Hour 3 - How To End Conflicts

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Hour 3: How To End Conflicts

Release Date: March 13, 2025
Host/Authors: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton | Guest: Carol Markowitz
Publisher: Premiere Networks

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1. Russia-Ukraine Conflict and Ceasefire Prospects

[00:00 – 08:20]
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war, addressing recent reports about a potential ceasefire. They discuss movements towards negotiations and the complexities involved in reaching a final agreement.

• Buck Sexton highlights the multifaceted nature of ceasefire negotiations:
  “Phase one is the ceasefire. A lot of the individual subjects have been discussed, though.” [00:50]

• Clay Travis criticizes the Democrat-led media narrative, asserting that previous administrations, notably Biden’s, lacked efforts toward ceasefire, and praises Trump’s proactive stance:
  “When you read the New York Times update on this, they're so negative about the prospects here for any kind of success.” [02:30]

The hosts emphasize the importance of ending the conflict to prevent further loss of life and criticize the continuous financial support to Ukraine, advocating for an American-first approach.

2. Economic Pressure on Russia and Media Bias

[08:20 – 15:31]
The conversation shifts to the economic strategies being employed against Russia, including EU sanctions on oil and gas purchases and banking restrictions. They argue that these measures inflict significant economic pain on Russia, potentially pushing Putin towards negotiation.

• Clay Travis asserts the media’s reluctance to acknowledge Trump's leverage over Russia:
  “Maybe the Democrats got upset about what happened to Zelensky, but now we’re seeing a potential end to the conflict.” [05:15]

The hosts express optimism about the direction of the negotiations while critiquing the media for portraying Trump as ineffective or a puppet of Putin.

3. Trump’s Stance on Canada and Tariff Policies

[15:31 – 30:28]
Clay and Buck explore President Trump’s controversial remarks about Canada potentially becoming the United States' 51st state. They discuss the implications of such statements, viewing them as negotiation tactics or trolling.

• Buck Sexton reflects on Trump's comments about Canada:
  “Canada only works as a state. It doesn't. We don't need anything they have as a state.” [10:48]

• Clay Travis questions the seriousness behind Trump’s statements:
  “Is he just straight trolling them? Because you're very reasonable about all things Trump.” [28:13]

The discussion includes skepticism about Trump's strategy, considering Canada's strong national identity and the improbability of annexation.

4. Transgender Issues and Political Polarization

[15:31 – 27:01]
The hosts address the intense political debates surrounding transgender rights, particularly in sports. They criticize the Democratic approach, labeling it as inconsistent and more about effectuating political agendas than genuine advocacy.

• Clay Travis comments on Democratic inconsistencies:
  “They demand that we obey them. And when we say no, they say, why are we even talking about this?” [16:20]

• Carol Markowitz, guest and host of the Carol Markowitz Show, supports the skepticism towards Democratic trans policies:
  “They don't like Elon, and they don't see the problem with that.” [26:06]

The segment underscores the perceived disconnect between Democratic policies and mainstream American sentiments.

5. Climate Change Skepticism and Left-Wing Activism

[27:01 – 28:03]
Clay and Carol Markowitz express doubts about the sincerity of climate change activism, suggesting that prominent figures like Greta Thunberg and policies pushed by Democrats are more about economic reorientation than genuine environmental concern.

• Carol Markowitz questions the authenticity of climate advocates:
  “If I was concerned about climate change, I'd be living very differently than they're living.” [26:06]

The hosts argue that climate change is used as a tool for political maneuvering rather than addressing real environmental threats.

6. Audience Engagement and Listener Comments

[30:26 – 33:16]
The show incorporates listener feedback, including a comment from a Denver listener on Freedom 93.7, reinforcing their stance that Democrats cater to "dumb constituents" and will continue with shutdowns for political gain.

• Listener Comment:
  “Democrats have the dumbest constituents and they know this. That's why they're going to continue with the shutdown.” [33:09]

The hosts align with the listener’s viewpoint, predicting that Democrats will blame Republicans for governmental shutdowns while criticizing their voter base.

7. Guest Insights: Carol Markowitz on Protests and National Security

[19:10 – 30:28]
Carol Markowitz discusses recent protests at Trump Tower, dismissing the credibility of groups like "Jews for Palestine" and asserting that such protests are not genuinely for peace but aimed at undermining Western civilization.

• Carol Markowitz on the nature of protests:
  “They're really about Western civilization. They're about the United States. These lunatics want to bring it down.” [19:28]

She emphasizes the need for accountability against violent protests and criticizes Democrats for being out of touch with national interests.

8. Historical Context: Fur Trade and National Symbols

[33:09 – 33:16]
In a brief historical aside, Clay recounts the significance of the beaver as Canada’s national animal, linking it to the historical fur trade and its impact on relations between European settlers and Native American tribes.

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Conclusion:
In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton provide a critical analysis of current geopolitical conflicts, focusing on the Russia-Ukraine war and the potential for a ceasefire under Trump’s administration. They scrutinize Democratic media biases, discuss contentious political issues such as transgender rights and climate change skepticism, and challenge Democratic political strategies. Guest Carol Markowitz contributes by highlighting issues surrounding protests and national security, reinforcing the hosts’ advocacy for an American-first approach.

Notable Quotes:

• Buck Sexton (00:50): “Phase one is the ceasefire. A lot of the individual subjects have been discussed, though.”
• Clay Travis (02:30): “When you read the New York Times update on this, they're so negative about the prospects here for any kind of success.”
• Carol Markowitz (19:28): “They're really about Western civilization. They're about the United States. These lunatics want to bring it down.”
• Listener Jason (33:09): “Democrats have the dumbest constituents and they know this. That's why they're going to continue with the shutdown.”

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Disclaimer: This summary captures the key discussions and viewpoints presented in the episode. It reflects the perspectives of Clay Travis, Buck Sexton, and guest Carol Markowitz and is intended for informational purposes only.

Transcript

[Clay Travis]

All right, third hour. Clay and Buck kicks off now. Let's talk about the Russia, Ukraine war and what is going on here because there is some reporting about a ceasefire we need to dive into. The ceasefire hasn't been agreed to yet, but there's movement in that direction. There is movement in the direction of figuring out what exactly is happening here. You know, what I was going to break down, break it down for you, but the commander in chief himself, Donald Trump, just spoke about this moments ago. And here he is on. This is from the, his guys from the Oval, right? Here he is. Cut 20. Yeah. From the Oval Office. Cut 24. An update from Donald Trump himself on Russia, Ukraine moments ago. Play it well.

[Buck Sexton]

We'd like to see a cease fire from Russia. And we have, you know, not been working in the dark. We've been discussing with Ukraine land, pieces of land that would be kept and lost and all of, of the other elements of a final agreement. There's a power plant involved, you know, a very big power plant involved, who's going to get the power plant and who's going to get this and that. And so, you know, it's, it's not an easy process. Phase one is the ceasefire. A lot of the individual subjects have been discussed, though. You know, we've been discussing concepts of land because you don't want to waste time with a cease fire if, if it's not going to mean anything. So we're saying, look, this is what you can get, this is what you can't get. They discussed NATO and being in NATO and everybody knows what the answer to that is. They've known that answer for 40 years, in all fairness. So a lot of the details of a final agreement have actually been discussed. Now we're going to see whether or not Russia is there and if they're not, it'll be a very disappointing moment for the world.

[Clay Travis]

Now it's in Russia's court. As I told you. The way that this is being reported on is a fascinating look into how the Democrat propaganda media functions. And so I want to focus in on that because here's where we are. A war started on Biden's watch that he and the New York Times and others kept saying, Ukraine's going to win. Ukraine held them off. Ukraine's going to win. And that's not happening. And they didn't do anything to get a ceasefire. They didn't do anything to get a negotiation going for three years. And now Donald Trump hasn't even been office two months. It's coming up on Two months. And you have Ukraine in principle agreeing to a ceasefire subject to conditions. Fine. Look, you heard Trump just now say it. There's gonna, it's gonna be a process. It's not easy, but we're working toward it. We're working toward an end to this. And now Russia has come out and said, Putin has come out and said, okay, yeah, let's, let's talk about this cease fire thing. There are conditions as well, but I'm willing to have this discussion, or I think that it's time that we have this talk. And he voiced what the New York Times is calling preliminary Support for the 30 day cease fire proposal. I went through the New York Times explanation of what's in this, and it's just astonishing how much they try to shade the thinking here of anybody who reads this, such that somehow this is Trump just doing Putin a huge favor. This is a big favor for Putin, that this is what Putin wants. He wants the ceasefire. Trump wants the conflict to stop. And Ukraine should want the conflict to stop as well. People are dying in large numbers every month in this thing and we are funding it. I think we're giving them, you know, like a billion dollars a day or something. I mean, we are giving them a whole bunch of money and we don't want to keep doing that either. So this isn't about who do you like more, Ukraine or Russia. This isn't about who's the good guy, who's the bad guy, who's right and who's wrong. It's how do we end this thing and how you end a conflict. Go back to the Versailles Treaty. How you end a conflict is important too, so that you can get stability going forward and you don't have mass death. The avoidance of mass death would be something that I would hope that Democrats could agree with Trump and the Republicans on here, but no. Slava, Ukraine, or whatever it is that they say, you know, fight. Ukraine should fight to the very last drop of Ukrainian men, Ukrainians blood, according to Democrats in this country who aren't doing any fighting and don't really know what the hell's going on anyway. That's the situation. And when you read the New York Times update on this, they're so negative about the prospects here for any kind of success. Meanwhile, at any point when Biden was president, did you hear talk of a ceasefire negotiation or a ceasefire at all? Was there any point at which that. No, it didn't. So Trump hasn't even been office for two months, and here we are at a New phase of this conflict with at least the prospect of ending this thing. And people got so upset, the Democrats got so upset about what happened to Zelensky in the Oval Office. Meanwhile, Zelensky's come back, said, look, sorry about that. Ok, ok, I get it. You know, we, Neither side is going to be happy here in this negotiation. Neither side is going to get everything that they want. And this is what's so interesting to me. The New York Times and others in their reporting completely leave off that Trump is saying, look, Russia, you're gonna get, you're gonna get hit with a whole new level of financial pain here, specifically with regard to EU purchases. EU ability to buy oil and gas from Russia, from the banking system, which has still been going on, by the way. Yeah, Ukraine, I mean, EU cares so much about Ukraine, but they still gotta buy Russian oil and gas. It's been going down, but they're still doing it. That there'll be financial consequences for Russia. That hurt. A huge part of Russian gdp, a huge part of the Russian economy has been going to funding this war affairs. It is painful for them, too. I, I know that we have been led to believe that Putin is, is like Stalin Part 2, and that he wants to run roughshod over all of Europe and he doesn't care how many people die and he's not a rational actor and all this stuff. No, I think actually he would rather just get what he wants out of this and be able to stop spending so much money and so many lives on this conflict. And he doesn't want his country to be feeling economic, true economic pain, the kind that Trump is laying out for him. So this is important. This is a milestone. This is moving in the right direction. Trump isn't saying it's a done deal. No one's saying it's a done deal. But all of the people that are currently reporting on this, who voted for Kamala, which tells you everything you need to know about their judgment, are acting like, oh, you know, this is all going to be a sellout or whatever. I thought Democrats didn't like war. Well, apparently they like wars that other people fight, including other Americans. But, you know, Democrats actually are not an anti war party. That's what you, when you really think about it and you go back, you look at the history, you know, they just. The thing for Democrats is they want other people fighting wars that they can feel good about themselves. And is it in the American best interest to fight the war? That doesn't matter. Democrats only want to fight wars that make them feel good about themselves at cocktail parties. That's really what their standard is. And whether it helps America or not, whether we're losing Americans or not, that's a secondary consideration. So the fact that we're getting to a point where even having a discussion about a ceasefire is or should be seen as very encouraging, you know, we don't sell. You remember my mantra. You don't celebrate early. You never celebrate early. There's no celebration here but progress. Okay? We can be cold and calculating about this and still say, hey, okay, this is moving in the right direction. And Trump is saying that there's leverage to be used against Russia here, too.

[Carol Markowitz]

So.

[Clay Travis]

So for all the, oh, he's Putin's puppet and everything else he's saying, look, does anybody believe for one second that if Putin is totally unreasonable and blows up these negotiations, that Trump is going to hesitate to use the tools at his disposal to turn up the heat on Vlad? Of course he will. Of course he will. If for no other reason than. You don't. You don't make Trump. You don't try to make Trump look silly on the world stage when he's really dedicated to something, Putin or no Putin, doesn't matter who it is. But see, this is what. What the Democrats fundamentally refuse to understand about Trump, which is who he really is and what he is all about. They just. They still don't get him. I don't know if they can understand Trump or they won't understand Trump, but the notion of him as anyone's puppet, as I've been saying to you, is laughable for anyone who has spent five minutes with the guy, really. I mean, I've spent a lot more time with him than that. But anybody who's talked to Trump for about any serious subject, taking orders from Putin, it's as stupid as people saying that. That Elon Musk is Putin's puppet, too. Yeah, the guy worth $300 billion is. Is going to get ordered around by Vladimir Putin. It's so. Because of financial interest. It's so dumb that you don't even want to waste brain cells on it. So I really hope that this is a breakthrough moment. I think it could be the beginning of a major breakthrough in this. And here's the. Here's the truth. I want the killing to stop, and I don't want to ever have to think about Ukraine again, really. You know, and that doesn't make me a bad person. I want the killing to stop. I want the Ukrainians and I want the Russians who have been conscripted and are being thrown to this meat grinder. I want them to go home to their families. I want them, you know, eating chicken nuggets and watching sitcoms and thinking about their future. You know, this whole thing is a waste that's going. I want it to stop. We all should want it to stop, and then we don't have to think about it anymore. I don't want this to be our problem. This shouldn't be our problem. We got our own things to worry about over here. America first, right? So this is all in line with where we want this to go. And I think that there's very good reasons for, for optimism. It's not a done deal, but I think that there are good reasons for optimism. Trump also gave an update on Canada. Less serious than Russia, Ukraine, war, obviously, but this just happened. I want to play this for you. This is from the Oval office moments ago. Cut 25. Hit it.

[Buck Sexton]

You know, the United States can't subsidize a country for $200 billion a year. We don't need their cars. We don't need their energy. We don't need their lumber. We don't need anything that they, that they give. We do it because we want to be helpful. But it comes a point when you just can't do that. You have to run your own country. And to be honest with you, Canada only works as a state. It doesn't. We don't need anything they have as a state. It would be one of the great states anyway. This would be the most incredible country visually. If you look at a map, they drew an artificial line right through it between Canada and the U.S. just a straight artificial line. Somebody did it a long time ago, many, many decades ago, and makes no sense.

[Clay Travis]

Interesting. Trump is really leaning into this Canada 51st state thing. I believe that it's negotiation and pressure from Trump, and also he likes to. He likes to poke at the Canadian leadership a little bit. But on the tariff issue and on what, what is financially meaningful in all of this, I think Trump has a pretty straightforward, pretty straightforward approach. No more free rides on the American, the back of the American people. No more subsidizing your domestic industry in Canada at the expense of our consumers, unless you want to have the same thing done to you, reciprocal tariffs. And I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why that's unfair or a bad idea. Right. To me, it's. It strikes me that that should be both fair play and smart play. And if something is fair play and smart play, why wouldn't you do it? Why wouldn't you do it? Unless there's something. Unless there's something I'm missing. We'll get into, oh, something else that Trump said coming up here in a minute about the trans issue, which you will definitely want to hear. Look, nothing good happens when your online personal information gets in the hands of a cyber hacker. When the bad guys have access to open accounts in your name, hack bank accounts. Bad stuff, right? Your world stops. What can you do about this? Well, there's a reason I have LifeLock LifeLock membership for all these years. Their online identity theft protection is second to none. Lots of places can accidentally expose your personal information, giving these cyber hackers a head start on you. That's why having lifelocks online identity theft protection is a big help. Lifelock detects and alerts you to potential identity threats you may not spot on your own, like loans taken out in your name. And if you do become a victim of identity theft, a dedicated U S based restoration specialist will fix it, guaranteed or your money back terms apply. It's easy to help protect yourself with lifelock. Join now and save 40 off your first year with my name Buck as your promo code. Call 1-800-LIFELOCK or go online to lifelock.com and use promo code Buck for 40% off news and politics. But also a little comic relief. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, welcome back in. And we were just discussing some of Trump's latest updates from the Oval Office. The President just spoke moments ago, diving into the Russia, Ukraine situation. It's really hard to read the Democrat press on this whole situation and not feel like they are rooting for Trump to fail to achieve a cease fire, even though that means a lot of people are going to die. Am I missing something? Even though a lot of, a lot more Russians and Ukrainians are going to die if there isn't a ceasefire that's durable and that gets to an end of this conflict. I think that the New York Times is and others are rooting for failure on this one. I honestly believe that and I think when you read their reportage on it, that is what you come away with. But let's go to another issue that Trump spoke on. The Canada stuff is interesting. I don't really know exactly what Trump's going for on that one. I think it's, I think it's posturing and negotiating. I get that. But he is really, he is really poking, poking the Wolverine, if you will. Or I'm trying to think of what would be a poking. Do we think of moose? I always think of Maine, not Canada. Like, what's the. What is the animal most associated with Canada? As I say, poking the bear. Is it bears? We got bears here. Yeah, we got a lot of the same things that Canada does. Pretty similar places here. We have Trump, though, weighing in on the trans issue in a way that. Well, only Trump. Only Trump would play. 26.

[Buck Sexton]

I saw this morning where one of them is pretty well known. One is arguing, fighting like crazy over men being able to play in women's sports. I said, yeah, I thought that was tried. I thought that was about a 95. I think it's a 95% issue. But in a way, I want them to keep doing it because I don't think they can win a race. I mean, I tell the Republicans, I said, don't bring that subject up because there's no election right now, but about a week before the election, bring it up because you can't lose. And everything's transgender this, transgender that. You know, it's. They have bad politics, but one thing, they stick together. I wish the Republicans stick together mostly, but we have a couple that are grandstanders. You know, you always have grandstanders in life, but the Democrats, they don't seem. They have grandstandors, but when it comes to a vote, they do stick together. Right.

[Clay Travis]

So everything is transist and trans. That when it comes to Democrats. True. They. They've simultaneously pushed the issue everywhere and then pretend they don't care about the issue anywhere. When we say no, that's the game that they play with trans issues with. With other things, too, but specifically on this one, it's. They demand that we obey them. And when we say no, they say, why are we even talking about this? Why. Why are you bringing this up? Okay. Crazy. That's what they're doing. I didn't get to this before I mentioned the top of the show. The would be Michigan congressman who is not going to run anymore because he's going to focus on running for president in 2028 is. Drumroll. The former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, Pete Buttigieg. Pete Buttigieg lining up to be the leader of the Democrat party for 2028. I will just tell you, I think that this is great for the Democrats. Big fan of this idea. Hope that they put tons of money behind Pete, tons of time, you know, trying to build him up in the media. Yeah, I would love to see a Buttigieg Vance showdown. I think that would be excellent. So I'm just gonna put it that way. I don't want to give them too many tips, too much advice for the Democrats. But yeah, Pete Buttigieg, go with that one, guys. That's, that's the ticket. That's what we want to see. Uh, looking for, looking forward to how that one shakes out for them. You know, Walkie talkies are back. Not the kind we had as kids, but the modern 2025 version does so much more. Rapid radios, my friends. That's what we're talking about. Rapid radios operate on a nationwide LTE network of cell phone towers. That means you can use them to speak to people thousands of miles away as easily as if they're just a hundred yards away. Rapid radios are super easy to use with just one touch button. Great for aging family members that don't want to deal with a cell phone. Or if you want to just keep your kids off the Internet. People also use rapid radios during times of crisis, like a natural disaster. Remember they were invaluable for my in laws in the Asheville area after Hurricane Helene. I was talking to the next day from their living room on my rapid radio. Go to rapidradios.com you'll get up to 60 off free UPS shipping from Michigan plus a free protection bag. Add code radio and get an extra 5% off these rapid radios. Walkie talkies have batteries with a five day charge ready to go out of the box. Rapidradios.com is that website address again rapidradios.com use code radio. Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Carol Markowitz joins us now. She is the host of the Carol Markowitz show on the Clay and Buck Podcast network which we hope you will all subscribe to and check out also normally with Mary Kathryn Ham. Two shows they're doing fantastically. Carol, great to have you on.

[Carol Markowitz]

Hi Buck. Thanks so much for having me.

[Clay Travis]

So let's talk about the first off. Did you see the loons running into Trump Tower? And they've been, they've been rounded up and flex cuffed and everything else, but a lot of, lot of Jews for Palestine signs in there. What's, what's this all about?

[Carol Markowitz]

Well, I'll tell you that the Jewish voices for peace are neither Jews nor for peace. So don't take their word for it. A lot of them just use the label to say that, oh, we're not like the other Jews who actually support the existence of Israel and they might have some relative in the distant past that was Jewish and so they claim that, or sometimes they don't even have that. But they're also not for peace because there was peace on October 6th. They weren't protesting on October 7th when Hamas attacked Israel. They're only around to basically cause harm to Israel and to America. You know, it kind of bothers me that it's gotten to where the protests are seen as just about Israel. They're really not. They're about Western civilization. They're about the United States. If you remember back to last year, where the frat boys became the heroes of the day, they weren't protecting the Israeli flag. They were protecting the American flag that the protesters were trying to destroy. So, you know, I get that Israel is a hot issue, and obviously a lot of things stem from the Middle east, but really, we're protecting Western civilization, and these lunatics want to bring it down.

[Clay Travis]

Now, what do you think about the left rallying around this Mahmoud Khalil guy? I mean, Secretary Rubio, we played him earlier in the show talking about how it's pretty straightforward. And by the way, I didn't know that the Secretary of State, or rather that the federal government, had the authority to just say, you know, even if you're on a green card. Right. Visa, that. That I would have guessed. Yeah. You can probably just be told, go home, you're here on a visa. But even with a green card, it's probationary status until you actually get citizenship. So you can still be told, like, adios.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah, that's exactly it. And if you go to any other country and you try to foment dissent and start protests, you're going to face the same challenges, especially if you're. If you're part of your cause is to bring down the country that you would like to be a part. A lot of it is when you come to the U.S. you get permission by the U.S. government, you're not allowed to do certain things, and you have to behave yourself. If you get in trouble with the law in a way that an American citizen might even have a small misdemeanor, you could be kicked out for that. A lot of things that you need to live up to when you're trying to become a citizen of America. There are some challenges, and there are definitely some roadblocks that are meant to be there so that we get kind of the best people. And what's happening in the last decade is that we've completely forgotten about how the whole process works. There used to be a process in place, of course, during the Biden administration. People just came in they could do whatever they want. They didn't have to follow any of the rules or laws. I think what we're seeing now is an end to that kind of attitude that, no, this is not going to happen on Donald Trump's watch. He got elected under the idea of getting rid of a lot of the policies that have really slowed our country down. And this is one of those that we can't have people, people coming from around the world to tell us that they don't want us to exist, that they. That they want to bring down our country and us to smile and accept it. That's just not the way it's supposed to go. And I'm glad that the Donald Trump administration is standing up for that, you know, concept.

[Clay Travis]

Why are they. Why are they rallying? I mean, obviously, I know Mahmoud Khalil is the guy that they've chosen to make an example of. I think so. But for the Democrats right now, given their party's fortunes, to go to the mat over a guy who has openly said that he wants to bring about the end of Western civilization, who has. Who has been a part of. I always feel it's frustrating to call them protests because they were really kind of intimidation gatherings at Columbia University. Right. I mean, it goes when you're breaking laws as part of the movement. It's just like what BLM did. Right? There were some protests, but there were people being punched in the face and buildings being burned down, too. So he was a part of that. Don't Democrats realize, like, the center of the country, that they need to try to win back or fool into voting for them isn't going to look favorably on this. Why Mahmoud Khalil? Why now?

[Carol Markowitz]

Right. It's so odd because they seem so out of touch with the country. They're just kind of grappling around for anything to oppose the Trump administration. I actually see it really similarly like what happened today at Trump Tower. Very similar to what's going on around the country with the Tesla dealerships. These people are Graffiti. Tesla Dealership 1 was firebombed. These violent attacks on Tesla dealerships because Elon Musk dares work in the Trump administration. He dares have a different opinion than they do, and it's considered sort of acceptable. I think, again, we've gotten to a place where these kinds of riotous behavior is allowed, or at least not prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. And I think the change is here. And I hope that they do punish these people. I hope that they, you know, do arrest Them and anybody who caused any problems in Tesla dealerships or at the Trump Tower is actually held accountable. What do Democrats want? I think that they want to continue the system that we've had for the last few years. I think they want their friends to not be held accountable. I want that they want their friends to be able to do whatever they want and for us all to say, well, we can't do anything about it. I think that they're going to run into the wall of the Trump administration with that.

[Clay Travis]

We're speaking to Carol Markowitz. Carol Markowitz podcast and normally podcasts with Carol and Mary Kathryn Ham are part of the Klan Buck Network. They're growing numbers every month. They're doing great. You should check them out. Especially we have a lot of moms in this audience. We want everyone to listen, but a lot of moms this audience. You will love both Carol show and the show she does with Mary Kathryn Ham. So go subscribe to that today. And Carol, you mentioned the Elon thing. I know. I think it's hard for us to get in the mindset of the other side sometimes, because I truly believe that some of the activist left, like there's a part of them or a lot of them are deranged. I mean, they're separate from reality. And the ones who truly believe that climate change is an existential threat, on the one hand, they say this all the time. And Barack Obama said that when he was president, like, this is the term existential threats, what they're supposed to say. And yet they hate Elon, and they don't see the problem with that. And I just think it's interesting. Either they don't believe it's an existential threat and that's just all hot air, or they just care more about hating Trump and his people than saving the planet by their own logic.

[Carol Markowitz]

Right? Well, I always said that about them, which is, you know, when you have Leonardo DiCaprio alone on a yacht, does he really care about climate change? When you have Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and all these people who say that they care about climate change flying around in their private planes, do they really care about climate change? If I was concerned about climate change, I'd be living very differently than they're living. I wouldn't be buying, like Barack Obama did, a house right on the ocean, I think I would have some concerns about that. So I don't think that they believe any of that. I think that they want to reorientate our economy. So that. And they're using climate change as the excuse to do that. But I don't believe that they really think that climate is going to cause the kinds of problems that they predict for the rest of us. Obviously Al Gore had some predictions, you know, back in the early 2000s. None of them came true. And so, no, they use climate change as the hammer to like beat the rest of us with.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. It just strikes me that the whole thing is so dissing, it's so disingenuous and has been all. And the leaders of that movement, I mean, Al Gore, the whole thing has just been Greta Thunberg people. I will never forget CNN breathlessly reporting on every word about a 16 year old girl talking about how we have to change trillions of dollars of economic output because her future has been stolen from her.

[Carol Markowitz]

Right. I remember when Greta Thunberg, my kids would come home from school in Brooklyn and I'd say, what did you learn today? And they'd say, we learned about Greta Thunberg every day for like months and months and months. She was the entire science curriculum. So it is really part of being part of the team is you're supposed to say the right words, you're supposed to worship the right people. And the left has really got to realize that people are on to them and they don't like their team anymore. That the things that they say come across as crazy to the rest of the country. And I don't know if they reverse themselves anytime soon or they just keep going and hope for the best.

[Clay Travis]

Carol, one more for you here. I'm just. Have you heard the latest from Trump on Canada?

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah, Buck, I don't want Canada to be our 51st state. I don't like Canada.

[Clay Travis]

So help me out because I'm, look, with the tariff stuff and with, with Russia, Ukraine, I see so many things where I, I know, I know what Trump's doing. Trump's doing the Trump thing. I think on Canada, he's doing a version of the Trump thing with the 51st state thing. Is he just straight trolling them? What do you make of this? Because you're very reasonable about all things Trump. You know, you don't get all hysterical. But I sit here, I'm like, he's really, he's really staying on this. I'm a little surprised.

[Carol Markowitz]

Right? You know, I really don't know because I thought he was trolling and then it doesn't seem like he's trolling anymore. Back in December, I tweeted or whatever it's called on X, but I posted it's important to stand up to Donald Trump and say, absolutely no, we don't want Canada to be our 51st state. And I was joking and all the responses were like, Trump is joking. You gotta stop taking him so seriously. But you know, now we're in March and he's still saying it, so I don't know. I mean, I know they have good maple syrup, but I just, I don't want to end sentences a. And I don't want to apologize for everything and I don't want Canadians to be American. That's it. Leave Canadians as they are.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I, I, I feel, I feel the same way about a Greenland I'm a little greedier about because not a lot of people, not enough votes to, to mess with us. You know, there's like 50000 people there and a lot of land and a lot of resources and strategic value. I, you know, I think shoving Greenland around a little bit to get them to, to see reality, that one I'm cool with. But Canada, this place just elected Justin Trudeau. I mean, I, I think Justin Trudeau is arguably the worst leader of any democratic country in the entire, I mean, maybe the world, I don't know, certainly the entire western world.

[Carol Markowitz]

Yeah, I'm very much not a fan and it definitely concerns me that this, this joke has gone on a little too long. I, yeah, I don't mind trolling Canada if that's what we're doing here, but if, if there's really any attempt to have them join us, I say no, thank you.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I don't, I don't think there will be. So I do think, I just think Trump really enjoys this. He really, he's just like having a great time just poking at them with this. Carol Markowitz everybody. Check out the Carol Markowitz show and normally. And Carol, great talk to you as always. Thanks for being here.

[Carol Markowitz]

Thanks so much.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Beaver is the animal that is most associated with Canada.

[Clay Travis]

So they would be poking the beaver.

[Buck Sexton]

If you're messing with Canada.

[Clay Travis]

Whoa. Interesting. So yes, I did not know the beaver was the national animal of Canada. I will say that is a, that is interesting data point that had eluded me, but it makes sense. The beaver used to be an industry unto himself. The unassuming little. The rotund rodent of the beaver was a huge industry because of the obsession, if memory serves, from my history with using their pelts, particularly for hats. Am I right on this one, team? I think that's. The fur trade was a big deal in Canada and particularly in the, again, the early days when it was a French French colony. First the fur trade, the French trappers, all that stuff. And there were fights, you know, sometimes pretty intense ones over with the, with the native population, the Indians, over who had trapping rights, etc. So yeah, beavers were a big deal. The fur trade is actually. That was the one scene in the movie the Revenant that I think was really well done and is historically is based on a true incident. Historically was when the fur trappers. It's the Leonardo DiCaprio movie. I'm sure you've seen it. There's a very intense sequence with a bear, but the opening sequence, the movie is really well done and pretty haunting. And it's about a local Indian tribe, I forget which one. You know, there's a lot of them that just decided, you know, we don't like these, these, these Euro European descent fur trapper guys. So we're just gonna go in there and take them out. And it actually happened. This was a real thing in the, in the 19th century. So if team, if you remember what, do a quick. I can't do it because sometimes when Clay's, you're right, he'll be saying something and I can do the real time check. But if I do that, you'll hear me typing and thinking out loud. Tell me when, when that was the incident that is in the beginning of the Revenant and what the tribe was. But it was a real thing because the fur trade was a big deal because we didn't have all these different synthetic fibers and everything else. And so that was important. So we learned that the beaver is the national animal. Another Denver Talk Back 93. 7 Getting a lot of listeners. Thank you listener Jason. DD Hit it. Democrats have the dumbest constituents and they know this. That's why they're going to continue with the shutdown. And then they're going to say that it's Republicans fault. Since they own all branches of government. They know they have the dumbest constituents and they do have the dumbest constituents. And I guarantee you after the shutdown, all the morons on MSNBC are going to still say it's Republicans fault. I think our listener Jason thinks the Democrats have the dumbest constituents. I think, I think he's made that clear. Yes, they will try to claim that, Jason. I don't know if they will be successful, though, in terms of overall public opinion. By the way, the opening scene of the Revenant, the attacking Native American tribe is the Arikara. Interesting. Yeah, see, that was one of the more obscure ones. Not like the Sioux, the Iroquois, the Cherokee, the ones that we all know, you know, the Pawnee, etc. The Ari. Arikara. There you go. Good scene. Back with you tomorrow. Talk to you then. Ever wake up feeling lousy knowing something is off with your body? You don't have time for guesswork. You need viome. Forget all the generic health fads. Viome doesn't tell you what you want to hear. It tells you what's actually going on inside your body. By analyzing your GUT microbiome, Viome delivers a custom health plan that's as unique as your DNA. It's science, not nonsense. Want energy? Want better digestion? Viome has your back. Stop trusting amateurs. Go to viome.com for a personalized gut professional. Now call Star Star Gut to get $110 off any test that's Star Star 488 to receive a link to the offer.