Hour 3 - Kamala, Are You Serious?

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode Hour 3 – “Kamala, Are You Serious?”
Date: October 31, 2025

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Overview

In this episode, Buck Sexton holds down the fort solo as Clay Travis is stranded at a Chicago airport due to the government shutdown, which provides a springboard for opening commentary. The main theme is a critical dissection of Kamala Harris’s recent media tour and book, focusing on her handling of the post-Biden campaign, her explanations for the Democrats’ defeat, and her broader political credibility. Buck also welcomes Miranda Devine for a detailed conversation on the shutdown’s fallout, Democratic Party dynamics, international tensions, and insights from her interview with Vice President JD Vance. The hour blends political critique, election post-mortem, and some lighter cultural notes.

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Main Discussion: Kamala Harris’s Book Tour & Democratic Fallout

Kamala’s Credibility Crisis

• Buck opens by ridiculing Kamala Harris’s ongoing book tour, charging her with self-pity, lack of leadership, and complicity in misleading the public about Biden’s cognitive abilities.
• Biden’s competence: Buck reacts sharply to Kamala’s interview with Jon Stewart, in which she claims, “I believe [Biden] was fully competent to serve” ([06:17]), calling the rationale “moronic” and “insulting to the intelligence of everybody watching” ([07:15]).
• Buck pokes at the absurdity of differentiating between Biden’s campaign stamina and his governing stamina:

  “We’re to believe that his cognitive ability…wasn’t strong enough to take the campaign as the nominee from June to November, but they were strong enough for him to be president?... Kamala, who’s an absurd person… Jon Stewart, the Tough Case. Yeah, please. It’s idiotic.” ([07:15])

Kamala’s Explanations for Losing

• Jon Stewart asks Harris why she lost; Harris replies, “I do believe one of the biggest factors that was at play in the 107 days, we just didn’t have enough time” ([11:08]).
• Stewart challenges that premise: “Or was it too much time?...If you had done the election after 60 days, I think you win. Honestly…” ([11:14])
• Harris shuffles through answers, citing “an infusion of resources going into mis and disinformation… the Elon Musk factor in the book… There were certain inflection points…” ([11:32])
• Buck’s scathing reply: “Misinformation and disinformation. She’s really going to pull that one now. Oh, it’s because of misinformation and disinformation. That’s why she lost… She takes no accountability for it.” ([12:19])
• He frames Harris as perpetually shifting blame: “It’s always someone else’s fault. It’s always things outside her control. It. It’s sexism or racism or Trumpism or disinformation or misinformation…” ([13:27])

Diversity Politics & Accountability

• Buck contends the election is a repudiation of affirmative action politics:

  “You were able to ride a wave of DEI in the Democrat Party… elevated superficial characteristics like gender and skin color… The American people have decided that we’ve had enough of that and that we should just judge people by who they are…” ([13:27])

• He accuses Harris of viewing herself as a victim despite her political privilege and opportunities.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Buck, on Harris’s campaign defense:

  “Kamala’s out there trying to say, oh, the problem wasn’t Joe Biden’s ability to think. It was. He needed more nap time to get through the campaign. You know, it’s just not going to work. We’re not all that dumb.” ([08:37])

• On Kamala’s blame game:

  “Have you heard her say anything like, you know, I made a mistake? I read her book, by the way, which was written for her by other people. Have you heard her say that I made a huge error about anything?” ([13:26])

• Buck on Kamala Harris’s emotional outburst regarding Trump:
  Harris: “Are you kidding me? This guy wants to create a ballroom for his rich friends while completely turning a blind eye to the fact that babies are going to starve when the SNAP benefits end in just hours from now. Come on.” ([21:45])
  Buck’s retort:

  “First of all, it’s your Democrat colleagues that have made the Snap program run out of money... She’s not a smart person, she’s not a good person, she’s not an impressive person. All elevated up… because of DEI all the way.” ([22:09])

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[25:31] – Interview: Miranda Devine on Shutdown Chaos and Democratic Dysfunction

Flight Nightmares & Government Shutdown

• Miranda shares airline chaos anecdotes as tangible evidence of the shutdown’s impact, relating widespread industry and union frustration and suggesting the Democrats are leveraging chaos as a political weapon:

  “They remain implacable because… they feel like chaos and disruption is a good thing because it hurts the government. It stops the Trump administration from being able to continue… unwinding all the other toxic policies of the Biden administration.” ([27:10])

• She predicts blame will pivot to Trump, regardless of reality.

Democratic Infighting and Voter Backlash

• Miranda notes a “revolution inside the Democrat Party” as younger voters rebel against the old guard, making the situation “volatile.”
• Discussion of grocery stores hiring security in preparation for food stamp interruptions paints a grim near-term outlook.

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[29:55] – Foreign Policy: Venezuela and Ukraine

Venezuela Tensions

• Buck asks Miranda about reports of US military activity targeting Venezuela; she voices concern about possible mission creep or regime change, noting:

  “Are we being told the whole truth?... Is it some sort of soft beginning of a regime change in Venezuela? If that’s the case, we should be told about it up front.” ([30:28])

Ukraine & JD Vance's Perspective

• From her interview with JD Vance, Miranda shares Vance’s belief that relations with Zelensky have “reset,” and he’s “a little more optimistic” about peace prospects.
• Vance’s faith in Trump’s “peace through strength” philosophy is underscored, and his transition from a “never Trumper” to an ally is highlighted.

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[33:19] – Personas: JD Vance, Trump, and Uplifting Moments

Aliens & Spirituality

• Miranda plays a clip from Vance on UFOs and spiritual belief:

  Vance: “If another person sees an alien, maybe I see an angel or a demon. I’m a big believer that there are, like, spiritual forces working on the physical world that a lot of us don’t see and a lot of us don’t understand…” ([33:45])

• Buck jokes about Miranda siding with Clay on the possibility of alien life, with Miranda encouraging humility and openness.

Trump’s Work Ethic & Human Side

• Devine describes, via JD Vance, Trump as a “very good heart,” presidential hosting stories, kindness to children, and “prodigious work ethic.”

  “President Trump just loved it… he was so kind to them [the kids] and treated them… like little human beings. And that he’s very grandfatherly and he’s great with kids.” ([36:27])

• Trump’s stamina is highlighted: “On these long trips… President Trump didn’t sleep, and everyone else was, like, going to sleep… he’d prod various members of his cabinet who might be dozing as if they’re weak and low energy, you know, because they sleep.” ([37:24])

Dogs as Metaphor for Leadership

• JD Vance’s well-trained German shepherd, Atlas, is contrasted with the Biden family’s notorious canines; Buck suggests a household’s management of its dog reflects personal character.

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[44:00] – Wrap-Up and Community Touches

• Buck closes with light-hearted talkbacks, ending the show with friendly banter about Reese’s peanut butter cups and birthday wishes for his mom.
• He promises Clay will return on Monday and thanks the audience for a lively week.

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Section Timeline (Timestamps)

| Segment | Timestamps | |--------------------------------------------------------------|-------------| | Buck’s Kamala/Biden critique | 02:57–13:27 | | Kamala’s book tour/Stewart interview (clips & analysis) | 06:17–13:27 | | Kamala on Trump, SNAP, and the ballroom “scandal” | 21:45–22:09 | | Miranda Devine interview (shutdown, Dem turmoil, Venezuela) | 25:31–33:19 | | JD Vance on UFOs, Trump, and leadership | 33:19–39:36 | | Buck & Miranda on dogs, character, and sign-offs | 39:36–40:06 | | Listener “talkbacks” and show wrap | 44:13–end |

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Tone & Style

• Tone: Mocking, skeptical, occasionally exasperated, with flashes of humor and camaraderie. The show features Buck’s direct, caustic style and Miranda Devine’s clear reporting and anecdotal warmth in the interview segment.
• Language: Conversational, punchy, and opinionated.

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Summary Takeaways

• Buck asserts Kamala Harris’s explanations for the Democrats’ election loss are evasive, blaming misinformation and externalities instead of acknowledging failures in vision or leadership.
• He sees the election as a rebuke of Democratic identity politics and a call for merit-based evaluation.
• Miranda Devine contextualizes the government shutdown as both tactical chaos by Democrats and a real-life hardship for ordinary Americans, with graver implications on the horizon.
• Foreign policy flashpoints (Venezuela, Ukraine) expose murky administration strategies, with an emphasis on Trump’s “peace through strength” approach.
• JD Vance is presented as thoughtful and multidimensional—a Marine, a convert to Trumpism, and a man of faith.
• The interplay between personal character (as revealed by “dog management” and family anecdotes) and public leadership is a recurring motif.

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Memorable Quote:

“You were able to ride a wave of DEI in the Democrat Party…elevated superficial characteristics like gender and skin color…The American people have decided that we’ve had enough of that and that we should just judge people by who they are…” — Buck Sexton ([13:27])

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For listeners seeking a sharp, unapologetically critical breakdown of post-election Democratic politics, Kamala Harris’s public persona, and a snapshot of the current U.S. political drama, this episode delivers lively commentary, media critique, and insider reportage.

Transcript

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Buck kicks off now. Last hour before we send you off for a wonderful weekend. You just heard from our man Clay stuck in a situation at the Chicago airport because of the shutdown. And I am sure you know, whenever you're in a messy airport situation and they're not telling you exactly what it is, that's bad sign, right? Bad enough when they're like, well, we've got some weather coming in. Whatever it is, when you're just being told, yeah, we don't know, man, you might have to camp out here. Maybe time to get that sleeping pad and unroll it, you know, maybe time to take your sweatshirt, make it into a pillow and lie on the ground. Don't worry, Chick Fil A will open at some point. You know that that's, that's where things are because of the government shutdown. The air traffic controllers are very annoyed about this situation, as they well should be. But I want to take you on a, on a journey of sorts into what may be the most self defeating and self pitying book tour of all time. Certainly high on the list and no, it is not. In fact, Karine Jean Pierre, Kari Jean Pierre, I think we all get what's going on with that one, with that situation of the book tour. She's an independent. Now you were the press secretary for Joe Biden. Now you're independent. You've left the Democrat, you've left the Democrat party because they finally couldn't prop up your boss anymore, whom you, Corinne Jean Pierre, were lying to the American people about. You, Kring Jean Pierre, who said that it was a cheap fake when people shared video of the president having cognitive issues, cognitive breakdown. You, Karine Jean Pierre now would have lecture us about how the Democrat party abandoned him, were they not supposed to? What exactly did she want them to do? She doesn't even know. She doesn't know. Makes no sense. But Kamala Harris, she's not just hoping to cash out on a pretty weak book tour and do the speaking circuit for a bit and then get some gig at msnbc. No, Kamala Harris does think that she should have a leadership role in the Democrat Party and a leadership role for the country. Kamala Harris wants to be, make no mistake, wants to be president of these United States. But she's got a problem. She's Kamala Harris, same person that we saw in this last election. It's not that we didn't know what we were dealing with. It's not that the American people weren't aware of Kamala Harris. It is, in fact, that she has tremendous deficiencies. And here is Jon Stewart, propagandist of the left. Jon Stewart, as he is talking to Campbell. This is cut four about whether Biden was competent to serve or not. Listen to this exchange, part of the book tour play for I believe he.

[Podcast Host]

Was fully competent to serve.

[Jon Stewart]

Do you really?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I do.

[Jon Stewart]

That surprises me, actually.

[Podcast Host]

No, I do. But there's a distinction to be made between running for president and being president.

[Jon Stewart]

What's the distinction?

[Podcast Host]

Well, being a candidate for president of the United States is about being in a marathon at a sprinter's pace, having tomatoes thrown at you every step you take.

[Jon Stewart]

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It's more than a notion.

[Jon Stewart]

Get involved in public service, ladies and.

[Podcast Host]

Gentlemen, and to be the seated president, the sitting president, while doing that. It's a lot.

[Jon Stewart]

Yeah, it's. I think it's a hard case to make for people that he didn't have the stamina to run, but he had the stamina to govern. Because I think most people view the presidency as a marathon run at a sprint with tomatoes being thrown at you. In terms of governance, Jon Stewart, way too gentle.

[Buck Sexton]

He's a propagandist. Way too gentle with Kamala. This is moronic. I mean, this is just insulting to the intelligence of everybody's watching. Oh, Joe Biden. It's okay for him to be commander in chief. It's okay for him to be the one who would be responding to a possible attack on the United States, an act of war, making decisions that affect hundreds of millions of Americans and billions of people around the world. That's. He had plenty of. Plenty of gas in the tank for that. But to show up, remember, he's being ferried by Air Force One. I mean, to show up to give some speeches. He took it all the way to June, my friends. So we're to believe that his cognitive ability, his mental faculties weren't strong enough to take the campaign as the nominee from June to November, but they were strong enough for him to be president. President in June and therefore in 2020. 2025 as well, because. Right. What. What would be the. The only thing that he wasn't able to do, according to Kamala, who's an absurd person. Absurd. JON stewart, the Tough Case. Yeah, please. It's a. It's idiotic. John, and you know it. Where is the difference? He's president in June of 24. He's fine to do that. He's going to be fine then to be president in January of 25. But it's the whole campaigning thing in between that he can't handle. That was the part of it that he wasn't up for. And let me remind you, that's an energy issue, not a cognition issue. What we saw at the debate with Joe Biden and Donald Trump was somebody who has some stage or some level of dementia, which means that his brain is not functioning, his decision making is not functioning as it should, which we also know because he had outsourced his presidency to the advisers around him. All of this adds up. But Kamala's out there trying to say, oh, the problem wasn't Joe Biden's ability to think. It was. He needed more nap time to get through the campaign. You know, it's just not going to work. We're not all that dumb. We know what they did. We know the big lies they all told. And they're trying to. In some way, they're trying to push away that humiliation, that stink of being so utterly mendacious. But this is what happened. They lied to the American people about it. And one of the big problems they have is the person who should be best positioned to take back leadership for the Democrats, the former vice president, the former nominee, Kamala Harris, is completely tainted by her relationship to the lie about Joe Biden. And then we get to. Well, also Kamala, why is it that the American people, I mean, you lost every swing state to Trump. People know who you are. You're the vice president. Why weren't you able to do it? Jon Stewart continuing on. Like I said, he's being as friendly and gentle to Kamala as he can be, but he doesn't want to just look like a total clown buffoon himself. Here he is. This is cut six. Why'd you lose Kamala? Here's her explanation. Listen to it.

[Podcast Host]

I do believe one of the biggest factors that was at play in the 107 days, we just didn't have enough time. We didn't have enough time.

[Jon Stewart]

Or was it too much time? I mean, I. If you had done the election after 60 days, I think you win. Honestly, there was a. There seemed like a stagnation point. And then if you look at the lines, it doesn't look like what would have changed.

[Podcast Host]

Well, yeah, but there's so many variables that went into the outcome of that race because you can Also look at where you start to see an infusion of resources going into mis and disinformation. I talk about, for example, the Elon Musk factor in the book. You can look at that. There were certain inflection points that had an impact on the race. And to your point, it was, as David Plouff said, it was those traditional inflection points and there were others. So I don't want to reduce what we need to do going forward to any one factor around what we could have done better, what I could have done BETHETTER in those 107 days, what was happening before. I think there are a multitude of factors that all need to be addressed.

[Buck Sexton]

Misinformation and disinformation. She's really going to go there. She's going to do. She's going to pull that one now. Oh, it's because of the misinformation and the disinformation. That's why she lost and she didn't lose by a little bit. I understand the aggregate vote total, you can say, but that's not the election that's run. It's the Electoral College. And she lost every possible swing state entirely to Donald Trump, everyone. He was indicted four times by these sham, deep state loser prosecutors. He survived a bullet through his ear, Another assassination attempt, the entirety of the legacy media throwing all of their credibility in one giant bonfire in an effort to stop Trump. And she got absolutely crushed by him in this election. And she takes, you'll notice, no accountability for it. Have you heard her say anything like, you know, I made a mistake? I read her book, by the way, which was written for her by other people. Have you heard her say that I made a huge error about anything?

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No.

[Buck Sexton]

Did she learn anything from this process? No. It's always someone else's fault. It's always things outside her control. It. It's sexism or racism or Trumpism or disinformation or misinformation or what about Kamala? You're just not very good at this. And you were able to ride a wave of DEI in the Democrat Party that was willing to push people to the very heights of power based upon elevated superficial characteristics like gender and skin color or ethnicity. And that the American people have decided that we've had enough of that and that we should all, we should just judge people by who they are, man or woman, any race. What are your capabilities? What's your skill set? What do you bring to the table? Bringing diversity to the table is not meaningful to people who care about those other things. This is the big change. And this is the world that Kamala does not want to be operating in, I might add, one in which you are held accountable and responsible for what you do as a person. Your decisions, your abilities, your work ethic. Kamala wants to whine about how she's a victim. She's the former Vice President of the United States was handed handed the Democrat nomination, which a lot of Democrats didn't want to do, and now she complains about it. And everybody else. I read her book. Everybody else makes mistakes. Everybody else did the dumb things. She doesn't say, never mind, I'm sorry. She doesn't say I'll do better next time in any meaningful way or I'll change. Remember what she said about Biden? Would you change anything about Biden? No, because she just thinks she's supposed to win for showing up. The people in charge are supposed to tell her how great she is and that she now has all this power. And this election with Donald Trump, where he crushed her, is a repudiation of the world that she had been living in before, at least in her own mind and certainly in the state of California where she just gets to show up and that's enough. She doesn't have to be impressive, she doesn't have to be good. She just has to be there. Well turned out. Not this time. And I don't think it's going to happen next time either. Gold is as valuable as it's ever been. Whether you're keeping track of the scoreboard of this on or not, guess what? It's grown about 50% in value. Gold is a smart long term investment. Look at this over the recent years, in recent decades, Gold's long term thesis remains sound. A lot of reasons why. If you're thinking about buying gold for the first time, it's an excellent time to do so. Birch Gold Group makes you this offer. Buy gold from them this month and get free silver for every $5,000 from Birch Gold that you buy in advance of Veterans Day they'll send you a free patriotic silver round that includes the American and Gadsden flags on it. Birch Gold can help you own gold as well by converting an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA in physical gold. Plus they'll send you free silver honoring our veterans on qualifying purchases. And if you're current or former military, Birchgold has a special offer for you. They're waiving custodial fees for the first year on investments of any amount. Text my name Buck to 9,898 98 for Birch Gold's free info kit and claim your eligibility for free Silver with qualifying purchase before the end of the month or before the end of before Veterans Day rather. Text my name Buck to 989898 Text Buck to 989898 Today sometimes all you can do is laugh and they do.

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Start your 7 day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox One for complete terms and conditions. Fox One we live for live streaming now. Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We are gonna get to some of your calls and also some of your talkbacks but want to tell you that we're gonna have Miranda Devine with us shortly here to talk about her interview with JD Vance and just everything else that's going on. Randavine, always a really worthwhile and fun conversation, has a cool voice too. Good voice for radio, so. And accent, I will say. So we'll be discussing with her all the things that are happening in the world here shortly. Just want to add Kamala Harris is also out there. On the one hand, she's trying to say things that, that are supposed to clean up the fact that she was a part of the Biden cover up. There was a cover up and she was the really the principal architect of it in some ways. OK, maybe Dr. Jill Biden, but really I think Kamala, the vice president, if anyone's going to have to go out and tell everyone, hey, look, we need to, we need a 25th amendment. This guy gotta be the vice president, right? Shouldn't she have had those conversations? Didn't remember they had those conversations about Trump in the media all the time. Trump who was fine. Nonetheless, Kamala also wants you to know that she's, she's fired up. She can be a little salty sometimes. Here she is on the Trump ballroom issue. Play cut 5.

[Podcast Host]

Are you kidding me? This guy wants to create a ballroom for his rich friends while completely turning a blind eye to the fact that babies are going to starve when the SNAP benefits end in just hours from now. Come on. So what? I'm not going to be distracted by, oh, does the guy have a big hammer? What about those babies?

[Buck Sexton]

What about those babies? First of all, it's your Democrat colleagues that have made the Snap program run out of money. They did this Part one, part two. Think about what she Just did there, you know, I mean, if I showed you a photo of Donald Trump eating a cheeseburger, she gonna be like, oh, there's Trump eating a cheeseburger. What about all the babies who are starving because they don't have their parents aren't giving them food because their food stamps have run out for a day? Not even, hasn't even happened yet. What does one thing have to do with has one has nothing to do with the other. She's not a smart person, she's not a good person, she's not an impressive person. All elevated up. I'm just gonna say it elevated up cause of DEI all the way and for some other things I'm not even gonna get into but San Francisco. You know how she got her political start. Just a fact, just a fact. I'm not being, you know how it happened. Married guy, mayor, you know, the whole thing. What is the, what is the basis for thinking that Kamala Harris should be in charge of anyone's anything given any power whatsoever? Also, why go you're going to book tour, you're going to start cursing. All of us can curse. Why are you doing this? It's public. It's meant to be heard by people. You're going to start dropping f bombs here and there about Trump. Even the Washington Post thinks the ballroom is a good idea, you imbecile. Because it is. And it's not even being paid for by taxpayers. Anyway. Look, if fall's the prettiest season of the year, I think it is in a lot of parts of this country. It's also unfortunately the messiest. If you have big trees and lots of leaves in your yard, how do you keep all those leaves from clogging your rain gutters? You get connected with Leaffilter, the company that has a ready made solution to keep you off your ladder. Leaffilter is America's number one gutter protection company. Right now you can get a free inspection, free estimate and save up to 30 off your entire purchase at Leaffilter's website. Leaffilter.com Buck protect your home from flooding, roof damage and rotting siding and foundation issues. Sure, there may be cheaper upfront solutions, but Leaffilter solution starts with their installation and includes their lifetime no clogs guarantee. Go online now to schedule your first free gutter inspection and no obligation estimate. Over a million homeowners have trusted leaffilter. Go to leaffilter.com buck that's L E A F filter.com buck get that free estimate, free inspection and 30 off leefilter.com buck see representative for warranty details. Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Our friend Miranda Devine joins us now. She's the host Pod Force One and she just sat down with our phenomenal vice president Mr. J.D. vance to talk about a whole range of things. But first, Miranda, Clay is unfortunately stuck in transit. He was at our, our boss and mentor's induction into the Radio hall of Fame in Chicago and I got a pass because I'm on babysitting duty here for my little one. But he had our proxy there and he was celebrating and now he's trying to get home. It is a mess. I think Nashville just said that they basically don't have enough air traffic controllers for the airport to be functioning. Like what's gonna happen?

[Miranda Devine]

I mean it's horrendous. I don't think people have fully grasped how terrible it is. And I have a friend, Newark was shut down last night and I have a friend who we were doing something last night. She had to fly out of Newark to Palm beach for her mother's birthday party and all flights were cancell. She ended up getting a train to New Haven and then getting one of those cheap flights from there finally to Palm Beach. She got there at 9:30 this morning. So it was, you know, just a 12 hour ordeal. And it sounds like Clay is going through the same thing. I fly to Palm beach on Sunday to interview somebody there. It's, I mean I feel like, I know the airlines have to do it to keep things safe, but when you have TSA as well, it's not just the flight air traffic controllers. I have another friend whose family was coming in from England on the weekend. They ended up having to sit on the plane after that long trip for an hour on the tarmac because the customs hall was full. It took them, ended up taking them three hours to get through customs.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I bring this up one because it's just, I think everyone can commiserate with travel nightmare stories. But also this is in the past something that has actually brought really intense pressure onto government shutdown situations. I mean is this, do you think this could, could get the Democrats to, to snap out of it sooner than anticipated or do they have some kind of a game plan they're still running?

[Miranda Devine]

Well, it ought to. We've had all the leaders of the airlines have come out and said, you know, without saying, well it's dangerous. Just saying this is affecting the economy, this is hurting people. We've got the snap benefits ending tomorrow. You know, we have, the unions have come out. And they have also pressured the Democrats to end this thing. And they just remain implacable because for them, they're, they're just, it's, they're losing everything. They don't have anything really to lose, I guess, because they're so. They've already lost everything. And they feel like chaos and disruption is a good thing because it hurts the government. It stops the Trump administration from being able to continue on with what they're doing, whether it's deporting illegal migrants or fixing the economy or doing any of the things unwinding all the other toxic policies of the Biden administration. It just puts a spoke in their wheels, and it also creates anger among their voters who they can, you know, already have Trump derangement and are willing to believe the worst. They just lie and gaslight and tell them, oh, yeah, it's, you know, Donald Trump's fault. And so when the SNAP money runs out tomorrow and the food stamps run out tomorrow, a lot of grocery stores have put security guards around their stores to try and prevent people from coming and just taking the stuff. It's really setting up a really nasty situation. Very volatile. And ultimately, even though the polls are moving against the Democrats, I feel like things are coming to a head and that Trump eventually will be blamed. He said today when he gave a little gaggle that he, that, that he's willing to sit down and negotiate with the Democrats, but they have to open up the country first. They have to end the shutdown. And he said, normally they would have, but they're now crazy. And I agree with that. I think Chuck Schumer has gone mad. He's so petrified about the insurgent left on his side of the party, especially in New York, where Zoram Mandani is looking like he's going to romp at home. They're all scared. The resident Democrat kind of old guard who stuffed everything up until now. And of course, you're going to have young people, young Democrat voters, who are rightly angry about the mess the Democrats have made of everything. So they've taken things into their own hand. It's like a revolution inside the Democrat Party. But unfortunately, we're all suffering.

[Buck Sexton]

Miranda, I also wanted to ask you, just because you have excellent sources in this administration, you just sat down with JD Vance for your podcast, Pod Force One. Everyone should go check out that episode, this reporting about strikes inside of Venezuela. What kind of credibility do you put on it? What's your sense as to how imminent that may be? There's definitely a lot of military resources in the Caribbean now, which is not usually where we think of a major military presence from the US Side.

[Miranda Devine]

Yeah, look, I don't have any inside gossip on that. I'm. I'm a little cautious and a little concerned because, you know, are we being told the whole truth? You know, is this really just about stopping drugs from coming into the country, or is it some sort of soft beginning of a regime change in Venezuela? If that's the case, we should be told about it up front. And, you know, Donald Trump's got a lot on his plate. He's just come back from Asia. I suppose he'll be focusing on this again. But Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, is running that operation along with Pete Hegseth. When they're blowing, you know, boats and submarines out of the water, I mean, that's all great if they're all drug dealers, but what are we doing now? Is it really about stopping the cartels or is there something else? If there's something else, great. You know, I'm all for it if it's surgical and contained. But I think we need to be told a little more than we are now because it does sort of raise a lot of red flags.

[Buck Sexton]

Now, in your interview with JD One thing that I know you talked about was the very widely watched and discussed Oval Office. Zelensky, Trump, JD Verbal, Melee, Donnybrook, however, wants to say it. What did you learn from talking to JD about that? And how do you think this administration is seeing the Russia, Ukraine issue currently?

[Miranda Devine]

Yeah, well, he was sort of at pains to talk about the fact that that's in the past. You said that he sitting there, he felt that Zelensky had been rude to President Trump. And he felt that, you know, he wanted to make the point that if any world leader comes to the Oval Office, they owe the president of the United States an enormous amount of respect. And he didn't feel that that was happening, but he thinks that the relationship has been reset and that while if you asked him a couple of months ago did he think that the prospect of peace was possible, he said he would have said, no, they're just going to keep fighting. It's going to be their Vietnam. And now he's a little more optimistic. He thinks that there is a possibility that they can work it through. And, you know, Russia's intransigence, he said, yep. I mean, that. That is certainly the case now. It's really one minute you think you've got one side on the right page, the next minute you think You've got the other one. You. It's messy, it's a to and fro. But he's got faith that President Trump is going to pull it off, ultimately.

[Buck Sexton]

Speaking of Miranda Devine, host of Pod Force One, she just interviewed JD Vance. Go check out her episode of that one wherever you listen to your podcasts. And, Miranda, something else that came up. We actually have a cut from your interview. And here is. This is on. It's something that Clay and I see very differently. Let's put that out there, which is UFOs. Here is JD when you asked him about this play. 27.

[Miranda Devine]

Tulsi Gabbard says that she believes there are aliens.

[JD Vance]

Do you believe that? You know, I don't. It's interesting. I wouldn't say that I do or don't believe it. I mean, I'm a big believer that there are things out there that we can't explain. And so if another person sees an alien, maybe I see an angel or a demon. So I'm a big believer that there are, like, spiritual forces working on the physical world that a lot of us don't see and a lot of us don't understand and a lot of us don't appreciate. But, you know, is it aliens or is it our guardian angel, or is it aliens, or is it a not so guardian force that doesn't care about us or, in fact, actively wishes us harm? I don't know the answer to that question.

[Buck Sexton]

Interesting, because I had people writing in that. They said, well, what? You should play that for us. But, Miranda, this is a great opportunity. Clay's not here to defend himself. I think that there are no aliens and that this UFO stuff is all overblown nonsense. So you just agree with me, right? What do you think?

[Miranda Devine]

No, I don't really. I have an open mind about it. I think my feeling is just that it would be arrogant. It would be arrogant to think that we're the only intelligent life forms in the universe.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, you're with Clay on the. Oh, my God. Clay's not even here and she's taking his side. This is so sad.

[Miranda Devine]

And look, I grew up reading science fiction avidly, so I love all of that, but I thought it was interesting. And he sort of did an intellectual pivot from the UFOs to the spiritual realm. And I'm totally with him on that. You know, that there are things that we cannot explain. Again, it's about humility and not being arrogant. We can't explain certain things, phenomena in the world around us. And so I I do believe that there is, you know, whether it's guardian angels or demons or whatever it is, I don't think that we can just assume that everything is just what we see in front of us. And so I thought it was interesting and that it went to the heart of his faith, his Catholic faith. He's a convert, and he talked about going to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem last week when he was visiting there. And just it was so moving for him emotionally and spiritually, that he said he wept. And so I thought that was a, you know, a nice side of him to see.

[Buck Sexton]

Tell me about the relationship that you got into this with JD the relationship between Trump and the president. President Trump.

[Miranda Devine]

Yeah, that was interesting. He's very respectful of him. And he also said that he, you know, because he had been a never Trumper early on, and he's changed his mind. He said, in part, he changed because he realized that President Trump was not an interventionist, was not a regime change guy, was against war. JD Served in Iraq, is very against war, but he likes the peace through strength philosophy that President Trump has. And he talked about how I said, what have you learned about President Trump that's new and that people might not know? And he said, well, he's got a very good heart. And he described how they just had him for dinner, him and the first lady for dinner at the Vice President's residence, the Naval Observatory, and how they kept the kids upstairs. They've got three little kids with the babysitter because they didn't want them jumping all over the president. And the president wanted to see them, so. And the kids wanted to see him. So they came down and, you know, like JD Says, like, they're little kids, they're uncontrollable. They're running around and. And he said, president Trump just loved it. You know, they were. He was so kind to them and treated them, you know, like little human beings. And that he's very grandfatherly and he's great with kids. And so that was interesting. And also just what we've all observed is his prodigious work ethic. The fact that Carolyn Levitt told me this as well, that on these long trips that he does on Air Force One, like when he did that whirlwind Jerusalem, Egypt, trip to the peace deal, it was 30 hours in the air there and back, and President Trump didn't sleep, and everyone else was, like, going to sleep. And JD Says, come up and sort of prod various members of his cabinet who might Be dozing as if they're weak and low energy, you know, because they sleep. And he. He doesn't. And, and Carolyn told me, like, he goes, and it's 1am and he decided he was going to do a press gaggle. And she's like, oh, okay, I have to go and wake them all up. That was quite. And the other.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, no, he's. You go ahead.

[Miranda Devine]

No, the other interesting thing was I met JD's beautiful dog, a German shepherd called Atlas, and just sort of an adolescent, about 18 months and very fit, but also incredibly well disciplined, well trained by him. And so I sort of made a quip about the Secret Service agents who probably have PTSD from Joe Biden's absolutely feral German shepherds, Commander and Major, who were attacking the agents left front center, drawing blood, biting them, tearing their clothes. And. And JD said yes, and laughed and said, yeah, well, a few of the agents have actually expressed gratitude to him that his dog, by contrast, is so well behaved. And, and he is. And I think it says a lot about, you know, you can tell, like, German.

[Buck Sexton]

Huge. It's a huge indicator. Miranda, I, you know, I'm a big dog person. We have a dog here. I grew up with dogs. You give me some time with someone's dog. I know a lot about the household. I know about, you know, whether there's a lot of anxiety. I know about whether there's structure. I know about whether people are kind. I mean, the dog tells you a lot about a household. So that's very interesting about JD's German Shepherd. Go check out Pod Force One. Miranda Devine, always excellent. Have a fantastic weekend.

[Miranda Devine]

Thanks so much, Buck. And hope Clay gets back quickly.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, me too. I'm not, I'm. I'm not betting on it. I'm hoping, though, that he managed to get through. Thank you. Look, I'm doing something really exciting. Before we wrap up today. I want to tell you about it. Money and Power. I want you to subscribe to this newsletter and this newsletter brings together my knowledge of politics with a team of researchers on the markets and on stocks. And this is designed to help ordinary people capitalize on a huge wealth explosion that I'm calling Manhattan Project 2. It's really straightforward. You go, you watch this presentation if you want, or you can just sign up straight away. Subscribe to this. Totally separate from this show. This is a separate project, a separate thing. Subscribe to Money and Power. And it's really easy. You just go to insider2025.com insider2025.com. You'll get this delivered right into your inbox. It's got great ideas. We have a model portfolio. That portfolio, you can see it is published. It is public. See how those picks have done. It is a really, really good opportunity. Go check out insider2025.com right now you'll save 82% off insider2025.com paid for by Paradigm Press. Keep up with the biggest political comeback.

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