Hour 3 - Holiday Spending and Economic Optimism

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 3 - Holiday Spending and Economic Optimism
Date: December 22, 2025
Host: Brett Witterbol (in for Clay Travis & Buck Sexton)
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode, hosted by Brett Witterbol sitting in for Clay and Buck, centers on Americans’ holiday spending habits, reflections on economic optimism, and broader discussions about American identity, free speech, and the U.S. political climate. Brett takes calls from listeners around the country, explores the contrast between American values and foreign commentary, and dives into the implications of economic and immigration policy, all while maintaining a festive and patriotic tone.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Holiday Spending and American Optimism

Segment Start: [02:59]

• Brett opens with a central question for listeners:
  “Are you spending more on Christmas, or less on Christmas? Are you feeling like you’re more in the spirit of the season than maybe you were in the last couple of years?” [03:10]
• Emphasizes gratitude for being American, regardless of economic ups and downs:
  “We are so lucky to be Americans. We are so blessed to be Americans... I would not want to be in any other place with any other group of people than right here in the good old US Of A.” [03:43]

Notable Calls:

• Luke from Ohio: Reports positive economic conditions and holiday spirit (“Me and my wife will make around $115k this year... We’re gonna have a very good Christmas season.”) and credits low gas prices and falling interest rates. [12:12–12:43]
• Linda from Alabama: Attributes her family’s successful year to the president and the stock market, allowing for increased charitable giving (“Thanks to our president and the stock market this year, my husband and I have had a very good year... we have given more to charities and our children will be having a better Christmas.”) [19:07–19:24]

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2. America Versus the World: Freedom of Speech & Multiculturalism

Segment Start: [04:00]

• Brett plays and reacts to a controversial statement from Australian politician Chris Minns regarding freedom of speech in the wake of the Bondi Beach attack. Minns distinguishes Australian and American approaches, favoring limitations to maintain multicultural harmony.
• Brett reacts strongly, defending U.S. free speech and critiquing what he sees as an international trend toward “command and control:”
  “I believe everybody should have a chance to be the person that they should be. But it cannot be a command and control sort of a deal here. That is just poppycock. It is nuts.” [07:05]
• He critiques foreign politicians’ tendency to denounce American freedoms:
  “Why do they look to the United States and say terrible things about the United States of America? Why is that? Anybody? Can you explain that to me? ...Weird. Really, really weird. And a terrible sort of take.” [08:45]

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3. Everyday Americans Sound Off: Diverse Economic Stories

Segment Start: [12:08]

• Kenny from Boston: Shares concern for struggling Americans and highlights the importance of not being embarrassed about accepting help, especially for veterans. He pivots to concerns over immigration, claiming it impacts Congressional representation and the partisan makeup (“...these congressional districts get bigger and bigger or they just create new congressional districts and they create electoral votes for the left wing candidates through immigration, legal and illegal...”) [13:06–14:28]

• Father Michael from Ohio: Offers a defense of President Trump, especially regarding religious freedom in schools, relating a personal anecdote from a campaign rally (“He told me right to my face, he said, Father Michael, I will get prayer back in school... within three months of him being president that very first term, that federal law was changed.”) [20:34–21:38]

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4. Economic & Immigration Policy Commentary

Segment Start: [23:00]

• Immigration Policy Discussion:
  • Analysis of recent changes, including halted diversity visas and a shrinking foreign-born workforce.
  • Expert argues that as foreign-born (especially illegal) workers leave, there is a net employment gain for native-born Americans, especially Hispanic Americans (“...native born workers are up more than 2 million...the majority of the native born jobs that have been created over the last year are Hispanic Americans.”) [23:35–24:16]
  • Construction wages rising ($3,300/year) due to labor scarcity, seen as a positive for American workers. [24:36–24:48]
• Business community still expresses labor shortage concerns, but the expert insists these are natural market adjustments and that legal residents now have first pick at jobs.
• Assurance that legal clarity will improve in the new year. [25:33]

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5. Future Economic Leadership & The Fed

Segment Start: [25:51]

• Brett discusses former economic advisor Kevin Hassett’s communication strategy, lauding his calm, “heartland-first” approach and potential as a future Fed chair.
• Contrasts Hassett’s focus on ordinary people and small businesses with what Brett sees as the out-of-touch priorities of current and prospective Democratic leaders.
• Critiques Jerome Powell’s incrementalism and argues Trump and likely VP JD Vance are committed to supporting the middle class, especially around issues of credit and business lending.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Brett Witterbol:
  • “We are so lucky to be Americans. We are so blessed to be Americans. Imagine all the times that you could have possibly been alive, and you’re alive now...” [03:43]
  • “If you are somebody who is moral, if you are somebody who can abide by morality. And I’m not saying you impose morality on individuals. They have a choice. They get to do what they want to do.” [07:37]
• Linda (caller):
  • “Many people might not know that Birmingham, Alabama, is one of the most giving cities in the country. And I’m very proud to live here and proud of that.” [19:56]
• Father Michael (caller):
  • “I had the blessing to give the invocation at [Trump’s] rally... he told me right to my face... I will get prayer back in school... within three months... that federal law was changed.” [20:34–21:38]

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Key Timestamps

• Holiday spending discussion opens: [02:59]
• Brett's take on Chris Minns & free speech: [04:00–09:00]
• Caller Luke (Ohio): [12:08]
• Caller Kenny (Boston): [13:00]
• Caller Linda (Alabama): [19:04]
• Caller Father Michael (Ohio): [20:30]
• Immigration policy segment: [23:00–25:51]
• Kevin Hassett/Fed speculation: [25:51–33:00]

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Tone & Style

Brett maintains an upbeat, patriotic, and conversational tone throughout, favoring stories from everyday Americans and highlighting the potential and promise of American society when grounded in personal responsibility and constitutional freedoms. He is critical of foreign critiques and policies perceived as restrictive, and champions both optimism and realism about economic and political conditions ahead.

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Summary

This episode melds holiday cheer with pointed social and economic commentary. Brett Witterbol celebrates American resilience and gratitude, surfaces real listener perspectives on prosperity and struggle, calls out perceived anti-American rhetoric abroad, and confidently predicts better times ahead with a focus on national unity, constitutional freedoms, and economic opportunity. Through calls and commentary, he provides a snapshot of diverse American attitudes at the close of the year.

Transcript

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And welcome back. I'm Brett Witterble, in for Clay and buck. Our number three underway. 800-282-2882. It is so great to be spending the time this afternoon with each and every one of you. It's a real pleasure. And what do you say we get going? We're gonna break down a whole bunch of big stories, spending. And I have a question for you this hour. And the question that I have for you is are you spending more on Christmas or less on Christmas? I don't mean that to mean I can't afford this stuff. I mean, are you feeling like you're more in the spirit of the season than maybe you were in the last couple of years? So certainly you can take it in any direction you want, and that's certainly something that is, that is hugely important. So, yeah, that's, that's the question that I've got for you, are you spend a little bit more, you spend less. Just about the same. You can take it any place you want to go. I want to give you a perfect example for why we should, every day when we wake up, put our knees on the floor and kiss, kiss the. Kiss the, the floor that you're doing that because we are so lucky to be Americans. We are so blessed to be Americans. Imagine all the times that you could have possibly been alive, and you're alive now. I'm telling you right now, folks, I would not want to be in any other place with any other group of people than right here in the good old US Of A. And so let me go to cut number two. This is a guy named Chris Minns. He was talking about the massacre yesterday that took place during the attack on the Bondi Beach. And he is, I just want to warn you because your blood pressure may go up a little bit. He doesn't want to be like the United States of America. He says that this is the wrong kind of approach that we're dealing with when it comes to the Bondi beach massacre and that we have really no standing to tell them what's up over there in New South Wales. So I'm going to let you hear this, but, man, this is a guy who just cannot resist the temptation to throw sand in our faces. Cut number two. Let her rip. What do they want people to have the right to say? What kind of racist abuse do they want to see or be able to lawfully see on the streets of Sydney? I recognise, and I've fully said from the beginning that we don't have the same freedom of speech laws that they have in the United States. And the reason for that is that we want to hold together multicultural community and have people live in peace, free from the kind of vilification and hatred that we do see around the world. Is he kidding? Is he? Hold on a minute. Multiculturalism and all this sort of stuff. Well, then explain to me how Chris Minns from Australia is sitting back here and saying something like, well, we want, we don't want people to have the right to say what they want and we're going to take away their guns for good measure and all of that sort of stuff. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This guy is not ready for prime time. This guy went out of his way to insult the American people. I thought we were great allies of, of Australia. I thought the, the K S deal was coming to go. It was going to be perfect. It was going to be wonderful. But, but why is it that they have to always look to the United States, which had nothing to do with the massacre at Bondi Beach. Why do they look to the United States and say terrible things about the United States of America? Why is that? Anybody? Can you explain that to me? We're allegedly air quotes, allies. But this guy, this, this guy has to come over here and say, or he has to say about us. We, we can't have that kind of language. We, we can't have you people saying these things with, with this thing that they call free speech. These, these folks are the people. If you remember Jacinda Ardern and the other folks who were during a number of things, including Covid and then beyond Covid. These folks, their default position is always, always, always more tyranny, more multiculturalism. More, more, more. Look, if you come to the United States, you see a lot of people who live in this country who are multicultural. I don't want to judge people by the color of their skin. I don't want to judge people by the, the economics that they go by or things like that. I believe everybody should have a chance to be the person that they should be. But it cannot be a command and control sort of a deal here. That is just poppy cock. It is nuts. Oh, oh, look, at how great we are. Well, what I saw at Bondi beach was hundreds of people terrorized by two people holding them hostage. Being. Being shooters. This. This is disgraceful. This is awful. And you want to know what their. Their. Their dividing line is? Wait till you hear this. Their dividing line. The thing that we must not ever do. I hope you're sitting down when I tell you this. They've decided that you're not allowed to have an ISIS flag anymore. Anymore. Were you guys okay with ISIS flags? Once upon a time. This is lunacy. This is bending over backwards so far that you fall down the steps. You have to understand, there are people in this country, and there are people in Australia and there are people in Europe. There are people in South America. There are people in a lot of different places who do not respect the right to life, who do not respect the right to life, who do. And right to religion. The United States of America. The terrible place that this guy's talking about. Our number one. Our number one right is to worship, to pray, to choose our faith, all of that. And it is guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence and in the. In the. The amendments of the Constitution. These are all of the things that are stitched together. But it is only effective if you are a moral people. If you are somebody who is moral, if you are somebody who can abide by morality. And I'm not saying you impose morality on individuals. They have a choice. They get to do what they want to do. But then this guy comes in and starts swinging and winging and at the United States of. It's absolutely unbelievable. I just. I was just so offended by what. What he had to say about the United States of America. We have nothing to do with their problems there. And by the way, we have problems as well. Nobody sitting here in the United States after something bad happens saying it's Australia's fault. We don't want to be like Australia. Weird. Really, really weird. And a terrible sort of take. It is. It is. It is more than annoying. All right, so I asked a couple of moments ago, are you spending more money? Are you spending more for Christmas? Are you. Are you feeling festive in the spirit and all of that sort of stuff? So let me reach out to Luke in Ohio. Want to get his thoughts on this. What are your thoughts on the. On the holidays, my friend?

[Caller]

I have three boys. 1912.

[Brett Witterbol]

Three.

[Caller]

We're in the Christmas spirit. Me and my wife will make around 115this year. We live between Cincinnati and Columbus. We're doing well. We have a mortgage but our vehicles are paid for. We're thankful. We're gonna have a very good Christmas season. I don't know a ton about the economy, but we do okay. And I think that the Trump gas is about 230 where I'm at, which is great.

[Brett Witterbol]

That's great.

[Caller]

Interest rates are coming down. I don't know about foreign policy, but what he does is helping my bottom line every month and I hope it continues in that direction.

[Brett Witterbol]

That's a great call, Luke. Thank you so much for calling and bless you and your family, man. Thanks so much. Enjoy. Enjoy Christmas. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's a, that's a great thing. All right, let me take Kenny in Boston real quick. Kenny, welcome to the show, man.

[Caller]

Your show is awesome. I love your rapport with the callers.

[Brett Witterbol]

Thank you.

[Caller]

First, I just want to say something. The other gentleman's having a good year. I'm glad for him. But there's a lot of people out down on their luck. And don't be embarrassed. There's plenty of places that have Christmas dinner. You go there, don't be embarrassed and don't let me find out you're a combat veteran. You're afraid to have that free dinner. You walk in there first with your chest out, my man, and just enjoy. But the thing is, I just like to say this country is being totally invaded by. The whole world is coming here. It's like a big piece of rock candy. All different type of scams are being run. People have to realize when more people come in the country, these congressional districts get bigger and bigger or they just create new congressional districts and they create electoral votes for the left wing candidates. Through immigration, legal and illegal, the Democratic Party has been rebuilt into a total left wing party. I don't see any hope for that party anymore because they basically represent communist socialists. You call what it is all anti Americanism. And I really personally believe that a lot of things have to be done. And I just want to let you know that there are some people pushing for Pat Buchanan to get the Presidential Medal of Freedom. But Pat already won an award. It's called he was right on Everything. Merry Christmas and everybody have a Charlie Brown Christmas.

[Brett Witterbol]

All right. All right. Thank you for your opining in that regard. We're going to get a break. I've got plenty more people who want to opine on these sorts of things. And I think it's a hugely important thing for us to remember that the reason why we have this ability to worship that we have the ability to be the, the nation that we want to be is because of the sacrifices that have been made, especially by the folks in the military. I'm Brett Witterbol. It's a pleasure to be with you. I'm in for Clay and Buck 800-282-2882 back after this. Patriots Radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app.

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Buck Sexton here, the entire Clay and Buck show wish you and your family a warm Christmas season and a joyful new year. And welcome back. I'm Brent Witterbolt. Great to be with you in For Clay and Buck 800-282-288. To taking your phone calls, your thoughts, all of the stuff that's out there. And as we go through the into the next segment, I want you guys to hear something that I thought was really good by Kevin Hassett. Sometimes people will say how come you don't fight back with these different reporters and stuff like that. Well, he did a master job in this regard. And I'm, and I want to save that for the next coming segment. But let me go out and talk to Linda in Alabama. Linda, welcome to the what's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Well, first I wanted to say Merry Christmas.

[Brett Witterbol]

Merry Christmas.

[Caller]

Second, I wanted to say that thanks to our president and the stock market this year, my husband and I have had a very good year. And as a result, we have given more to charities and our children will be having a better Christmas. And we're very optimistic for the future.

[Brett Witterbol]

That is great. That is great. That is phenomenal. Yeah. Well, well, listen, you also decided you were going to tithe and help people out and stuff. Look, that is, that's what we, we need to really put first and foremost in our mind how can we do the best possible good that we can do. And I'm so happy for your success and your ability to kind of pay it forward and help other people. And it's a really important thing to do. And I really appreciate you calling the show today.

[Caller]

Well, thank you. And I just want to say many people might not know that Birmingham, Alabama, is one of the most giving cities in the country. And I'm very proud to live here and proud of that. So thank you for taking my call.

[Brett Witterbol]

Oh, it's my pleasure. Absolutely. That was. That was fantastic. Because when you kind of pay stuff forward to do things like that, it's a very important thing. A very, very important thing. Can I talk to Father Michael from Ohio? Welcome to the show, sir. Hello, sir.

[Caller]

Yes, hello, Brent. How are you today?

[Brett Witterbol]

I'm well. Thanks for checking in.

[Caller]

I have tried to shout from the rooftops from 2015 about President Trump because a lot of good things he does just is not reported. I had the blessing to give the invocation at his rally, the first Ohio rally back in 2015 here in Columb. A great man to meet. And he told me right to my face, he said, father Michael, I will get prayer back in school. Now, up until that time, almost everyone had a right in public school to take a time of silence or to pray, but it had gotten down to where just the Muslims were allowed. And, you know, within three months of him being president that very first term, that federal law was changed. I never heard a thing about it, but it was changed. I got it from my kids who went. Who went to public school. And I think it was great that the president, from the very beginning of his first term, prayer and God has been number one with him, regardless of what anyone tries to misinterpret for our president. And that's the best I can say. Have a merry Christmas. Okay? God bless you and all the listeners.

[Brett Witterbol]

And you as well. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. Father Michael checking in with us that the thing is, we are able to do so many great things if we just put the nose to the grindstone and if we get together, we say, listen, we want to change this and we want it to be done in a. In a. In an appropriate way, in a proper way, but it has to also be, most importantly, a constitutional way. And the Constitution enshrines for us these rights and liberties. We don't have to ask permission to pray. We just have to do what we want to do. Another great segment coming up, straight ahead. Don't go anywhere. I'm Brett Witterville in for Clay and Buck. Very happy to be with each and every one of you. And I'm telling you, this is going to be a wonderful Christmas. We all know what we've seen, but we Also know what we're going to see in the next number of weeks. Watch and learn. I'm Brett Winter.

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The President announced further changes to immigration policy. He halted diversity visas. There are now 39 countries on this travel ban or restricted list. This is in addition to all the deportations and revocations of asylum. The business community has made clear that the constant changes make it hard for them to plan, particularly in the small business category. They're concerned about a labor shortage. And we've seen the US workforce lose more than a 1 million foreign born workers in the past year. Are you hearing those concerns from the business community?

[Immigration Policy Expert]

Actually it's the opposite. So in the sense that native born workers are up more than 2 million. And so what we've seen is that as foreign born workers, and a lot of them don't forget, were illegal immigrants that have been deported, that when foreign born workers depart, then it creates jobs for people who are native born. The interesting thing too, which I'd like to remind everybody, is that native born Americans aren't necessarily racially distinct at all. And so the majority of the native born jobs that have been created over the last year are Hispanic Americans. It's, you know, just basically taking folks that are legally in the country and getting the jobs to them is what we see in the data.

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Well, the Associated General Contractors of America didn't say they're replacing those workers easily. They're saying they're having a hard time doing that and issued a statement saying it's a significant challenge and urging the administration to look at ways to expand the construction workforce and allow more people to lawfully enter the country.

[Immigration Policy Expert]

Right. Well one of the things we're seeing this is exactly how markets work. Right. So construction workers, their salaries this year have gone up by $3,300 on average according to the latest report.

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Because the scarcity.

[Immigration Policy Expert]

Well, but when the price goes up, then people say, oh, I should, I should go and I used to be a construction worker, but I'm doing something else, I should go back to construction work because the salaries are so high. And so we're seeing a lot of that go on. And so, so we're very bullish on construction and really happy to see that wages are going way back up. And so instead of having, you know, basically illegal people come in and take jobs away from native born Americans at low wages, we're seeing people reenter the labor force at high wages.

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But, but to be clear from the business community, part of the question is what is legal? Because they're changing the definition and pulling back asylum from some groups. So there is confusion at the constant change in policy where there'll be clarity in the new year.

[Immigration Policy Expert]

Oh, there will definitely be clarity in the new year. And I think there's clarity now that what we've done is that we've made it so that people are legally residents of the country and legally allowed to work, that they're, you know, basically top of the list when you're looking for somebody to hire this.

[Brett Witterbol]

Okay, I'm back here, connected then. Thank you very much. I had a catastrophic failure here for a moment. So Kevin Hassett talking into this conversation, having this conversation, doing the sort of thing that is. That he's doing is important because what's happening with Kevin Hassett in this regard is the. It's the trap that always happens. It's the trap that always occurs when you go in and you go try to do the things that you need to do to make the case for stronger economies. Now, if you go back to the Biden administration, the biggest problem that they had with that administration was the fact that they spent $7 trillion for nothing, and we got nothing for that. That's like injecting more and more heroin over the course of time than. Than it should. If you, if you decide you're going to put poison into the system, you're going to get a poisonous response. And so when that happens, this is where people like Margaret Brennan and all these other sort of folks are out there and they're sitting back and they're saying, okay, we're going to try to do a trap. Now, Kevin Hassett is an important person. He is potentially going to be, maybe unless it's Mr. Warsh or it's going to be somebody else who's going to come in and be the next Fed chair. What I like about Kevin Hassett is the fact that we have a person who might be able to advocate, not just as one of these elites who are on the, you know, who are on the spectrum and all this sort of stuff. What we have is somebody who understands what people care about, how the economy is supposed to work, how the economy is supposed to function, how the economy affects not just hedge funders, not just the people that are out there doing the things that they're doing. What we have in place in this moment is something that is unbelievable. It is a potential for a guy who's going to come in and advocate for what an economy should look like, for economy should function. And in that part of the. The entire part that's massive when is the last time you saw a Federal Reserve person, potentially, if he gets appointed to that position after Jay Powell goes, when's the last time you saw somebody come in and say, let me talk about the people who are suffering, Let me talk about the people who have small businesses and all those sorts of things? This is unprecedented. It's more than what economics should look like. It's about the notion of people's economics themselves. And so when people are out there and they're suffering, and when you see that they need this or that thing to happen, availability for credit, all of that sort of stuff, what did you see from Jerome Powell? Jerome Powell, consistently, it was playing games with, okay, we'll just go for a quarter point or this or that. It was, it was somebody who was too afraid to make the big decisions. Donald Trump is not going to blow somebody out of the position because they are in a place where, okay, we have to get more money into, into this part of the sector. What do you see? As far as the eye can see, what you see is rents are going way up. Other sort of things like that are becoming more expensive, and that can also be handled by, by the Fed. So when you look at Hassett and when you look at him going around talking to people in a calm way, not in any kind of a panicked way, but in a, in a calm way where he's talking to America, he's not talking necessarily to Wall street, though he does do a really good job when he goes on the CNBCs and those sorts of things like that. But when you look at, and you see his decisions that he's making to try to sell, not, not to sell in a, in a negative way, in a crooked way and any of that sort of stuff, what you've got from him is somebody who's able to look at it through the eyes of not just the consumer, but the heartland. It's interesting to me to see the people who want to run for office on, on the Democratic side of the aisle. And you've got, you've got a very successful governor in Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, you've got Gavin Newsom. And then of course, who else have you got? You've got a couple of people that are, that are running around AOC maybe wants to run, whatever that is. But you also have a billionaire in, in Illinois. But he is not a person who's advocating for, for the common man, for the small guy, for those people. He, he is, he is not advocating for the elites, has, it's not doing that. He's doing it for the people that feel it the most, the people who need to take out a loan, the people who need to take out a loan for their college kids, for, for a housing remodel, for all of that sort of stuff. That's what we've, what we've got this thing set up as now. Unfortunately. Unfortunately, you know, at the beginning of, of of time, you had this notion that whatever we try to force down on people, they'll just have to live with it. That's no longer the case because you have in President Trump and you have in J.D. vance, the vice president, you have people who are actively educating and working for the middle class. It's why you did everything you did with the border. It's why you did everything that could have come that way. 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