Hour 3 - FL Rep. Byron Donalds

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode Hour 3 – FL Rep. Byron Donalds

Date: October 29, 2025 | Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In the third hour of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show," Clay and Buck welcome Florida congressman and gubernatorial candidate Byron Donalds. The discussion traverses the looming government shutdown, Florida's political transformation, property tax policies, migration trends from blue to red states, and the rise of progressive figures in national politics. The hosts also engage Donalds on sports, particularly college football, before shifting to cultural critiques on identity politics and Democratic Party shifts. The episode blends political insight, humor, and audience engagement, providing a snapshot of the conservative zeitgeist as seen from Florida and beyond.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Democrat Shutdown Strategy and Washington Politics

• The Status of the Federal Shutdown
  • Buck asks about the Democrats' strategy in the ongoing shutdown, which has impacted food stamps and military pay.
    • Byron Donalds asserts, "They don't have a plan. These guys are trying to basically strong arm one of the toughest negotiators in the history of the planet, and they're trying to strong arm him. They don't have a plan. They don't have a strategy." [03:54]
  • Donalds critiques Democrats for political posturing and blames radical policy sets for the absence of a strategy.
  • He points out that Democrats missed opportunities to fund essential workers and attributes the standoff to Chuck Schumer’s parliamentary interests, not policy.

Florida Politics: 2025 Governor's Race

• Byron Donalds for Governor

  • Clay notes Donalds currently has no viable challenger and praises his fundraising and endorsements (from Trump and Rick Scott). [05:07]
  • Donalds credits his success to "seeing people day in, day out," and says he’s working county-to-county.
    • "We're very blessed to have President Trump's full endorsement, Rick Scott's full endorsement... it's about seeing people day in, day out, and that's what we're committed to doing." [05:33]
  • He underlines his commitment to earning voters' trust and sets an energetic tone for the campaign.

• Property Tax Reform in Florida

  • Buck references Gov. DeSantis’s push to eliminate property tax for primary residences. Donalds expresses support but stresses continuing to fund essential services.
    • "I support...removing homestead property taxes...The thing we have to make sure we do is...essential services...continue to be funded." [06:52]
  • He anticipates DeSantis will soon reveal more details about how these services would be protected in the absence of those taxes, and is eager to see the proposal reach the ballot.

Migration from Blue States and National Policy Impact

• Florida vs. New York: Policy and Migration

  • Clay asks how Donalds views Florida’s appeal to out-of-state newcomers, especially those fleeing high-tax blue states.
  • Donalds, born in New York, tells listeners:
    • "If Mamdani becomes the mayor and you feel you got to come to Florida, remember why you came here. Our state, we are a low tax state. We don't have an income tax. Law and order is the baseline principle of our state, and that's not changing." [08:37]
  • He urges new arrivals to embrace Florida’s values, not bring failed policies with them.

• National Influence of Progressive Politicians

  • The hosts raise the rise of left-wing figures (AOC, Mamdani, Bernie Sanders) and ask if winning the NYC mayoralty would make Mamdani a national Democratic star.
  • Donalds responds,
    • "I think he's going to be one of the national faces of that party...I think he's terrible for the country, he's awful for New York and I think it's bad for Democrats because the public policy that these Marxists...are destructive." [10:08]
  • He laments the spread of radical policies from cities like New York, San Francisco, Chicago, and calls for common sense reforms.

The State of the Florida Democratic Party and Upcoming Race

• Opposition Outlook
  • Buck asks what kind of Democrat Donalds expects to face.
  • Donalds is dismissive:
    • "I don't really care...Governor DeSantis...has really put the Florida Democrat Party on life support. They're in bad shape over there...We're focused on...prepar[ing] Florida for the next generation of growth." [11:52]

College Football & Sports Banter

• A Lighter Side: FSU, Gators, and Coaching Drama

  • Buck prompts Donalds to mock Clay’s Tennessee Volunteers, but Donalds demurs, "They actually look okay. They look better than my [team]. I got to be quiet." [12:41]
  • Clay jests about Florida State’s downfall and needles Donalds about past playoff claims.
  • Donalds discusses the pressure on FSU’s coach and rumors about Gators coaching hires: Nick Saban, Lane Kiffin, and others.
    • "I think Lane will be a very good choice for the Florida Gators. Speaking as a Florida State Seminole. No, they can do better than him." [14:42]

• Final Campaign Plug

  • Donalds gives his campaign site and pledges to take “Florida to a whole nother level.” [15:04]

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Audience and Talkback Highlights

• Gas Prices and Station Profits
  • Audience members weigh in on claims about gas stations’ slim profit margins (3-7 cents per gallon), confirming it's largely a loss-leader business. [24:55]
• Language Banter
  • The hosts humorously debate the Americanized versus French pronunciation of “Viscount,” leaning on “speaking American.” [47:58]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Democrats and the Shutdown:

  • Byron Donalds: "They have no plan. They got no strategy. But the truth is they haven't had a plan for a long time. And that is because their policy sets are very radical." [03:54]

• On Florida’s Appeal:

  • Byron Donalds: "Our state, we are a low tax state. We don't have an income tax. Law and order is the baseline principle of our state, and that's not changing." [08:37]

• On Progressive Leadership:

  • Byron Donalds: "To be an out and out Marxist and really subscribing to policies that have never worked anywhere in the history of the planet, that's terrible for New York City." [10:08]

• On Sports Diplomacy:

  • Byron Donalds (on the Volunteers): "They actually look okay. They look better than my [team]. So I got to be quiet." [12:41]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic / Quote / Segment | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:54 | Byron Donalds on Democrat shutdown strategy: "They don’t have a plan..." | | 05:33 | Campaign update: "We're going county by county..." | | 06:52 | Homestead property tax stance: "I support what the governor's position has been..." | | 08:37 | Advice to blue-state migrants: "Remember why you came here..." | | 10:08 | On Mamdani/AOC/Bernie national impact: "Terrible for the country..." | | 11:52 | Opponent expectations: "I don't really care. ...life support..." | | 12:41 | Refuses to mock Clay’s team: "They actually look okay. They look better than my [team]." | | 14:42 | On Lane Kiffin as Gators coach (Seminole humor): "They can do better..." | | 15:04 | Campaign pitch: "Just go to byron donalds.com..." | | 24:55 | Gas station economics: "Net profit per gallon...is 3 to 7 cents a gallon..." | | 47:58 | Viscount/vicomte debate—pronunciation humor |

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Tone and Style

The conversation is lively, irreverent, and unscripted. Clay and Buck mix policy analysis with good-natured jabs, sports fandom, and down-to-earth economic talk. Donalds embodies confidence and pragmatic conservatism, focused on Florida’s future but unflinching in his criticism of Democrats. Audience participation is welcome, and the show doesn’t shy from pop culture or language debates, but always in a genial, “for the people” tone.

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Final Thoughts

This episode gives a clear view of the current conservative take on Florida’s political landscape, the impact of national progressive trends, and the unique blend of policy and personality fueling Byron Donalds’ gubernatorial run. Listeners are treated to insight, humor, and a few jabs at college football—all emblematic of Clay & Buck’s brand.

Transcript

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome in, everybody. Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. We've got Congressman Byron Donalds with us. Congressman, appreciate you making the time, sir.

[Byron Donalds]

It's good to be with you. How you doing?

[Buck Sexton]

Good. We got some national questions for you. We've got some Florida. I have some. Well, Clay actually is a Floridian in a sense too, kind of honorary because he has proper here. He lives on the Gulf of America part time. And then we will probably have some sports questions for you coming from Clay. So we will get to all of the above here momentarily. Let's start with the national level one, though. You're in Congress, Congressman. That makes sense. I think everyone figured that part out. What the heck is the Democrat plan with the shutdown that now is about to shut off food stamps, has already cut into or cut off paychecks for military members? I know we had a Trump donor come in and make that shortfall disappear temporarily. What is their plan like? What's the end game here?

[Byron Donalds]

They don't have one. The rest of the country is coming to this realization very fast. They don't have a plan. These guys are trying to basically strong arm one of the toughest negotiators in the history of the planet, and they're trying to strong arm him. They don't have a plan. They don't have a strategy. They figured if they just stood there long enough holding their breath that everybody would just buckle and yield to their view. A lot of these Democrats are using historical political views of how Democrats always win these shutdown fights, but they're not winning it. They're losing it by the day. They were given an opportunity to pay our military, to pay air traffic controllers, to pay TSA agents, to pay border agents and ICE agents, and they voted no. They have no plan. They got no strategy. But the truth is they haven't had a plan for a long time. And that is because their policy sets are very radical. And they were totally fine leaving an auto pen in charge of the country if it meant that they got their way. And now that that's gone and Donald Trump is back, they don't know what to do. That's why this shutdown seems to it seems to be a shutdown really about nothing except Chuck Schumer's leadership position.

[Clay Travis]

We're talking to Byron Donald's congressman, south Florida, soon to be, I believe, governor, state of Florida. Let's talk about the governor's race right now, because I know you are on campaign trail right now. We're basically to Halloween. Happy Halloween, everybody out there. You don't really have a viable challenger yet. That seems to me to be a very good position to be in. You've raised a lot of money. What should we know about the campaign and how it's going? What's the next step?

[Byron Donalds]

We're going county by county and we're seeing the voters of Florida. And, you know, even though we saw my responsibilities in Washington, when I'm not in Washington, I'm in some city in Florida, some county in Florida, talking to the people. And, you know, we're very blessed to have President Trump's full endorsement, Rick Scott's full endorsement. Obviously, fundraising has gone very well, but it's about seeing people day in, day out, and that's what we're committed to doing. So, you know, whoever else decides that they're going to run and jump in one, they got a lot of work to catch up on, and it's not going to be easy. We're going to work hard every single day to earn the votes of the people of Florida.

[Buck Sexton]

Congressman, you're running for governor, and I know that in many ways you would continue on with the policies and legacy of our fantastic governor, Ron DeSantis. He's done a great job here. And as a Floridian, I really appreciate and I get to benefit from the decisions he's made. Governor DeSantis is very in favor of eliminating for homesteaded properties. Right. So people for whom it is their primary residence as Floridians property tax. Where did you come down on that proposal, which I believe is being put forward for the people of Florida to vote on in a ballot initiative this fall. Next fall.

[Byron Donalds]

Well, look, I support what the governor's position has been about removing homestead property taxes on the people of Florida. The thing we have to make sure we do is when it comes to essential services that have historically been funded by those taxes, talking about sheriffs, deputies, police officers, firefighters, emergency personnel, road construction, road maintenance, we just want to make sure that that stuff continues to be funded because that's critical to the very fabric of Florida. So I am fully supportive of it. I look forward to seeing the governor's proposal. I anticipate that's going to come out very, very soon to talk about not just the repeal, but Then also the details around how do you fund some of those key initiatives like law enforcement, firefighters, emergency personnel. But I'm supportive, looking forward to seeing Tallahassee get this thing done and get it to the ballot so voters can make their voices heard next November.

[Clay Travis]

Congressman Byron Donald's with us right now, currently in Congress running for governor of Florida. When you look, we just been talking a lot about the mayor's race in New York City. If I remember correctly, you were born in New York City before you came down to the Sunshine State and made a life of it there. How much do you pay attention to the national decisions that are being made and what their impact could be on the state of Florida? Seen Governor Ron DeSantis talk quite a lot about the fact that many people in New York might decide to relocate to Florida with the higher taxes coming. Buck is one of them that's already done it. The president obviously did it. You did it long before you had any money, probably. To speak of, what would be your message to people listening to us in New York right now that might be thinking, hey, if Mom, Donnie's going to be coming in, maybe New York's not for me.

[Byron Donalds]

Well, the number one thing is if Mandani becomes the mayor and you feel you got to come to Florida, remember why you came here. Our state, we are a low tax state. We don't have an income tax. Law and order is the baseline principle of our state, and that's not changing. And so as long as you come here understanding why you left New York and what Florida is about, then, yeah, we're all for it. I think on a broader level, yeah, I do pay attention to what's happening nationally. Obviously, my job as a congressman right now requires it. But the biggest thing we want to do is make sure that Florida remains the number one state in the country. And what we want to really see happen is that policies that are passed in Florida that have become really the bedrock of what's made Florida great, that other states look at that and say, you know what, we got to follow Florida's lead. Because if you're looking at New York, Illinois and California, they're dumpster fires. I mean, they're awful and their people are leaving in droves. It's time for other states, with Florida in the lead, to adopt sound public policy that really puts people first, allows people to chase the American dream, whether that's Florida or some other state.

[Clay Travis]

If Mamdani wins and he's New York City mayor, we know AOC still going to be in Congress Does Mom Donnie become a national face of the Democrat Party in your mind, is he impactful in next year's midterm election? Buck and I have been debating that. To what extent do you think he is resonant then or relevant if he is the mayor of New York City?

[Byron Donalds]

Yeah, I do. I think he's going to be one of the national faces of that party. I mean, look, they're really struggling to find out who's in charge anyway. You know, everybody's trying to jockey for position. I think that he's going to, you know, obviously his face and his name and what he says is going to carry a lot of weight in the Democrat Party because he's the mayor of New York. But look, I think from a political standpoint, I think he's terrible for the country, he's awful for New York and I think it's bad for Democrats because the public policy that these Marxists in the radical left wing side of their party, led by AOC and Mamdani and Bernie Sanders, that stuff is destructive. I think the policy sets are destructive. I don't. If somebody's a registered Democrat or registered Republican, that's one thing. But to be an out and out Marxist and really subscribing to policies that have never worked anywhere in the history of the planet, that's terrible for New York City. I think as a country, it's going to be something that everybody's going to be looking at and we have to learn that we cannot let these policies continue to flourish. And I mean, some places, like a Los Angeles, like a Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, their people are going to start demanding, I hope that they reverse course on these terrible policies that do not work for people.

[Buck Sexton]

Do you have any sense? I know you're still in a primary. It's very early on, but what kind of a Democrat do you think the Florida Democrats are going to run against you? Given how much this state has gotten more red under DeSantis tenure, are they going to try the head fake moderate or somebody? You think that's going to be a little more on the. Yeah, I'm a Democrat, let's turn Florida into California and see what happens. But what's your expectation? Or do you just not even have any expectation? Because it's too early to know.

[Byron Donalds]

I don't really care. I mean, to be honest with you, Governor DeSantis, during his leadership, he's really put the Florida Democrat Party on life support. They're in a bad shape over there. They know they're in bad shape over There, I don't really care. We're focused on, number one, seeing the people of Florida. Number two, making sure that the policy ideas that we're going to bring to build on top of the great success of Ron DeSantis and what's happened in Florida, that our state continues to flourish and that we prepare Florida for the next generation of growth. That's what we're focused on. Whatever the Democrats, whoever they choose to throw at us, and so be it, we'll take care of them, too.

[Buck Sexton]

Can you also. One more just. Can you just make fun of the Vols or just say something to antagonize Clay on sports, please, for me? Because I would do it, but I don't know enough.

[Byron Donalds]

No, I'm not going to do it. They actually look okay. They look better than my. So I got to be quiet.

[Clay Travis]

He's definitely running for governor.

[Buck Sexton]

Look at how. Look at how diplomatic he is, Clay.

[Clay Travis]

No, I was. I was. Buck beat me to it. I was just going to say, what's up with your Seminoles? I went and watched them beat Alabama and then I went and watched them get smoked by Miami. And y' all have lost four games in a row. I remember a couple of years ago, you came on and made the case for why you belong in the playoffs. I. I don't even know that you belong in the top half of the ACC right now. What's up?

[Byron Donalds]

Oh, my gosh, here we go. By the way, if you want to go back two years ago, yeah, we should have been in that playoff. I'm not going to bring it up again, but that was two years ago. Last year was a bad season. Started off great. Last four have not been good. The only thing I would say about the team is the games have been close. But you know, Coach Norvell, he's got a lot of pressure on him. He's got to turn this thing around. That's just the way it is.

[Clay Travis]

It's really. You think UF is going to do. By the way, you got an open job at UF too. I'm sure you this. The governor basically fired the governor of Louisiana after they got whipped by Texas A and M. This is. I don't know if Buck even saw this. Jeff Landry, we need to get him back on. Jeff Landry was like, this is ridiculous. Like, Brian Kelly's out, you know, I don't know if you saw this, Byron. He tried to show up. Brian Kelly did, and his fingerprint didn't work to let. Let him in the building. That's not A good sign. All right, so the governor just said, this is a mess. Florida, I know you're a Florida State fan, but the University of Florida's got an opening and that's going to be a huge hire, too. But I saw the governor of Louisiana wait in. That was like, Byron, he's a huge college football fan. You got a bunch of big programs there.

[Byron Donalds]

No, we do. I mean, look, there's a lot of names that are out there. You have the Notre Dame coach. He's been. He's been very good. He's been pretty good. Very successful. I heard the rumors about Nick Saban. Is he coming out of retirement? I'm not sure. You know, I don't know if Nick likes the nil. I think that's probably a deal killer.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's true.

[Byron Donalds]

I don't think he likes it, but we'll see.

[Clay Travis]

What do you think about Lane Kiffin? How do you think Lane. Yeah, how do you think Lane would do at UF if he came?

[Byron Donalds]

Well, look, speaking as. Speaking as somebody who's. Who's trying to run for governor, I think Lane will be a very good choice for the Florida Gators. Speaking as a Florida State Seminole. No, they can do better than him.

[Clay Travis]

Byron, we appreciate you. What should people know who are out there listening all over Florida, as many people do, if they want to support your campaign, where should they go?

[Byron Donalds]

Just go to byron donalds.com really excited for everybody's support so far, but it's all about the future of our state. We're going to take Florida to a whole nother level.

[Clay Travis]

Amen.

[Buck Sexton]

I love to hear it. Honestly, you got two guys that own property in Florida, one who lives here year round. We got to just keep Florida. Awesome. Byron, so I know that's your goal and that's what you're going to do as well. So God bless and thanks for making the time for us today.

[Byron Donalds]

Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

[Clay Travis]

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No, look, I mean, you don't have to be the fastest swimmer. You just have to be faster than the one the shark eats. Let's see. Rob in West Palm beach, wjno. What you got for us?

[Buck Sexton]

Hey, guys. Rob from West Palm. Love your show. And as a guy that loves the First Amendment and boobs to another guy that loves the First Amendment and boobs. Can you guys please stop saying fabulous? I think I said it today, to be fair. I think it was on me. I think the fabulous meter. I hit it a couple of times today. I do it in part to. To troll those of you who get mad at Clay for saying it a lot. But I have to take the heat on this one. I think I might have said it.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's right. But it's also a great word to use and we're happy. Podcast listener Scott A.A. what do we got here, Clay?

[Buck Sexton]

Just like the mayor race in New York. You have no idea what you're talking about. Gas stations are making a killing on gas. If not, explain how one station can be 50 cents a gallon lower than another station five miles away.

[Clay Travis]

Real estate prices and also the price at which they had to purchase their gas. I mean, this is one that I'll go to the mat on business for gas stations, gas station owners, you can flood us. The gas is not what they make the money on. I understand you want to be angry at somebody. By the way, you shouldn't be angry because gas Prices are at 4 years lows. 4 year lows thanks to President Trump. But they are often a loss leader and they bring people in to make money inside of the store. My favorite gas station in America is BUC EE's. BUC EE's charges almost nothing for gas because they know you're going to come.

[Buck Sexton]

In AI to weigh in AI to weigh in on this one, Clay. Net profit per gallon on average in America is 3 to 7 cents a gallon for gas stations. There you go.

[Clay Travis]

So they do not make their money. You can't make a living on that to run the business. And it is true that if you drive around, oftentimes the price of gas is most impacted by the cost of rent and or land for the gas stations. Which is why you pay way more for gas in rich parts of town than you do poorer parts of town because the rent's higher.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

And then also add on Kamala wasn't the best candidate, but she wasn't surprised by how it went for Kamala because she was a black woman. And unless you're a black woman, you can't even understand how difficult it is to be a black woman in America today over and over again in response to some of these questions too.

[Buck Sexton]

And so Katie Miller decided she had had enough of this. She was with CNN's Jake Tapper last night. And I just want you to listen to this. This is, this is just saying it, just letting it, letting it be said on the airplay, she is just another.

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[Clay Travis]

Whether that's in the White House in your press secretary role or whether that's a, you know, an air traffic controller, an air pilot, whether that's your doctor.

[Byron Donalds]

You know, you don't you want to.

[Clay Travis]

Hire the best for the role? Not just based on skin color. Jake, why did she get the job over John Kirby? She had the job long before John Kirby. I will just say she used to be a commentator on cnn, then she.

[Buck Sexton]

Was one on msnbc.

[Clay Travis]

And she was good at that. Like, I mean, without getting into the job I thought she did as press secretary. It didn't seem crazy to me because she was eloquent as a commentator. Why is she trained every four sentences.

[Buck Sexton]

To say she is a black queer, LGBTQ woman?

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[Buck Sexton]

Anyway, Katie Miller and Karen Finney, thank you so much. Can I just get a job? That is exactly. I mean, she's just saying the thing that we all know, which is that this woman built a career on being a black lesbian. And that is the primary thing that she says in every interview and that now she's independent. She says she's not even a Democrat anymore. That has been her. Her calling card in the media and in politics. And maybe she actually wasn't the best person for the job. This is what Katie Miller is saying. And it's funny to watch Jake Tapper like, okay, let's just.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, let's get out of here. Here's what I would say. And once you think about it, you will not be able to not see it. I've said, I've said on the show before, I think for the Democrat Party, your race and your sexuality, your identity is sword and shield. But go back in time and pretend that instead of saying, as a black gay woman or as a, you know, trans Hispanic person, like, they all give that to you as a prelude. It is the modern day royalty. Think about it, Buck. You know, back in the day when they used to talk about the divine right of kings, when the king decreed something, he would begin his decree by saying, as the 8th Royal Viscount of the Sheriff of Nottingham.

[Buck Sexton]

We say viscount. I don't think we pronounce the S, do we?

[Clay Travis]

Oh, I don't know. I've never actually heard anybody pronounce it.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't know.

[Clay Travis]

Maybe all of the royalty. All of the royalty is the precedence to the action as a divine right of king, as your noble background, you use your identity to justify your opinion. That's all the Democrats do now. They start off their opinion as Kari Jean Pierre is just one of the worst versions of it by saying, as a black gay woman, I believe, why do I care about your race or your sex?

[Buck Sexton]

This is reminding me. Just because you guys, people. One of the questions we get a lot. We got it. We were in a. Whoa, whoa. And thank you to all in whoa, whoa.

[Clay Travis]

Land.

[Buck Sexton]

Fort Wayne, Indiana. And we were out there recently. But one of the questions we get a lot is, you know, show prep. And I always say show prep is all the time. We're constantly sending our team and Clay and I are texting each other ideas and thoughts and everything. And one thing I said to you guys, I just thought, this is amazing. So Josh Barrow is a journalist and, and he's, he's a Democrat, but he's like one of these guys. He's. He's a little bit in the. Who's the guy who's very solid on the First Amendment. Wrong. A lot of other things. But, you know, I'm talking about Greenwald. He's a little bit like a Green.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

He'll actually call balls and strikes on certain things in the world. And I actually did Bill Maher show with Josh Barrow once. So he's. He's a high iq, reasonable guy. You can reason with him. Right. And he shared this, and it's the 202012 Democrat Party. I'm not going to read the whole thing. Versus the Democrat Party platform. Sorry. The Democrat party platform in 2012 versus Clay in 2024. 2012. Today, our economy is growing. Al Qaeda is weaker than any point since 9 11. A manufacturing sector is growing. We need to come together, continue what we started, reclaim the basic bargain for the largest middle class on earth, yada, yada, yada. You know, America is great. We have principles like, actually pretty. You can argue with whether that's what the Democrat Party really stood for then or whatever. But at least, you know, they're going through this Democrat Party 2024 platform. The DNC wishes to acknowledge that we gather together to state our values on lands that have been stewarded through centuries by the ancestors and descendants of tribal nations who have been here since time immemorial. Like, we're not imagining that these people have gone nuts, ok? They have gone nuts.

[Clay Travis]

This is a real thing.

[Buck Sexton]

And they no longer can make coherent arguments. They live in a fantasy land. I think this is another big story. Bill Gates. Bill Gates is kind of like, well, you know, actually, we don't think that climate change is an existential threat anymore. You don't say, Mr. Globalist Extraordinaire, climate change is going to kill everybody, start eating bugs, doesn't matter if it gives you man boobs. He is now saying, climate change is not an existential threat. Kind of like, you and me and everybody listening right now was right about this the whole time. Clay, these people are insane.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. When you talked about the land acknowledgement, it reminded me of the study that came out. Mentions of men in the 2012 versus 2024 Democrat primary, Democrat platform fell by 63%, fathers fell by 100%, and responsibility fell by 83%. Meanwhile, the references to LGBTQ rights increased 1,044%. So they have written out men, they have written out fathers from the Democrat platform, and they have 10 times the reference to gay people and trans rights. And so you're not making it up. I mean, the difference in just 12 years between the actual platform of Barack Obama 2012 and Kamala Harris 2024 is. It's not even in the same ballpark. It's frankly a completely different party.

[Buck Sexton]

And also, we're in an era now where you're allowed to say things without real fear of cancellation, and you're just allowed to say things that are manifestly and obviously true. And to bring it back to the Korean Jean Pierre situation for a minute, here is somebody who we are told is important because she is black, black and LGBTQ and has the following job and that those were important qualifications for that job, but you better not say that in any way she was helped in getting that job because she is black and lgbtq. That is a. That is a. An impossible proposition to square. That makes no sense. This has been true, by the way, of all affirmative action plans. This has been true of all these different racial set asides and racial entitlement things in America that we've all had to suffer through for decades, being lied to and told, you have to celebrate this and you can't talk about it at the same time, or this is why we're doing it, and you're not allowed to say it out loud. I knew a guy at a law firm, almost lost his job because he said at a diversity hiring event, well, it's great we're getting so much diversity going here. Someone didn't like the way he said it, and he almost got fired from his job. Now, this was many years ago, but things like, you can't say, I like diversity at the diversity hiring event, Clay, if you're a white guy, people might think you said it kind of funny. Well, that was the America that we were living in pre Trump.

[Clay Travis]

I think we still are because it's the foundation of the Democrat Party and it's sword and shield. To me, that's an easy way to distill it because they're allowed to wield it as a sword to attack you. She can say, I'm black and gay all the time, but as soon as you say any reference to her being black and gay, the shield comes up, and that is not able to be referenced by you. And so you can both attack and defend based on it, but you were not allowed to be attacked or in any way referenced it by others.

[Buck Sexton]

A perfect example of this is Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, who we were told by Joe Biden, I'm definitely hiring. I mean, we've talked about this many times on the show. Definitely hiring, not hiring. Appointing a black woman on the Supreme Court. So that cuts down. That's 97% of people in America or not. 97. It's maybe a little less than that.

[Clay Travis]

No, no, it's about 97% of lawyers because only about 3% of lawyers are black women.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you. So it is 90. So 97% of people are out of the pool of possibles right away. That skews in a pretty significant fashion what you're going to be looking at in terms of actual legal qualifications. Cognitive abilities, wisdom, career, all that stuff. Right. And yet they'll say we have to give it to a person with these qualifications, but you're not allowed to say that those qualifications were necessary for the job. That is cognitive dissonance that we do not have to live through or should not have to live through anymore. Yeah, you're right. The Democrats still are on this clay, but the culture has shifted. You can say these things now. I mean, listen to what Katie Miller said on cnn. I mean, she was. She was just laying it out there. One more thing while. While we have this. This is kind of like the grab bag. I'm doing a whole bunch of things at once. Where is the. It's not going so well for Kamala. Cut. Which one? Oh, Here we go. CNN's Abby Phillip talking to the Breakfast Club with Mr. The God and the rest of the crew there. Here is cut five. Listen to this one. What does she do this time around?

[Clay Travis]

And should she even run again?

[Buck Sexton]

You know, I've been talking to a lot of people about that because, as you know, this book was very controversial, and it was even more controversial than you think.

[Clay Travis]

I loved it.

[Buck Sexton]

In private. In private. I think there's a lot of controversy around it because I think that there are a lot of bridges that are burned here, whether she wanted to or not. And I think it will be very difficult for her to mend those fences. That she'll need in order to run if she just decide to run again. I think this book read kind of like somebody who was kind of done with it. So I will be interested to see if she decides to do it reads as a commologist, I can tell you it does read like someone who is bitter and possibly done with it. Clay. Even though you would think it would be rehabilitate the image so that there can be a round two run for Kamala Harris in 2028.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I think she's going to run because I did not thankfully have to read this book. But there is nothing else for which she is going to spend time. She just turned 60. She is not a mom. I know she's a stepmom. It's different than being a mom. She's not a grandma. I don't think she particularly likes her husband Doug. I don't think she wants to kick her feet up and just be a professor or you know, a president of a university.

[Buck Sexton]

You better watch what you say there or Doug might give you a little chin music there, Clay.

[Clay Travis]

You know, look, Doug's been known to slap around women. I don't think he's been known to slap around men very much. So I, I like my chances with Doug, let me tell you. We'll come back and we'll play a couple more of your cuts. But in the meantime. Personal loan company Prosper data breach 17 million users info involved names, addresses, phone numbers, dates of birth, partial Social Security numbers. It gets out there. You know it. Every single week there's more of them. Cyber threats everywhere. Which is why you need LifeLock. LifeLock will monitor hundreds of millions of data point a second for identity threats which is way more than anyone can do on their own. And Lifelock will alert you right away if anything pops up. If you become a victim of identity theft theft you will get your own restoration specialist who will fix that. Identity theft guaranteed or your money back. Your protection backed by Lifelocks million dollar protection package. Start protecting your identity today with a 30 day free trial at 1-800-LIFELOCK. You can also go online to lifelock.com use My Name Clay as the promo code for 30 days free. LifeLock.com promo code CLAY for 30 day free 30 days free. Terms apply. Keep up with the big political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast. Clay and Buck highlight trump replays from the week Sundays at noon eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Clay Travis]

Clay Travis Buck Sexton show we got a bunch of different talkbacks. Also our friend Ryan Gardusky who's going to be on later this week, remember it was about a year ago that he was let go for making a beeper joke on cnn. Let's play that you don't want to be called Nazis.

[Buck Sexton]

Stop doing that. And people no by me I never called you. I mean I'm not sitting here saying.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

I'm used to it. Yeah, well, I hope your beeper doesn't go off.

[Clay Travis]

I still think that's a. I still think that's a funny line and it's.

[Buck Sexton]

I think that's fair. I think that's fair game. I think that's fair game. But I think it was a Funn line and the fact that Ryan got banned from CNN and then picked up and actually like paid a decent wage to do a podcast on the Clam Buck Podcast network right afterwards because we take care of our people. But you know Ryan Gardusky, him and you both banned from cnn.

[Clay Travis]

That's correct. Still banned. Let's play some of these talk. By the way, we should mention the Fed, as was expected to be the case, has cut rates by a quarter point.

[Buck Sexton]

Point.

[Clay Travis]

They are not sure what they're going to do before the end of the year, whether they might cut again. Just FYI news wise. Lloyd from Wisconsin. HH Hey Clay.

[Buck Sexton]

But Lloyd from Wisconsin, love your show but could you please explain how you throw a half a touchdown either do you? Don't you keep saying it all the time now you need to explain it.

[Clay Travis]

Lloyd, you have recognized why they set the line at a half because it's more or less. If you don't throw a touchdown pass, you throw less than a half. If you do throw a touchdown pass, you throw more. So oftentimes in sports they will set the line on a half so they guarantee that one or the other is the side that's going to be the outcome. So I don't know, some people sometimes get confused by that. So Lloyd called in and asked. That's the answer. Wade from Raleigh, Durham Place where we're often number one. We love everybody listening in North Carolina, 106.1 FM talk radio. He is responding. I can't believe of all the things that I say that they got upset. One of a couple listeners did because I said people don't make a lot of money on the gas. Lloyd has owned the gas stations.

[Buck Sexton]

Listen, this is Wade.

[Byron Donalds]

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[Buck Sexton]

I just heard the guy talking about 50 cents a gallon spread on gas. I owned a gas station for eight years. There is very little if any profit.

[Byron Donalds]

In gas most of the time. I was lucky if I could make 3 or 4 cents a gallon, sometimes maybe 5 or 6, sometimes maybe lost.

[Buck Sexton]

2 or 3 cents a gallon. You got to keep your price competitive.

[Clay Travis]

One more. This is upset with our pronunciation. Police out there. Doug in Brunswick, Georgia.

[Buck Sexton]

Listen, please stop massacring the French language. It's a French word. It's vicomte. Say it with me. Vicomte. You're welcome. Well, that's, that's not the Americanized way to say it, buddy. And we got to speak American around here.

[Clay Travis]

So we do have to speak American. For instance, in Lexington, Kentucky there is a great town called Vercells. It is pronounced Vercell even though it is spelled as the French palace Versailles would be. So is it Viscount or I don't know how you pronounce it.

[Buck Sexton]

By the way, the American version is Viscount. Just to be clear, it is Viscount. It is not Viscount. So Buck nailed it. Always bet on Buck. Who is this fellow telling me to say with the French the snooty? Were you wearing a beret? You wearing a red beret over there buddy.

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