The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Hour 3: Epstein's Client List
Release Date: July 9, 2025
In the third hour of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show," the hosts delve deep into the ongoing controversies surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's client list, the Department of Justice's handling of the case, and the broader implications for American politics. This episode features insightful discussions, listener interactions, and critical analyses of recent developments.
1. Biden's Doctor and the Fifth Amendment [04:34 – 06:46]
Clay and Buck kick off the episode by addressing a pressing legal question: Should President Joe Biden's doctor, who has invoked the Fifth Amendment, be offered immunity to testify?
Clay Travis raises the scenario:
“Now that Dr. O'Connor has invoked his Fifth Amendment rights, should he be offered immunity to get him to testify? Really interesting question from Senator Lee.” ([05:07])
Buck Sexton engages by comparing medical confidentiality to attorney-client privilege, questioning the possibility of compelling testimony without breaching HIPAA laws.
Clay elaborates:
“The key for him is not his medical diagnosis of Joe Biden. It is asking him whether people told him and conspired with him to have him say things publicly that he did not believe were true.” ([06:10])
This segment underscores the delicate balance between legal protections for medical professionals and the pursuit of truth in high-profile political cases.
2. Epstein's Client List and Pam Bondi's Statements [10:32 – 15:54]
The conversation shifts to the highly sensitive topic of Jeffrey Epstein's client list. A listener named Tommy from Clearwater expresses admiration for former Attorney General Pam Bondi's efforts to address the Epstein scandal:
“I think she's a hero. I think she was the only one who was willing to get out there and talk about it.” ([10:43])
Clay counters this view, critiquing Bondi's effectiveness:
“Pam Bondi, we should play this audio because there has been a ton of talk. Pam Bondi, I think, has not been articulate enough about many of the issues that she is dealing with.” ([11:31])
They discuss Bondi's recent statements revealing that much of the seized material consisted of "kitty porn"—child pornography Epstein had downloaded from the internet, rather than explicit videos featuring himself with minors.
“This is kitty porn that was downloaded by Epstein that he's not in.” ([13:41])
Buck highlights the poor communication strategy from Bondi, suggesting that a more transparent and assertive approach was needed to inform the public about the gravity of the evidence.
3. Listener Interaction: Critique of DOJ's Handling [31:16 – 41:11]
Listener Ty from San Antonio joins the conversation, expressing frustration with the Department of Justice's handling of the Epstein case. He challenges the DOJ's narrative that only "kitty porn" was found, arguing that Epstein's activities undoubtedly involved more sinister elements.
“A guy with his sexual deviant nature, his connections, his money and... there is absolutely... it's beyond my belief.” ([32:09])
Clay responds by questioning the absence of evidence pointing to broader criminal activities, suggesting that if such evidence existed, it might have been destroyed or suppressed.
“If you are protecting Epstein... Why would they destroy all of that evidence?” ([33:04])
The discussion touches on the possibility of Epstein operating a blackmail scheme and the DOJ's potential motives for limiting public disclosures.
Buck adds perspective on the improbability of high-profile individuals being protected without repercussions:
“I've known Dan for 15 years. Dan and Cash are not... covering for pedos.” ([35:06])
This exchange highlights the tension between public skepticism and official statements regarding Epstein's network.
4. Trump's Reaction and FBI Investigations [22:31 – 38:43]
Clay introduces an audio clip of former President Donald Trump reacting to questions about Epstein:
“James Comey and John Brennan now under criminal investigation related to the Trump Russia probe. Do you want to see these two guys behind bars?” ([26:14])
Clay and Buck discuss the broader implications of potential investigations into former FBI officials like James Comey and John Brennan, drawing parallels to the unfounded "Russia collusion" narrative.
“Russia collusion was a total lie... They manufactured... crappy ads that... Russian interest into somehow swinging the outcome of the 2016 election.” ([27:03])
They express skepticism about the likelihood of criminal charges due to factors like the statute of limitations and the individuals' familiarity with the legal system.
Clay emphasizes that any association between Trump and Epstein is baseless:
“I think that is almost a version of Trump 2.0, the Russia collusion... it's the most ludicrous thing on the planet.” ([27:45])
5. Closing Remarks and Future Discussions [41:11 – 45:56]
As the episode winds down, Clay reiterates his stance on the Epstein case, emphasizing that while Epstein's criminal activities are undeniable, there is no concrete evidence of broader conspiracies in the DOJ's current files.
“Jeffrey Epstein was a bad dude and a pedophile. But we're in the middle of the floods in Texas... He wants to focus on the things that he can address.” ([38:22])
Buck and Clay conclude by acknowledging the complexity of the Epstein case and expressing a commitment to uncovering the truth in future episodes.
Key Takeaways
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Legal Boundaries: The discussion on whether Biden's doctor should be compelled to testify highlights the complexities of legal protections versus the need for transparency in political matters.
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DOJ's Transparency: Clay and Buck critically assess the Department of Justice's handling of Epstein's client list, questioning the adequacy and honesty of public disclosures.
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Public Skepticism: Listener interactions reveal a deep-seated mistrust in official narratives, especially concerning high-profile criminal cases involving powerful individuals.
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Political Ramifications: The episode underscores the ongoing impact of the Epstein scandal on American politics, including potential investigations into former FBI officials and unfounded conspiracy theories linking Trump to Epstein.
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Future Focus: The hosts commit to continuing their investigation into the Epstein case, promising more revelations and discussions in upcoming episodes.
Notable Quotes:
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Clay Travis: “If you are protecting Epstein... Why would they destroy all of that evidence?” ([33:04])
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Buck Sexton: “I've known Dan for 15 years. Dan and Cash are not... covering for pedos.” ([35:06])
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Clay Travis: “Jeffrey Epstein was a bad dude and a pedophile. But we're in the middle of the floods in Texas... He wants to focus on the things that he can address.” ([38:22])
This episode provides a thorough examination of the Epstein case, blending legal analysis with political critique, and showcases the hosts' commitment to holding powerful entities accountable.
