Hour 3 - FREEDOM

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 3 – FREEDOM | March 2, 2026

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers on breaking developments in the war involving Iran, its broader geopolitical consequences, American domestic and foreign policy responses, and the rapid political reality shifts shaped by these events. The hosts also spotlight the Texas Senate primaries, interviewing Attorney General Ken Paxton on his campaign and policy stances. The theme of 'freedom' emerges repeatedly—both regarding Iranian citizens in the context of regime change and American electoral integrity.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The War in Iran: Immediate Impact & Political Reactions

(03:06–16:41)

• Developments in Iran:

  • Clay Travis emphasizes the war in Iran as the biggest unfolding story, noting minimal economic shock (stock market flat, oil up 5%) but highlighting the gravity of military and humanitarian implications.
  • A terror-inspired attack in Austin, Texas, allegedly connected to pro-Iran/Iranian regime sympathizers, brings the foreign war’s effects to American soil.

• Political Ramifications:

  • Clay notes that Democrats have been quick to criticize President Trump’s moves, with John Fetterman standing as a rare exception supporting strong action on Iran.

    “Every member in the US Senate agrees we can't allow Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon. I'm baffled why so many are unwilling to support the only action to achieve that—empty sloganeering versus commitment to global security.”
    — Clay Travis reading John Fetterman (05:09)

  • The hosts argue that continued, reflexive opposition to Trump by Democrats is irrational given historic bipartisan unity in moments of global change (e.g., the Berlin Wall's fall).

• Broader Perspective:

  • Buck Sexton contrasts non-interventionists with anti-American sentiment on the left, arguing that freeing Iran is about basic global decency, not imperialism.

    “There are people... who hate America and this gives them an opportunity to say that everything that goes wrong in the world is America's fault.”
    — Buck Sexton (08:34)

  • They contend Iran should not be accepted as a perpetual “hellhole of terror” and praise Trump’s aggressive defense of human rights.

2. Middle East Alliances, Abraham Accords & October 7 Attacks

(11:26–16:41)

• Clay links the Hamas attack on Israel (Oct 7, 2023) to Iran's fear of expanding Middle East normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia, arguing this spurred the violence.
• Many regional powers (Saudi Arabia, Israel) have now allowed U.S. and Israeli forces to target Iran, reflecting a new, US-aligned coalition.
• A moving statement from an Iranian-American (Jamie Chadwell’s wife) is read to convey the profound hope and relief among Persians globally as regime change seems possible:

  “Persians all over the world are breathing a sigh of relief for the first time in 47 years... It’s not tears of joy over a war. These are tears of hope and a future for the nation and the people of Iran.”
  — Clay Travis reading Jamie Chadwell’s wife (15:18)

  • Clay observes the outpouring of support for Trump among Iranian-Americans, calling this a transformative generational moment.

3. The Alternatives and Moral Calculus

(16:41–18:01)

• Buck frames the alternative—endless bad-faith negotiations, Iranian regional aggression, and eventual nuclear armament—as unacceptable, reinforcing that the regime’s stated genocidal goals make its overthrow a moral imperative.

  “If the stated goal of your country is to destroy another country, maybe you don't get to be in charge of a country.” — Buck Sexton (17:46)

• Clay quotes Pete Hegseth’s take:

  “They chanted death to America and death to Israel, and Israel and the United States instead brought death to the Ayatollah.” — Pete Hegseth, relayed by Clay Travis (17:47)

4. Texas Senate Primary Interview: Ken Paxton

(24:13–35:01)

• Why Ken Paxton?

  • Paxton pitches himself as results-oriented, contrasting his productivity as Attorney General with John Cornyn’s decades in the Senate.

    “Pick any two week period of my office... I’ve done more in two weeks than [Cornyn’s] done in 40-plus years.”
    — Ken Paxton (24:53)

• Policy Priorities:

  • Election Integrity: Top concern; advocates for photo ID, limits on mail-in ballots, and proof of citizenship.
  • National Debt and Budget: Notes ballooning federal debt and need for fiscal discipline.
  • China and Iran: Sees China as the top threat; supports ongoing hardline policy on Iran.
  • Judicial Appointments: Praises Ted Cruz’s record, critiques Cornyn’s.
  • Second Amendment: Cites major differences with Cornyn, especially on recent firearm legislation.

    “There’s no way that Joe Biden is going to be congratulating me like he did John Cornyn.”
    — Ken Paxton (29:05)

• Primary and General Election Strategy:

  • Dismisses claims he can’t win statewide just because Cornyn’s camp says so, citing three statewide victories.
  • Argues against Republicans crossing over to vote for Democrat Jasmine Crockett, believing GOP unity is essential.

• Austin Attack and Texas Security:

  • Paxton ties domestic violence to border policy lapses, advocating for more vetting and resources for DHS and Border Patrol.

• Runoff Scenarios & Party Unity:

  • Warns against unnecessary intra-party spending if he emerges as front-runner; urges focusing GOP dollars on general election battles rather than continued primary infighting.

5. Free Speech, Cancel Culture, and the Evolving Role of Musicians

(40:28–43:08)

• Buck and Clay lament how classic rock musicians’ anti-establishment spirit has been supplanted by calls for more regulation and conformism in recent years.
  • “Regulate us more is not what I would characterize rock musicians historically as being in favor of.”
    — Clay Travis (42:02)
  • Jokes about having to change theme music due to political disputes with artists’ estates.

6. Iranian and Veteran Listener Perspectives

(43:08–44:55)

• Veteran Bryant: Calls in to express that Iran was responsible for many American deaths and injuries in Iraq, faults previous administrations for inaction.

  “Iran’s killed more of our people than any other nation in the last 30, 40 years... The mullahs are toast. Sucks for them. They earned every bit of it.”
  — Bryant, Iraq veteran (43:36)

• Mansoor, Iranian-American: Highlights that Iranian athletes compete under duress, their families threatened, symbolizing the regime’s brutality.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Democratic Opposition:

  “A reflective anti Trump policy is, we all know, moronic…This is a modern day Berlin Wall moment.”
  — Clay Travis (06:20)

• On the War’s Stakes:

  “It would be a repudiation of the single achievement, if you can call it that, of eight years of Obama foreign policy.”
  — Buck Sexton (08:16)

• On American Exceptionalism:

  “We don't have to accept that Iran just gets to be this, this hellhole of terror…Trump derangement syndrome is real.”
  — Buck Sexton (10:36)

• Firsthand Persian Joy and Hope:

  “Persians all over the world are breathing a sigh of relief…It's not tears of joy over a war. These are tears of hope and a future for the nation and the people of Iran.”
  — Clay Travis (reading) (15:18)

• Summing Up the U.S.-Iran Fight:

  “They chanted death to America and death to Israel, and Israel and the United States instead brought death to the Ayatollah.”
  — Pete Hegseth, relayed by Clay Travis (17:47)

• On Second Amendment Differences:

  “There’s no way that Joe Biden is going to be congratulating me like he did John Cornyn.”
  — Ken Paxton (29:05)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• War in Iran — Economic & Political Reaction: 03:06–08:11
• The Democrats’ Position & Global Historic Moments: 05:09–08:11
• Why American Action Matters: 08:11–11:26
• Middle East Alliances, Abraham Accords Backstory: 11:26–16:41
• Personal Perspective: Iranian-American Reaction: 15:18–16:41
• Alternatives and War Morality: 16:41–18:01
• Ken Paxton Interview: 24:13–35:01
• Classic Rock, Cancel Culture: 40:28–43:08
• Iraq Veteran Call: 43:08–44:02
• Iranian-American Call (Mansoor): 44:02–44:55

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Tone & Language

The hosts combine urgency and seriousness regarding security and freedom, with frequent asides demonstrating their characteristic humor and cultural commentary. They embrace direct criticism of political opponents while celebrating what they see as transformative, hopeful moments for freedom both in the U.S. and abroad. Guest and caller contributions reinforce the personal, emotional dimensions of the topics discussed.

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Conclusion

This episode of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton’s show stands as a sweeping, impassioned defense of aggressive American leadership on the world stage, unapologetic partisanship in domestic politics, and a celebration of Western freedoms. With voices from both political and personal fronts, it suggests the still-evolving Iran conflict could become a new global touchstone—akin to the Berlin Wall moment—for a generation yearning for liberty. The interplay between foreign policy, election integrity, and cultural battles makes for a wide-ranging, engaging listen.

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Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Big primary in Texas tomorrow. Ken Paxton will join us at the bottom of the hour. Other contenders between now and then as well. We have put out invites to everyone. But the biggest story going on certainly right now and maybe for the next several weeks is the war in Iran. We played earlier for you. The latest updates from President Trump, a couple of details off the top. Stock market not moving basically flat, oil prices up 5%. That is not a very substantial rise there. So the economic reaction to the war so far has not been incredibly significant. Right now as we are talking to all of you, something unfortunately that may be very important for many of you out there is to remain aware and vigilant as there is an update right now in Austin, Texas having to do with a what seems like a terror inspired attack on innocent people out on the the night in the bar community when a someone who was wearing a pro Allah and pro Iran shirt decided that they were going to kill innocent people. People will let you know what the Austin police say about that.

[Buck Sexton]

I think he also had photos like posters of Iranian leaders in his home. So he's leaving a bit of a clue as to the motivation.

[Clay Travis]

I think, I think we might going on, one might see, yes, positive Los Angeles, Washington, D.C. new York City. The response from people of Iranian descent, immigrants and their first and second generation offspring here has been incredible. President Trump being praised significantly. We haven't talked about the political ramifications of this thus far, Buck, because obviously we're in the midst of a war. But it didn't stop Democrats from immediately lining up with the exception of of John Fetterman. And here is something John Fetterman posted a few hours ago that I think gets at the crux of this issue. Buck, every member in the US Senate agrees we can't allow Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon. I'm baffled why so many are unwilling to support the only action to achieve that empty sloganeering versus commitment to global security. Which is it? I thought that Was well said by Senator Fetterman, who has become the sanest of all Democrats. We certainly wouldn't have anticipated this when, when his election was going on, the race was going on. But Buck that kind of gets to it and what I would say in general is a reflective anti Trump policy is, we all know, moronic, right? You can't be 100% opposed to basically everything that anyone does. But this is a modern day Berlin Wall moment. And I was a kid. You may not have even been born back in 1989 when the Berlin Wall came down. I don't remember at the time Democrats running around saying, oh, we're opposed to everything that's going on with President George Bush senior, the older Bush when he was in office then I remember sort of a universal celebration of the fact that freedom was coming to many countries in Eastern Europe and the wall between east and West Berlin was coming down was seen as the ultimate triumph in our battle against Russia in the Cold War here. And again, I understand that a lot of people are not connecting all these things. I think they should be. Venezuela has more freedom than it has had in decades. Cuba is closer to freedom than it has been in decades. And Iran right now is freer probably than it has been in decades already. With a hoped for continued movement towards more freedom. President Trump is taking the most aggressive policies in favor of basic human rights that we have seen in generations in this country. And meanwhile Democrats are lining up and saying after. This is just. I do think it's worth mentioning that just a couple of years ago they were all over campuses demanding freedom for people in the Middle east, even though it was freedom in Gaza, which is one of the most restrictive areas on the planet. And Hamas is a terror organization that runs Gaza. Now we have President Trump potentially liberating 90 million people, giving more basic human rights to women around the world. The goal here is than has been done by any president in generations. And Democrats perspective is we can't be in favor of this. They're in an intractable position, it seems to me, when it comes to trying to justify their, their attacks on Trump in this manner.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, keep in mind it not only would be a huge win for Trump, it would be a repudiation of the single achievement, if you can call it that, of eight years of Obama foreign policy. And Obama is certainly the most remarkable Democrat politician of the 21st century. The most lasting legacy transformed the country, obviously, I think made it much worse in a lot of ways. But he did matter. He certainly had an impact his whole mideast policy was built around getting some deal with Iran. And if Trump can take this in the direction of the mullahs are gone, there's no nuke threat anymore and Iran is going to be a normal country. You know, why can't Iran be a normal country? Think of how many other countries there are around the world. And this is the truth about America. For all these people that want to talk about imperialism and look what we're doing. And I know there's a lot of stuff out there right from the well, sometimes there are principled non interventionists and then there are I hate America. So whenever America does something I just oppose it. People too, they're not the same thing. There are people that just don't want us getting involved. They never want Republican Democrat, they don't want us getting involved with other people's stuff. Fine, valid. I understand that there are other people, they congregate on the left who just hate America and this gives them an opportunity to say that everything that goes wrong in the world is America's fault. But Clay, the truth is, you know, the people of Paraguay aren't up late at night wondering if like America's going to invade or bomb them because they're a normal country that minds their own business for the most part and is reasonable with their neighbors and self governing and that's great and that's fine. Same thing with Thailand. You know, same thing with go down the list so many countries and obviously talk about all these countries in Europe. We don't have to accept that Iran just gets to be this, this hellhole of terror and terror sponsoring and all this other stuff for all perpetuity because we actually don't have to accept that and Trump certainly doesn't. So I think that we are certainly living in remarkable times. It's an exciting period of change. It's also one of caution. As we noted, there have been strikes against US bases. We have lost brave service members. There are going to be lives on our side lost in this process. The question is how many. So that's something else that we have to keep in mind too. So Clay, I think time will tell whether or not this is the most brilliant stroke of military slash diplomacy of the Trump administration or if we are getting ahead of our skis on this one. But I'm feeling pretty good about it. Democrat. The Democrats criticism of it, to your point, is not really much more than Trump is doing it. So it has to be bad and I really mean that. That's it. It doesn't go beyond that. There's not some grappling with the intellectual realities of what Trump has done. And notice that Democrats are perfectly happy to have 90 million Iranians consigned to perpetual fear, tyranny and servitude to a theocracy. As long as it means that Donald Trump doesn't get to get a win, Trump derangement syndrome is real.

[Clay Travis]

I think this is important, too, and we haven't really talked about it very much. For people out there who saying there's no real plan in place, again, we don't know who's going to rule. I am confident that Marco Rubio and Pete Hagseth and JD Vance and President Trump have an idea on that. Also pay attention to the fact that Iran is just haphazardly sending missiles all over the Middle east and striking all these different Middle Eastern countries. And those Middle Eastern countries, by and large, are now allied with the United States. And I think this is so supremely important. Saudi Arabia, in particular, if you go back and you say, why did Sep. Why did October 7, 2023 happen? Why did 1200 innocent Israelis get murdered? Why were over 200 kidnapped by Hamas? What was the intent there? They were terrified that the Abraham Accords, which is a peace agreement, a normalizing of relations, was going to expand and include Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia and Israel were basically going to say, hey, we're in favor of commerce. We're not going to allow religious difference to divide us forever. We want to see peace in the Middle East. And Iran, we, which was funding Hamas, which was funding Hezbollah, which was funding all of these different terror groups around the world that were striking in Israel, but also everywhere else, they said, we can't allow this to happen. And that was one of the reasons, primary reason, I believe, why Hamas attacked when they did. Now, what are you seeing? All these different Middle Eastern countries are allowing the United States and Israel to. To use their airspace to be able to rain down holy hell on Iran. And there are reports out there that, and that is why we always said pay attention not to what people say, but that what they do, that both Saudi Arabia and Israel were encouraging President Trump to take out this Islamic leadership in Iran. Saudi Arabia couldn't say it publicly now that Iran has attacked them. A lot of these other countries have now come forward and condemned Iranian action. And let me read you one comment we'll get. We got a bunch of callers and everything else. But Buck, I've got a friend, Jamie Chadwell is the head coach of Liberty Football. His wife is Iranian and she just posted Something that I thought was really good. He tagged me in it on social media. He said people have been inquiring about our feelings about what's going on in Iran. Here's what she said. Honestly, I don't have enough words to describe what it means to us. As well as millions of Persians who sacrificed everything to flee the harshness of the regime. My parents were crying tears of joy on Saturday. Persians all over the world are breathing a sigh of relief for the first time in 47 years. It's not tears of joy over a war. These are tears of hope and a future for the nation and the people of Iran. It's about having solace. It's declaring justice for the thousands upon thousands of innocent people the Islamic regime has imprisoned, falsely accused and killed. It's for the parents who had to search through hundreds of body bags laying in a yard just to find their deceased child brutally murdered. For only wanting to voice their opinion, to dance in the streets and to not have to cover their hair. For the child who wanted a future for freedom. Please don't ever take your freedoms here in the US for granted. I never understood how people here could despise the US So much, how they could burn the flag, how they could protest against the United States, Everything that has been given to them, I guess, because they never had to live a life that took all those freedoms away. Signed a hopeful and grateful Persian American. I thought that was well said, because I think that is the immense outpouring of joy that you are seeing. And it goes to. I don't see how you can make this political buck. When I watched in Georgetown, all of these Iranian people, when I watched outside of the White House, the pure joy of their celebration. When I watched it in la, they shut down Wilshire Boulevard, for those of you who know la, filled with a huge, joyful Iranian march in favor of freedom that they want to see in their country. When I saw New York City, the people who have dealt with actual oppression, the people who have dealt with the taking away of their basic human rights, the people who have struggled for 50 years living under this harsh, oppressive, oppressive regime, they understand what has been done here, and they view President Trump as a heroic force for good in the Middle East. And I think that that is something that it's going to be very hard if we can manage to change the trajectory of this country in the direction of basic human rights and freedom. It's a transformative move that will echo throughout the Middle east for generations to come. So are there challenges? Yes. But I do think that statement really got to the heart of what we're seeing from so many Persians around the world?

[Buck Sexton]

And think about this too, Clay. What was the alternative? Yeah, the alternative is to keep this dance of bad faith negotiations from the Iranian mullah side going until they get a nuke or until we get tired of it and decide to do what we did. And it's not like things were fine and quiet over there. They have been causing problems all over the region. That's what they do. They believe in this. You know, it's the Islamic revolution that they think they are the custodians of. They're not. It's a revolutionary government. The same way that the Bolsheviks in the Soviet Union thought of themselves as revolutionaries with global ambitions, I might add. They were colonialist in their mindset, actually. They, they wanted to expand their authority and their power in the region. They, they were not looking to mind their own business and they wanted to wipe Israel off the map. And that was a stated goal of the regime. If the stated goal of your country is to destroy another country, maybe you don't get to be in charge of a country.

[Clay Travis]

And there's a great line, great line from Pete Hegseth where he said they chanted death to America and death to Israel, and Israel and the United States instead brought death to the Ayatollah.

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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, welcome back in Clay Travis, BUCK Sexton show. We are joined now by one of the three Republicans who is running for the Senate nomination in the state of Texas. Tomorrow is election day primary voting taking place in Texas, Arkansas and North Carolina. Ken Paxton joins us now. I know you've been running all over the state. What is your message here? Closing moments, as many people will be going to the polls tomorrow, I know a lot of people have already early voted. Why should they vote for you tomorrow? Attorney General PAXTON it's simply this, get it.

[Ken Paxton]

We, I get, I get results versus John Cornyn's last 40 years in office. And I've asked in every meeting since April 8, I've asked every single person whether it's one person or 3,000, can you name one single good accomplishment of John Cornyn in 40 plus years in office? And no one's ever given me an answer. And I respond and say take any two week period of my office, my time in office as attorney general, other than Christmas and Thanksgiving, and I guarantee you pick any two weeks. I've done more in two weeks than he's done in 40 plus years. If we want somebody to go up there and fight for us and get stuff, something done for state of Texas, I'm the guy.

[Buck Sexton]

Mr. Attorney General, what's top of the agenda? You're telling us that you can get things done. That's great. What are the kind of things that as a senator representing the wonderful state of Texas where we have so many listeners and we're very grateful for all of them, what are the things that you would want to seek to add to your roster of accomplishments in office as a senator this time around?

[Ken Paxton]

Yeah. So I think President Trump hit it over the fence. He hit the most important issue which he asked Congress to pass immediately, which was the voter integrity, where we, we protect our elections from mail in ballots. We have photo ID and we make sure that people are citizens. If we can't fundamentally do that, then we are at risk of losing everything else because there are many, many states who are not using photo id, who are having massive mail in ballots we cannot track and we don't have secure elections. And without that, nothing else matters beyond that. I mean, since John Cornyn has been there, let's see, the time of George Washington, the time of John Cornyn, 6.2 trillion in debt. Now we're 38 trillion since John's been there. The federal budget is out of control. We got to figure that out. I'm very interested in what's going on with China. I think they are number one threat. Obviously, we've got a RAM right now interested in judicial appointments because I have to deal with them every day. Ted Cruz has done a great job helping the president to make good picks. On the other hand, John Cornish picks have not been so great. So those are just a few of the issues that I care about. There's certainly more than that.

[Clay Travis]

We're talking to Ken Paxton, Attorney General of Texas. He's running tomorrow in the primary. Let me give you a couple of arguments to respond to we've had on the show so far. One is Ken Paxton can't win in the general. The other is people should go vote for Jasmine Crockett instead of worrying about the Republican Senate race that's going on. Your response to those two, which are two different arguments we've had made today on the show?

[Ken Paxton]

Well, first of all, I think it's interesting that this is a John Corner argument because he can't win the primary. I've won three statewide races over a period of 12 years, so the naysayers, I'm three and oh, I haven't lost a single race. As a matter of fact, I've won 18 races overall. So it's great to decide now that I can't win a statewide race when I've won three in a row. There's no evidence for this. John Cornyn makes this story up just like he's made up his whole record over the last year. And the reality is, if you actually do the polling, which I've seen, I do as well or better than him, not significantly, but it's not like I do worse. Every poll I've seen, I've done as well or better than him. So. And this idea that Republicans should go vote for Jasmine Crockett, I mean, I wouldn't do it because I want to make sure that we have the right person running in the Republican primary to take on the Jasmine Crockett. Let the Democrats sort that out. We're going to beat either one of them because we're still a Republican state. We haven't lost a statewide election since 1994.

[Buck Sexton]

And just to be clear, we had invited on Cornyn everyone for tomorrow, and we'll see if he chooses to come on at some point here in the near future. But Attorney General Paxton, what's the on policy? You know, I don't know if you guys know each other, you and Cornyn, or not personally. Well, it's not about that. On policy on decision making, when it comes to wielding the power entrusted to you as a senator by the people of Texas, where are you guys different? Where do you differ ideologically, or where do you differ when it comes to how you would actually vote?

[Ken Paxton]

I think on many things. I give you example, judges, budget, but just things like Second Amendment issues where he helped Joe Biden pass one of the most restrictive Second Amendment bills in my lifetime. There's no way that Joe Biden is going to be congratulating me like he did John Cornyn. I would not be out there pushing amnesty like he's been pushing over the last fourth decade. I would have been for the border wall. Now he suddenly is, but he wasn't for a decade. I've got 15 to 20 clips of him saying we shouldn't do a border walk. On the other hand, he also claims to be a big Trump fan, And yet in 2016, he said Trump was an albatross around our neck. And then in the most recent election, he said that Trump's day had passed and that we should elect somebody else. I was on the Trump bandwagon because I thought he would be the best choice. This guy now suddenly is, but for his entire career, he's been in opposition to Donald Trump.

[Clay Travis]

We're talking to Ken Paxton, ag I know you're running for the Senate right now, but there was the attack that happened in Austin over the weekend. I know there's been a couple of press conferences about that. What can you tell us about that shooting? What do we need to know? What should we know from a Texan perspective on that investigation?

[Ken Paxton]

I think the most important thing to me is just what the investigation turns up about connections and whether this guy was operating alone or whether he was part of a bigger plan to do damage in this country. I've been concerned. You know, of course, I sued Joe Biden, what, 20 times, just over immigration. And my biggest concern was this type of thing happening. We opened up our border. We would not be able to vet people we'd not be able to control. And obviously, this guy got his citizenship legally. But it's now a bigger problem than ever because we have so many unvetted people, we don't know where they are. And if I'm an American enemy, for sure, I've planted sleep sleeper cells in the country.

[Buck Sexton]

It's certainly very concerning, given what we just saw in Austin, that there are likely more radicals who will be activated from within our midst. It seems like the Democrats are just never going to learn the lesson on this. They're never going to understand what that threat actually is in this country. Is there anything that you think needs to be done legislatively differently to address this? Is there anything that you would say, hey guys, something that would make us safer here at home that we could enact starting in 2027 when I'm in the United States Senate, Is anything come to mind or is it just enforce the laws we've already got?

[Ken Paxton]

Well, enforce the laws we already have, but also more resources to start vetting some of these people that came into our country that we haven't tracked down yet that we need to track down for sure. People like this who could do damage to our country. So I would say more resources to the people that are dealing with dhs, the border patrol, people that the Democrats don't want to fund are the very people right now that we need. Not just less funding, we need more funding.

[Clay Travis]

It seems clear that you're going to be at least one of the two that advances to the runoff. And we're talking to Ken Paxton. I know the early voting has been substantial and a lot of people still have to vote tomorrow. What is your anticipation for what will take place tomorrow? There's three primary candidates. One of you will be eliminated. Do you expect that you'll be among the top two?

[Ken Paxton]

I expect I'll be the number one. And as a matter of fact, I don't know. It's hard to measure from early buddy. But just some of our analytics, I mean there's, there's, there is a slight possibility. Obviously there's, there's not just two other people race total of seven others. So there's eight people. So I tell people it's like playing basketball, seven on one, trying to outscore everybody while they play offense and defense. So it's challenging to get, to get to get through this without a run up. But if anybody has a shot at that, it's me.

[Clay Travis]

If you are first place runoff, I mean, it's going to cost a lot of money. If you win substantially, should there be just a recognition that you're going to be the nominee and start to focus because it does seem likely that Democrats will know their nominee come tomorrow night.

[Ken Paxton]

Yes. And I say this because already Cornyn spent $100 million, I've spent 3 million. And if I come out on top, the spending on his side needs to stop. It makes no sense. If we care about electing a Republican from Texas and Republicans in Michigan and Georgia and these other states, they got to stop wasting money on a primary. 100 million is enough. Do not go in on another $50 million to try to make me unelectable. Which is what Cornyn said his goal is. I'm going to make Ken Paxton unelectable. Well, that is. That's great if we only care about electing incumbents, but I thought we were about electing Republicans. And the strategy of spending another 50 million on John Cornyn after he loses the first round makes no sense if you actually do care about electing Republicans.

[Clay Travis]

Do you think if you win this primary, that President Trump had a rally in Corpus Christi going into the weekend and he chose. I think he basically said, I'm endorsing you and Wesley Hunt and John Cornyn. He said, you know, basically, I'm not picking a side. Do you think when he sees the Texans come out and pick a side, do you think he'll weigh in and say, hey, we basically have our nominee now. What do you anticipate from the White House?

[Ken Paxton]

Well, you're gonna be shocked. I never. I never completely anticipate what the President might do. You know this. I'm a. I've been a big fan of his. I have been a supporter of his since 2016. I was one of two people, Troy Nelson, I were the only two people that showed up elected officials when he announced for president because at the time, defenses was surging and Trump had all these investigations and indictments, all this stuff. But I do know this. I trust him. He's made a lot of really good decisions, and I'm not going to pretend that I would know exactly what he's going to do, because I don't.

[Clay Travis]

He is running for Senate tomorrow. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, I presume. You tell everybody, get out and vote. You want big numbers.

[Ken Paxton]

Well, I'd say get out.

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in to Clay Ann Buck. You know I love the Tsar of talk, Michael Berry. I thought I thought he was a little rough on our on our lit intro though there I'm just gonna be honest with you as I'm listening to some Van Halen like I think the upbeat intro is a Great way to get back into things. I think the lit is very much of our. So, you know, I'm just. I'm just. I'm just throwing a little. A little flag here. And then I think that lit is actually very, very solid for. For our vibe and our show here. And if Mr. Barry prefers that we had Toby Keith in the intro or something, well, you know, that's his. That's his prerogative. I just, I think that, you know, we have a pretty good intro music. Do you agree with this one?

[Clay Travis]

I agree. Complete. Can we say this now? I always say that. Then I say it, even though I don't know if the answer. Like the old Rush musicians were trying to extort us after Rush passed. I think we can say that now. And if we're not supposed to.

[Buck Sexton]

I think you just did.

[Clay Travis]

So I think we could say it now. But people are like, why'd you change the music? Well, because they were extorting us and they hate everything that we stand for. And we said, well, we'd rather not continue to give people who are communists our money. And so we wanted to find a band that really liked us and liked the show and liked Rush and wanted to honor him.

[Buck Sexton]

And that's how we're on something wild today. If rock and roll were alive and well today, you would have more musicians who were at least quietly, if not publicly right of center. Because to be truly rock and roll in the current environment, you couldn't be some communist leftist, yada yada, you know?

[Clay Travis]

Well, I mean, this is the funniest thing about the whole culture. And I do think the culture has shifted in many ways. And I think, you know, we talked about this last week with the U.S. men's hockey team and the way the nation as a whole responded compared to left wingers. Remember that back in the day, Woodstock was opposed to the government in power. You know, the.

[Ken Paxton]

The.

[Clay Travis]

The musicians, the rockers, everything else. What we have seen happen is so many musicians nowadays are saying, please regulate us more. Remember during COVID when everybody was like, go get your. Put your mask on and wear your vaccine. And you're like, well, this is. Get your vaccines and wear your mask. Like, this is not like rock and roll old school, where it's like, rage. Remember, Rage against the Machine. Like, they're raging for the machine now. Go support Joe Biden or even Green Day. I know they recently were out there and Green Day was all in favor of Biden and left wing. It's really kind of crazy. Regulate us more is not what I would characterize rock musicians historically as being in favor of let's get some of

[Buck Sexton]

your talk backs here. Podcast listener Bryant Play c on that talkback listen. Iraq 2009, 2010, 2011 and every bomb that got dropped on us over there that blew up on the roadside came from Iran. And we kept tracking and we kept telling the Obama administration and they never wanted to do anything about it. Iran's killed more of our people than any other nation in the last 30, 40 years. True. I've been saying it true. Really. Hundreds and hundreds of Americans killed and thousands severely wounded, maimed, lost an arm, lost a leg because Iran hates us and was they were operating in a country that was not their country. They were doing this to us in Iraq just because they could. So they're scumbags. The mullahs are toast. Sucks for them. They earned every bit of it.

[Clay Travis]

Mansoor from New York City. We asked for Iranian callers. He called us in back before all of this happened. Mansoor, what's your family's reaction, your friend's reaction? We'll let you have the final word on the show today.

[Ken Paxton]

Thanks so much guys. It's great to be on the show with you again. First, let me explain to you about something about the Iranian national football team. I ran it. I ran a team, a semi pro team here in New York, New Jersey. A lot of former players for the national team who explained to me at the time, a lot of the guys that are on the national team right now do not want to play under the same flag for the Iranian team, but they're forced to because the family has been threatened to be killed. So they play and they have to sing the national anthem while on live tv. That's another thing that will force.

[Clay Travis]

Well, we're finishing. Maybe you can call in tomorrow. Positive reaction. Got 10 seconds. I think the reaction would have been positive. Masour can call back. God bless the country.

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