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Jack Armstrong
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Joe Getty
He's Joe Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
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Clay Travis
How about something about a comedic tone?
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Jack Armstrong
We have winner. Yes. Listen to Armstrong. You get it on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra Affair.
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Jack Armstrong
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane. I can't begin to tell you.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Buck Sexton
To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jack Armstrong
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show podcast.
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Joe Getty
Third hour.
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Clay Travis
Clay and Buck kicks off now. And as promised, we are joined by Dr. Nicole Sapphire. She is the host of Wellness Unmasked on the Clay and Buck Podcast Network. You also know her as a Fox News contributor and is an MD doctor, not a, not a Jill Biden doctor. So we're going to talk to her about some medical stuff. Dr. Sapphire, great to have you back.
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Dr. Nicole Sapphire
Thanks so much, guys for having me. Excited to be on today.
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Clay Travis
Let's dive right into it. That big news from over the weekend about Biden's diagnosis, we, Clay and I think have already established with everybody, of course, we're all very anti cancer. It is sad when anyone gets cancer. We hope that, you know, he is able to be successfully treated. We're not talking about that. Beyond the news item of its announcement, what is, I think, of public concern, and rightfully so, is given that he was president and given that they have now admitted they hid effectively senility from the American public and they've now come forward with that. We have, we have questions, a lot of people have questions about what the likelihood is that this diagnosis was also hidden from the public based upon how a disease like this progresses. What can you tell us as an md?
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Dr. Nicole Sapphire
Yeah, unfortunately, I think the last four years and how there has just been obvious deception when it came to Biden's cognitive decline and not being forthcoming with that has a lot of people on edge right now and rightfully so. I mean, we, you know, myself, I wrote articles, I spoke publicly about. I didn't believe that the former President Biden's doctors were forthcoming about his mental and physical fitness at the time that he was in the White House. The, the metastatic prostate cancer diagnosis that we just learned over the weekend is devastating. And at this point, it is not about wishing him recovery or to be cancer free because once you have a stage four cancer diagnosis, you don't ever get rid of that. The best we can hope for is to have no progression of disease. And when you have metastatic disease to the bone, it is incredibly painful. So I'm sure he's probably uncomfortable right now. We even know that he presented because of symptoms and not from routine screening. Now, I think some of the big questions that a lot of us had is, you know, is this something that they Kept from the public. And the answer is, well, we don't know, but we can kind of talk through this a little bit. At the age of 82, to be honest, not every 82 year old man is being screened for prostate cancer. In fact, a lot of formal recommendations are that you don't screen for prostate cancer and other cancers at this age. But because of, you have to take into many factors, you know, what is their life expectancy, will they actually benefit from the treatment? But we do know that while Biden was in the White House because of his annual exams, he was being screened for colon cancer with colonoscopies. He was getting skin checked for skin cancer screenings. So therefore we can assume that he was getting routine screenings. And you would expect that from the President of the United States. We would want to make sure we're catching all illness early. So the assumption should be that he was probably being screened for prostate cancer at least while he was in the White House. They never mentioned whether or not he was, whether he had the physical exam, checking for nodules on the prostate, or whether they were screening him with the common blood test, the PSA test which people may be hearing about. They never mentioned those. And interestingly, on other physical exams, President Trump, even former President Obama, they did mention when a PSA was drawn, they didn't mention that in President Biden. Does that mean that they hid it from us intentionally? No, not necessarily. You don't always tell people all the pertinent negatives of the physical exam, but it is curious that they didn't mention it.
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Joe Getty
Do you think that this could be missed? So let's just kind of take a step back. Let's pretend that it's not Joe Biden we're talking about. There's an entire medical team and apparatus that is surrounding the President every minute of every day for the last four years. Anything that is remotely wrong with him. He has a team of doctors the likes of which basically doesn't exist for any other person in America. Do you think it is possible that they could have completely missed this cancer and that on Friday this is, I'm just asking for your medical opinion. And then on Friday they would suddenly come out and say, not only does he have cancer, but it's a stage four cancer that has gotten to the point where it is now advanced to being inside of his bone. Does that seem likely to you as a doctor?
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Dr. Nicole Sapphire
I can tell you that cancers are missed and not all cancers are. Not all prostate cancers are associated with a rise in. Most of them are. Most of Them, you'll have a high psa. So if you are screening for prostate cancer, you should pick up on that. But not all of them are. So you can't say 100% of cancers are. Therefore, if he had normal PSA, he didn't have cancer. That's not true. It sounds like he presented with urinary symptoms. What is that? It could be urinary frequency, pain, whatever, frequent urination. And then that's where they found the hardened nodule. From presenting with symptoms to a biopsy, proven prostate cancer, to now confirming metastatic disease, all in less than a week's time. That's a stretch for me a little bit. But I will say he is the former president, so he doesn't get treated like the rest of us. He probably gets accelerated scans and everything is being done for him in the same day and everything's being prioritized. So is it possible? Absolutely. But they had a lot of information just for this to have happened in the last week. Specifically the type of cancer. It was the fact that it's sensitive to hormones. I mean, these are extra tests that we run on the pathology specimen. So usually it takes several days to even over a week to get all of that information back. And the fact that, again, that they are. Then they did the bone imaging, they didn't say what they did or how they know that he has metastatic cancer to the bones, but they said he had it. Is this an assumption because they did a bone scan or a PET scan and they saw lesions in the bone, or did it go as far to actually confirming it by doing a bone biopsy, which, again, would take even more time. We don't have all the information. In fact, we have very little information. But what we do know is he has a very aggressive late stage prostate cancer. It didn't just start in the last week. It's probably been there for at least several months, maybe several years. And it's an unfortunate, tragic situation for the former president.
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Joe Getty
If you had been. Dr. Safire with us, Dr. Nicole Safire, now part of the Clay and Buck podcast network, if you had been his lead physician, like, let's just pretend that it's not Joe Biden himself, right? But you are the White House lead physician, and six months after he leaves your care after four years, as you being his lead physician, would you feel like you had failed him in some way for not picking up on this cancer? Like, as a doctor, would this be something where you thought, boy, I could have done a better job if. If this were as they seem to be saying the case that this thing did not reveal its until Friday. You had four years to be around him virtually every day. Would you be kicking yourself for missing this?
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Dr. Nicole Sapphire
The regret and wondering what you should have, could have done as a physician is something we live with every single day. The White House physician is essentially the primary care physician for the President of the United States. You have to assume that they are doing every single screening examination to make sure that they catch early signs of any sort of illness, anything that could incapacitate the President. The fact that several months after leaving White House, not only was he diagnosed with prostate cancer, but a late stage prostate cancer. Absolutely. As the primary care physician, I would be saying to myself, what did I miss? Because this isn't a rare cancer. Unfortunately. There are those cancers that we don't screen for because they are more rare, like a prostate cancer or a primary brain tumor. We don't screen from them because they're not very common. Prostate cancer is the second most common cancer in men secondary to skin cancer. So that is why we screen men for prostate cancer. If the White House physician was screening for colon cancer and for skin cancer and checking his cholesterol and everything else he was doing, I have to assume he was screening for prostate cancer. So the big question for me is did they intentionally omit those PSA results? Did they have an inclination, was there a diagnosis early on? The biggest thing for me that I have the big concerns with is the fact that they kept the cognitive decline. That was very obvious. That was deceitful because a cognitive evaluation should have been a part of that. And when people were questioning his cognitive ability, that's when he should have been able to do some of those mental status exams and make them public. They didn't do that. That was intentional. That was deceitful. When it comes to the prostate cancer, did they do the same thing? I don't know. I'm less convinced because I do see de novo cancers, especially aggressive ones like Gleason score 9s can happen very quickly and they can metastasize very quickly. So I am less inclined to think that there is a massive cover up when it came to prostate cancer. The same way that I feel for the caus cognitive decline. But it's, it's possible and I think that there are questions that we don't have the answers to.
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Clay Travis
Dr. Safar, to that end the, the medical ethics here, I'm curious about this. I feel like it would, you know, there's what's put forward for the public and as we know there's information about. This is not a normal thing. Right. A president puts forward, you know, information that would be HIPAA protected or whatever. Right. And that's just understood because it's a job that affects all of us. And so the health of the president is in many ways public information. But if you're the president's physician, and the president said, and you say, hey, look, I see something on this psa, it's a little bit weird. And the President of the United States says to the physician, the White House physician, yeah, I don't think we need to share this with anybody. What are the medical ethics here? I mean, what, what, how does that play out as you see it?
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Dr. Nicole Sapphire
I mean, that's a great question. Medical. Legally, as the physician, we are not supposed to speak publicly about someone's diagnoses if it's our if patient. Actually ethically, we're not supposed to really talk about their diagnosis, even if they're not our patient, because we're not supposed to draw conclusions without having done the workup. It is only a courtesy that they show us these annual physical examinations. That is not, you know, that is not right that the Americans, I mean, that's not in the law that they have to do that. We just liked this on paper where it says that our presidents are mentally and physically fit to do the job. It's a great thing, but really all it is is a feel good thing. And absolutely things can be omitted again. We saw with President Biden for four years, things were admitted. We called it out on that and they didn't do anything about it. So if he had gotten a diagnosis and maybe his trips to Delaware were to go for treatment, who knows what it was? Maybe that's why he spent so much time up in Delaware. The bottom line is we don't know. And if President Biden didn't want to disclose something, I don't think the White House physician is medically legally obligated to do so. His responsibility is to his patient. You have to remember, Lloyd Austin, former Defense Secretary, also had prostate cancer during the administration. And that was controversy as they. He did not disclose it. That was disclosed inadvertently because if you don't remember, he underwent surgery and then he was in the hospital. But they didn't even, they weren't forthcoming with us. They didn't even want us to know about that. We found out about that after the fact. So I don't know, it felt like a lot of things were being kept from the public with this last administration. And I wouldn't be surprised if some things were kept.
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Joe Getty
What's the prognosis going forward so far as you can tell, based on what they announced yesterday?
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Dr. Nicole Sapphire
Well, unfortunately, the two things that they really gave were kind of worst case scenario when it comes to prostate cancer. The gleason score of 9 is how aggressive the cancer is. If you're looking at the cells under microscope, that is scored on, how many cells are there, how active they are, how fast they're dividing, and that's scored from 2 to 10, 10 being the most aggressive, 2 being the least, 9, very aggressive, very fast acting. So this hasn't been lingering for seven to 10 years as some people have been saying? Absolutely not. Not with a gleason score of 9. It's very fast acting. So in that sense, it's worst case scenario, but also stage four, meaning that it's not only it's not just in the prostate gland, it's gone outside of the prostate gland and it's not even in like the local pelvic lymph nodes, it's gone farther out and in former President Biden's case, in his bones. So worst case scenario, when this is caught early, if you have a less aggressive prostate cancer, the five year survival approaches 100%. I mean, that's why we screen, that's why we detect early, because we have such a great survivability. Unfortunately, in former President Biden's case, that survivability at five years is markedly decreased with numbers ranging between 25 to 35% five year survival.
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Joe Getty
So the expectation would be that based on this diagnosis, just to close out with you, there would have been a strong likelihood that he might die in office with this cancer. If he were trying to serve all the way until January of 29, for instance.
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Dr. Nicole Sapphire
Well, I think at the age of 82, just he's already exceeding the expected life expectancy for an American man, especially one with cardiovascular disease and a history of heart disease. So I think the likelihood that he would have had some sort of cardiac event in the next four years is high. Maybe a cardiovascular disease like a stroke event. And now given the aggressive stage 4 prostate cancer and with the treatments, I think it's highly likely that his life expectancy, I'm not, you know, is significantly decreased and another term with under the presidency with that stress probably would have exacerbated his decline.
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Joe Getty
Dr. Nicole Safire, part of the Clay and Buck Podcast network. You do fabulous work. We appreciate you making the time for us on short notice and encourage people to go listen to your podcast.
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Dr. Nicole Sapphire
Thanks for having me on guys. We're certainly going to be covering it this week.
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
We're AR Strong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy.
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Clay Travis
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Jack Armstrong
We have a winner.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong and Yeti on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Jack Armstrong
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Joe Getty
No.
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Buck Sexton
It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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Jack Armstrong
And I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second, I'm going to ask.
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Buck Sexton
I'm Leon Naifak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Jack Armstrong
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Buck Sexton
To hear the whole story. Listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Joe Getty
Clay Travis, BUCK Sexton Show Appreciate Dr. Nicole Safire Breaking down everything surrounding the bide diagnosis. I want to hit a couple of different things here as well that have happened in the last few hours. Let me first do this one. There has been a according to multiple reports, Ashley Babbitt, the only person killed on January 6, the Trump administration has reached a wrongful death settlement with her estate and her family is going to receive $5 million. So that report out there, Ashley Babbitt, the only person who actually died on January 6, shot by a Capitol Hill police officer, there will be a $5 million settlement paid out to her estate, a wrongful death lawsuit that her family will receive also. And we'll probably need to dive into this in greater detail. Trump spent two hours on the phone with Vladimir Putin and he has posted how that call went from his perspective, a little bit of a, of a synopsis of it. He says it went well and he expects ceasefire negotiations to now accelerate. And so we will talk about that with you when we return as well. But both of those news stories breaking in the last 30 minutes or so. And we will fill you in in greater detail here when we come to back.
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Clay Travis
I mean, my sense of where things are going with Ukraine is Trump is going to have to turn the heat up on Vlad to get him to.
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Joe Getty
I think that's Right.
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Clay Travis
Faster. I don't think. I think that, you know, look, Vlad is testing him. We knew this would happen. We'll get back into this here in a moment. We want to properly set you up to protect yourself at home, to protect your family by having the right tools. And to do that, you've got to check out products from Sabre. They're the number one pepper spray brand, for example, trusted by law enforcement. Sabre is spelled S A B R E. We've got their products in our own home. Saber pepper spray projectile launchers, for example. The Saber pepper spray gel launcher is incredible. It's the best in class. The best you'll find out there. And this is so useful for a non lethal option to stop threats against you and your family. Saber is a family owned company, by the way. They've been at this for 50 years. They love what they do because it really matters to them. Clay and I know the CEO, we know their top executives, and they really believe in empowering all of you to protect yourselves and your family with the best non lethal tools on the market. Go to saberradio.com you'll save 15% there today. Sabre S A B R E radio.com or just call this number, 844-824-SAFE, 844-824 safe. All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. As we know, there was a call this earlier this morning, some news items to get today. We're so stacked with news that we're trying to get through as much as we can without leaving out anything critical here. Is it cool to have a doctor on the Clay and Buck network? By the way, that was so good. Yeah, he's like really, you know, excellent doctor. Anyway, I, I wanted to make sure we get you as much news as possible. You look like you've got a breaking. I can always tell by Clay's face if there's a breaking news item or if someone texted him something fun funny. While I'm in the is, which one is it? We have breaking news or is there a funny text?
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Joe Getty
Well, I mean, I, I think it's a little bit of breaking news. And I was trying to look this up because everything is AI now and you and I are live on the air. And so if I see things that are funny, I'm like, wait, is this really real? And it appears that this is really real based on all the different places being reported. I mean, it's a video, but JD Vance and his wife. Life gave the new Pope Leo the 14th a Chicago Bears jersey with his name on it. So if, if you had had. In the firmament of stories that you never expected to hear in your life. The Pope is a big Chicago Bear fan. The American Pope is a big Chicago Bear fan. And Vice President J.D. vance just gave him a Chicago Bears jersey with. With Pope Leo the 14th as the name on the jersey. I. I would never have believed this was real, but this guy is evidently a big Chicago area sports fan, and that video is out there and is pretty amazing. So I was just kind of laughing. It's just kind of a positive story amidst a lot of unfortunately negative stories. I mean, it's hard to have a serious, like, discussion with a cancer doctor about. About what. What's going on. So there's a big swing there. Positive story. It's out on social media if you want a little bit of a smile.
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Clay Travis
Duh, Bears, big team.
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Joe Getty
And his number buck is exactly duh. You can say duh, Pope right there is. His number on the Bears jersey is V14. So the Roman numeral for 14th is. It is very funny. Anyway, so congratulations to the Bears. Like this. This is. We have the American Pope, and he's going to be sitting around wondering. We talked with Jay Feely earlier whether or not the Bears are ever going to win a Super bowl again.
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Clay Travis
All right, now we're going to do another hard turn back to ending a war and preventing escalation with nuclear powers. Russia, Ukraine, the U.S. what's going on here? We have this was speaking of J.D. vance, Vice President Vance here, this cut 14, talking about what. What really matters. I mean, yes, having conversations with Putin is one thing, but they want to see results, play it.
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H
Look, the President's been very clear. This is not. The United States is not going to spin its wheels here. We want to see outcomes. And the first major outcome that we wanted to see, which we were glad about, is that we wanted the Russians, the Ukrainians to put a real peace proposal on the table. What would you need to do in order to stop fighting that happened? The second thing is they needed to agree to direct talks with one another. These sides hadn't talked in years. We thought that was a disgrace that has now happened. But now the talks have been proceeding for a while. We realize there's a bit of an impasse here, and I think the President's going to say to President Putin, look, are you serious? Are you real about this? Because the proposal from the United States has always been, look, there are a lot of economic benefits to thawing relations between Russia and the rest of the world, but you're not going to get those benefits if you keep on killing a lot of innocent people.
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Clay Travis
Look, I think this is the right, the right approach. I think the administration is, is on task here and doing what, what they can again. And I also think that Putin, you know, let's not, let's not assume that he's some kind of like Machiavellian genius or anything in international relations and negotiations. If he, I think the easiest way to put it, if he ticks Trump off and Trump gets the sense that Putin's playing games and making, and trying to make Trump look foolish on the world stage. He's. Now, I'm not saying, you know, obviously we're not going to land the 82nd Airborne in Moscow, but, but Trump has mentioned economic, really turning up the economic heat and making things increasingly uncomfortable for Vladimir Putin. And remember, Clay, there's what can publicly be done and talked about and there's also stuff behind the scenes that can go on that can turn up the heat against the Russians pretty dramatically. So we'll see. I just, if I was one of Putin's advisers, I wouldn't, I wouldn't test Trump. I wouldn't try with it.
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Joe Getty
Well, I think the other question is, and we don't know, I mean, obviously this is now the warm season where you're able to advance more substantially. What land are they thinking that they're going to get such that it is more advantageous to them not to go into cease fire negotiations now? Because I think the argument they're going to make is the border line is drawn based on where it is roughly right now, now, and that they are getting these provinces that they believe are a part of historical Russia more so than they are Ukraine. But how much more are they seeking to get right is the question that I think and to your point, Trump has actually been pretty aggressive with Putin. And for everybody out there who's tried to claim for 10 years now, oh, Trump is a Russian asset. I think some of the commentary that he's made about Putin is in many ways as aggressive or more aggressive than what Joe Biden is said.
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Clay Travis
Well, I think that Trump's approach on this, you know, I've just, I've seen him, we've seen him operating for a long time now, both as president, as a leader of the Republican Party during the Biden debacle administration, and then just as somebody in private life who's been, you know, involved in all kinds of private sector deals. And, and I think that Trump's approach to Putin, I get it, it's all right, let's. Let's sit down as men of respect. I don't know if you've seen the Sopranos, you've seen mobster movies. You know, when the leaders of the two families sit down, generally speaking, it's, you know, okay, let's try to, let's try to avoid escalation here. Let's be deferential. You know, you're doing good by your family, I'm doing good by my family. Let's figure out our territory here, kind of. And I think that's Trump's approach, right? He wants to create the opening for Putin to be. Be reasonable. I think Trump is very aware, though, that Putin may not be interested at all, actually, in a ceasefire or in. And seeing this through. And here's J.D. vance to that in this cut 15, saying, yeah, that's part of what this is. We're figuring out. Does this guy just want to grind this war on for years more because he thinks he'll get more play it?
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H
Look, I think one open question is, is Vladimir Putin serious about negotiating peace? Right. He has made some concessions. He has taken some serious, serious steps in these conversations. But we feel like, you know, we're at a point where we're hitting an impasse, and that's why the President is talking to him on the phone. And I think there's also just a little bit of, look, there's fundamental mistrust between Russia and the West. It's one of the things the President thinks is, frankly, stupid, that we should be able to move beyond the mistakes that have been made in the past. But that takes two to tango. I know the President's willing to do that, but if Russia is not willing to do that, then we're eventually just going to have to say, this is not our war. It's Joe Biden's war. It's Vladimir Putin's war. It's not our war.
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Clay Travis
Now, you know, they're looking at this with very, with very open eyes, right? That's the part of it that I think is. Is critical to take away from this clay, that there's not some, oh, we know we're dealing with somebody with Vladimir Putin who's going to make the decisions that seem logical or reasonable to us under the circumstances. No, Putin may want to see this thing all the way through. It's not our war, as JD Van said. So maybe then there's more economic sanction, maybe there's more, you know, there's more that he does diplomatically turn up the heat. But at Least then we can also stop wasting our breath with there is if there's no peace deal to be had. That's an important bit of information to know at this stage of this war.
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Joe Getty
I also think this ties in with something we've talked about the last couple of weeks that I've seen almost nobody else pointing out. The number one thing you could do at this point in time to weaken Vladimir Putin is what Trump is working to get done done. Lower the gas prices because so much. And this, by the way, works against Iran too. I was reading this morning, you know how bad things have gotten in Iran for energy Buck. They're now starting kids in school at 6am and ending school at 1pm and people are getting stranded in high rises all the time because they can't keep the electricity on. The Iranian government is crumbling economically. And that's why I think Trump's visit to the uae, to Saudi Arabia and to and to Qatar was so destructive to internal support for Iranian government. A lot of regular Iranians are looking around saying, wait a minute, Trump just visited these three Middle Eastern countries that are thriving, announced trillions of dollars in overall relationships on a commerce perspective. And we can't even get our kids to school in normal hours because we don't have the infrastructure to be able to produce the energy that we need in this country. And so I think that factors in the pressure on Putin grows because they're having to sell their oil on a black market and they have to undercut whatever the larger price of oil and gas. Everybody's missing this. That is actually a pretty strong move that Trump has put in place. Now, the other thing here, and I know you would think through this too, the advantage Trump has is neither of these wars happened on his watch. Nothing happened in Gaza on his watch. Ukraine didn't get invaded on his watch. He is trying to clean up the mess that Biden's weakness allowed to occur on the global stage. And so his incentive structure isn't. He's not the guy who's got the trillions of dollars on the table that he's already cost and sunk asset dollars. I think this happen unfortunately in Iraq where once you spend a lot of money, you don't want to acknowledge that you wasted it. So then you put more money in the pot and it just keeps piling up. Some of you out there that have ever tried to rehab a home know what I'm talking about? You, you're, you're halfway through and it's costing way more than you thought or try to Fix a business and your sunk cost leads you to sunk. Sink more dollars into that. I, I think that's what's on. Going, going on. It's a money pit. And I think Trump is looking at the money pit and saying, hey, this wasn't my mess. Let's just end it. I think that's a big part of the negotiation, too.
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Clay Travis
Ultimately, if Russia has more men, more material, and wants to pay a higher cost to take control of more land there, and we're not willing to fight their war for them, meaning the Ukrainians, which we are not, and Trump is very clear on that, that then there's only so much we can do. And this is part of, I think, Clay, the, you know, Ukraine flag brigade in this country, something that they haven't really thought about. Okay, well, what's the next stage? If we just keep sending the material and that we have and they're going to keep losing and there's no way it's going to turn around. What's the, what the strategies to just keep doing that?
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Is that really the idea is to just keep throwing, throwing more, you know, bad money after bad money, so to speak? Because we think that that's the right thing to do. That, you know, this is the American people's money, this is the taxpayers money, and we have our own wars in the future to hopefully avoid, but possibly to fight and to think about now because of the scale that it would require from us. And, you know, ultimately, the other part of this is Trump is trying to get an end to this conflict, to stop the carnage and to stabilize things. He is trying, but for, for a lot of people who look at this, I think is as just a function of the world is a messy and difficult place. It doesn't really change my life, yours or anyone's listening to this, whether the Russian Federation or Ukraine is in charge of Crimea. That's just the fact. I mean, there's no, there's no way around this. Right. And so how much are we supposed to keep. Care, the people who say we're supposed to care so much because otherwise Western Europe will fall. The tanks are going to roll through Berlin, the tanks are going to get through Paris. You know, the rut. First of all, that's insane. That's not going to happen. And if they feel that way, well, then they should be making the case that we should be landing US Troops and fighting the Ukrainians war for their territorial integrity with US Blood as well as treasure. And they won't do that because I think they know The American people. People are firmly against that idea. So if nothing else, it is forcing a realistic look at what is happening there. To have Trump. What was the Biden policy? First of all, how could we talk about a Biden policy? What does that even mean? Well, you know, what was. What was the Biden grand strategy? Remembering how to put his socks on in the morning.
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Joe Getty
I mean, really, in all seriousness, you can't. I talked about this last week.
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Dennis Black
Week.
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Joe Getty
You can't bind yourself to a contract when you are of unsound mind. How much of what Joe Biden himself was doing was actually defensible from a fully functional mind perspective? I mean, it's actually scary. I mean, certainly the pardons. I think you could challenge the pardons legitimately on the idea that Biden had no idea what he was doing. Doing. And. And I think that's one reason you're going to see such an aggressive attempt to cover up and have seen the dementia and the cancer and everything else surrounding him. And. And I just come back. We started the show with this, but Dr. Jill Biden is a monster.
- [38:19]
Clay Travis
I think Clay might hate Jill Biden more than he hates Fauci now. I think she actually may have taken the spot.
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Joe Getty
You know, I. It's. It's a. It's a. That's a tough. That's a tough. That's a great debate. Who is a worse person? Um, I don't think Foushee would have covered up his wife's cancer.
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Clay Travis
Ooh. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
I mean, it goes to Buck. I mean, honestly, it's kind of a deep question. Do you feel like you have more responsibility to your immediate family or the country? Foushee screwed the country. I don't know that he has turned his back on his. The health of his immediate family. Family. My position in general is, I think your number one responsibility is to your immediate family first and then the country. I mean, people may disagree with me on that perspective, but I think that makes me think Jill's worse than Fauci.
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Clay Travis
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Jack Armstrong
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry.
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Joe Getty
Angry.
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Jack Armstrong
You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Joe Getty
He's Joe Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
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Clay Travis
How about something about a comedic tone?
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Jack Armstrong
We have a winner. Yes. Listen to Armstrong. You get it on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal. Scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Jack Armstrong
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Joe Getty
No.
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Buck Sexton
It became known as the Iran Contra.
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Joe Getty
Affair and I'm not taking any more questions.
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Jack Armstrong
In just a second I'm going to ask.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Burn.
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Buck Sexton
In my podcast, Fiasco Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable deep details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Jack Armstrong
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane I can't begin to tell you.
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Clay Travis
Please do.
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Buck Sexton
To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your.
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Joe Getty
Podcast Podcasts Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show several different things to hit to close out the program today. Poll question up in honor of buck Sexton which doctor screwed the country more with their lies? Foushee or Dr. Jill Biden? Overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly Buck. The audience Disagreeing with me. Fouche8020 Screwing the country more Can I.
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Clay Travis
Just say, Clay, say it's nice to still be number one. There are many imitators and competitors, but they cannot ever reach the true totality of awfulness that the Fouch brought to the table.
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Joe Getty
Couple of other things that are out there, evidently, according to producer Greg I screwed up Roman Numerals xiv For those of you out there, I don't want to get the kids failing their Latin test. Pope Leo XIV, if I somehow screwed that up, he is the 14th and that is XIV in Roman numerals. And we want to say this. Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, one of the truly iconic comics out there that has ever existed, probably a lot of you have read it, announced on his show today that he also has serious stage 4 cancer and does does not expect to live any longer than the the summer. And he is a unbelievable, I would say, advocate for truth and we wish him well in his battle. Also, Flay Travis and Buck Sexton on.
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Clay Travis
The front lines of truth. The Sean Hannity show starts in minutes on 710 wo.
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Joe Getty
Israel is a special place both for those who are fortunate to visit the Holy Land and those who get to live there. Eighty years ago this month, the horror of the Holocaust, the Final Solution came to an end. Half of all living Holocaust survivors reside in Israel today, further testimony to just how special Israel is.
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Clay Travis
The pain of the past was only intensified by the attacks on October 7 and the rise in anti Semitism worldwide. The government of Israel does all they can, but so many Israelis today, both old and younger, live below below the poverty line. There's no safety net.
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Joe Getty
That's why we support the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. The Fellowship provides a lifeline in the form of hot meals and boxes full of healthy food. And for only $25 you can help provide a food box better yet $335 provides hot meals for an entire year.
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Clay Travis
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Jack Armstrong
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Clay Travis
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Jack Armstrong
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Clay Travis
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Dennis Black
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- [47:59]
Jack Armstrong
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
- [48:10]
Joe Getty
He's Joe Getty.
- [48:11]
Jack Armstrong
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring the you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
- [48:15]
Clay Travis
How about something about a comedic tone?
- [48:20]
Jack Armstrong
We have a winner. Yes. Listen to Armstrong. You get it on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [48:29]
Buck Sexton
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contrast.
- [48:41]
Jack Armstrong
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
- [48:46]
Clay Travis
Please do.
- [48:51]
Buck Sexton
To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [48:59]
Jack Armstrong
You're listening to an iHeart podcast.