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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome in final hour of the week Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're about to be joined by Nicole Parker, former FBI special agent Fox News contributor. But want to fill you in with a little bit of news. Kind of significant if you have been out and have not heard this yet. First of all, Trump is on the ground in Texas touring the flood ravaged area areas around Kerrville. We will update you on anything that comes from that visit if it happens in this hour. Just FYI, that is where the President is right now. Breaking news. While the President has been traveling to Texas, there were Axios initially reported on a blow up inside of the White House between FBI officials Dan Bongino, the deputy director in particular and the Attorney General Pam Bondi over the way that information has been released surrounding the Epstein investigation. There is a belief on the FBI side that the AG's office, Pam Bondi in particular has over promised and under delivered and not been great in terms of her communication on this case. And there are now reports according to our friend Julie Kelly, who I believe is accurate, I trust her reporting on this, that Dan Bongino may have said it's either her or me that is the deputy director of the FBI, maybe also Cash Patel. We don't know exactly how his position is impacted here. And Pam Bondi that Trump needs to make a choice. It's either she stays as AG or our Bongino stays in the FBI. Okay. That is where we are. Nicole Parker, you have heard us talking and discussing all of this Epstein chaos. You used to work in the FBI South Florida office. So let's start with that. To me, the actual linchpin of all of this that has become of a criminal nature starts with that investigation. And I believe it was Acosta was the prosecutor there was appears to have let Jeffrey Epstein off on a very sweetheart deal there. You're from the FBI office down in South Florida. What do you think about the optics surrounding that initial part of this story?
Clay Travis
That's a very important element of what's been going on. I'm just going to full disclosure. I don't represent anyone but my own personal opinions. Based on my experience as a special agent with the FBI, I'll make that very clear. I never sensationalize things. I just tell the facts. Sometimes it comes across as boring, but I just tell it like it is based on my perspective. I have never been a big follower of the Epstein story from the civilian side of life. I was a special agent with the FBI in the Miami Division in the Southern District of Florida. And as we know, Palm beach is in the area of responsibility of FBI Miami. Prior to my joining the FBI, this case was, this dates back to the early 2000s. And so I do think it's important for your listeners to remember how much history there is here. This is a sick, disgusting, evil and abhorrent man who abused and trafficked minors for years. And so again, going back like you said, it was back in 2008 actually a very controversial plea deal was signed with the U.S. attorney in the Southern District of Florida, Alex Acosta, involving, you know, the locals as well. And basically if we go back, it was May of 2006 that the state Attorney in the state of Florida, Barry Kushner, charged Epstein with one count of soliciting prostitution. Palm Beach Law Enforcement, Palm Beach Sheriff's Office was concerned about how that was handled. They reported the information to the FBI, FBI Miami Division in July of 2006. So it was referred to the FBI. They launched a full investigation. Again, I was not at the FBI at that time, but I can tell you that when I joined I spoke to agents that were extremely frustrated with how much work the FBI did. And it was not charged by, you know, we all know that the Department of Justice makes the prosecutorial decisions. Again, this is dating back to 2006. In June of 2007 it was actually US Attorney Alex Acosta. At the time he was actually preparing a 53 page indictment against Epstein. Right. So all these FBI agents that have been working so hard are like, oh good, you know, he's going to be held accountable, as he should. They did a thorough investigation. And then In October of 2007, the U.S. attorney worked with Epstein's attorneys and they signed a non prosecution agreement and they it was like a sweetheart deal that he was able to plead guilty to two felony prosecution charges. As we know, in comparison to a sex trafficking charge, that's a little slap on the wrist. As we've seen with the Diddy case, what did he got convicted of is a slap on the wrist compared to the other charges that he faced. So In June of 2008, Epstein pleads guilty to the two lesser counts and he sentenced to 18 months in jail. Again, slap on the wrist. He reports to the Palm County Jail, he's released early and In July of 2019 it resurfaces because they're victims, real victims of this heinous crime, multiple heinous crimes of this man and they come forward and with the MeToo movement it brought a lot of interest and those victims never had justice served properly for what occurred to them. And again, as an FBI agent who has worked these types of investigations, your number one priority is the victim. They have rights, they should be protected. And I appreciate that they resurfaced this investigation. Southern District of New York goes in and In July of 2019, Epstein was arrested at the Teterboro, New Jersey airport as he was coming in from a trip from Paris. And he was charged with sex trafficking of minor girls and a conspiracy to commit sex trafficking. And it dates all the way back to 2002 to 2005, trafficking in Florida Palm beach area as well as his New York residence. So women started coming forward even after he was charged. Over a dozen women come forward and the FBI says, hey, if you are a victim of this monster, basically please come forward. And over a dozen women came forward. So again, he has over 1,000 victims of this nasty, abhorrent, evil thing that he had been doing for years. And we all know he was arrested, he went to jail and then in August of 2019, before he even went to trial, that is when he was found dead in his jail cell in federal prison. And at the time the FBI does a full investigation, it was ruled that it was a suicide by hanging. There were a lot of people that did not necessarily agree with that. We all know that the bottom girl in a sex trafficking ring, there's a bottom girl. She's basically the one that recruits the victims. And that we all know is Maxwell. And she was arrested in 2020. She was the one that helped recruit these minors, underage girls. And In December of 2021, she was found guilty after a four week trial. And she started her prison sentence, a 20 year federal prison sentence. She started in June of 2022. And again, we all know this is a highly controversial case. It was not handled properly in the first place. And again, this is prior to me joining the FBI, but upon my arrival in the Southern District of Florida, there were agents that were extremely frustrated with how this was handled even back into the early 2000s.
Nicole Parker
What do you think's going on now, Nicole? We've had a lot of people very upset after the memo release on Sunday. Now I'm seeing the latest breaking news is that Deputy Director Bongino, according to Pile Kyle Becker on Twitter here, has taken a leave of absence. I don't even know if that's official or if that's just what people are saying, but obviously there's something going on here. What do you think's going on.
Clay Travis
Again, I am always hesitant to speak out of turn because I don't speak unless I know the facts. I do not know the facts of those, you know, thoughts that people are putting out there or what people know. I have not spoken to Dan Bongino. I have not spoken. So that would be inappropriate for me to make a statement. I'm not going to do that. But what I do know is that the FBI has been accused for years of not being transparent. Right. I mean I left the FBI because I did not agree with a lot of the things I thought had been politically and socially weaponized. And I thought that the FBI should be more transparent. And I think that coming in with I think that is the goal and it is a high priority of Cash Patel of Dan Bongino of Pam Bondi. These are people that have been so frustrated, especially under the Biden administration with a lack of transparency. Americans are the taxpayers. At the end of the day they are our boss. And when I was an FBI agent it was the taxpayer that was my boss. Right. And so I think that they've made a conscious effort to be transparent. I think the fact that they put this memo out, they reviewed things and I understand that people are very frustrated and you know, this is what the expectation was and this is what it is. And you know, I again okay, I want to step.
Nicole Parker
We appreciate that. Nicole Parker formerly of the FBI and with Fox News. Thank you you for joining in sharing your opinion on it.
Clay Travis
Thank you.
Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Friday edition of the program. You just heard from Nicole Parker, former FBI agent in South Florida. Again, all of this starting with an FBI investigation that took place in South Florida. And CNN has now climbed on the Bongino is threatening to resign train. And so I think this thing is officially out of the, out of the proverbial what would it be like the holding pattern here, Caitlin Collins saying it's accurate. Bongino has told people he's considering resigning. Hard to overstate the infighting happening right now. And it is continuing to grow. So positive, let's be positive. It is Friday. Is it possible, in your opinion, Buck, that Trump, like a dad, can call the crew back in to an Oval Office meeting or a meeting somewhere in the White House, say, hey, I want both of you to stay on and I don't want to have to make a decision between either or here or once all this goes public, does it become requisite effectively that Trump has to make a decision? And the first real significant departure, I would say, of Trump 2.0 is underway. If it's the attorney general who is ostensibly the boss of everyone in the Department of Justice, that is a huge position to have to feel to fill, particularly given that even most presidents deal with a lot of issues. But there's constant legal turmoil surrounding Trump because the Resistance 2.0 is primarily coming from the judiciary.
Nicole Parker
Yeah, man, it's, it's been, it's been a rough week. It's been a tough week. It's that, that I will say, let's get, we got a caller, Charles. And did we already take Charles? I'm sorry, no, we haven't.
Buck Sexton
Charles got him.
Nicole Parker
Charles in South Florida wants to weigh him. What's up, Charles?
Clay Travis
Hey, gentlemen. Tgif, not a big fan of Pam Motley. I want to put my name in for Greg Jarrett for a renew AG.
Buck Sexton
Okay, well, Trump probably likes Greg Jarrett because he's on Fox News all the time talking about legal related issues, which doesn't hurt because there's a bunch of former Fox News people In the Cabinet. I don't know that we need to get into handicapping who the new Attorney General should be. But let me say this, Buck, see if you would sign on with this. I think what is interesting here is there is not actually a disagreement about what is actually in the Epstein files. I think Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, and Dan Bongino have reviewed these files, and there is, in their opinion, not prosecutable evidence inside of the files. How do you tell people that there is not prosecutable evidence in the files? And secondarily, will they believe you no matter what they say after the comments that have been made?
Nicole Parker
I think an important, important addendum or clarification on that, Clay, is that there's not. Not evidence to prosecute beyond Epstein, who is dead, is the point.
Buck Sexton
Because people are seeing what I'm seeing online right now.
Nicole Parker
Yeah. Are they saying that there were no crime? No, no one's saying there are no crimes. I mean, Epstein was going to spend the rest of his life in a cell. Everybody knows that. That's why he died. Okay? You know, killed himself. That's why whatever happened there happened because he was gone or he was going to be gone in a cell for the rest of his life. So it's not that there's not evidence of Epstein's extreme crimes. There's more. There's tons of evidence of Epstein's extreme crimes, but people are asking about crimes beyond that, and they're saying that they don't have that information. Now, Dershowitz seems to be suggesting pretty clearly in that soundbite we played that they do have more information than they have shared, but perhaps it is not information of any crimes committed and would only be destructive or defamatory to reputations of people who may not be guilty of any crimes. And that's where everyone's getting real testy. And that's where the real. You know, because, well, if there are a hundred people on a list and five of them did really horrible stuff, but you don't know which five, does the DOJ release the list of the hundred people? I mean, I think that's essentially the conundrum in which the DOJ FBI situation is right now, I could be wrong, but that's what I think is going on is they're not releasing everything because a lot of people didn't do anything wrong, and they'll be named. And there are some people who did things that are wrong, but they can't prove it. So what's the point of releasing all the names? I think that may be where this is.
Buck Sexton
And that's why a part of me. And again, it's messy. And unfortunately, as you just said, there's gonna be a lot of people who are sort of caught in the shrapnel of the Epstein explosion. A part of me just thinks you gotta release everything. And here's the problem with that. Because of the promises that have been made about Epstein prosecutions, even if you release everything, there's gonna be a lot of people who say, I don't believe it, they didn't actually release everything. So you're almost in. Unless you, I don't know, perp walk Bill Clinton out and Bill Gates and other guys that have been associated with Epstein in any way in handcuffs, many of those people are not going to be satisfied. So I think Trump is in a tough spot here, honestly. And if he's got his FBI and his Attorney General's office feuding with each other and potentially saying it's me or her, then I mean, he's, this is why you're the President. The tough decisions get brought to your desk. And it's much more serious than this. But your analogy of it's kind of like the Apprentice. Two people sit across the Resolute desk and make an argument about why they deserve to continue to have their job. It's kind of like that.
Nicole Parker
I think that's where we are. I don't, I don't see how all three of the big names involved at the top of the Trump justice apparatus, meaning doj, FBI, I don't see how they all continue to work together after this. I don't see how that's possible, really.
Buck Sexton
That's the problem?
Nicole Parker
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Buck Sexton
In turned into a dark. I started so well. I was like, hey, it's two year anniversary almost of Trump nearly getting killed. Let's just all be grateful for how amazing we tried it is that we're all here and then mushroom cloud surrounding the FBI, DOJ and the Epstein mess. And are we, do we have like a moment of positivity for people that are watching on video?
Nicole Parker
Yes. Well, if you become a YouTube subscriber and many of you have, have signed up, you go to, you go to YouTube.com layann buck. You'll see things like here we go. But see, you'd have to be a YouTube watcher to see this.
Buck Sexton
Whoops.
Nicole Parker
Make sure I got a good grip.
Buck Sexton
We're just bringing in a baby. So it's been a, it's been a tough show. There's lots of infighting, there's lots of mess going on. And so Buck was like, oh, that is an amazingly cute little baby here. How old is James now?
Nicole Parker
James. James Speed is three months old today actually.
Buck Sexton
So this is the, if you're like, wait a minute, you're just shifting stories. This is what babies are for. They help to make people happier. So we have just brought in a three month old baby. By the way, you will see this if you go subscribe at Clay and Buck. A thousand of you yesterday went and did this after Buck promised that you would get to see his firstborn. Right there is a super cute, awesome.
Nicole Parker
Little baby boy name. And so our relative, the former Attorney general, look at that, under Abraham Lincoln. So there you go.
Buck Sexton
That is awesome. So there you will see this on YouTube if you probably will put it up@clayandbuck.com as we roll into the weekend.
Nicole Parker
I think we just needed, we just.
Buck Sexton
Needed a moment with a baby positivity. Bring a baby. Okay. So on Trump, Trump is in Texas dealing with the flood aftermath of the disaster which started off this week. Um, maybe because this is a Friday, the fact that everywhere is the report now, we started it off about an hour and a half ago. I would say we were probably ahead of the curve in letting you know that this was potentially going to be an issue. Um, and if you just getting in your car, you're just starting off your day. You haven't been paying attention to the news reports that Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino has said. It's basically either me or, or Attorney General Pam Bondi over the fallout surrounding the Epstein investigation. There's a belief that on the side of the FBI that Attorney General Pam Bondi has overpromised and underdelivered. And do we have the audio, did Greg pull the audio for us yet of these clips that have gone mega viral of Pam Bondi saying basically, hey, these files are on my desk. And trying to walk back what she has said. We know that they had the binder surrounding everything that was, that was put out there. Okay, let me just play this. This is a flashback first cut 33 here. This is February 21, 2025. Pam Bondi says the Epstein client list is sitting on my desk right now. This was on Fox News America's newsroom. John Roberts asking the questions. She's tried to say she didn't mean the actual list. But this is what they talk about when they say overpromise. Under deliver cut 33, DOJ may be.
Nicole Parker
Releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen?
E
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the President from all of these agencies.
Buck Sexton
So.
Nicole Parker
So have you seen anything that you said? Oh my gosh, not yet.
Buck Sexton
Okay, good follow up to be fair, by John Roberts. And again, the client list and the Epstein list and all these things. List is a very interesting phrase, right? Because what is the list consist of? Is it people who flew on the airplane which can be legal, Right. A lot of people can have legally flown on the airplane, which I read did 600 trips a year or something. I mean this was a jet that he had that flew everywhere. Was it client list, meaning he invested with people, many of whom may have known nothing about his private life. So that's a mess. But it implicated and certainly implied that there was going to be a release and that there would be some consequences for people who might have engaged in crimes alongside of Epstein. That was cut one, that's February 21st. She then said on our friend Sean Hannity show, this was in March, that the Epstein client list was sitting on her desk and that it was a truckload, a truckload of documents. This is cut 34.
E
Listen, you're looking at these documents going, these aren't all the Epstein files. You know, there were flight logs, there were names and victims names. And we're going, where's the rest of the stuff. And that's what the FBI had turned over to us. And so a source said, whoa, all this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of New York. So based on that, I gave them the deadline. Friday at 8, a truckload of evidence arrived. It's now in the possession of the FBI. Cash is going to get me and himself, really a detailed report as to why all these documents and evidence had been withheld. And, you know, we're going to go through it, go through it as fast as we can, but go through it very cautiously to protect all the victims of Epstein, because there are a lot.
Buck Sexton
Of victims, okay, Truckload of documents, evidence sitting on my desk. And then to your point, Buck, suddenly on Sunday they come out and say, hey, yeah, there's no real prosecutable evidence here, and let's just move on. And a lot of people have said, record scratch moment. What are you talking about? We heard what you said in February. We heard what you said in March. I'm talking about Attorney General Pam Bondi. How in the world can you now tell us truckloads of documents, stuff sitting on your desk. Oh, there's nothing here. It's a mess. She overpromised and has under delivered. And that is a huge issue.
Nicole Parker
Well, we would say under any other circumstance that the public's faith and trust in the Attorney General and more broadly in the Department of Justice is important. It's not just about making the right decision. It's about the perception that the right decisions are being made and that and can be trusted. Right. So there's what you do, and there's also how the people feel about what's going on. And you know, the fact. All you have to know is the fact that we've got as many people as riled up as they are right now. And I'm not disparaging it because I understand the frustration and I understand the sense of hiding the football or the political whiplash because it's there, it's real. I mean, this happened. This. I could not believe the Sunday memo when I read it. And I mean, you could all see it's public record. My first response was, because they said there's no blackmail. I'm like, I fundamentally do not believe that there was no blackmail going on. I. I do not believe.
Buck Sexton
We agree. I think that. I think that he blackmailed people. Like, by the way, there's a difference between we don't have the evidence to prove something, which I think this is so important. I think that they walked into a mess Here. I think there might have been evidence in the past. You just heard Nicole Parker talking about this. The first prosecution. You and I were talking about this off air. You know, a guy is sleeping with underage kids, right? And you give him 13 months home confinement. The first. I'm talking about the first punishment, which was 2018 or whatever the heck it was. How does that happen? You got people, you know this. But like I, when I practice criminal law, I. I knew a guy in the US Virgin Islands who slept with a girl that pretended she was 18 and she was like 17 or something. He was 22. He went to prison. She lied. She had a fake id. Everybody's like, what? This bartender meets her. Like, they sleep together. She lied about who she was. She lied. He went to prison. One. One interaction. And you're telling me this guy in Florida is sleeping with lots of girls under the age of 18, under the age of consent. And some of them are. Some of them were.
Nicole Parker
Hold on. Some of them were also like. Because I saw the documentary about this and like 13 or 14 as well.
Buck Sexton
I mean, really, age of consent is 18 in Florida, so. Well, under the age of consent. And he got home confinement. That is a record scratch moment. Now, that happened all the way back in 18. Right. And it was not. Am I correct in that? It was 2000? Maybe it was even earlier than that. I want to make sure I get the year right. Of the initial prosecution. Then he was rearrested after he had already served the home confinement penalty.
Nicole Parker
Well, he was rearrested because the Miami Herald actually did an investigation and it became more public what was going on. And then I think they looked into it and realized not only did he get off with a shockingly light approach the first time, he kept doing this stuff.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, that's right.
Nicole Parker
Doing it.
Buck Sexton
Sorry, my apologies.
Nicole Parker
Question. There was a massive failure of justice of the DOJ system here, by the way.
Buck Sexton
I want to correct the year. So the second arrest, he was arrested a second time. And I know Nicole ran through this, but in 2019, in 2005, they started the investigation. So, I mean, who was President 2000 Frigging 5? George W. Bush. Right. I mean, we're talking about something 20 years ago that was initially investigated. He pled guilty. Sorry, I said 2018, 2008 to Florida state court and just got 13 months as a basically home confinement work release. That was going on. I mean, that's nothing. And then he got rearrested in the middle of the MeToo after people went back and looked and said what in the world. How did this guy get such favorable treatment? So again, the first investigation, the One that happened 20 years ago, how does that happen? How does a guy dead to rights get off on that level of lenient treatment? That's a question that I think goes to the essence now. But the problem, I think, Buck, is by the time these guys get into office, Bondi, Bongino, Cash, I don't think there's very much there. I think they're telling the truth. Because if this were, this is not an argument over, hey, one person wants to arrest eight people and the other person is saying no. It's just an argument about the communication that has made this a bigger mushroom cloud than it would have been if they had come out and just said what I said to you. Hey, we don't think there's much here. And I'm sorry, and I don't know what happened. And they screwed this up and we just walked into this mess. I think people would have been more likely to accept it then.
Nicole Parker
Wow. Here you go. This is cut 35, the CNN data analyst. You know, maybe the left is going to realize this is actually a big deal on the right and they're going to start trying to create more divisions here. That's something to be aware of. But CNN's data guy, looking at what this has done to Google searches this week. This is cut 35. Play it.
F
What a massive unforced erro. The Trump administration. Donald Trump would love this story to go away, but in fact, interest is climbing higher and higher. To quote Jackie Wilson, look at this. Google searches for Epstein up 1200% this week versus last. And get this, it is currently the top topic search with Trump on Google alongside his presidency. So Donald Trump normally, you know, leans in, leans into stories in which there's controversy like tariffs, for example. This is a story in which he's trying to get away from basically saying, why is anyone still interested in this story? But the bottom line is people are very interested in this story to historic degrees.
Nicole Parker
I mean, there you go. That's, that's the Internet data.
Buck Sexton
People are interested in it to historic degrees. And I, again, I think to your point, they're not going to get people mad at Trump because he is out there and he is arresting people. You know, they're trying to say, oh, ice is too powerful. We voted for this. I think a lot of people said, I voted for Jeffrey Epstein's victims to be prosecuted. And so this mess, I think, is actually more destructive inside of the Trump conspirators.
Nicole Parker
His co conspirators to be prosecuted to get justice for the victims.
Buck Sexton
Yes, but inside of the Trump voting base, this is actually a mess for Trump. ICE raids and tax cuts and things like that, by and large are not.
Nicole Parker
Even if I had told you two months ago that the Trump administration's B2 bomber strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities would be a two day story and the DOJ's handling of Epstein files would be a five alarm fire at least online in the news cycle for an entire week, I would have just said that's not possible.
Buck Sexton
I agree.
Nicole Parker
Here we are here.
Buck Sexton
I wouldn't have believed it. Here you want a positive Buck as I get ready to read this, let me give you a positive. Well, you know what? I'm going to save the positive I like. I want to give you good news going into the weekend. I've got a good news story for everybody as we head into the weekend. But first I want to tell you. Look, how much do you want to protect and preserve the memories that you and your family have created over the years? I bet you do. A lot. We just had July 4th. How many July 4ths have you had? Great cookouts, great barbecues, great fireworks, celebrations. How many of those are on vhs? How many of those are old school on pictures? How many different places out there are your family memories distributed? And how many of them, well, frankly they aren't on digital at all and they aren't easy to share. That's the business question that led to the creation of Legacy Box. Legacy Box can help to preserve your family memories forever on digital. So many families out there, more than a million of them, have already relied on Legacy Box to digitally transfer all the memories you can easily watch, share and be allow you to share them online, allow them to you to text them to friends and family. Visit legacybox.com so that they are stored in the cloud forever. Visit legacybox.com clay today and unlock 50% off your order. That's legacybox.com clay one more time. Legacybox.com clay keep up with the biggest.
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Nicole Parker
Just trying to tell everybody about what's going on in the news today. It's been quite a day and we wanted to give you a little bit of Claire. You're going to do a little sunshine.
Buck Sexton
I've got. I've got good news. I have good news in what has Been a messy week and certainly what has been a messy day breaking. US Governments have shocked expectations by delivering, according to End Wokeness, a budget surplus In June of 2025, the first time the government has not borrowed money in a month, in 20 years. So there is something, I hope this, I hope this is not like, changed later. And they're like, actually, sorry, we missed 240 billion. You know, the counting gets off. But the report out there right now is that In June of 2025, we showed, and I'm sharing this right now, I just retweeted it, a budget surplus of $26 billion, which is the first budget surplus that the United States government has reported in 20 years, according to End Wokeness. Good Twitter follow out there. So I like this.
Nicole Parker
I like this from, from Jeff, by the way, HH from South Carolina. Listen on radio. Play it.
G
The only way that they can make this go away now is Trump needs to get all the papers, everything they got, and he needs to go in front of the American people tonight at 9 o', clock, say, here it is. It's all on this website. Boom. That's the only way it's gonna. That's the only way we're gonna believe him. We'll believe Trump if he shows us everything. Thanks.
Nicole Parker
I think, I think Trump addressing everybody on this clay may be the only way that this really gets put in the rear view and people feel like it has been handled.
Buck Sexton
I think you're right.
Nicole Parker
I think that's where this is.
Buck Sexton
So now the challenge on this is, I'm just telling you, even if Trump says we have released everything, it's all out there.
Nicole Parker
A lot of the JFK files, which I told everybody was going to have a lot of nothing burgers in it, and it did. So there's that.
Buck Sexton
I think the thing to keep in mind is as I started off the show with positivity, hey, think about where we could be. One year ago, Trump nearly killed on live television. And think about how much progress we made. I just said we got a budget surplus. For the first time in 20 years, things are looking up. Stock market record highs. Let's see how this thing goes. But undisputed mess relating to the Epstein files this week.
Nicole Parker
Have a great weekend, everybody. Hugs for all of you. Talk to you soon.
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Hour 3 - FBI-DOJ Mushroom Cloud Release Date: July 11, 2025
In the final hour of the week, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into a tumultuous episode within the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), centered around the handling of the Jeffrey Epstein investigation. Joined by Nicole Parker, a former FBI special agent and Fox News contributor, the duo navigates through breaking news, internal conflicts, and the broader implications for the Trump administration.
The episode kicks off with Buck Sexton updating listeners on President Trump's presence in Texas, touring areas affected by recent floods around Kerrville. Concurrently, significant turmoil brews within the DOJ and FBI. Reports from Axios highlight a fallout between FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino and Attorney General Pam Bondi over the release of information related to the Epstein investigation.
Notable Quote:
"Pam Bondi, Trump needs to make a choice. It's either she stays as AG or our Bongino stays in the FBI." — Buck Sexton [00:04]
Nicole Parker provides an in-depth analysis of the Epstein case, emphasizing the controversial plea deal struck in 2008 by U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta. She critiques the leniency of Epstein's sentence—18 months in jail with early release—highlighting the frustration among FBI agents regarding the Department of Justice's handling of the case.
Notable Quote:
"This is a sick, disgusting, evil and abhorrent man who abused and trafficked minors for years." — Nicole Parker [02:36]
Parker outlines the timeline from the initial charges in 2006, the FBI's thorough investigation, and the subsequent non-prosecution agreement. She underscores the resurgence of the case in 2019, fueled by the MeToo movement, leading to renewed efforts to seek justice for Epstein's victims.
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton discuss the escalating conflict, where Deputy Director Bongino alleges that AG Bondi has overpromised and underdelivered in her communication about the Epstein files. Reports suggest that Bongino may be forced to choose between his position or Bondi's, indicating severe internal strife.
Notable Quote:
"FBI has been accused for years of not being transparent... they have made a conscious effort to be transparent." — Buck Sexton [08:21]
The hosts explore the potential ramifications of this DOJ-FBI conflict on President Trump's administration. They debate whether Trump might intervene directly to resolve the dispute, likening the situation to a high-stakes decision reminiscent of "The Apprentice."
Notable Quote:
"This is why you're the President. The tough decisions get brought to your desk." — Buck Sexton [13:28]
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the alleged existence of a comprehensive Epstein client list. Bondi's statements about reviewing the list have fueled public speculation and distrust. The hosts question the feasibility of the DOJ withholding information and the impact on public faith in the institution.
Notable Quote:
"There's not evidence to prosecute beyond Epstein, who is dead." — Nicole Parker [14:43]
Citing a CNN data analyst, Buck Sexton highlights the skyrocketing public interest in the Epstein case, with Google searches increasing by 1200% compared to the previous week. This surge underscores the case's enduring and escalating relevance in public discourse.
Notable Quote:
"Google searches for Epstein up 1200% this week versus last. And it is currently the top topic search with Trump on Google alongside his presidency." — CNN Data Analyst [30:28]
In an effort to balance the heavy topics, Buck Sexton introduces a moment of positivity by showcasing Buck's three-month-old baby, James. This light-hearted segment serves to remind listeners of everyday joys amidst political and institutional turmoil.
Concluding on a positive note, Buck Sexton shares encouraging news about the U.S. government's financial status. According to End Wokeness, the government achieved a budget surplus of $26 billion in June 2025—the first surplus in two decades—signifying potential economic stability.
Notable Quote:
"In June of 2025, we showed... a budget surplus of $26 billion, which is the first budget surplus that the United States government has reported in 20 years." — Buck Sexton [34:06]
The episode presents a comprehensive overview of the internal conflicts within the DOJ and FBI concerning the Epstein investigation, the implications for President Trump's administration, and the broader impact on public trust. Amidst these serious discussions, the show also offers moments of levity and positive news, providing a balanced and engaging narrative for listeners.
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