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Clay Travis (0:00)
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human third hour play in book kicks off right now. And Debra Leah is with us now. She is a political commentator. You see her on Fox. You see her all over the place these days. She was actually just over in Israel. Can tell us a bit about that experience. But we're going to look Deborah, ahead a bit with you as well into this weekend, a looming deadline, Iran. Tell us what you know, what you see coming and how concerned should people be about all this.
Deborah Leah (0:32)
I would just like to state on the record I am not Mossad before anybody makes any accusations for the information about to put forward. But it's great to join you guys. This has been something that in Israel every single weekend they've been preparing. I was there for about two and a half weeks in the end of January till February. And at that point we really thought it was going to happen. It cooled off and now the time has come. They have evacuated non emergency personnel from the embassy in Jerusalem. And and the last time that President Trump did this earlier in June, it was exactly seven days later that the US Joined the fight to strike Iran's nuclear facilities. And so I think that this is going to be no different. We've seen this is a very interesting international politics moment for the world and I think it's going to change international politics going forward. If President Trump doesn't act and he has been threatened, the members of parliament have threatened to send him in a casket and celebrate him being in a casket. And so more than just nuclear weapons or nuclear facilities, this is really in terms of American sovereignty, will we allow these Islamic countries to threaten the president and not do anything in return? I personally don't think that we can allow that to continue. And I think that President Trump is on the same mindset here. And so the deadline ends on Monday and I do think that we will indefinitely or definitely see a strike before then.
Buck Sexton (1:51)
Okay, Deborah, thanks for coming on. Where does this lead Buck and I were talking about in the last hour. One of the big challenges is how extensive are the attacks? How much do they actually target Iran's rulers? To what extent is the debate now about the potential power vacuum? Who would take over? What could happen? Where does this go? What is the goal beyond potentially ending the nuclear ambition of Iran? Does it extend into regime change?
Deborah Leah (2:21)
Yeah, absolutely. This has been something that all of us have been wondering and I think this is definitely the reason that the strikes have been delayed. We heard weeks ago Trump said help was on the way. And then obviously we went into negotiations and the problem that exists for President Trump and international politics at large is that you cannot bomb your way through regime change. We've seen this time and time again. America is kind of notorious for failed regime change. And so when it comes to Iran, after 47 years of oppression, it's very unlikely that there's the highest level of individuals needed to actually overthrow the government. There's over 800,000 Iranians who are part of the Islamic regime, who just live among civilians. So, looking forward, what we think is the most likely outcome, or what I think is most likely outcome is pressure. I don't think that Trump is going to take out the ayatollah, and if he did, there are four people for every single leader of the Islamic regime. There are four people waiting to take their place that Khamenei has already lined up. So what I think is a likely outcome here is not a good one for America, for Israel, or for anyone. I don't think that this is going to be a quick one strike and we're done situation. I think that this would go on longer than the war in the summertime. And I don't think regime change is possible at this point in time. So as an American, as a strong, proud Jew, I hope President Trump strikes to send a message to. But with these strikes, I don't see any evidence that the Iranian people themselves are capable of over overthrowing the regime.
