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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Start your 7 day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox one for complete terms and conditions. Fox one, we live for live streaming now. All right, third hour of Clay and Buck gets going right now, everybody. Thank you for being here with us. And something that got, well, honestly just moved down the news priority list because of some of the huge things that.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Have been going on this week.
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Buck Sexton
But want to spend some time to talk to you about it because it is one of those broad conversations about politics and America and what's going on today that answers a lot of questions right now and also gives us a sense as to what the future is.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Going to look like.
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Buck Sexton
What is going on when it comes to men and women and their views of life specifically for Gen Z adults. Now to all of our boomers, boomers listening, we love you. This matters, as you know, because these are your kids or grandkids in many cases, and they shall inherit this republic of ours. And there's some really stark differences. This is from NBC News polling data about people 18 to 29 years old. So that's Gen Z. I am a gray beard millennial. Clay, what are you? Silent generation. You're some, you're some other, you're not a millennial.
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Clay Travis
I am the youngest Gen X. So I am the youngest generation member of the generation that has saved America by supporting Donald Trump more than any other generation.
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Buck Sexton
My older brother, who is also of.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Your generation, you guys are the same age.
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Buck Sexton
Mason, very quick to point out that Gen X probably has the best generation rep right now. It certainly in the, in the media world, like everyone's like Gen X just getting it done all cool and you know, collected millennials. We got some rough stuff because we complained a lot about the housing and mortgage meltdown stuff in 2008 and what.
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Clay Travis
That did to our careers.
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Buck Sexton
But let's, let's look at the Gen Z situation right now because, Clay, perhaps this is something you've addressed in your upcoming book, balls. Yes, men, men are trending in a very clear direction in that generation. So young men, young adult men right now. This is from NBC News data. Young men who voted for Trump. So Gen Z, 18 to 29 who voted for Trump. What is important to a personal definition of success? 34% of them said having children, 33% financial independence, 30% fulfilling job, career, 29% being married. And then they go into some other things, doing what you want, being grounded spiritually. 24% got to get those are rookie numbers on spiritual Grant, but, you know, you got to get that up a little bit. Making community proud, all this stuff, right? Women who voted for Harris, this is what was really stark. So remember, young men who vote for Trump, young women who vote for Harris, that's what we're looking at here. 51% said, fulfilling job or career. That's the number one thing by far. Fulfilling job, having money to do what you want. 46% emotional stability, which a lot of these women got to work on, I got to tell you. 39% financial independence. 32% using your talents. 37% owning a home. 20% having children. Clay and being married were tied for them at the very bottom of the list at 6%. This is a vision of two paths for the genders in America as defined by political affiliation today or separated by political affiliation today. All these women who are voting for Harris, who are in their 20s, don't care at all about family formation, which is stunning, honestly. You see that data? It is stunning.
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Clay Travis
I think it's a sign. And this is probably going to get clipped, so prepare yourselves for the headline. I love it when he does this.
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Buck Sexton
Whereas Media Matters.
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Clay Travis
Go for it. Yeah. I think it's a sign that women are, have been sold a mass delusion. A lot of young women. And let me explain why. The only reason to want, in my opinion, a fulfilling job and a career is so you can afford to have a family. I, I, I, look, there are relatively few people whose careers are so important that they change the world. Ok. If you told me right now, hey, Elon Musk. Yeah. He might not be a great dad. I think he's an incredible and he might be a great dad. I'm not saying it's a negative, but I'm saying, like, his career is so important potentially to the future of the civilization that I can say, okay, that seems like a really good use of his time. You would want, I think, people who are supreme geniuses, if you could have two kids or you could solve cancer, I would submit to you. Ideally, you could do both. But if you had to choose, curing cancer would be a better societal benefit than you having two kids. Most people have jobs, though, not to cure cancer or to solve all the issues that Elon Musk is trying to solve, but just to be able to have the resources to have children, it's.
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Buck Sexton
A, it's a means to an end to paying bills. That's why you get paid for it. If it were fun, they wouldn't have to pay you for it. Now, some jobs, there's like Clay and I are lucky. We both love our jobs and we get paid for it. But it took a long time to get to a place where that was the case. And this is the reality for a lot of women. Clay, right now. I saw this from my graduating class at Amherst, okay? At Amherst College, there are all these women who at that time were going into management consulting like McKinsey, Bain, remember where Mitt Romney was, or they went into investment banking. That is a situation where you are going to work 80 hours a week for years and years and years to make money. You are not curing cancer. You are not. All of the women that I knew who went into that dropped out. All of them dropped out because that is not the way that they want to spend their lives. But society had set them up for this. Society had convinced them that this is what they should do.
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Clay Travis
I also think, and Again, these are 18 to 29 year olds, women who voted for Harris, men who voted for Trump. I also think it is likely to be the number one complaint of the Harris voting women that they can't find good men worth dating and having families with. But all of the young men who are Trump voters actually want to get married and have kids and the women don't want to. And here's the other thing about this that I think is indicative of having been sold a false bill of goods. And by the way, 2882 maybe you are in this 18 to 29 year old female group and you want to react. Maybe you are in the male group. Uh, but what is interesting to me about this as well Buck, is the women should be the ones focused on having children because and I don't want to throw anybody into a full panic here, but a 29 year old woman who hasn't gotten married and hasn't had kids has a biological clock to worry about that a 29 year old man does not have in the same way to worry about. So if anything these should be flipped Buck, because women, because of biology have to think about having children at younger ages than men do.
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Buck Sexton
If you're over 35, it's a geriatric, it's officially medically a geriatric pregnancy. That's what they call it, a geriatric pregnancy. And the risks factors go up all across. They should tell people this in schools. By the way. I didn't learn this stuff until I was an adult, to be honest with you. I didn't know all the things, all the risk factors that increase. Now I'm not saying that, that people can make their own life choices. Some people just want to have a career. Some people don't have a family. It's not about denying anybody a choice. It's about giving them the facts and the reality of what is likely and what is true in general or true in the aggregate about these things. And for most women, I mean, I'll put it this way, Clay. Most guys that I know, if they weren't trying to date and. Or get, you know, date and get married, would work a lot less hard. You know what I mean? They'd spend a lot more time and leisure and whatever, but they want to build something. They'll want to be providers. There's something instinctive and instinctual for men about this. For women, they are generally, not always generally set up differently for what will be a successful and happy life path, but the influences. Now, you grew up in a more traditional Americana place than I did.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
So I can speak from the New.
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Buck Sexton
York City perspective, which is the same in Los Angeles and very similar in Chicago and very similar in D.C. and, you know, these urban centers where the women of my generation were all told, you need to be. You need to compete with men in the workplace.
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Clay Travis
You.
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Buck Sexton
You need to spend the same kind of hours. You need to put your career first and figure out family later. And I have seen it now that I'm in my 40s. This has resulted in life path disappointment and in some cases, devastation for a lot of very talented and, you know, wonderful young women who now can't have families or never had a family. And they want to. I'm not talking to the people that don't want to. They want to, but they got their timelines mixed up. I see this women who vote for Harris thing, and none of them care about being married or having children. They're going to change their. Also for what? You can be the first female VP at the marketing firm at age 35 or at age 40. That's. Guys generally want to do that so they can have a wife and kids that they can provide for.
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Clay Travis
Yes. What you are aspiring to, to be a suit in middle management is what people usually do so they can have kids. And when I look at this, I just think that young women have been sold a bill of goods on what the goal of life is. Because if your goal is just to amass job title and then die by yourself, okay, that seems kind of lonely. It seems not very fulfilling. And I just think that a lot of young women, and I think, frankly, Buck, this is what you're seeing. These women, they get older. They deeply inside, this is me psychoanalyzing. They deeply inside, reject some of the choices that they made to give up a family to be, to your point of VP in a bland accounting firm or something. No offense to everybody out there working in accounting, but I don't think people are doing cartwheels into the accounting office every day because they feel like they're changing, changing the world in such a positive way. And they make politics their life's focus because they have to pour their energy and their soul and their, them and vigor and vitality into something and it's not motherhood. And instead it's Donald Trump is Hitler. I thought about this Gen Z thing when I saw Trump goes to a steakhouse and there's just a bunch of chicks that show up and scream a chant that he's Hitler to him. And you can watch Trump walk over and kind of look at him like, you chicks are crazy. Like, you can kind of see it as, I guarantee you in his head he's like, what are these girls doing? Like, how is your life's ambition to show up when somebody's eating at a steakhouse and call him Hitler? I think you've given up the plot on life and I think you're.
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Buck Sexton
There's a lot of, a lot of projection, the psychologists would call it, of their frustration that they externalize in order to avoid dealing with the realities of the choices that they have made. So Trump is Hitler gives them something to feel bigger than themselves and like they, they're a part of something because a lot of them, the choices that they have made, don't let them feel.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
That way day in and day out.
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Buck Sexton
You know, I mean, I, I tell my friends this and my family this clay at the most basic level, not getting into the spiritual and you know, being a Catholic who's trying to now become actually more of a, of a real Catholic and going back to the church, but just on a, on a basic day to day level. I just think that take care of your people is, is my basic life philosophy. Obviously your family first and then the people around you. And that can keep you really busy. If you're actually doing that, if you're taking care of your people, you really don't have time like those sad people we saw in D.C. at the inauguration to be out in the freezing cold for six hours shouting about how Trump is Hitler with nobody listening, you know, but if you don't have that and you're not taking care of you, and I don't just mean having kids and some people can't have kids and we're sensitive to that, of course. But the people around you making decisions to be meaningful in their lives and to have that, that consideration and that discipline in your day to day, that's hard. Showing up with your purple hair and your screaming and your, you know, your Trump is, is, is the Antichrist, although they probably wouldn't put it that way. He's Hitler. That's easy. That's just, that's just narcissism.
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Clay Travis
Here's a question for you as we go to break and I'd be curious to hear from people again. This is an NBC News poll. 18 to 29 year old voters, what they care about, male and female. How many women are lying? Because when I saw these numbers, I'm like, how many women feel bad to say, hey, what matters to me is having, getting married and having kids because they feel like they're turning their back on feminism if they say that. And so they're just lying because they think other people want to hear. It's crazy to me that 51% of people would say my career is my top priority.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
I don't know, man.
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Buck Sexton
I had, before I met my wife and the love of my life, I had, I had women bail on dates that I asked them out on because they found out that I was a Trumper. So they said, look, you may be.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Incredibly charming and have amazing hair, but.
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Buck Sexton
You voted for Trump and I have to back out of this now. They didn't say that first part, but that's what they were thinking. So I'm just saying some of these ladies are crazy.
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Clay Travis
I think some of them are crazy. I think women are more susceptible to worrying about what others think in general than men are. And so I wonder whether they're being honest in their responses.
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Buck Sexton
Let's get, let's get some Gen Z to weigh in on this one. Gen Z, Clay and Buckland out there, or parents of. How about that? We'll, we'll take your thoughts on this. But look, you know what I'm doing actually right after the show, true story. I'm going to be pulling out some steaks from good ranchers. I'm going to be thawing them out. Actually, I use a sous vide, so that means I can just pick them.
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Buck Sexton
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- [19:13]
Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Buck, I do write a ton about this because I've been thinking about it a lot and ultimately the disconnect between men and women is leading to no babies, right? The overall population in Western civilization is collapsing. Women and men are not having babies. You got to have 2.1 male or female in union ideally in order to replace yourself, right? That's not happening. And when we are not having babies, I think a lot of people sit back and say, okay, what is causing this? And tons of you are weighing In. I write about it a lot in Balls. My very under. Under. Trying to think under the radar title about gender roles and how they impacted the election and how Trump went on and won. You can find it, you can preorder it, but we're going to take a bunch of your reactions because we are flooded with people out there who are saying yes. And I know every, every generation thinks, hey, things are different for us. Things are more challenging. The data actually reflects that people are not getting together and they're not having babies on a level that we've never seen in the history of America before. So I think this is a thing and we will talk about it when we come back. In the meantime, if you do have babies and young kids, you might be like me and you don't want to give them a cell phone until they get a little bit older. 14 was our age when we gave our kids cell phones. And if you have a younger kid, we've got a 10 year old, we've got him with a Rapid radio, we can give it to him. He can still go around in the neighborhood, hang out with his friends. We can talk to him if we need to. No smartphone opportunities, no social media, no getting on that, which a lot of kids are doing when they get cell phones. Also, we just talked about the one year anniversary of Hurricane Helene. Being able to communicate and finding the networks to do so matters. Five day charge. Even if everything is down, this is what Rapid Radios does. You can go to rapidradios.com save up to 60% off. Free UPS shipping from Michigan. Use code radio for an extra 5% off. That's rapidradios.com code radio. Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
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Buck Sexton
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Every line lit. And we're gonna just rack and stack calls here because this is a passionate topic about life choices of young Americans right now. What's important to them. If you're a guy, you voted for Trump, yeah, you want a career, but family, super important kids, super important women who voted for Kamala Harris according to these numbers. And Clay said maybe they're just saying what they should, which is, there's probably some of that, but the numbers are, I mean, they care more about where they're getting their nails done than whether they're ever going to be married or have kids based on this data. It is, it is outrageous stuff. Uh, and they care a lot about their, about their career. Um, all right, we have Stacy first up here. You are a mother of 12 in Minnesota. Did I get that. Right? You are a mom of a dozen.
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Stacy (Caller, mother of 12)
Yes. Yep.
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Buck Sexton
Wow.
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Clay Travis
That is incredible. So what age did you have your first baby?
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Stacy (Caller, mother of 12)
Um, I would have been 24 when I had my first son.
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Clay Travis
And so you have continued and had baby. That. That's incredible. Okay, so how many of those are daughters?
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Stacy (Caller, mother of 12)
We have seven girls and five boys.
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Clay Travis
Okay. So I'm fascinated. What are you telling all of these kids, and what do you see from them as it pertains to gender identity, gender roles, all these different things that you are seeing? You're an expert if you got seven of one and five of the other.
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Stacy (Caller, mother of 12)
Well, yeah. So, you know, we just point them to the Lord for first and foremost, he's the one who. He's the one who gave them to us, and we're just. They're just on loan. And so we need to raise them to go out into the world and to be able to know the truth, which is only found in his word, and also to, you know, to be able to decipher, to be able to think critically, because obviously nowadays that's kind of become a lost art.
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Buck Sexton
Can I ask. Can I ask you. I'm curious about this. I want to ask about the pressure. If your girls feel pressure to delay family formation in order to do more career stuff, maybe you can tackle that one first. But I also just have to throw in there. Do you guys travel in, like, a. Like a motorcade? Like, how do you do that? Do you have a few suburbans? You know, like, when the president moves? I'm just curious.
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Stacy (Caller, mother of 12)
Yeah, that's a good question. We have an express van. So, yeah, it's like a minibus, basically, is kind of, you know, what you would call it. I would say that's fun.
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Buck Sexton
That's fun that you've all your kids on the bus together. Like, that's a good time.
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Stacy (Caller, mother of 12)
Right. And obviously, we have two that just got married this past summer, so, you know, they're starting to leave the nest, and they're definitely looking forward to having their own children. So. Yes.
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Buck Sexton
But do your girls feel like there's a lot of pressure on them socially to delay? You know, do you ever pick that up from them, that they feel like, oh, you know, first I have to make VP at the. @ the accounting firm before I could.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Even think about getting married?
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Buck Sexton
Or not so much?
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Stacy (Caller, mother of 12)
No, not so much. No. They embrace the role as. As a woman, you know, and that doesn't. That doesn't have to be competing with men. And I think that's where our culture has gone Wrong. We feel like we have to compete with men, which we all have our different talents and abilities and gifts and why, why don't we embrace, you know, being a woman? Because, I mean, I don't sure don't want to be a man. Like, I wouldn't want his responsibilities in certain areas and he can't have children. Right. We, we know biologically that a man can't have a child. So, like, there's a reason God gave us different roles. And I mean, I'm not saying there's different situations for different people, but I think the more we fight against the way we are created, that's why we're in the trouble. We're in this world.
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Buck Sexton
Stacy, thank you so much. And that's incredible. And Elon would be, would be proud of you for helping to repopulate the world. You're doing more than your part. So God bless and thank you so much for calling in 12 kids.
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Clay Travis
Clay. Yeah, that's an incredible accomplishment. Darcy in Houston, she said she's got a couple of Gen Z girls. Darcy, what do you see?
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Darcy (Caller from Houston)
I have two Gen Z girls. I have a senior in high school and a senior in college. And we have raised both of our girls to understand that you don't have life balance in the day to day. You have life balance, balance in the cycle of life. So, you know, I was advanced maternal age buck on both of our girls. And so I like, I had a bit of a career, then I stepped away. I took time to be with our kids. I homeschooled them. The oldest graduated from home school. She's now Texas A and M University, College of Civil Engineering. And now I haven't gone back to work full time, but I work on our investments in our real estate portfolio. We have three passive investments. We have numerous single family homes and we're looking at an apartment complex. So you have to understand that the balance of life is day to day. I mean, I've been a university professor overseas. We've lived in four different countries. Life has been an adventure and both of our girls look forward to achieving a balance that fits who they are and who that eventual partner husband in their life is.
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Clay Travis
Do you think that they're more challenged in their generation than you were in yours with balancing that?
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Darcy (Caller from Houston)
Oh, absolutely. And the reason that I say that is because I am Clay. I'm older than you. You're a young buck in my world. I was born in 69 and dating. I think the huge challenge right now is dating. My oldest had a boyfriend and my youngest Everything is groups. And I'm sure you see that with your boys. Everything is a group date. Very seldom do you have that one on one. And even if it's a one on one boyfriend, girlfriend, there's still a group. Everything is group. And so that opportunity to get to know someone individually is being lost in that generation. And that's something that's really hard for parents to overcome.
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Clay Travis
Thank you for the call, Buck. I don't know if I've told you this. One of my kids, I won't say which one, was talking to a girl and I said, well, you should just go get pizza with her. And I think this is emblematic of their generation in general. He was like, just the two of us. And I was like, yeah, yeah, I divide. It was like, they like to call me an unknown. It was like I had given the most unk advice of all time, was like, well, you know, instead of just talking on the phone and not actually seeing each other in person, you should just go have pizza together. And I just remember just the two of us. To her point, it is all group gatherings and. Or not gathering at all because they're on their cell phones. And here's the other thing, and I know this has become huge all over the country. Everyone I knew when you turned 16 years old, this may be a little bit different for you in New York City because you guys got out and about without cars. Everybody I knew, it wasn't just when you turned 16. It was your oldest best friend who could suddenly take you in a car and you could go to the movies, or you could go to the mall, or you could go to a fast food restaurant, or you could go to a sporting event together to go watch. It was a level of liberation that we all desperately craved and counted down the days until it could happen. We all knew when somebody was going to take their driver's test. We all knew when somebody was getting their permit. Nobody cares. Kids today are like, ah, I could get a license or I could not. Now, partly, I think it's a reality of Uber and the fact that we're in different communications. And so all of that factors in, I think, in a significant way. But that in and of itself, I think is. Is a sign of how the culture has changed in a significant way. And let's take a commercial break here. We'll come back in a moment and continue to take some of your calls. In the meantime, I want to tell you, Prize Picks is an absolutely phenomenal place to go if you enjoy NFL football, if you Enjoy college football whatever you are into. Prizepix.com code clay $5. You get $50. We're going to give you an NFL pick tomorrow. College football is going on. I got Georgia and Tennessee. I can't wait to go for that game. Encourage all of you to get hooked up now. Go to prizepix.com code clay $50 when you play. $5. We'll come back with all of you. We'll take your calls. And again, we're going to give you a pick on Thursday. It's prizepix.com code clay that is prizepix.com code Clay get hooked up today. Have some Fun with the NFL. California, Texas, Florida, wherever you may be. PricePicks.com Code Clay Keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the team. 47 podcast Clay and Buck Highlight Trump replays from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Clay Travis
Okay, we got some awful news during the break and we're following it in real time. And obviously the show is ending right now, so it's unlikely that we are going to know officially what has happened. But Charlie Kirk, who is a friend of ours, he's been on the show runs Turning Point usa. He was doing a rally at Utah Valley and I'm trying to get all these facts right. Obviously this happening right now. Utah Valley University near Provo. Video shows that there were shots fired there and he, you know, you probably have seen the incredible work that Charlie has done. He goes to all these different college campuses and does these question and answer sessions which have motivated so many young people. And he was doing one at Utah Valley just in the last couple of minutes. There's videos, shots being fired. Buck, we're trying to follow it in real time. So we are updating all of you.
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Buck Sexton
We don't have any confirmation beyond the video that there were shots and it.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Looks like he was hit. We don't know how bad this is. Absolutely. I honestly, I feel like I'm going to throw up. It's. I'm praying for Charlie right now.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, look, the videos are up. There's a huge crowd on Utah Valley's campus and we're trying to follow this in, in real time. He is sitting, as he has done on these mega viral TikTok events for a long time. I mean, there's probably a thousand people or more at this event on the center of campus. And you can hear what sounds like gunshots going off. And then again, their videos being posted now here, look, I think if you can pray, this would be a good time.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Yeah, he's, you know, he's. Charlie hit in the video. He's hit. Look, Trump got hit in the neck and Trump was okay. I don't know. I don't know what. We don't. None of us know whether Charlie's. We don't know. I can't say.
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Clay Travis
He is a built, you know, he.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Built a massive organization with Turning Point. He helped Trump win this last election. He's very outspoken. I know Charlie personally. I actually, I mean, I, he's got, he's got a wife and two kids.
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Clay Travis
That's what I was gonna say. Young kids. He's an awesome guy. Again, I mean, you can all understand.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
I mean, this is, I just, look, I pray, I pray for the country right now. This is, this is going to take us into a very dark place if, if, if this go. I mean, I just, I'm hoping we're gonna get, we're gonna get reporting here any minute that Charlie is going to be okay. He's, you know, in the hot. You know, he's probably, you know, taken to the hospital. I'm hoping we're get reporting and Charlie's okay. That's all. I mean, I don't know what to say beyond that. I mean, he got shot and then the neck, you know, we know Trump got.
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Buck Sexton
Trump got hit in the ear.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
I said the neck before. Trump got hit in the ear. Charlie got hit in the neck. If it was a superficial wound, there's a good chance, but there's obviously carotid artery and, you know, this is. I don't know what caliber he was. I can't believe we're sitting here and this is happening as we're on the show right now. And Clay, it's. Yeah, FOX is reporting CNN is reporting.
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Clay Travis
We've seen the videos. Look, this is, I, I honestly it's tough when you're dealing with these live situations. I can't help but think as he is a young dad and for someone of his age he has had as profoundly positive of an impact as someone could have in my opinion in the.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Country, he was enormously powerful in the best ways with young Americans. And look, the demons didn't like it. The, the hard left, the, the, the, the terror, you know, the domestic terrorists of Antifa and all these. They, he was a target as we obviously now are seeing the results of it. He would travel with security, he would have pretty substantial security with him. But if somebody is willing to spend the rest of their life in prison.
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Buck Sexton
And you go to a live public event, it's very hard to have, look at the president.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
United States got shot last summer as we all recall. So it's very hard to have perfect security. But in a situation like this, Clay, with Charlie, who again you and I know I spoke at one of his events. I mean Charlie is, you know, he sat in my living room when I lived in D.C. and we were sketching out ways for the MAGA movement to win back the youth. And I was like this, this kid is gonna do, you know, this is now seven or eight years ago. I was like this kid's gonna do amazing stuff. And I just, I just can't believe. I mean look, we are still.
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Buck Sexton
I'm just sitting here holding on. I'm sorry.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
I've never had to react to, I've.
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Buck Sexton
Had to react to terrorist incidents before.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Live in real time. I've never reacted to a friend and somebody who is in very much our business and in our world being shot. You know, I look Trump that when Trump was hit, Clay, I remember, I remember I called you, I called my.
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Buck Sexton
Family and I called you right away.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
But we knew within a few minutes he was okay. He put that fist up in the.
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Buck Sexton
Air so that you know, the trauma.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
There was, was, thank God was short lived. Right. We knew Trump was okay. Quickly. I don't know what Charlie's status is and I don't know when we're going to know. I'm hoping right now that we'll see a report come up any second that he's in the hospital and he's stable. That's, that's just, I mean I am praying for that. I'm praying for that because Charlie's a dad and he's a husband and he's a, and he's a. Honestly just A just a great American, and it's doing incredible things. I also think this will take the country into a really horrible place if the worst happens here. So I am, I'm actually, I'm worried.
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Buck Sexton
For all of us in a way.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
And I'm just sitting here praying for Charlie and his family. I mean, do we have. Guys, do we have any updates on anything?
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Clay Travis
Let me, let me just continue. Buck with this guy is tell me.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
He'S in the hospital and he's okay.
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Clay Travis
Fox News said he's been taken to a hospital on their official Fox News account. I don't think we're going to have any certainty before we leave today, which is why I would say for those of you out there, pray. There are lots of videos on social media. You and I are both dads. He has young kids. This is a super young guy.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Little kids. I know little kids.
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Clay Travis
Really little kids. He's just a fantastic guy who has put his heart and soul into the country. And the reason he's on a college campus, the reason he's on a college campus is to try to talk to young people and make them aware of what an exceptional, incredible place America is and how fortunate we are all to be here and to have a forum for free speech where you can show up and agree or disagree with them and have public debates. And I, I just, I.
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Unidentified Male Co-host or Guest
Look, pray, pray, pray for Charlie right now. We don't. We don't know anything other than he's been hit and he may be able to pull through and he'll be okay. Pray to God right now, all of you, we'll talk to you tomorrow. We'll have updates for you. But that's. That's where we are for today. We're all just thinking about Charlie Kirk. I'm going to just be Clay. We're going to be burning up the phone trying to find out as soon as we can.
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Clay Travis
Prayers love all you guys. Hug the people you love. Kiss them too. We'll see you tomorrow.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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