know a single person who applied. You know, I just looked this up. I was kind of curious because our, our neighbors here have a boy who's applying. He's a junior. And I was like, well, he lives in Florida. Uf, right? They're like, oh, uf. Obviously where Kerry went. Uf. Very, very tough these days. And I'm like, well, how tough are we talking about? You know, the average, the average SAT at the University of Florida. The average sa. What do you think it is? Take a guess.
Buck Sexton
I don't know if they still score them the same way because I've got a 17 year old.
Clay Travis
Forget about the 2400. That was a garbage thing where they added the. No, no, no. We're talking the usual.
Buck Sexton
I would bet 1300 or something is probably the average at a school like Florida.
Clay Travis
1380. It's almost a 1400 now.
Buck Sexton
That's crazy.
Clay Travis
In my day, if you broke 1400, you, you know, you were looking at Ivy League possibility and you broke 1500. You could apply anywhere. So you're, you're basically at the similar scores to get into like, and I know it's been this way at U Michigan and, and you, you know, University of Virginia for the state schools for a long time. But U of F now I'm, I don't know, I, I can check and see what it is at University of Georgia. I'm sure it's higher than it's ever been.
Buck Sexton
I will tell you certainly Texas, Texas A and M. When I was a kid, you basically had. Not trying to take a shot here.
Clay Travis
13, 13, 20, University of Georgia. That's a very respectable. I mean, that's, you get a, you know, you break 1300. The SAT is a very respectable score.
Buck Sexton
These are tough. You basically had to have a pulse to get into the University of Tennessee when I was graduating from college, I mean, high school, 25 years ago. It's really hard now to get into the University of Tennessee. Like they're turning people down. I think they had 60,000 applicants for the University of Tennessee, which is crazy to think about, from all over the country, by the way. Let me hit you with this, Buck. This was my big, provocative take. All right. In addition to everything else I've said today, George Clooney is going around doing his, in his tour, media tour because he's got Good Night, Good Luck, which I went and watched and teed off on a bit. The Broadway play. I think it's the highest grossing Broadway play play in history. In a week, I think it's making like four. I think that's right. I think it's making $4 million on average a week right now in Broadway plays, which I think is the highest grossing Broadway play ever. Now they have started dynamic pricing, which means they're charging hundreds and hundreds of dollars a ticket. So that's part of the reason.
Clay Travis
But if I got tickets for free, would I want to go see this thing for free? Would I be happy? Yes, I would. Okay. All right.
Buck Sexton
I mean, I, I went solo. You were out. It was baby week because I'm in New York. It was awful weather. I went and saw that. And Othello with Denzel Washington, both solo. And I was impressed with both. But for the fake Elon Musk. Spoiler alert. Nazi salute at the end of Good Night and Good Luck, of course, not being asked about it at all, despite all of the, the, the guest hits he's doing as an interview subject. But here's my. I want to play this cut here in a sec, but here's my thesis buck. I think George Clooney is going to run for president. I think George Clooney is going to toss his hat in the ring because he, When I watched this play, it felt to me like an audition for President of the United States. It did. Now let's listen to what he said. But just to kind of put that out there, I think there are going to be several Democrat candidates who are not sitting office holders, because the sitting Democrat office holders, many of them are very, very unpopular. But here's what Clooney said. We've got a cut for you. Discussing the current political situation.
George Clooney
From Jackson to McCarthy to this, the authoritarian, the demagogue. It goes away when they go away and he goes. And they don't have anybody that's as charismatic as him. He's charismatic. There's no taking that away from him. He's a television star. He is, he's charismatic. I mean, I, I, I don't agree with him at all on anything. But, you know, he was famous from a television show. If you're a Democrat, we have to find some people to represent us better who have a sense of humor and who have a sense of purpose. And, you know, we, we need to put some people out there. I, there are a couple of guys that, a couple of people that I really admire and I think could be. I think Wes Moore should be president. I think he's going to be a real force in the next election. He's the governor of Maryland.
Buck Sexton
So that answer, Buck, he gives Wes Moore some credit, gives him his flowers. But the person that George Clooney is describing there as what they need, I think is George Clooney. I think George Clooney is saying what America really needs is a guy who's a good communicator, has done television and has a sense of humor. And you're supposed to think, oh, well, that's George Clooney. Like, George Clooney wants to be drafted to run for president of the United States and basically feel like he is the salvation of the Democrat Party. This is my, this is my theory.
Clay Travis
You're calling a shot way out there and way in advance. Yes, but it's already bothering me because this would be horrific because he is. You want to talk about overrated? I think George Clooney may be the most overrated person on the planet as an actor, as a, as a columnist, for political reasons.
Buck Sexton
You and Trump both have come after George Clooney on the program.
Clay Travis
Trump sniffed this guy out a long time ago. Clooney is just lucky. He has now. He plays the same kind of wooden, boring performance and everything that he's in. I know people say, oh, I like Ocean's Eleven. Yeah, I do too. But do you care if George Clooney's in it? No, you do not. You can replace him with 10 other people. Every movie that George Clooney was supposed to carry is, is grim and boring. But Hollywood tells you it's great because he's got the right friends at the right, you know, right studios, the right publications. I, I am, I am. You know, Clooney is the fauci of Hollywood, all right? The guy's terrible and nobody should think otherwise. But it'd be fun if he ran for president because then I could focus all of my anti Clooney Irene into a concentrated, like, long term campaign to explain to everybody that, you know, he's just, he's just kind of the worst. He's just the worst producer.
Buck Sexton
Ali, by the way, is just Broadway fact checking me like crazy over my. Here is the headline from the Hollywood Reporter. Good night and good luck just hit $3.9 million. That is the most money that a Broadway play has ever made in the history of a week. Not all time. The most that has ever happened in it eclipsed Othello with Denzel Washington, which made nearly 3 million the week before. So this news just came out a couple of days ago, but it is legitimately the average ticket price buck $310 to get in to. Good night and good luck right now.
Clay Travis
You know, but making the most money. You know, Pablo Escobar made a lot of money too, but I don't think that he left a good mark on the world. I'm, I'm just saying.
Buck Sexton
And he did get hippos to Colombia.
Clay Travis
He did. There was a population. They did eventually move them back to Africa, I believe. But hippos, I think they're still there.
Buck Sexton
I think the Colombian hippos are still there.
Clay Travis
I thought they were going to get rid of them, relocate them. Yes. I, I am not, not a fan of judging the merit of any artistic work by the box office. You know why? You know what the highest grossing movie of all time is? Avatar, which is just Dances with Wolves and Fern Gully with blue people and 3D. That makes your stomach turn. Okay, Avatar was trash. A trash movie.
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And everybody, that's one that you got wrong. You came on here and you were like, Avatar 2 is gonna bomb. And then like a week later it made like a billion dollars. I get it. I went and watched it. I don't disagree with your Fern Gully meets Dances with the Wolves. That movie does. I don't understand why, but it does. Unbelievable. Gross. They're making a third, I think.
Clay Travis
No. Are they? Oh, my God. The third highest box office of all time. Of all time is Avatar. To. What is wrong with people now? What is wrong.
Buck Sexton
Fair. To be fair, you really have to inflation adjust these things because I think I'm correct that Gone with the Wind, which you somehow have never seen, is the highest grossing movie of all time.
Clay Travis
If I try to watch this with Carrie, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna put my marker out there right now. Carrie will last 10 minutes before she's out like a light. If we try to watch Dad's, it's gotta get you. She's a scary private ride. Like it has to grip her right away or else she's out.
Buck Sexton
Every woman in America has seen Gone.
Clay Travis
With the Wind except my wife, apparently.
Buck Sexton
No, she's Never seen. Really? She hasn't seen it.
Clay Travis
I don't think Harry care. Oh, she's gone now.
Buck Sexton
She's 100% seen gone with the Wind.
Clay Travis
I don't think so. I've never seen the Sound of Music either, which apparently everybody has seen. I've heard so much about it that I think I have seen it because I know the musical numbers from it. We know Clay is a big musical guy but I am, I am in shock and dismay right now as I look at the top grossing. By the way the alley pulled up the number one grossing Broadway all in all time is the Lion King. Which I respect that. I like the Lion King.
Buck Sexton
That makes sense. I mean and also those they get on tours. Right. So you and very, very family friendly.
Clay Travis
It's very, you know, cry. You can watch the Lion King anywhere in the world and it's going to appeal to you. It's going to be cool. The top movies though, guys, this is, this is horror. James Cameron dominates. Dominates top movies all time. Avatar. Then it's Avengers, Endgame. Then it's Don't. I can't even produce producer Marcus here. He'd be shaking his head at me because I've always said, I think that these guys single handedly have like destroyed the superhero genre.
Buck Sexton
Yes, they Avengers game is really well done. It is. I'm sorry, you're on the wrong side of history with that take Clay.
Clay Travis
Clay's a. Clay's a barbarian Avatar. The way of water is number three. Titanic is number four. I mean, okay. And then Star Wars, Avengers, Spider Man, Jurassic World. I love Jurassic Park. As you all know, I'm a big Michael Crichton devotee. Jurassic World garbage. The LION King, number 11. Respect here.
Buck Sexton
Here they are by the way, in Fl. Well, let's go to break. I'll tell you the inflation adjusted because I think that's one of the ways you have to look at it. But James Cameron not doing poorly there either.
Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Into Clay and Buck. Got some important updates on conversations we've been having today on the show, including I was right, Clay, my wife has never seen Gone with the Wind. Agrees with my assessment that she would rapidly fall asleep because it's probably too slow for her liking.
Buck Sexton
So I would have lost massive amounts of money. I don't know how it's possible, given how often this thing is on tbs to have not seen Gone with the Wind. Especially a southern girl like your, like your wife who grew up in Tallahassee, Orlando.
Clay Travis
She's a Florida girl. Florida.
Buck Sexton
All right, sorry. Gone with the Wind, by the way, highest grossing movie adjusted for inflation of all time. Then Avatar, then Titanic. So James Cameron has two of the highest grossing movies adjusted for inflation in the history of film. That's pretty. I would never have believed that Avatar is number two in the history of film.
Clay Travis
Have you seen some of those after the fact analyses of, of Titanic? Like if you're really. If we just take away, like step away from the whole. Oh, it's a movie. Just enjoy. Think for a second. So this lady is engaged to this rich guy and she decides to just have a one night stand with some homeless dude who she then lets drift underwater and freeze to death. There was room on that door. We all know it. Like, it's pretty messed up when you actually, when you actually dig into this a little bit.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, I mean, I would think that she would have had, you know, instead of throwing the, the, the, the golden goblet or whatever, the, the jewel into the water, I think she would have thrown herself into the water. We got a couple of funny talkbacks here, by the way. She should have definitely let Jack up on the float. And the fact that that is the third highest grossing movie of all time is pretty incredible. Ben in Denver, Colorado, what you got for us, cc?
Clay Travis
Hey, Clay, I love you bud, but I'm a leaf blower guy.
Buck Sexton
I mean.
Clay Travis
Clay is. Clay is having fits right now. I mean, you're, you're putting them over the edge.
Buck Sexton
I am very anti leaf blower. And Cameron in Miami, down in Buckstown, he also wanted to weigh in. Leaf Blowers United. They hate me. Go Cameron.
Clay Travis
Hey, Clay, this one's for you. Put on your show.
Buck Sexton
Whatever great, whatever great life experience you're having. Leaf blower guy is going to destroy it. They got to show up. You were talking about it.
Clay Travis
Do you like that he's yelling? Do you like that? Over his own leaf blower? That's aggressive.
Buck Sexton
No, I don't, I don't like it at all. And you were just telling me that they ruined the leaf blowing. Guys, when you're in Charleston with your mom hanging out for her birthday.
Clay Travis
Yeah, Savannah. They came over having a nice beautiful coffee on the streets of Savannah and leaf blower guy comes over right next to us. I was just like pulling leaves out of my teeth instead of drinking my cappuccino like a civilized man. Julian, Salt Lake City. What have you got for us?
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Okay, I think that's well said. We agree.
Clay Travis
Thank you. That's a very nice call. Nice, nice way to end things here, guys. We'll be back tomorrow. Uncle Bill's going to be with us. Bill O'Reilly going to be exciting.
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Episode: Hour 3 with Dr. Larry Arnn
Release Date: April 24, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
In this episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Dr. Larry Arnn, a prominent figure from Hillsdale College. The discussion delves into the intricacies of federal funding in higher education, the autonomy of educational institutions, and the shifting landscape of university popularity across the United States.
Dr. Larry Arnn emphasizes Hillsdale College's commitment to financial independence by refusing federal funds. This stance allows the institution to maintain autonomy over its curriculum and governance without adhering to external governmental regulations.
The hosts raise concerns about prestigious institutions like Harvard and Columbia University that accept substantial federal funding. Dr. Arnn critiques these universities for becoming complacent and being bound by stringent government regulations, which, in his view, stifle academic freedom and institutional integrity.
The conversation highlights how reliance on federal funds leads to universities enforcing strict policies that may hinder free speech and academic inquiry. Dr. Arnn shares incidents of unrest at Harvard and Columbia, attributing them to the universities' inability to manage internal conflicts without governmental oversight.
Buck Sexton notes a significant surge in applications to SEC schools, attributing this trend to the cultural and political stances these institutions have taken, particularly in support of Israel. Dr. Arnn discusses how these schools’ alignment with certain values makes them more attractive to a broader student base, contrasting them with traditional elite universities.
Dr. Arnn advocates for a return to classical education principles, emphasizing objective knowledge and the development of character and intellect. He criticizes modern educational trends that prioritize identity over merit, arguing that such practices undermine the true purpose of higher education.
Beyond the main topic, Clay and Buck indulge in a lighter conversation about Hollywood figures like George Clooney. They debate whether Clooney harbors presidential ambitions and critique current blockbuster films' quality.
The episode concludes with audience call-ins and humorous exchanges between Clay and Buck about personal anecdotes and pop culture references. They reinforce the importance of institutions like Hillsdale College and express optimism for the future of higher education.
This episode provides an insightful critique of federal involvement in higher education, advocating for financial independence to preserve academic freedom and institutional integrity. Dr. Larry Arnn presents a compelling argument for classical education and the importance of maintaining objective knowledge standards. The discussion also sheds light on the evolving preferences in university selections, highlighting a cultural shift towards institutions that align with certain values and political stances.
Listeners gain a deeper understanding of the challenges facing elite universities and the potential benefits of decentralizing educational funding. The episode underscores the need for educational institutions to prioritize merit and character development over political compliance, ensuring a robust and free academic environment.
This comprehensive summary captures the essence of the episode, highlighting key discussions and providing valuable insights into the state of higher education and cultural shifts within university popularity. It serves as an informative guide for those who haven't listened to the episode, ensuring they grasp the critical points and underlying themes of the conversation.