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Clay Travis
In our number three Clay and Buck show, we are talking about a wide variety of different topics. Thomas Massie loses to ed gallerin in Kentucky 4. The biggest result of the primary night in Congress. We have a lot of different nominees, it looks like, that are going to be selected in Kentucky, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Idaho and Oregon. And we have discussed the outcome in those six states. Also, the continued fallout of yesterday's indecision made by President Trump to endorse Ken Paxton over John Cornyn. And also we have been discussing everything having to do with the continued fallout. And we'll get into this a bit more later this hour. The Department of Justice has indicted Raul Castro for the murder of individuals from the United States who were flying in non military aircraft dropping leaflets. But we are joined now by Judge Roy Altman, who is in the Miami area, a United States District Court judge. He's got a brand new book out called Israel on Trial, examining the history, the evidence and the law. And let's start right now. Obviously the Israeli influence on the United States as it pertains to Iran has been a huge topic of discussion, including in last night's Kentucky four race. Thomas Massie against Ed Gallran. What is in based on your research, your evidence, what is the impact of Israel on United States policy? How extensive is it? How fair is criticism of the United States Israeli relationship based on your research and your perspective?
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Judge Roy Altman
Well, thanks for having me on. I'm not an expert in this, I should say, and I didn't write the book as a judge. But I think it's fair to say it's become public now that as relates to the war in Iran, that the Gulf states, including the United Arab Emirates and even the Saudis and maybe to some extent the Bahrainis and Kuwaitis were at the White House doorstep imploring the president to stop the Iranians from building a nuclear bomb and continuing to be a threat to regional stability. Just as Much or more so as the Israelis were.
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Buck Sexton
Judge, Judge Altman, appreciate you being here. It's, it's buck and I have your book right in front of me here and I was very pleased I was able to hear you speak about it here in Miami Beach. I was able to get my, get my copy. And you have excellent people who like your book by the way, because there were some Clay and Buck listeners in the book line which was very fun to see. So it was really like a convergence of great Americans there. But Israel on trial, everyone I know who has read this book has had glowing things to say about it. What take us through a bit of the case because as you know right now there's certainly on the left you can get elected to Congress right now if you're a full on Israel hating anti Semite, quite honestly. I mean there are Democrats who are pretty open about how they really wish for the destruction of Israel or something close to it. On the right we don't have that to the same degree. But there are people who go beyond wanting to talk about the foreign policy implications of Israel to more of the foundational should we even be mixed up in this whole thing side of things. So what do you say about all this?
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Judge Roy Altman
But that and they've proven it time and again. They proved it just now in the war in Iran, which they didn't want, didn't necessarily want more than the United States did or than other regional allies wanted. And Israel has proven time and again at the United nations voting with the United states more than 93% of the time. I think year to year it's more votes with the United States positions than any other country in the world. But they've also proven it technologically time and again. In my travels around the United States, I get people come up to me at churches and community centers and schools all across the 50 states in this country who work for the Department of War, who work in cybersecurity, who work in tech procurement for the Navy and who say Judge, you have no idea how right you are. We sell Israel a piece of technology, by the way. We sell it to them, not give it to them. They thus facilitating and stimulating our economy and creating thousands of jobs in our military industrial tech industry which are badly needed. And then they do something we can't do with that technology. They test it in battle in real time and they give us minute by minute assessments of what it's doing well and what it's doing badly. And then something amazing happens a year or two later. They give it back to us for free. And it's unrecognizable, these people tell me, from the product that was sold to them in the first instance, because it's 10 times better and more prepared for the wars we'll need to fight in the future than it was when we gave it to them. And that's why the United States has signed a memorandum of understanding on full and complete transparency on AI, machine learning, quantum computing and cybersecurity with only one other nation in the world, and that nation is tiny Israel, thousands of miles away, just like India just did. Because these two giants, America and India, understand that Israel is the future. And we can either get on that bandwagon or. Or we can lose them to somebody else.
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Clay Travis
What would you say? I went to Israel about a year and a half ago. I had never been before. It was an eye opening experience. One of the things that stood out to me was there are everybody thinks of Israel as only being filled with Jewish people, but there's actually a large amount of religious diversity, Arab Christian variety of different backgrounds. What would the Middle east look like if everyone had the freedoms that exist in Israel?
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Judge Roy Altman
Well, I sit down with Arab Muslim leaders in Israel every time I go, and they laugh at the way that Israel is being portrayed in the United States. Arab Muslims in Israel have more rights to vote, to serve in elected office, to run for office, to become medical doctors and dentists and lawyers than they do in almost any other country in the region. They have longer lifespans and higher socioeconomic mobility. In fact, the percentage of dentists and nurses in Israel, as my book lays out, graduation and matriculation rates from some of the largest universities in the country among Arab Muslims is almost 50%, even though they're only 20% of the population. The truth is, it's one of the most diverse. Not just religiously, by the way, not just between Druze and Muslims and Christians and Jews, but racially. When you walk around the streets of Jerusalem or Tel Aviv and Haisawa, you see a business next to another business owned by black people and Arab people and sometimes Latin people and Russian people all on one street living and working together in a way that just does not exist in other countries in the region. The fact of the matter is that the idea of having a Jewish person who's a Supreme Court justice in Tehran or a general in the army in Damascus, or a lawyer, dentist or doctor in Ramallah or Gaza is of course absurd. It's inconceivable. But there are Muslim and Druze Supreme Court justices In Israel, there are Muslim and Druze and Christian lawyers, dentists, doctors and trial judges all over the country. It is by far the most diverse, pluralistic and open democracy in the region.
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Buck Sexton
Speaking to Judge Roy Altman, his book Israel on Trial, it's already New York Times bestseller. I have my copy right here. Highly recommend you all go get yours. And Roy, can you speak about, I mean, I heard you talk about this a little bit live, but I wanted you to tell this audience in all 50 states about what it is like going to college campuses and trying to engage with a student body that, as we have seen in some cases, not all cases by any stretch, can be almost maniacally hostile to the state of Israel. How has the, how have those experiences either given you hope or made you more, made you more concerned? I just wanted you to speak to what it's like to engage with some of the anti Israel stuff on the campuses.
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Judge Roy Altman
I'm very optimistic, as you heard me say, about the future of America. I believe, as Martin Luther King repeatedly said, who by the way was an ardent Zionist until the day he died, that the moral arc of history bends towards justice and our cause, the cause of America, which is intertwined with ancient Jewish values, as Lincoln said, as Washington believed, is the most righteous and just cause in history. And so I believe that we will prevail and my time on college campuses only reinforce that belief. Yes, 10% of college campus populations are vehemently anti America. They're anti Western civilization, they're anti all the blessings and privileges that have been fought for and bestowed on them for reasons that are very difficult to understand. Much of it having to do with foreign influence. But the 90% of people on these college campuses are still open to being persuaded by reason and logic and common sense. About 30% of them are super patriotic. They're usually Christian or Jewish. They're Zionist, they're pro American, they're patriotic, they love the west, they understand its value as the greatest force for good the world has ever known. But in the middle, that broad middle, the 60%, not the 10% who are anti American Israel, not the 30% who are vehemently pro American Israel, but that big 60% in the middle, they want to go to class, they want to study, they want to meet girls, they want their football team to win on Saturday, they're not so overly obsessed with Jews and things that are happening, happening thousands of miles away. But they are open hearted and good faith Americans who are open to being persuaded if we make the right arguments based on logic and Common sense, as I do in the book.
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Clay Travis
Last question for you, Judge Roy Altman. The book is out there. We encourage everybody to check it out. You're talking about these college kids. When you hear them chant Free, free Palestine or you hear them say from the river to the sea, Israel must be free, like all these different things, what does the history suggest? I know that all political slogans are often simplified versions of, of, of an argument, but what does the history suggest about what happened when Israel was founded? I know that's a big question, but what do you think kids in college should know when you hear them say Free, free Palestine or from the river to the sea?
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Judge Roy Altman
Well, there are two really important things to understand about the history and just to do it quickly because I know we're on. The first is that a Palestinian state was already created. In 1921, there was a British Mandate of Palestine, which was a foreign occupied colony of the British Empire which comprised modern day what's Israel and what's now Jordan. The Jews believe they were entitled, based on the Balfour Declaration of 1917, to the entire Mandate of Palestine to be the future Jewish state. In 1921, it became clear that wasn't to be. The British understood they were going to need oil from the Arab states, a future global conflict. And so they ceded 77% of that land to create a state for the Arab Muslim Palestinians. They weren't called Palestinians then, but they were the Arab Muslims who lived in the British Colony of Palestine. That country became first known as Trans Jordan on the other side of the Jordan. Then it became the Kingdom of Jordan. And ultimately today we know it as Jordan. So there is a Palestinian state full of Palestinian Muslim Arabs. There's a Palestinian queen in that state today. The prince and future king of that state is a Palestinian. And over 60% of the population are people who are Arab Muslims from the Mandate of Palestine. So there is a Palestinian state. What they really want is a second Palestinian state, a 58th Muslim state, a 23rd Arab state in the world. But it's just too much to have one teeny tiny Jewish state. The second and more important thing to understand is that Israel and the international community have already offered the Palestinians on six prior occasions. In 1936 in the Peel Commission, 1947 in the Partition Plan, 1967 at Khartoum after the Six Day War in Sudan, 1993 at Oslo, 2000 at Camp David with Bill Clinton, and again 2008 with Ehud Olmer as the Prime Minister. On six different occasions, Israel, America and the international community offered the Palestinians their own state, their own sovereign territory with their own government to do as they please with on the lands that college kids now seem to believe they deserve a state on. And what college kids don't understand is the Palestinians rejected that state on six different occasions. College campus campuses from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free is only the English jingle that they created in order to appeal to and deceive American college kids. In Arabic, the phrase runs, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be Arabic. They want a full Palestinian Arab state from the Jordan river to the Mediterranean Sea with no Jews on it. That's what they've done in every other Arab country in the world, where they've expelled and ethnically cleansed the 850,000 Jews who lived all over the Muslim world starting in the middle of the 20th century. People who have lived there, by the way, for centuries, all ethnically cleansed. They want to do the same thing with the 10 million people who now live in Israel. And we're never going to allow that to happen.
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Buck Sexton
Israel on Trial is the book. Roy Altman is the author. Judge Altman and Judge, appreciate you being with us. Congrats on the book and come back anytime.
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Judge Roy Altman
Thanks, man. Thanks for having me.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
No doubt. And here is an announcement of that which happened since we went on the air today. Every day it feels like major different breaking News. This is cut 32, Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche announcing that indictment against Raul Castro.
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Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche
Today we are announcing an indictment charging Raul Castro and several others with conspiracy to kill u. S. Nationals. Mr. Castro and the others are charged with additional crimes as well, including destruction of aircraft and four individual counts of murder. The indictment was returned by a grand jury sitting in this district in Miami on April 23, 2026, and was unsealed today. For nearly 30 years, 30 years, the families of four murdered Americans have waited for justice. My message today is clear. The United States and President Trump does not and will not forget its citizens.
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Clay Travis
All right, so, Buck, you're in South Florida. This obviously has set off a lot of reaction in the Cuban community, many of whom are listening to this program right now. And I think what it definitely augurs and success that we are headed towards is new leadership in Cuba. And I, I, I think that's going to happen in the next couple of months. How exactly it will go, there's lots of different moving parts, but I would say this is probably one of the reasons that Marco Rubio, our current secretary of state, got into politics. And I think this matters to him immensely.
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Buck Sexton
I agree.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Just keep in mind they, they deployed the brothers to the rescue, shoot down Clay. It's, it's, it's one of these things down here in South Florida is very much remembered. Back in 1996, they were, this was a group that just conducted humanitarian search and rescue. Completely unarmed, just civilians, basically flying planes were like, hey, if you're trying to get to the US and you're about to drown or be eaten by sharks because of the 90 miles of ocean you have to go through, we're going to, we're going to, you know, we're going to help you out. And the Cuban air force just blew them out of the sky. So just to be clear, it was, it was murder. It was ordered by the regime. And so this, this is absolutely what, what should be happening.
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Clay Travis
We're going to. So that is what's going on. We'll probably continue to talk about it, but I think it's a important story here that we will continue to follow. I want to play a couple of cuts. New York City has lost its way. There is an ongoing protest in favor of Luigi Mangione is going on. But I did want to play. Since we're talking New York City and I mentioned this a little bit ago, let me play this as well. Jeff Bezos did a big sit down interview with cnbc. He said a lot of very rational things, including what would happen if Amazon ran the New York City school system as poorly as the New York City school system is running. Listen to this buck. This is cut 30.
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Buck Sexton
The New York City school system, right?
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Clay Travis
They spend $44,000 per student. 44,000. That's 30% more per student than other
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Judge Roy Altman
big cities like Chicago, L.A. and Boston.
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Clay Travis
And it's three times more than Miami and Houston.
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Judge Roy Altman
And by the way, New York City
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Clay Travis
doesn't get better outcomes. But so this, Listen, let me, let
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Judge Roy Altman
me just say if, if, if we ran Amazon the way New York City runs their school system, right, Your packages
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Clay Travis
would take six weeks to arrive.
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Judge Roy Altman
We'd have to charge you $100 delivery fee. And then when the package did finally
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Clay Travis
arrive, it have the wrong item in it anyway. I thought that was really well said. You might say, okay, what is the result of a failed New York City school system? Well, one result is you've got people who have lost the ability to look at facts and even have rational discussions surrounding them. And that ties in with members of the New York City press corps credentialed outside of Luigi Mangione's hearing. This is what they had to say. There are two different cuts here. I think it's important to talk, and we have tried to do this quite a lot on the program about the fact that there is good and evil and just putting it forward pretty simply. If you walk into an American city street and you pull out a gun and you shoot someone in the back, you are the bad guy. You are evil. There should be awful consequences for this. That's exactly what happened to the UnitedHealthcare CEO on the streets of Manhattan. That's what Luigi Mangione is going on trial for. Listen to what members of the media had to say earlier this week outside of that courtroom. Here is part one, cut 27.
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Protester/Left-wing Commentator
I said what I said, I don't give a. His children are better off without him. They need to learn to not be like their dad and enjoy the blood money.
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Clay Travis
Kids.
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Protester/Left-wing Commentator
What was that?
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Buck Sexton
I didn't get that, what you said.
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Protester/Left-wing Commentator
I'm standing on business. Ryan Thompson. I don't give a flying. Millions of Americans. I liked it. Millions of Americans suffer every single day. We had a literal infinite who. Because of how negligent her health insurance was. She died. An infant died. So if you guys are okay with someone like Brian Thompson being around and that being a part of our society that's more about you as a person because you look absolutely monstrous defending someone like that.
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Clay Travis
I know it's a little bit hard to understand, but they were basically saying the kids are better off f him. And then here's more of it. They say that the health care CEO should be killed and he's responsible for more deaths than Osama bin Laden participates in social murder.
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Protester/Left-wing Commentator
That's what we're responsible for. More deaths than Osama bin Laden. And I remember Americans celebrating when Osama bin Laden was killed. It's not like we don't understand heroic violence or like when violence is good. There's a. That's like as American as America. I mean, why do we protect the Second Amendment so much as they to allow people to shoot up schools? Or is it. I think it's to protect our democracy. It's not saying, you know, we should all think of arms, but when your democracy is eroded and there's no Other option, like, what are we meant to do?
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Clay Travis
Okay, so again, Buck, watch these videos. We'll share them from the Clay and Buck account so that you can watch because sometimes I know it's a little bit. There's a lot of cross talk. Everybody's trying to speak at once. These protesters are there celebrating the fact that Luigi Mangioni killed Brian Thompson. They think he's a hero.
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Buck Sexton
They said it's heroic violence. They were also credentialed members of the press that day. I just. Whatever that means. I mean, they had press passes. So somehow the city of New York said, you know what? These people have some journalistic interest in being out here at, in front of this, this courthouse. But this is if you spend time online and particularly spend time on Blue sky, which is the lib digital insane asylum. It's where all of the ones who couldn't handle a free and fair platform like X. I mean, I remember I used to get people. I would get dragged by like random leftists or whatever on, on. And I always felt like I was like, do I have any followers on here? The whole thing was so rigged. Never happens anymore. Never happen. No leftists ever want to pick a fight with me anymore. It's so interesting how that happens, because they're cowards, ultimately. And when you have weak ideas and you don't know how to debate or articulate your ideas beyond shouting people down and demanding that they are unable to speak, which is what you see from all of these leftists, this is what you get. This is what happens. But Clay, to say that he's guilty of. Look at the way they're creating these constructs that I shouldn't even say creating. They're propagating these constructs. They're not the ones who come up with this. You'll see this stuff online from leftists, Democrats, Biden, Kamala voters, Bernie Sanders, AOC fans. You'll see stuff like perpetrating social murder. So what they're saying is this guy, this father who never hurt anybody, this husband who, I mean, certainly never did violence against anybody that aware of who was a CEO of a massive health care company, he had a. He deserved. This is what they said deserved to be murdered in cold blood, shot in the back in this way, completely incapable of. No one could defend themselves from this. But I mean, there's just. If someone's going to come up behind in the street and shoot you for no reason, there's no one would be able to defend themselves. And he deserved it is what they say. And Luigi's a hero for this. Now, if you want to tell me, Buck, these are just two absolutely sad and really also demonic women who. Who probably have IQs around room temperature number. I would say, sure. But, Clay, this is widespread on the left. The left advances people as spokesmen these days for its cause. The New York Times does sit downs with idiots who say this kind of stuff and props them up as voices who are speaking on behalf of the Democrat praetorians, if you will, or the Democrat vanguard. So this is a big problem. The violence on the left thing is a very big problem because it's not fringe. It's just only some of them do it, but a lot of them support it. I'm gonna tell you this, it reminds me of radical Islam. For every suicide bomber, Clay, there were 10 Muslims who helped them and, you know, 100,000 or a million in the Middle east who loved it.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
Who wish there were more suicide bombers for everyone.
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Clay Travis
What I would just say is, to my knowledge, there's no functional equivalent of this on the right. When someone gets murdered, I don't see people showing up at trial saying, hey, this person deserved it.
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Protester/Left-wing Commentator
It.
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Clay Travis
Right. And if they did, they would overwhelmingly be condemned. This, I believe there is a direct line between this and the fact that, to your point, this is not necessarily an outlandish or outrageous or outlier perspective. Roughly 25% of left wingers believe that murder is acceptable. If people disagree with your political opinions, that's far higher than exists on the right. And I think it's directly connected to the assassination attempts on President Trump. Brett Kavanaugh, Steve Scalise. And when you refuse to condemn this, you create more people who dream of being heroes, like Luigi Mangione. We talked about this with the White House correspondents dinner shooting when I was there. That teacher from California, he thinks he's a hero. You read his manifesto. It wasn't irrational or outrageous in terms of what he argued relative to what the average left winger who does not like Trump argues. He just took the next step. If you believe Trump is Hitler, which is a crazy, obvious perspective, but if you believe that, then you should try to kill him. And all these people are doing is following through on the logic of the left. If you believe that an insurance company executive is the reason why thousands of people are dying, then the next logical step is I should kill him. When you celebrate it, you create a affirmation cycle which is going to lead to more of these, which is why, unfortunately, I think the Charlie Kirks of the world are Symptomatic of more violence to come. Not outliers which are going to stand in isolation. So I see all.
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Buck Sexton
Can I just give you one, one litmus test here? Think about this off the top here. Think about if I just asked any of you, hey, have any conservatives been attacked on college campus and been threatened with imminent violence and actually in some cases hit violently on a college campus in the last decade? You're already shouting out at people that come to mind right away. And of course, what happened to Charlie Kirk happened on a college campus. That's the first one that's going to come to mind for a lot of people. But I'm talking even just about people throwing things, you know, getting violent, thinking they can shut down the speech using like, you know, what is the kind of horn, the super loud, like is it a foghorn or. You know what I mean, the thing that they do to just disrupt speeches. All these just things they know, banging pots and pans, whatever it is. It's always leftists that do this. Yeah, you can get the most left wing maniac going to speak at any college campus in America. In fact, I would tell you this. If a leftist went to speak at Hillsdale College, they would probably question him aggressively, but they would do so politely and within the scope of the institution which is dedicated to learning and exchange of ideas. A leftist could go anywhere. Harvard, ucla, Duke, U of F, U of M, U of anything. No fear of being attacked. Any conservative goes on college campus. Clay, you know what? The first conversation has to be after the invite. What's the security situation going to be? There is a difference. This is not a both sides thing. There are some crazy people on the right. There are a hundred times as many on the left that. And I'm talking about people that are violent, crazy. That is reality. That is where we are as a country.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I think that's important. I can't remember the last time a speaker was shouted down by right wing disagreement on any college campus. But there's.
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Buck Sexton
I can't think of one ever.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Well, again, I think the Venezuela precedent is a good one for what we anticipate will likely happen in, in Cuba, they said basically Todd Blanche said either he's going to show up in Miami courtrooms or, or we have it play it quickly here.
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Buck Sexton
Good work.
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Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche
Men outside of this country all the time, and there's all kinds of different ways that we get them here. The reason why we indict somebody is because we want them here to face justice in front of a jury of their peers. How we go about doing that obviously depends on the circumstances in the case. And, and I'm not going to go beyond that. But, but we expect we didn't indict. This isn't a show indictment. This is indictment because we, we expect that there was a warrant issued for his arrest. So we expect that he will show up here by his own will or by another way.
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Clay Travis
And okay, block. I think it's fair to say Raul Castro is not showing up in a Miami courtroom on his own. He's not like, hey, you know, I need to go check out South Beach. I'll just chill. We're basically letting it be known we're going to go into Cuba and take out their leaders. Which is why I think the Maduro example is a good one. And the real question is, so far the Del C. Rodriguez relationship seems to be going well. Is there someone in Cuba that could allow democratic reforms and lead that country? And do we know who it might be? That's the question I think is looming as that indictment has been announced. And I know many people all over
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