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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show final hour of the week 14 hours up. We are working on hour number 15 now. Encourage you as always, go subscribe to the podcast on YouTube. Make sure that you do not miss us on all of the social media platforms and we thank all of you listening on nearly 600am FM stations nationwide as well as satellite radio. The podcast however you are finding us now, we thank you for doing so. Okay, as we head into the weekend, big story ongoing the US Iran talks in Pakistan scheduled to begin on Saturday. Artemis 2 going to land off the coast of San Diego. That is the week long plus moon navigation that took place starting last week. And Buck, we didn't really react to what we talked with our good buddy Ryan Garduski who is also a part of the Clay and Buck podcast network told us. But I do think it's it's worth here as we dive into hour three having a little bit of discussion about it. I was jotting down notes because this has been a widely discussed in some circles story, but by and large it's mostly getting ignored. The United States fertility rate has fallen according to the most recent data to 1.5 children per woman per woman. And, and that is relatively easy to explain because and the math is not crazy complicated. Women need to average 2.1 children in order to exceed replacement level. Again, the math on this is not crazy complicated. And that is not occurring. And it's not just happening in the United States. It is collapsing all around the world at many different elite Western civilization countries. Whether it is Japan which has North South Korea, whether it is Italy and now obviously the United States wherever and certainly much of Europe. If you look at France and if you look at at what's happening in England, all these different countries with great histories of civilization that have basic human rights, the population is collapsing. And I don't know if this is ever going to reverse, but if it does not, then humanity starts to decline in population buck really, really fast. China is a great example of this where they're saying by the end of this century, the Chinese population is going to go from around 1.4 billion ish, I believe where it is right now to about 650, 700 million. In other words, before the end of this century, China's going to have half the population that it does right now. There's reading a story this morning. Japan is having a huge issue with just abandoned homes in Japan right now. Huge numbers of homes because the population has collapsed to such an extent. They're just abandoned. Nobody lives there. The government will actually basically give you title to these homes to be able to live there. Is this, should we be talking about this more as a real significant issue and, and whether or how we fix it?
Buck Sexton
Well, yes, it's a hugely significant issue and there's a lot of factors that all come together and it's really a pretty new phenomenon in human and human history to have both so many women entering the workforce, delaying child childbearing. These very well off societies in the west and including democracies in the east like Japan and South Korea, where people aren't having enough kids. That's all very real. Elon, who is certainly a guy who sees the future well, recognizes this as I think the biggest challenge that humanity faces. The good news is there is a solution to it. And the solution is actually quite fun. In fact, in fact, and not only fun, I mean there's of course that part of it, but it's also very rewarding. And being a dad is like my favorite thing ever, as I'm sure it is for you, Clay, three times over. Being a dad is the absolute greatest. Being a mom, I'm sure is. I can't speak, I can't speak to it. You know, I can't identify as, as a mom, but I'm sure that's the same thing. You know what I think is going to actually be increasingly playing a role in this? There's already some data, you've seen little bits of this here and there. GLP drugs.
Clay Travis
Oh, this is an interesting thing, very
Buck Sexton
helpful because once you start taking that sweet, sweet sauce From Ozempic or Tirzapeptide or whatever, you drop those 30 or 40 pounds, you're sleeping better, you're feeling better, you're looking better, you might as well just throw on a little Barry White in the background. Can't get enough of your love, baby. You know, it starts really moving and grooving.
Clay Travis
People are going to get more frisky as they lose weight on the glps because this is funny. Body positivity was a big thing for what, 10 years. You know, they put in people in spandex who shouldn't be in spandex, like doing, you know, all sorts of body movement and they're like, hey, I feel great about being morbidly obese. And I was like, I don't know. That doesn't seem like a great thing. Body positivity has vanished. And as these GLP1s are becoming more and more affordable, people are dropping weight at a significant level. That's an interesting theory and it's going to make them in. In the mind of buck sex. Well, you know, there's more frisky.
Buck Sexton
There's actually a chemistry behind it too. For the guys out there, if your estrogen levels get too high, your estro, your estradiol, then your libido tends to, you know, if you have low T and high estrogen, it's all about balance. By the way, you need estrogen actually as a guy. But if your estrogen level gets high relative to your testosterone level, it'll affect libido and mood pretty drastically. And so because we also have a T, a testosterone crisis in the west, which people haven't really figured out yet. I think part of it is just, it's our, it's dietary, it's the toxic masculinity hate that men have been getting. There's a lot of things that come together there too. It's not a single factor analysis you can do. But Clay, biochemically you are more likely to want to get frisky if you are at a healthier weight is the bottom line, male and female. So GLPs are the most important health revolution of the 21st century, in my opinion. And also I think are going to help with the baby boom. There could be something of an Ozempic baby boom, if you will.
Clay Travis
This would be fantastic. Here's my concern. I think that by the way, you respect the barrier.
Buck Sexton
Barry White. Barry White. I mean if you're, if you're in the baby making mood, right. Barry White's what you got to throw off.
Clay Travis
Very, very, very, very positive. I would say. Here's my concern. And this is, it's, it almost is just a math equation. Just make it very logical. If the average woman, and I believe I'm correct in this is. So let's start with Point one. We would like to have children in marriage, right? In an ideal world. So I tell my kids, get married, have as many babies as you can, be a good dad, but you need to get married, right? So you want a dad and a mom both present. If we are having incredibly declining rates of marriage, and we are also simultaneously seeing marriage beginning for women. Now I'm focusing on women here because women have babies. We understand that biologically here we're not a left wing show. If women are not getting married until they're in their 30s, and this is now becoming the standard, right? The average man is over 30. The average woman increasingly is basically 30 years old. The math equation on this, Buck, just gets hard. And I we need to have more women on talking about this. But this is because then inevitably it's just like, well, you're a guy. You don't. It's way harder for women to have babies in their 30s than it is in their 20s. And if we are both simultaneously creating a world where the highest educated, most wealthy among us are not getting married until they're in their 30s, then you just get into a mathematical equation, right, where it takes longer than you expect. You're 33 when you have your first baby. The babies are first, especially first babies, as you've just learned, Buck, very changing to your lifestyle. And then you're like, okay, we got to figure out, do we have the time now to have baby number two? It takes a time. I just think the math on this. When you don't get married until after 30 on average, I think there are a lot of people that would be open to having baby two, baby three, baby one, that don't get in a position where the math adds up. Because a lot of women. Look, when you get into your upper 30s, what is it? A. Jerry, this is crazy, but it's
Buck Sexton
called a geriatric pregnancy. Once you hit 35, 35, which doesn't
Clay Travis
feel very old, that is, by the
Buck Sexton
way, that is officially, medically, that is not a point of contention. That is not a derogatory thing. That is. It is considered medically a geriatric pregnancy from 35.
Clay Travis
So do you.
Buck Sexton
I know because my wife had a geriatric pregnancy. So.
Clay Travis
So this is. I know because my assistant Katie, who has a couple of different babies, she was like, I couldn't believe it. They called me a geriatric pregnant woman because she was 35. I think when she had her second baby. I think it's just a math equation. And I think a lot of women out there And I don't know if it's going to happen. Are going to have to decide, hey, what's the most important thing to me? Is it having a baby or is it getting promoted to mid tier management in a job that frankly isn't that desirable of a job? And I think we have sold this again. People are gonna get mad at me over this. I think we have sold a lot of people a bill of goods. That your success in a major multinational corporation defines you more than your success as a parent. And I think you can speak to this now that you're a dad. I can certainly speak to it as a dad. Like success in life is great in professional career, but it pales in comparison to being a parent.
Buck Sexton
This is like a whole different show we're doing now, but I guess I'll just lean into it. A whole different show. Just in terms of how much content and discussion there can be about this stuff. One thing that I've seen from my female peers in New York City, meaning girls who I grew up with and are my age, a lot of them, I think feel very. They felt a little lied to by the culture that professional success at some level would make them desirable mates. We've kind of run that experiment. And the truth is the guy working as a gas station attendant and the CEO of the Fortune 100 company kind of looking for a lot of the same things.
Clay Travis
It's.
Buck Sexton
And it doesn't equate with being VP of the marketing firm. They don't care is the point. It doesn't actually affect your marketability the same way as it does in the dating marketplace. By the way. People can argue with me on this. All the data supports this. I was single a lot in New York City. I've seen a lot. I understand how these dynamics play out. That no matter whether. But what I was referring to, by the way, there's data that shows that whether you're making like $50,000 a year or, you know, $5 million a year, the top three professions that it's not that they don't want. People want educated. You know, they want an educated wife. They want somebody. But in terms of career stuff, nurse, pediatrician, school teacher, black guys, white guys, Hispanic. Go, go.
Clay Travis
There is all that would be a good moment. This is a job that you think a good mom would. Would have.
Buck Sexton
Yes. And so women who sacrifice. This is like the women that I went to Amherst with who went into investment banking, which has just horrendous and really abusive hours in your 20s, which you exchange for money. It's not worth it to gain £30 as a woman in your 20s and have your hair start to fall out, fall out from stress and anxiety and trying to do all this stuff because you're, you know, you're going to make like a slightly bigger bonus than if you took the job where you're actually doing something you want to do. And I think a lot of women have been lied to about that. Men will make those trips. By the way, Jordan Peterson's been hitting this for years and years. He's totally right. Men will make these trade offs like the guys listening to us who do the, the crazy like Arctic fishing thing off of Alaska and they make, you know, 80 grand in the six week season. I'm making up the numbers.
Clay Travis
But they, whatever it is, knocked into the ocean and die men make.
Buck Sexton
But they might freeze to death in the ocean. Yeah, exactly. They're playing with like big harpoons and hooks and stuff and Captain Ahab stuff. They do that knowing that they come home and they're a, you know, they're a more appealing provider. They got more money in the bank, all this sort of stuff. The economic incentives in mating are not the same for men and women is the bottom line. And women have been largely now, now there are going to be some guys who call in who watch Ms. Now and who are beta males who are like, I want a provider as well. I'm not saying you don't want a woman who has a job. I'm saying that people who sacrificed life for, for job who are women oftentimes because remember, the timelines are different. They look back at this now and they're like, no one told me. No, no one told me that mortgaging my 20s and deep into my 30s so that I could be on a super aggressive career track had real consequences for me that the men don't have. We can have kids in our 60s.
Clay Travis
This is the key. You can be a guy and say, I want to work 90 hours a week in my 20s and 30s and you can make, put yourself in a position where you're making a lot of money. And then at 45 you can decide, hey, you know what, I want to get married. And there are tons of, from frankly from 25 to you know, 35 year old women. You saw it all the time.
Buck Sexton
My date, my dating options once I hit 35 were more available than, than in my 20s by like, by like an order of magnitude.
Clay Travis
And so it is a. Biology is real. And I think again, when you don't get Married until your 30s. The math on not surprised, honestly, because I think the fulfillment you decide, hey, I had one. You're 36, 37. Two may or may not happen. And I do think it's a, it's a major issue going forward because the most educated, successful societies are having the least amount of children and that does not seem good. And by the way, the wealthiest societies
Buck Sexton
and by the way, they're importing a lot of people from societies where they're not educated and they're having a lot of kids. And there are social costs that come with that too because now you're creating a massive welfare state and there's, there's problems with that. So anyway, see, we got into a whole other conversation here. I might actually want to talk. Some sports coming up. That's right.
Clay Travis
We've got.
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Buck Sexton
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Clay, you're going to have to explain this to me on the flip side, okay? But I'm going to get to this now. This just popped up in my feed. I learned about the sports media from you because I didn't. I pay no attention to it, know nothing about it. This is from comedian Peter Ravello. I just think this is kind of fun we could have on a Friday. This. He did this on the, on the Tonight show on NBC. But this is a little bit he did on sports talk radio, which you used to do play 18.
Clay Travis
I'm going to therapy. And guys run from blue collar New York guys, they don't really do therapy. This is what they do. They call up sports talk radio. That's how they get it out. Vinny's calling about the Yankees, but it's not really about the Yankees. He calls up, he's like, mike, what's going on? Yankees doing it this year also. You ever get sad? You ever stare at the moon and wonder if the jets are staring at that same moon?
Buck Sexton
Clay, you used to do sports talk radio. Is it kind of like this for some guys?
Clay Travis
Oh, this is so perfect. Sports are so many men's emotional outlet.
Buck Sexton
Right.
Clay Travis
If you see a guy screaming at the television and trust me, I've been there a lot, it's not always just about what's going on on the screen. And Rush has a fantastic take on this. The team pulled this after we were joking and sharing this clip. We'll play it for you when we come back. No matter how safe you think your neighborhood is, there's always the chance you could fall victim to a home intrusion. A burglary. Statistics show it happens twice a minute on average, nationwide. And if you don't want to have a lethal option in the house, maybe you got young kids that are always snooping around. Maybe you got grandkids in the house and you want to have access to something that can protect you. But you also want to make sure that your kids and grandkids are safe and they don't end up messing around with your weapons. Your guns. Sabre can get you hooked up. They've got non lethal. These are non lethal options that are designed to help make sure that you're safe. You can get a 2 in 1 pepper light flashlight and pepper spray if you're outdoors walking at night, for instance. You can also get the seven shot pepper projectile launcher. It is amazing. We have every one of these products in our home. You can use them for the kids for the grandkids for yourself. Saberradio.com that's S-A-B-R-E radio.com get them all today. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. My awesome assistant Katie was listening. She says that geriactic pregnancy. She just texted me she was listening to the show. Buck. Now they're starting to move on from geriatric pregnancy because so many women were, I think rocked at the age of 35 by hearing that they were a geriatric pregnancy. They now call it in many places. Buck, this is advanced maternal age or AMA to try to make women less stunned, I think by the concept of a Jerry.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, I totally and I totally disagree with this. I think that they should let like people should know you should because it's a biological reality. This isn't about feelings. This is about with each passing year after 35, your risk of complications goes up. Your chances of getting pregnant goes down. Your chance of bringing the baby full term goes down. All of the people women need to know, my female friends that I grew up with, like I said in New York, so many of them were just lied to about this stuff. Lied to by the culture. Go be a girl boss. You have plenty of time. You have plenty of time. The guys are partying, you know, go, go to Tulum, Eat, pray, love your way through. Now I understand this may be a very specific thing to people in New York, Louisiana, D.C. boston, Chicago, but it's not a big time in all those places.
Clay Travis
I think it's very common for highly educated women. They are told that they can have it all and some, to be fair, are able to manage all of it better than others. But if you don't find the right person to your point, like you're hanging out with guys at 25 and 30 and 33 and 34 that can be able to do the fancy vacations and still have the high end success. But those guys might decide at 45, hey, I'm going to get married, I'm going to settle down, I'm going to have kids and that option is available to them. And you suddenly look around, you're 39 years old, you're in middle management, maybe you're making a decent salary, but I don't think it's that fulfilling. And I think a lot of women have been sold and then they look around and they. The 39 year old guy doesn't feel the same pressure that the 39 year old woman does. And here's the other reality, Buck. It's way harder for Women to date young, right? Way harder for 39 year old woman to find. First of all, men are morons in their twenties oftentimes and aren't that serious. So it's hard to find. Like let's say you're 39 and you want to date a 28 year old. 39 year old guy can date a lot of 28 year olds. Most 28 year old guys are not going to seriously date a 39 year old woman to stay with. So the math on this is different. We got a want to play this rush cut? Cause you played a funny clip as we went to break of how male sports talk radio is. Often before we get to the rush
Buck Sexton
cut though, I mean, have you had guys call it, they're like, Clay, I just want to say I love what's going on with Auburn. They're doing great. And you know, my wife and I are having problems. Like did you ever have to Dr. Phil the situation? Because yeah, you thought you were there to do sports analysis, but really someone just wanted to call in to chat.
Clay Travis
Look, this, this has to do with during COVID And I'm not claiming that sports talk radio is saving the world, far from it. But during COVID March, April, May, June 2020, I was doing nationwide sports talk radio for Fox Sports Radio leading into Dan Patrick and Colin Cowherd and sports shut down. Sports shutdown just didn't exist. For those of you who have forgotten, I know a lot of you imagine doing three hours a day of sports talk radio. March, April, May, June of 2020. To a large extent, my job then Buck, I really mean this was to be a therapist for people who are otherwise sports fans. Because a lot of people didn't get the opportunity to just sit at home and eat Cheetos and watch Netflix. A lot of guys, especially early in the morning, are up on the road, they're driving. And sports is their escape from the serious things in life, right? You got a wife who might be sick or not very happy with you. You got a mom and dad who might be aging. Sports is your escape, it is your sanity. And a lot of it is, I mean, I'm telling you, a lot of it is a emotional connection, which is
Buck Sexton
now, now I want to go back and listen to old Clay Travis shows just to hear some guy call in like, well, you know, I love Ohio State so much and like they're not playing. And Clay, tell me a story. You know, just like, Clay, tell me it's going to be okay.
Clay Travis
I'm telling you, Mark, you go Back. And you listen to a lot of those March, April, May and June shows. A lot of it was therapy for guys that were busting their ass and didn't have sports to be able to escape. And the world's falling down around them and they still got to be in that truck and they got to deliver that beer to a gas station or they got to still be, you know, showing up at their jobs when everybody, the higher end, your job was you just slept in, right? You're not waking up at 6am how many remember when like everybody was getting up at like 10am in the morning, they started to look at the data and nobody was waking up early in the morning who had, you know, working from home. Things changed enormously and a lot of people didn't get that opportunity and still had to go and work. No matter what is very important.
Buck Sexton
Being able to separate yourself from just the rudimentary routine that you're in on a day to day basis. Whether it's prayer, meditation. I'm actually doing yoga with Carrie after this. Yoga.
Clay Travis
Sports.
Buck Sexton
I find video games or me, Elon and I, I find video games are a super easy way to kind of.
Clay Travis
What does your wife think about video games?
Buck Sexton
I try not to play them. When she.
Clay Travis
I, I feel like women hate, women hate men playing video games. Sports. Like, they may not love you watching sports. They really hate walking in. I'm talking about like 20s and 30s.
Buck Sexton
I try to like slyly sort of just turn it off, like just checking to see if it still works, you know.
Clay Travis
But as in, as a general rule, women do not find it attractive for men to play video.
Buck Sexton
And we know when I'm like, when I'm like changing diapers and cleaning the kitchen, I get wifey walking around, you know, spandex and feeling great when she catches a little too much video games going on. All of a sudden, wifey's like triple XL sweatshirt, like Mrs. Doubtfire style out there. It's just, it's amazing how that happens.
Clay Travis
The young men, and I know we have some young men listening, just have this idea that, you know, they're going to have a girlfriend and she's going to be incredibly good looking and she's going to love playing Call of Duty with them, right? Like there's this, there's this young male fantasy. It's like we're just gonna, we're just gonna be like fighting World War II battles. And then when we're tired of fighting World War II battles on call of Duty, we're gonna make out and it's gonna be. Yeah, it's probably. And they sell them, right? They sell them on this idea because there's a couple of pretty girls, like, what was the Olivia Munn back in the days? Like, I love video games and Star wars and I'm gonna dress up like Princess Leia and we're just gonna play
Buck Sexton
like all the, all the Maxim magazine models. In the heyday of Maxim magazine, they would do some little interview. I like a guy with a little bit of a beer belly that I can hug and cuddle. It's like, sure you do. Sure you do. Olga the bikini model. Like, absolutely, yeah.
Clay Travis
Rush, coming back to this clip, when you shared that comedian's take, what was the comedian's name, by the way? Should we give him credit?
Buck Sexton
Did we give him credit again for it? I'll, I'll pull it up right now.
Clay Travis
Make sure we give him credit.
Buck Sexton
Peter Ravello doing his routine on the. But now I follow him. Cause, like, I just, I thought that was a really funny routine. He's got some other funny bits, too.
Clay Travis
Sports talker. This is one good thing about Instagram, by the way. Comedians have just taken off on the reels function if you find a couple of funny cuts, like, it's been phenomenal for them. But so that comedian talking about sports talk radio callers, Rush, obviously, as many of you know, was huge sports fan, was involved in sports for much of his career of a variety of different perspectives and fact. There was talk for a while that Rush was going to buy his own team because of the success he had with this radio program. But here is Rush talking about when he worked for the Kansas City Royals back in the day and what sports teams did and meant to people. I thought this was really interesting. Well done, pulled by the staff. This is from 2017, I believe. Cut 19.
Rush Limbaugh
One thing about sports fandom, I had a sociologist from Harvard once tell me that the, the great thing about sports, and I've, I've never forgotten this, folks. I was working for Kansas City Royals winter meetings one year in Scottsdale, Arizona. We had this Harvard sociologist and I said, what? My first reaction, are you kidding me? We've got some Ivy Leaguer coming down here trying to tell us added techniques on marketing our teams and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went. Well, it was mandatory. I went. And the guy said something that was actually one of those things that, when he said it, yeah, absolute wish you could have thought of it yourself. But you didn't. He said, the beauty of sports. Now, remember, all this is in the context of us who were in marketing and sales trying to expand the number of people that visit the ballpark or watch on tv and ways to exploit their fandom. He said, the unique thing about sports is the one thing you can invest total passion without consequence. He said, try that with a woman, or there were some women, he looked at them, said, try that with a man. And what he meant by that was, your team may lose and they may disappoint you, but your team will never try to take half of what you've got. Your team will never divorce, your team will never reject you. Your team will never, unless you throw beer on a player, they'll never kick you out of the place. But when interpersonal relationships, everybody, their first time, they get heartbreak or hurt, they're reserved after that. They don't want that to happen again. And so they do not invest their passion totally because there's consequence when you can. This is, this is the definition of uber fandom. Invest total passion without consequence.
Clay Travis
It's really kind of fascinating. And I mean, I think again, there are women who are sports Fans, you know, 25% of sports fandom, but for most die hard sports fans is male. And it is really kind of interesting to think through that. And many of you may be in your relationships with your dad or your brothers or your best friends. A huge portion of the conversations that I have with the men in my family is sports related. Right. The boys in my family still sports related. It's a form of love language for men that is not defined in that way. And I thought the comedian on the flip, on a funny side of it making that point and then Rush on a more serious side, kind of deconstructing the psychology behind it. Does make sense.
Buck Sexton
Well, it's important for people to be able to have conversations that, that share any kind of a common ground. Which I know you, this is why, and I have to take credit for this because it's true. It's an observation about Clay. And he admits it. He straight up trusts you and likes you more. If you're an SEC football fan, he's like, oh, I can give you the keys to my car. I can. You're like, you're a good dude or gal, you're a good person. You like SEC football. But being able to find common ground with people that you can share is, is very powerful. And it even reminds me of, I feel like I used to think that small talk was people. There's a lot of people say, I don't do small talk or small talks. Waste of time. Small talk is actually just about establishing the energy and the exchange between two people. It's kind of like, hey, I'm here, I'm a friendly and I'm hoping you're good and we're all good. And it's putting everyone at ease. Right. Small talk is not about the exchange of information. It's the exchange of energy that comes from it, or the intent, if you will, of the exchange, which is, hey, I'm happy to see you. You're happy to see me. I wish you well, you wish me well. And we're talking about the weather, because people don't really care to talk about the weather. But the point is establishing that commonality. And I see that a lot with the people who are sportsball fans.
Clay Travis
Yes. And by the way, you know what? That commonality often is lost in now phones because it used to be that you would have conversations with strangers more. Now what most of us do, and I do this too, is if you're standing in a line or if you're engaged in, you know, some activity, so many people look down at their phones and so you dial out of the circumstances and surroundings around you and your human interaction has now been translated into the phone. We've got a funny clip, somewhat funny.
Buck Sexton
It's.
Clay Travis
It's good for me from Kamala Harris that we will play out. That we will play. To close out the week for all of you sports.
Buck Sexton
Clay is going to spike the football early on his way out this weekend.
Clay Travis
We'll see if any of you are angry about anything that has been said during the course of the week as we get ready for the final segment. Just a reminder, Buck Sexton is the person that you're upset with. He's the. If you, if any women out there are angry over the discussion about birth rates and everything, Buck is the one that you're mad at. Just a reminder. And now you can take us into the break.
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Clay Travis
That'll be fun.
Buck Sexton
Jimmy Speed came a year ago tomorrow. So many of you were of course listening during that week. I think I was out for a couple of days or a day or two. I think I was back at work on Tuesday. And yeah, Jimmy Speed was, was born a year ago. He is the absolute most joyful, happy little guy in the world. I occasionally post him smiling, giggling or laughing on Instagram So go follow at Puck Sexton on Instagram if you want, because that's. Now, though, Clay. If I. People are just like, I just need more Jimmy Speed. Or I call him Jimmy Speed. Speed is his name. James Speed. But they're like, I just want more speed photos. Like, we need to see your face, Buck. I'm like, all right, fair enough.
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
I get it.
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
With his grandma, his mom, my brother, so his uncles. We're going to do a little family gathering for him and just give him access to a cake. I mean, he is going to. He is going to tear that thing up in the first three seconds. He's gotten to that point now where you know, he's got more motor skills and strength than. Than wisdom. And he. He just makes a. His ginger spice. The dog. She. Our dog, she now waits at his. The bottom of his high chair, just knowing that a bounty of delicious goodness is on the way because he'll just. He eats something, and then half of it ends up getting thrown like a baseball onto the floor. And that's just the way it is. So there you go. You want to do Dina from Green from Cleveland.
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
You can save Kamala for Monday. You can. You can do your little thing on.
Clay Travis
I will save Kamala for Monday. Who knows what the news will be. You hit the. The talkbacks. Just know that Buck has got to start saving up for another big steak dinner. And we'll tease that for Monday.
Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Very many, very few women love watching their boyfriends play video games. But he found one. Congrats. We'll be back Monday.
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Episode: Hour 3 - Dude Therapy and Sports
Date: April 10, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
In this engaging and wide-ranging final hour of the week, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton mix humor and insight in tackling societal shifts—most notably America’s plummeting fertility rate, evolving gender norms in work and relationships, and how sports and hobbies serve as much-needed therapeutic outlets for men. There's a deep-dive into the cultural and biological roots of falling birth rates, the impact of modern lifestyle and medication trends, and an exploration of why sports talk radio has become a kind of "dude therapy." Interspersed throughout are entertaining sidebars on sports fandom, relationships, and the shifting emotional dynamics of men and women in contemporary society.
Timestamps: 03:05–18:32
Current Crisis: Clay opens with the stark statistic that the U.S. fertility rate has fallen to 1.5 children per woman—even further below the 2.1 needed for population replacement.
Global Phenomenon: This decline is a shared issue across developed nations, notably in Japan, South Korea, Italy, England, and France leading to abandoned homes and “ghost towns.”
Why it’s Happening:
Consequences:
Timestamps: 07:56–10:07
Buck's Theory: Drugs like Ozempic and similar GLP-1 agonists are fundamentally shifting physical health—more people feel better, more confident, “more frisky,” and this could nudge up birth rates.
Discussed biochemistry of libido, healthier weights, and how cultural messaging on “body positivity” is fading as weight loss drugs catch on.
Timestamps: 10:07–18:32 | 25:41–28:00
Societal Messaging: The hosts argue that highly-educated women have been told “you can have it all”—resulting in many delaying or sacrificing having families for career milestones that might not bring lasting fulfillment.
Double Standards & Reality:
Aging & Dating: As women age, the dating pool narrows, and men’s ability to date younger remains relatively robust.
Timestamps: 22:41–36:40
Via a comedian’s routine (Peter Ravello), they riff on how male sports fans use sports talk as “therapy”—venting and forging community.
Rush Limbaugh’s Reflection: (Clip played at 33:53) Sports allow “total passion without consequence”—unlike relationships, sports teams won’t abandon you.
During tough times (like COVID), sports talk became a vital emotional outlet for men whose “primary escape” was suddenly gone.
Timestamps: 30:33–32:56 | 45:56–46:29
Timestamps: 36:40–38:31
Timestamps: 43:46–45:41; 44:07–45:41
This episode of Clay & Buck deftly weaves cultural critique, scientific speculation, and humor. The hosts push listeners to confront uncomfortable societal truths—about the future of the American family, the limitations of modern feminist narratives, and the deep-seated emotional needs that sports and hobbies can fill for men. With respectful candor and a light-hearted touch, the hour embodies the show’s unique blend of “intelligence and humor,” leaving listeners with food for thought and a few good laughs.
For further entertainment: The episode also features a fun Peter Ravello comedy bit (23:05) on “dude therapy” via sports talk radio, a Rush Limbaugh insight (33:53) on sports as safe emotional investment, and a memorable listener call (45:56) from a self-described “unicorn” woman who enjoys video games with her boyfriend.