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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
The next day he just showed up like it never happened. And so.
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Clay Travis
Right. Move.
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Joe Getty
I feel like Elon now after his meltdown last week, was it Thursday, Wednesday, whatever it was last week you were on. I was not on. I think it was Thursday afternoon.
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Clay Travis
If I'm not mistaken, the meltdown happened more after we had finished the show that day.
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
So There was about 20 and then I was off, I think the next day. So there was a little, a little cool down period. Yes, because it was really, look, it was the, it was the Epstein tweet that everybody was like, what is going on here? You know, that was. It's what you want to be upset over.
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Joe Getty
The bill. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
But the Epstein thing and, and the reason I think that that actually was clarifying very quickly was no, no serious person believes that if there was any kind of they're there about Epstein and Trump, that the Biden DOJ would have.
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Joe Getty
Sat on it for four years.
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Clay Travis
I mean, they were manufacturing crimes against Trump. There's no. So it just wasn't credible at all. But it was what somebody who was just upset and childish and hurt in the moment would say to somebody. I should say it's even beyond that. But it's, it just came across very quickly as just trying to be nasty and not actually dealing with anything based in reality. So that's why it was pretty easy to be like, all right, he's going to come back from this and apologize.
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Joe Getty
It just felt like he was having a public temper tantrum. And now it is quite clear that that's what he did. And he has apologized both to Trump privately and to Trump publicly for what happened last week. So that is officially on some level a finished story. And I think you could predict both that Elon was going to get burned out on government and also at some point lash out and also predict that eventually they would have some sort of reproach.
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Clay Travis
Can I throw something else into the mix that I meant to mention at the top of the show? This is another news item not particularly important, not along the line of the big issues we've been talking about, but it does go toward the media and its sense of what it really is right now, the news media. So they've. ABC News has fired senior national correspondent Terry Moran after his expo.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, we didn't talk about that.
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Clay Travis
Here's the thing. What he wrote about Miller, of course it was gross, it was dumb. But my problem is with anyone thinking that ABC News should get away with pretending that it's still a news organization without political bias. Like, I just refuse to play this game anymore. So the fact that they're firing somebody for violating standards of bias, more so than it's not about professional conduct, really. It's, oh, you showed everybody that you hate the administration, and that's not okay. Everybody at ABC News hates this administration. Everybody who's an executive over there wants to see Trump get attacked on their channel night in and night out. So I just don't like this pretense. I want to. I have a kind of a different take on it than a lot of people because I don't operate in this world where, oh, ABC News is actually trying to be fair and trying to be honest with the. Of course they're not right. So it would be like imagine CNN firing an anchor for not liking Trump. Oh, you don't like Trump.
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Joe Getty
I've got an even more subterfuge subterranean theory on this. I don't think Terry Moran is that big of a moron to put up that post and not think there are consequences. But Buck, if you read that that statement, they didn't actually fire him. They're just not re upping his contract. I think he got told that they were not re upping him and or got offered way less money. And he was angry at ABC News and he knew if he lashed out, that might make him a hero on the left and look like he was a martyr for free speech, which helps him going out into the marketplace. So I actually think this was strategic. We know right now in many of these television networks, many of these guys and gals that you see on television have made tons of money. And now as the cable and satellite bundle is starting to collapse, guys and gals are getting offers that are way less wherever they work. And I think they came to Terry, this is my theory. I think ABC News came to Terry Moran and they said, Terry, you're making, I don't know, what do you think you make? 7 million, 5 million, something like, whatever, something like that. And they said, hey, we're actually only going to pay you a million and a half going forward. And he lashed out. He was like, what are you talking about? I'm the senior news column, whatever the heck his title is.
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Clay Travis
Senior National Correspondent Clay Senior.
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Joe Getty
You know, like, nobody knows who this guy is. It doesn't matter at all if he has a job.
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Clay Travis
I did not recall his name from before this. So.
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Joe Getty
So I think that he decided to lash out and he knew that they weren't re upping.
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Clay Travis
But where does he go?
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Joe Getty
Who takes a. Do some podcast or he's going to try to argue to MSNBC that he's a hero of the resistance now maybe.
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Clay Travis
If he's their choice to let him go. Also, he doesn't have any on the beach, period, so to speak, where he can't go work somewhere else. And we're getting really deep into this now.
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Joe Getty
But I don't, I don't buy. I guess what I'm saying is I agree with you that it's both ABC.
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Clay Travis
News preposterous that ABC News acts like they don't hate Trump.
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Joe Getty
It's, it's ludicrous. But also, I don't. Like some people have been saying, oh, well, he didn't know what the consequences would be on this. I don't think that's true. I think this is a calculated decision by him that he thinks makes him more marketable going forward because now he's the resistance and he's a martyr. And if they had just decided, hey, we're not re upping you, nobody would have even noticed. Like, if Terry Moran's not working at ABC News, would we have ever mentioned his name?
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Clay Travis
I actually think, I think he's dumber than you're giving him credit for. Or rather, I think he's less intelligent than you're assuming based on this assessment.
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Joe Getty
That's just such a weird thing to decide to do, to attack Stephen Miller in a way that's way over the top. Even for ABC News. It feels like it was calculated on his part. Maybe he's just a total moron. And there's certainly always arguments for people are, are morons. But guys like that, the sniveling cowards, it seems to me, are always good at preserving their jobs. And so I don't think he would risk his job over principal in Any way. And so this feels to me like ABC News quietly told him, hey, either we're going to pay you a lot less or you're leaving.
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Clay Travis
Who is the guy who did the big famous Princess Diana interview? I think he got fired from msnbc.
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Joe Getty
Martin.
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Clay Travis
Martin Bashir. Yeah. I think. Right. He was fired from MSNBC for going on a just grotesque and profane rant over at msnbc. I don't think, you know, sometimes he's got clay, sometimes the Lib is just an idiot.
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Joe Getty
Well, maybe so, but I think if we'll see what happens with Terry Moran. But it does not appear that, that he's going to be back at ABC News. And there is some element here, I will say of. It appears to me a lot of the abc, NBC, cbs, cnn, MSNBC universe, the larger corporate sphere, not the actual journalist in quotation marks, not the actual journalist, but the larger corporate sphere. It does feel to me like they are trying to be somewhat on the corporate level, fairer. In other words, there's been the report out on ABC News that Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, went to the.
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Clay Travis
View and said, hey, stop being insane.
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Joe Getty
Yes.
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Clay Travis
Yes. Stop saying Trump is actually Hitler. Yes. Not like Hitler, actually Hitler. The reincarnation of Hitler are crazy.
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Joe Getty
Stop forcing us to apologize publicly for defamatory state. I love.
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Clay Travis
I miss it. I miss the Sunny Hostin hostage video she had to make. She was like, just to be clear, Donald Trump has never actually been found guilty of any sexual crime. It's like, that's right, Sonny. Look right into the camera. Let's say it again so a few more times.
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Joe Getty
I think that that probably factors in here. And also, let me just. I can't believe I'm going to defend Terry Moran. He shouldn't have sent that tweet. Obviously, we like Stephen Miller, but I also don't like the precedent of firing people for sharing their real opinion.
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Clay Travis
That's part of what I mean. I just think the whole thing from ABC News is so dishonest and it's because they're clinging to the overall fiction. It is a lie. It is a falsehood that ABC News is a nonpartisan or unbiased news organization. I don't want to give them that even fig leaf anymore. I refuse to play. It's like with cnn. We're all past that. Yeah, right. Cnn, everyone got msnbc. Yeah, they're communists, but at least they know they're communists.
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Joe Getty
And by the way, I would say this in general, I think we defended Whoopi when she got suspended. Did We, I think so.
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Clay Travis
We're so nice, but we're generous.
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Joe Getty
If you're on a show, she gets to spell.
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Clay Travis
Was it for saying the Jews aren't a race or wasn't that stupid? Yeah, something like, like I think she wasn't, it wasn't ethnic. Jews weren't, I think what she said is Jews weren't targeted for their ethnicity or something like that.
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Joe Getty
It was stupid.
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Clay Travis
In the death camps or for World War II.
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Joe Getty
It was stupid. But she's on a show called the View. If one of us says something stupid, which I'd like to think doesn't happen very often, but some of you may say, hey, you say stupid things all the time.
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Clay Travis
Some of them aren't buying your wnba. I'm going to beat one on one. I'm just telling you. So there's some, there's some harsh words being thrown around.
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Joe Getty
I don't think on a show that exists for you to share your opinion, which is actually called the View. There should be a diversity of views on the View, but I don't think if one of them is a moron that they should be fired or suspended for being a moron on an opinion based show. I want more speech. So on the Terry Moran thing, yes. He's supposed to be a news like neutral guy. All he did is, is remove the artifice that he's unbiased. He actually said what he believed.
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Clay Travis
That's what I mean, we all knew that he thought this before just based on the fact that he's some, he's some guy who works at ABC News. So it doesn't, doesn't surprise me at all. Remember what, you know, John Harwood? Remember that guy who hosted a presidential debate a while ago and was very hostile toward Trump and ever now he's on Twitter. Look, the collapse. He's on Twitter showing how much he hates Trump all the time. The collapse of this, of this fraud, which is the unbiased news media. People say, oh, what about you guys? We, all we do is share opinions. Yeah, there's, there's no part of me, I don't sit here, I'm like, hey, this thing happened in California, Clay, with these riots. I don't have an opinion on it, but let's talk. We are opinions. Everyone knows where we come from on absolutely everything. It's the only honest way to approach news. This whole thing, I try to tell people this, the beginning of the republic. Go back the newspapers, you know, Benjamin Bach, American Aurora, you know, the, the all try to think of like the, from the dawn of the. The earliest newspapers, they were explicitly affiliated with political parties and with candidates. They.
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Joe Getty
They were.
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Clay Travis
Everybody knew, you know, you were a Federalist or an anti Federalist or you were a Democrat or a Republican. And then in the 20th century, with mass media and maybe the dumbing down of media at some level, there was this, oh, we're all just the news. It's just.
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Joe Getty
Well, I wrote about this a lot because I do think it's super important what you're laying out. Claiming that you're nonpartisan as a newspaper is just a business strategy to allow you to have the biggest possible audience.
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Clay Travis
But it only works, I think, if people believe at some level that what you're doing is. You have to play it close enough to the line that it's plausible now. And I think that some of them did that for a while, which was confused with being unbiased. They weren't unbiased there, by the way. This is the Jake Tapper routine, trying to be just unbiased enough that you can claim you're unbiased and not have people laugh in your face. I think his routine has fallen apart, by the way. But that is what they used to do. And then in the era of social media, because of stuff like Terry Moran's tweet, we all see this for what it is now, by the way, radio.
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Joe Getty
TV complicated this to a large extent because the platforms reached everyone. And so, I mean, for instance, they were so concerned that somebody like us would end up President of the United States that we couldn't run for political office and do this show or a senator or a governor because of FCC license rules. But meanwhile, you can do now do any podcast that you want.
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Clay Travis
Yeah. Which is ridiculous.
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Joe Getty
Which is. I mean, like the whole concept. Or you can write a book. Let's play. What did Whoopi Goldberg got? Yeah, well, we'll find that.
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Clay Travis
No, we don't have it. We just have.
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Joe Getty
No, no, no. But we've got the play Terry Moran. It's a. Just interviewed Trump on April 29 and got into a back and forth because they were trying. Let's play that when we come back, because I'll do this read here, and I don't want to blow through the comment, but we got a couple of cuts to remind you guys. It was only like six weeks ago that Terry Moran was sitting in the Oval Office claiming that he was an unbiased member of the news media interviewing Donald Trump and arguing with him about Ms. 13 tattoos. We played that on the cut for you. But Just a reminder because most of you probably have no idea who this moron is. Moran summer officially starts 10 days from now and we've been enjoying great weather up here in D.C. remember how cold it was back in January? God, it was brutal up here for the inauguration. Last time, most of us, the two of us were up here on the team. But it's also the case that this is crazy weather season. That is there's tons of thunderstorms rolling through all over the country and that can lead to your gutters getting clogged and bringing down branches, bringing down leaves also. Then the downpour comes in and you think for a minute, hey, wait a minute, my gutters aren't working like they're supposed to. That's why you need Leaffilter, America's number one gutter and gutter protection company. You can get 30% off your entire order. Go to leaffilter.com ClaygetStarted Today Leaffilter's trusted pros will clean out, realign, seal your gutters before installing Leaffilters. Award winning patented technology trusted by over a million homeowners. Great. Father's Day Sunday buck. Your first ever Father's day. Give dad the gift of not having to do the chore of cleaning out the gutters. Schedule your free Inspection up to 30% off your entire purchase at leaffilter.com Clay that's L E A F filter.com Clay See your representative for warranty details. Leaffilter.com Clay.
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Clay Travis
How about something about a comedic tone?
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Clay Travis
Coming up in a couple of minutes, we will be Talking to Trisha McLaughlin, Assistant Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, about the LA riots and the possibility of those riots spreading to other places. And we shall dive into all of that. But Clay had mentioned this. We had the team pull it. Terry Moran just got let go. Non renewed, I think is actually a better. They're saying fired, but it's really non renewed on his contract. I believe Clay.
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Joe Getty
That's right.
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Clay Travis
Your point? And here he was back in April of this year. So not back very well.
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Joe Getty
April.
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Clay Travis
Just like six weeks ago, end of April. Well, we got two of these. Let's do. Let's do 32 here. Play it.
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Trisha McLaughlin
I think he's going to be a very good defense. Hopefully a great defense secretary, but he'll be a very good defense secretary. You have 100% confidence in. I don't have 100% confidence in anything. Okay, anything. Do I have 100%? It's a stupid question. Look, it's a pretty important position. I have. No, no, no. You don't have 100%. Only a liar would say, I have 100% confidence. I don't have 100% confidence that we're going to finish this interview.
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Clay Travis
That's one of my favorite Trump moments from earlier this year. Now I actually remember who this guy is. He was the one who Trump was like, I gave you this interview. You're a loser, and you're being a loser in the interview as I knew you would be like that was what happened.
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Joe Getty
Well which is why I think this had to be. You may be right. There's always an argument on the left wing that these guys are such morons that they don't even comprehend the consequences of their actions. I think ABC News made him an insulting offer in his mind to continue. And I think he said I'm going to go out in a blaze of glory. They're going to suspend me and then I'll be a martyr and I'll go to MSNBC or I'll go to cnn.
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Clay Travis
You know who I think there's very few people in the world who there's a bigger gap between their talent and their self regard than highly paid traditional news anchors.
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Joe Getty
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Clay Travis
An unk?
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Joe Getty
Yep. Slaying evidently. For not being hip, being an old dude.
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Clay Travis
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Joe Getty
We are joined now by Trisha McLaughlin who is doing fabulous work inside of the Trump administration and in fact she is the Assistant Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. Obviously a lot going on there. Trisha when you watch the footage, and I'm sure you're watching it on Fox News or cnn, of the protest inside of la, what's your thought? What are you thinking as you're watching that?
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Karen Bass
I mean, I'm thinking multiple things. First of all, I'm so disgusted by these riders, which Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom continue to call peaceful protest. But I'm also so proud of our law enforcement in the face of such hatred, in the face of taunting, in the face of violence, they're being pummeled by rocks. They are so patriotic and professional and stand with such dignity. And I think all Americans can be so proud of them.
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Clay Travis
Trisha, I appreciate you being with us. When are we going to be able to get some data? Is it really just collected on a monthly basis on the actual numbers of people that have been taken into custody and then deported under these operations, like the one that got these rioters so riled up in Los Angeles? Because I think that that data speaks to the speed with which the administration is moving and the seriousness with which they are approaching this effort.
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Karen Bass
Yeah, absolutely. So we're north of 300 in the last 72 hours for arrest of criminal illegal aliens. So that includes child molesters, rapists, convicted murderers, arsonists, multiple gang members. These are the heinous individuals that Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass and the ACLU and these rioters are trying to protect as our ICE enforcement officers are putting themselves in harm's way to get these criminal legal aliens off of our streets. And our message to protesters is we're only going to ramp up. We are going to keep going. We're not going to be deterred by their violence, and you'll only see arrest numbers spike.
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Joe Getty
It seems that the overwhelming majority I've been looking at the polling supports the idea of what President Trump and your department are doing, which is arresting people who shouldn't be here, particularly violent predators, and getting them outside of the country. What is Gavin Newsom just already running for president in your mind? I mean, he's already a failed governor of California. We know Karen Bass is a failed mayor. President's had to travel out there to talk about the need to allow people to rebuild all over the LA area for the wildfires that took down their homes. It seems crazy to me that this would be the decision of the Democrat Party, but I'm looking right now. I don't know if you've seen this yet, but there is a new poll out showing the Democrat Party approval rating. This is from Quinnipiac, the Democrat party has a 21% approval rating, a 70% disapproval rating. This just came out. They seem to just be intent on opposing whatever Trump does, even if what President Trump is doing is wildly popular.
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Karen Bass
Yeah, I think you're exactly right. They are desperate for a message. They don't have one. They're just trying to work the same tricks and the same message that they did in 2020 and 2024. Their message has been Trump bad and January 6th bad. It's been five years, guys. And the American people love Donald Trump. They don't have a message and they're really doubling down on protecting these criminal, illegal aliens when we know we have the will of the American people. Donald Trump ran on mass deportations and getting these criminal legal aliens off of our streets, and that's exactly what he's delivering. So I think there's some derangement syndrome going on for sure. And Gavin Newsom is doubling down on incompetent governance. And I think that the polls are going to not look so great for him if he does decide to run in a Democrat primary.
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Clay Travis
Trisha McLaughlin, thank you so much for being with us from DHS. We'll let you rest up. That voice.
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Karen Bass
I appreciate. We're working hard.
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Clay Travis
Thank you. Thanks for what you're doing, Clay. You know, I asked about the numbers now I'm seeing here, actually. Caroline Levitt addressed this from the podium in the White House just in the last hour, too. 330 illegal aliens arrested after they participated in the LA riots. 113 of them had prior criminal convictions. You have illegal aliens with prior criminal convictions engaged in criminal riot behavior at the efforts to deport illegal aliens. This is. This is now the level of spoiled brattiness, I think, that we see among some of these illegal aliens. That's one way of putting it. The entitlement. There we go. Better word. The entitlement among these illegal aliens. And Caroline also addressed from the press. You know, I like this, too. And taking a page out of. Out of Trump's book, this is cut 30. The White House press secretary, Levitt, when she's asked whether Trump supports peaceful protests. Play 30. So if there were peaceful protests on.
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Karen Bass
Saturday for the military parade, President Trump would allow that.
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Joe Getty
Of course, the President. President supports peaceful protests. What a stupid question.
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Clay Travis
Perfect way to handle that. I mean, you know, this is almost a when do you stop beating your wife question. It's like, ooh, does the President actually believe the First Amendment matters at all? You know, I will say that the press corps, Clay, in a different Era. The White House press corps, I think, would have felt like this was their moment to grandstand and make all these windy speeches about how horrible it is to be deporting the illegal immigrants who are the, you know, the salt of the earth Americans that we need in the future or whatever. And now they recognize that they don't have the COVID from the institutions that they represent, the news agencies, and that they don't have a Democrat party waiting to back them up in the public, you know, in the public sphere, public debate. So they're a little more timid than they have been in previous administrations.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. And look, I mean that, that poll that I just shared with you from Quinnipiac, it's important to note Quinnipiac is not. Republicans are awesome.com pollsters. They're somewhat of a middle of the road, if even a little bit left leaning poll group. And when you're talking about Democrats consistently taking 20 and 25% popularity issues, I really feel like we are in an era right now where in the wake of 1980, 1984. Let me make my historical argument here. You can tell me if I'm crazy on this. In many ways, Jimmy Carter was an accidental president brought on by Watergate because Watergate happened. Jimmy Carter got elected, inflation skyrocketed, he was an economic disaster. Ronald Reagan came in and, and Republicans won in 80, 84, 88. And then Bill Clinton basically in 92 with Ross Perot running, ran as a sort of new Democrat. Now, you can argue about whatever you want about Democrats in 92, but 92 and in 96, Clinton ran as what would now be like Bill Clinton, 92 and Bill Clinton 96. Leave away the sexual shenanigans with the intern for a moment and just look at what he ended up working on. Once he got wrecked in 94, he really ran.
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Clay Travis
He.
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Joe Getty
That would be a Republican platform now. Then Bush wins 2000, 2008, 2004 again. Okay, my point on that is Biden is Carter. Biden is Jimmy Carter. The only reason he got elected was Covid and they were able to hide him. Trump would have won, I think a landslide against Biden in 2020. And some of you are saying, Clay, he did. Okay, I get you. But the reason they were able to do all of the rigging, the reason they were able to get all of the absentee ballots, the mail ballots, 81.3 million should be a joke for everybody out there. Okay? Come on.
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Clay Travis
I wouldn't say that Bill Clinton ran on a Republican platform. Less insane.
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Joe Getty
I'm saying his platform 92 and 96.
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Clay Travis
Now, I mean, pro is pro choice. Assault weapons ban. There's a.
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Joe Getty
But he said abortion should be safe, legal and rare. He balanced the budget. Like, go back and look at it. That today in many ways would be a.
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Clay Travis
Well, the gay marriage issue, for example, is very different then. So I think he signed the Defense of Marriage Act. Right. So that was just because the country was decidedly on that was a Democrat, Democrat and Republican issue. So the country has moved, or at least the Democrat.
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Joe Getty
My point is the Democrat Party, Bill Clinton said we have to redefine what the Democrat Party is. Now, you can dispute how much he redefined it, but there was a recognition that the Democrat brand was toxic and they lost every election, effectively.
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Clay Travis
Well, he only won because of the act Perot. So he won with less than 50% of the vote. And then he had a Republican Congress to contend with. So what was he going to do? Nothing.
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Joe Getty
Well, I mean, he tried. We knew he did some stuff in 94. He got absolutely crushed. And we had Newt Gingrich on. We've talked about that before with him. My point on it is I think the Republican brand, sorry, the Democrat brand is toxic. And I think it's the most toxic with young men. They actually use as an insult. Now, the idea that you might be a Kamala voter.
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Clay Travis
I just, I remember what it was like being a Republican in 2009 after Obama absolutely wiped the floor with war hero John McCain. And we were all sitting around saying the demographics are against us. This is against us. I bring this up because, yes, right now, the brand and the messaging is toxic. Clay Kamala gets 250,000 votes in a few places, and all of a sudden Kamala Harris, who is, I think, certainly the dumbest person to run for president in our lifetime.
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Joe Getty
Yep.
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Clay Travis
Kamala Harris would have been president. And it wasn't that far. Even with the lie about Biden's dementia, the disasters. So, you know, right now it looks really good. But this is why Trump. This is the year, man. This is. And he's doing it. He's doing it. This is not a complaint. But running up the scoreboard and getting as much done and as much accomplished as possible. Now, before the midterms. Before the midterms and before we start thinking about the next, you really have 18 months. Trump has 18 months to save the country. And I think he's moving as fast as he can on that. But a part of this is that all you need are Democrats to start coming up with some more compelling messaging on healthcare. Some of these things that haven't really. And that gap that Kamala is just a horrible candidate.
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Joe Getty
I get it.
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Clay Travis
If they ran somebody who was even a halfway decent candidate, I still think Trump would have won. But the next time around, if you voted for Kamala in this last election, you will vote Democrat no matter what Democrat. You could put like, you know, any name on a screen and say, that's the Democrat, and people would vote for it.
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Joe Getty
You could put a mannequin.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Joe Getty
You could put a non human.
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Clay Travis
If you could put a dementia patient in the Oval Office, I think you could vote for a mannequin.
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Joe Getty
I think their brand is toxic on a level that has never existed in my life.
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Clay Travis
I think you're. I think your tribalism is going too far on this one. There are a lot of insane demos, you see, because I've lived in New York where people always say to me, buck, do you really believe. Do you really believe that 80% of people in New York vote Democrat and they will say, suggest things like, oh, they must be cheating in New York? No, it is. It is true. 80% of New York City residents are Democrats who vote. Like, this is the reality we face.
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Joe Getty
I will say this is why I believe Democrats are going to have to find their version of Trump. I don't think I'm going to make a prediction here. I don't think the Democrat nominee in 2028 will be someone who is in elective.
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Clay Travis
So I had to take you out for a very expensive stake because Biden unfortunately couldn't just pull off the last leg of the con, which he got very far. Okay. Biden carried the ball of his conning the American people to the five yard line, started, I can't say high stepping because that would require balance, but was having a tough time.
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Joe Getty
Also the ability to walk the walk.
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Clay Travis
Yes. So. So. But he, he was having a rough one. And. And so I took the heat on that. Okay, fine. Even though, really for two years, to say that Biden was going to run seemed insane.
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Buck Sexton
Run.
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Clay Travis
But Michelle Obama. You were part of the Michelle Obama is going to run chorus. Have you seen her? You were gone this day. And I wanted to. I don't want to bother you on your vacation. Have you seen her on these podcasts?
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Joe Getty
She's awful.
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Clay Travis
She is absolutely horrible. And everybody who listens to her is like, this woman is terrible. That was all a media creation, all a fiction.
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Joe Getty
Correct. But my thought on that was. The only way you could avoid Kamala, who was also awful, was by having another black woman.
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Clay Travis
So now you admit there's no chance Michelle Obama's running in the future.
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Joe Getty
I don't think there's any way she's okay. I think she is thoroughly unlikable.
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Clay Travis
Because, because the stuff I, as somebody who always thought that she was this construct of the media in these podcasts, I sit there, I'm like, this woman is this. I think a lot of Democrats honestly don't like her anymore.
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Joe Getty
She's got Meghan Markle level authenticity and likability, which is not a high level of likability, by the way. As you go to read this, you'll appreciate I walk into the house now. My wife hates Meghan Markle so much, she listens to British podcasts about how awful Meghan Markle.
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Clay Travis
This is funny because your wife and my wife are in the Meghan Markle is the worst person in the world club. And just separately they came to this conclusion. And so I know whenever I just want to interest like I send her anyone trashing Meghan Markle and she's just.
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Joe Getty
Like, I walk in or I'm getting ready for bed and there's like a British podcast and it's just a complete evisceration. I'm like, what are you listening to? It's just British people talking about how much they hate Meghan Markle.
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Clay Travis
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Ryan Seacrest
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Joe Getty
He's Joe Getty.
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Ryan Seacrest
We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world.
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Clay Travis
Something about a comedic tone.
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Ryan Seacrest
We have a winner.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Clay Travis
We're closing up shop. Let's get some talkbacks real quick here. Podcast listener Shara from Nashville. This is.
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Joe Getty
This is dd.
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Clay Travis
We have Shara from Nashville going once.
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Joe Getty
Okay.
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Clay Travis
Let's try podcast listener Dave from Cincinnati. Clay, this is Dave in Cincinnati. I love you guys. I would hope you could destroy some WNBA players. I don't think you could. We had a former Division 1 player, was a coach at my college, and she would practice with us and she would bang and she was physical and tough. But I think you could outshoot Angel.
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Joe Getty
Wow. I could.
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Clay Travis
David, saying Dave is saying that they would toss you around like a rag doll. Clay. That's what Dave's saying.
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Joe Getty
Basically, Dave said Angel was more of a man than me, which is quite the attack because then he said I could out shoot her. I'm telling you, she would not take me inside and scream. I would beat her head to head.
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Clay Travis
Clay in the low post. We got to get this going. We got to get this.
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Joe Getty
I would finish her.
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J.R. Martinez
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Trisha McLaughlin
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Joe Getty
Went down that day on Medal of.
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Ryan Seacrest
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong.
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Joe Getty
He's Joe Getty.
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Ryan Seacrest
We're Armstrong and Get yeti. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy.
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Clay Travis
Modern world about something about a comedic tone.
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Ryan Seacrest
We have a winner.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Ryan Seacrest
Listen to Armstrong. You get it on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
This is an iHeart podcast.