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Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
Third hour of play and buck kicks off now. We have updates just happening moments ago from the White House about the situation in Minneapolis and other Trump administration on a whole range of issues. We will get into that, my friends. And you know what, actually, Clay, let's, let's just dive into some of this because the more we, we look at this, the more clear it is that this is the issue. This is the single most important fight right now in the country. And we mentioned that Tom Holman, who is the number two essentially on immigration enforcement issues, he's kind of, he's the czar, I think. I mean, I forget what his official government title is, but he's. The implementations are for deportations. Kristi Noem sits atop the Department of Homeland Security, which is a massive umbrella agency, as you all know, with a lot of sub agencies. I can't even name all the sub agencies underneath it at this point. There's been some things moved around, but a reporter asked the press secretary, Caroline Levitt, about Holman, Tom Holman being sent to Minneapolis and what the situation is. Want to give you the latest. This was just moments ago. 37. Play it. With regards to the deployment of Tom Homan to Minneapolis, should the deployment of Mr. Homan to Minneapolis be seen as a sign that the president is dissatisfied with how the officials on the ground had handled the incident? No.
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Caroline Levitt
Mr. Homan is doing an exceptional job and he has been working with Secretary Noem and President Trump over the course of the last year. Secretary Secretary Noem still has the utmost confidence and trust of the President of the United States. And she's continuing to oversee the entire Department of Homeland Security and all of the immigration enforcement that's taking place across the whole entire country. Of course, Secretary Noem is also in charge of fema, and we are in the wake of a brutal winter storm where hundreds of thousands of Americans have been impacted by that. So Secretary Borders R. Homan is in a unique position to drop everything and go to Minnesota to continue having these productive conversations with state and local officials. And I know that he's catching a plane in just a few hours to do just that at the, at the request of the President.
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Buck Sexton
Clay Tom Holman is a border guy's Border guy. He understands this issue backwards and forwards. I've known Tom for many years, talked to him in green rooms at Fox and here on this show and my previous show. And he's an encyclopedia of knowledge and has tremendous experience on immigration enforcement issues. He's also completely aligned with the President of the United States on this. I think they want to make this more of a sort of a competition or a feud between these two. What I see more here is, okay, things are heating up. Let's get more hands on deck. And I don't think you could have better hands on deck to help out than bringing border czar Tom Holman into the fray.
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Clay Travis
Tom Holman got the Presidential Medal of Honor from Barack Obama. I know people forget that because now they're trying to turn him into an evil, awful villain. But he's been incredible on the border for a very long time. I mean, the guy, if he wasn't so fired up to have the back of all the, all the border employees, if he wasn't doing, the guy probably works buck 16 hours a day and has every day since Trump got back into office. So we love Tom Holman. We've had him on the program a lot. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago in the White House and he said to tell everybody hi. And so we appreciate all the work that he has done. Now let's play a couple more of these cuts. The White House press briefing is over. I do think it's significant and I tweeted this, but this is where my quad box comes in handy. To their credit, CNN pretty much takes every White House press briefing. President Caroline Levitt, J.D. vance, whoever it is, obviously FOX News does. MSNBC almost never does. I know it's Ms. Now, now, and I think it's clearly because they don't want their audience to be able to hear any countervailing narrative than what is being presented on their air. And so here are a couple of other different cuts. Caroline Levitt talking about President Trump's call with Minnesota Governor Tim Walz. Here it is, cut 34.
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Caroline Levitt
President Trump spoke with Governor Walz directly this morning, and he has outlined a clear and simple path to restoring law and order in Minnesota. Number one, Governor Waltz, Mayor Fry and all Democrat leaders should turn over all criminal illegal aliens currently incarcerated in their prisons and jails to federal authorities. Number two, state and local law enforcement must agree to turn over all illegal aliens who are arrested by local police. And then thirdly, local police must assist federal law enforcement in apprehending and detaining illegal aliens who are wanted for crimes, especially violent crimes. If Governor Walsh and Mayor Fry implement these common sense cooperative measures that I will add, have already been implemented in nearly every single other state across the country. Customs and Border Patrol will not be needed to support ICE on the ground in Minnesota. ICE and local law enforcement can peacefully work together as they are effectively doing in so many other states and jurisdictions.
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Clay Travis
Okay, and one more, Buck, that was discussing that phone call which we began the show talking about that President Trump and now Tim Walls have both commented on. And Caroline Levitt pointed out something significant. Buck, I got fired up over the weekend because the NBA decided that they couldn't play their game in Minneapolis because it wasn't safe. Meanwhile, the Minnesota Wild are able to play nine and a half miles away in another arena. University of Minnesota is able to play a game I think against Nebraska in basically the same area. And so it was a lot of posturing, a lot of left wing politicking. But I wanted to play this because everyone who is all worked up about what happened with the shooting on Saturday, almost none of the people that are fired up and they had a moment of silence at the Minnesota Timberwolves game for this guy. Caroline Levitt points out none of those people have said a word about all of the innocent people who have been killed by illegal immigrants. Listen to cut 36. This is really what all of this is about.
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Caroline Levitt
Former President Joe Biden and the Democrats opened America's borders for four years, inviting tens of millions of illegal aliens from all over the world to flood into our country. Among them violent criminals who terrorized American communities and have inflicted devastating permanent pain and harm on law abiding Americans and their families. Yet we never saw outrage from Democrats or their allies in the liberal media over these horrifying crimes against US Citizens. The pain of American angel families was ignored and dismissed because it undermined the Democrat narrative. Innocent Americans like Jocelyn Nungray Lake and Riley and Rachel Moran are just a few of the many victims savagely murdered by illegal alien criminals. Earlier this month, an illegal alien from Mexico with a long criminal history who came into our country under Joe Biden's administration, threw a baseball sized stone at a school bus carrying children in New Jersey and fractured the skull of an eight year old innocent child. President Trump promised accountability to these American families by securing the border, deporting every illegal alien who has committed crimes, especially and most importantly violent crime.
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Clay Travis
Okay, Buck, I think this is so important and the one thing I would suggest maybe the White House could message on this is I Don't think it's coincidental. And I bet most of you out there listening do not consider it coincidental either, that last week it was announced that we hit a 125 year low in murders in this country. Not since 1900 have we seen a murder rate this low. Do you think maybe having a secure border and kicking tons of violent predators out of the country has done maybe a little bit to help make us all safer and drive down the murder rate overall? I think link connecting these two is actually an important part of the message that the White House should be putting out there.
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Buck Sexton
Well, you know, it's also a virtuous cycle, Clay. You have, and this was true at the border, and it's true when you look at crime in major American cities. When you take more illegal alien criminals off the streets, you have a greater ability to focus your law enforcement resources on priority areas, priority threats. As in, you know, if you have. In a good sized American city, you may have 5,000 people in the whole city, and I'm talking about a city of a million people. You may have 5,000 people who are the ones that really do basically all the serious crime, and maybe the number's less than that. But if you take 500 of them off the streets, a thousand of them off the streets, it's just like anything else. Your resource allocation improves, your ability to. To deal with it is stronger. And also you're suffering less negative effects because you have a smaller criminal population. So doing all of these things, like I said, virtuous cycle results in more and more benefit as you go along. And so they have to continue to, I think, make this case very, very publicly. And Karen Levitt's doing an excellent job of it. That there are. That this has been building for a long time, that the Biden administration sold out our country, that our border was wide open, that criminal illegals came in large numbers. I mean, we could have a whole different conversation at some point, Clay, if we had gotten rid of every single wanted felon, illegal alien with a deportation order, if every single one of them was out of the country, deported after serving their sentence. Okay, well, then we'll talk about, you know, the optics of continued enforcement and where we should be. But this is like the most obvious stuff we're talking about here. And yet they still want to stop it. They want to shut it down, which just tells you they truly are open borders. They just won't admit that that's what they want. It's just like they want the eradication of gender entirely they just won't admit that. So they play all these games about gender identity and everything else.
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Clay Travis
And by the way. And we have loaded lines, everybody is fired up, wants to talk about this in earnest. I just want to keep coming back to. This is a clear attempt in Minneapolis to distract from Somali fraud. In Texas and Florida, they have arrested 10 times as many people for violating the law and deported them. And to my knowledge, Buck, have you seen one viral video from Florida or Texas of anybody refusing to cooperate with ice? I haven't. Most of the states and most of the cities in this country right now are doing their best to cooperate with ICE and get these people out of here. Minneapolis is not. And I think you have to ask yourself, why are they creating these conditions? It is as we all told you. We told you this is going to happen. We've been saying, when I saw this story happen on Saturday, I just said, you know what? This doesn't surprise me. And unfortunately, you know what else is going to happen? One of these crazy left wingers going to kill an ICE agent. Maybe more than one ICE agent. You mentioned the Dallas, Texas example when it came to BLM where the guy decided that police were the problem. What, did he kill five or six Dallas, Texas police officers?
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Buck Sexton
Five. Five, I think it was. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Unfortunately, I think we are rapidly, rapidly speeding towards what feels to me an inevitability where innocent ICE agents are going to be killed because of this temperature rise when they're trying to do their job.
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Buck Sexton
You and I know, and everyone with us right now knows that if that, God forbid, but if that were to happen, if there was even one ICE officer who murdered in some kind of an ambush by these lunatic street animals that are running around. Stop trying to stop this stuff. Blue sky, the Democrat online be one big celebration for them.
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Clay Travis
One big.
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Buck Sexton
They're disgraceful and you all know it. And you know how they would react to a law enforcement officer being killed in line of duty. That's where we are, unfortunately. And Tim Walsh and all these others, they have pushed this stuff all along and they. They absolutely have. Would have blood on their hands. And unfortunately, I think it's just a matter of time.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis BUCK SEXTON SHOW all right, let's get to some of these calls. A ton of you want to weigh in, Jim in the Twin Cities. Let's go up to Jim. You want to react to the situation. First of all, is it as crazy in Minneapolis? Does it feel that way to you or does it not? What does it feel like on the ground there?
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Caller
Well, honestly, it depends on where do you go. You know, if you're going to go down the Lake street or anywhere around the Lake street area, you're going to find insanity. But, you know, I mean, I spent a lot of time down in the southern suburbs and it's, it's quiet. But I see the, all these, these signs that people are putting on telephone poles that say a low IQ ice, you know, blah, blah, blah, with pictures of ICE agents and all that. But the point I wanted to make was the media is going to great lengths and let us know that he's a, he was a legal concealed carry holder. And the simple fact of the matter is you're required to have an ID on you. He had no id. You're required to carry your CC with you. He had no CC with him. And it's against the law to bring a weapon to a protest or demonstration. And the media never says a damned word about that. And that really Aggravates me.
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Clay Travis
Thank you for the call, Buck. I'll let you weigh in. More specifically, it is true that he did not have an ID on him. It is true that he did not have his concealed carry permit. My understanding is they actually tell the protesters not to carry IDs because it makes identification more difficult and makes the job of ICE agents and whoever is responding here more challenging than it otherwise would be. I believe these would be misdemeanors. And if you have a concealed carry permit and. Or you have an id, you can get those reduced by providing them at your court date. That is my understanding. Legally, does that sort of comport with what you would expect as the more firearms expert on the program? I'm.
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Buck Sexton
I'm a Florida firearms guy, where it's basically like, we love the Second Amendment. Enjoy Florida. Like, there's not a. You know, it's. It's. This state has its head on. Right. When it comes to that stuff, I don't know what the deal is in Minnesota. I think it probably has legacy laws that are pretty good because of all the hunting up there. But in terms of, like, pistol carry and everything, I'd have to. It's so state by state, Clay. And we've had conflicting statements, even from the. From a lot of different voices about whether it's legal to bring a gun to a protest. Remember, it's not a blanket statement. Is it legal to bring a gun to a protest in Minnesota under these circumstances? I'd have to look at the specifics about whether you need to have your CCW on you, whether all. I don't know. The real answer, Clay, is I'd have to look at specifically in Minnesota, how it's going. But the Minnesota listeners there, they can definitely fill us in some more. Let's see, Tim and Crystal River, Florida. What's going on, Tim?
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Clay Travis
Tim, you got to be fast.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah. You got 20 seconds.
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Caller
Yeah, I have. I have that exact gun that the.
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Buck Sexton
Guy had and the.326.
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Clay Travis
You're right.
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Caller
And I would want to. It's a very soft trigger to the point where you. It feels like a bump stock. So I sent mine in because mine was within the serial number range. And they did the upgrade, they called it. But on YouTube, there are several videos, including a law enforcement guy with the firearm holster standing around talking to his guys, and the gun goes off.
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Buck Sexton
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Caller
Hey guys. I just want to make the point that I think this is exactly the kind of thing that Governor no Balls wanted to happen.
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Buck Sexton
I mean he pretty much incited all.
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Caller
These people to be out there. And when you got a bunch of psycho whistleblowing idiots out there obstructing justice, mistakes are going to happen. That being said, thank you. Made a mistake on this one.
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Buck Sexton
They might have. Look, I want to be clear. We call balls and strikes here on all this stuff. You know, I don't just side with law enforcement reflexively. I wrote a scathing piece years ago. You can still see it. It was like, if you can execute a man on video, none of us are safe. And it was about what happened to Daniel Shaver, which to me was just the most obvious murder. Murder by cop. I, I've. Well, actually the most obvious or the what? I mean there was the guy, it was a black man who was shot.
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Clay Travis
In the back, South Carolina, I think when he was running it was pretty clear. But this, this, this story didn't get a lot of attention that you wrote about because it was a white guy on his knees, like walking slowly towards a a flanks of.
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Buck Sexton
He was crying, he was clearly terrified. He didn't have a weapon. I mean the whole thing. And the guy had an AR trained on him. The whole thing was completely grotesque and horrific. And they, the DA did charge the cop with murder. The jury didn't find him guilty of murder. I mean as the dumbest jury I've ever heard of. I mean that's like OJ level jury like what are you doing? I mean it was really bad, but that's what ended up happening.
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Caller
What's.
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Buck Sexton
What's up next year? John in Oklahoma. What's going on? John?
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Caller
Hi, Clay. Hi, Buck. John from Norman, Oklahoma. And I want to thank you all for your service. I've been listening to your show before it started. Really appreciate you carrying the torch for Rush. You know I have three primary I support 100% CBP and ice the three bullet points here and then I'll go offline to hear your comments. You know, the unlimited funding of these local people by radical leftists is just creating obstruction and assault on illegal. On the attempt to apprehend illegal criminal harden aliens. Number two, the blue state. As Glenn Beck says, blue state Cities illegal harboring and hardening criminals, protecting them. And three, you know, the blood is on the hands of Mayor Fry and Governor Waltz because of their crazy rhetoric and to try to hide their own corrupt schemes. So I think we need to use this as a turning point in our country and record turnout for the midterms so that we can let President Trump continue to do his great work.
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Buck Sexton
Okay.
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Clay Travis
I appreciate the call. I mean, I think he said a lot of things there that are true. I think the way that you flow on culpability is to a large extent, I think, a question of how do we get here. Right. We don't know specifically on the shooting buck about whether or not it was, quote, a legal shoot or how it's going to be analyzed. What we do know is that the situation that was put in place, that created that moment, is an intentional design by protesters Walls and Fry. And I think the caller is right, Bart. In sort of the most beautiful places in the world, by the way, certainly in one of the most beautiful places in the country. Carlsbad, California Bart, what you got for us?
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Caller
Thanks. I want to talk about natural or legal consequences and ask you this question. Are people who are funding or promoting individuals to commit a felony or by attacking police officers considered an accomplice to the deaths of people they front? And I'll give you an example. If I hire somebody to hurt you or kill you and you defend yourself to that person and you kill that person, do I get away scot free? Not really. How come, how come these people, you got to cut the head off the snake? And I know they're investigating them, but they really need to expose these people. And the media should also be held responsible for this. I mean, there's a book called how the Media Creates Victims, and that book explains how the media contributes to a lot of what's going on. But the people funding there needs to be consequences and they need to be held as accomplices to what's going on.
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Clay Travis
Thank you for the call. And there is an investigation going into, I'm sure many of you saw, we talked about earlier in the program, the signal chat and the fact that this is an organized obstruction of legal investigations and arrests that are going on. And so this is where we come back.
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Buck Sexton
You sure? Go ahead.
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Clay Travis
I was just. This is where we've been arguing for a long time. And I think President Trump is right. Sanctuary cities are a violation of federal law. And so big picture, this is what is creating all of this conflict.
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Buck Sexton
Well, as I, you know, this is the way they hide in this one is they do the omission commission thing, which we've. We've mentioned before. But they, you, you know, you can't like their argument. The argument the sanctuary cities have been making. And by the way, no one is more anti sanctuary city than me, to be clear. I think what they're doing is like destroying the country. But the argument that they make legally is you can't. The federal government essentially can't just commandeer local law enforcement for its own purposes because that would blur the distinction between state and federal and like posse comitatus comes into play and all this different stuff. So you can't say, hey, you the local sheriff or you the, you know, you the. Like the metro police have to do what we want as the feds. But that's a different thing than we're going to hide. Like we're going to actively hide illegal immigrants from you or we're going to, you know, escort them through the courthouse so that you don't see them or, you know, so the, the lack of action on their part is a tougher thing to punish legally than action that obstructs. Right. Obstruction is really the key, the key issue. But I mean, Clay, what. They won't hold them in a prison when they know they've got them say hold them. They won't even notify.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
They won't tell ice, hey, we've got this guy that we know you want. Think of it. This would be, you know, imagine if the state of New York was just like, you know, we've got a criminal that the state of Texas really wants and it has active warrants on for like really serious crimes. But we're not, we're not going to work with Texas authorities on that one. The whole system would break down. You know, you, you wouldn't have law enforcement in this country anymore if that's the way different law enforcement agencies, law enforcement agencies cooperate all the time. It's one of the most important things they actually do in this country is work with other law enforcement agencies. Agencies. Because otherwise someone, you know, you know the old cartoon where like the guy would slide across the border to wherever or slide across the border to Mexico and it's like, now the sheriff can't get him. That would be every state in the country. Right. Of course, you have to have cooperation with different law enforcement entities, but they won't do it in sanctuary cities.
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Clay Travis
It's totally right. And that goes to the essence of it. David in Memphis is asking a question and again, a lot of this stuff, you know, this is a good, a good time to suggest. Go download the podcast if you're just now getting in your car because you've been busy or you're just now able to tune in. We've been talking about this in a lot of detail throughout the course of the program. And you can go check it out by downloading the podcast. You can check us out on YouTube. You can find us everywhere. But David in Memphis. Let me start with this, David. Does Memphis feel quite a bit safer to you since the president has surged resources there? Because the data reflects that it is. Do you feel it there on the ground?
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Caller
Oh, absolutely.
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Clay Travis
I work.
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Caller
I go to work at 3 o' clock in the morning downtown, so. Oh, definitely, Absolutely.
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Clay Travis
Okay. You wanted to weigh in on this, the shooting in this individual.
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Caller
Well, I'm a nurse, but a nurse 40 years. I have a lot of other nurses who are socially active. We went out and supported protesters, but, you know, we took things like bottled water, first aid supplies, blankets. We didn't take guns. So I just wonder why this guy chose a gun. If you really wanted to help these folks. That's all I'm asking.
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Clay Travis
Thank you for the call. I think it's a great question. Again, I, I have said this, Buck, and this is where my kids make fun of me. I think about everything in the context of what advice would I give my kids? Your kids are going to get older, Buck, and you're going to start having this decision because you can make your own choices. But you really start thinking, what are my knucklehead kids going to get into if they were going to a protest? And I'm not saying it's not legal to take a gun to a protest in Tennessee. I'm sure it is. I would bet, I'm not. I have never been involved in that case, but I would bet, given the prominence of first Second Amendment rights, don't take a gun to a protest. And if you know you're going to be engaged in a place where there's violent activities, like, I know, but I.
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Buck Sexton
Think this is so important. He wasn't protesting. Yeah. He was involved in direct action, sabotage against law enforcement. He is not a protester. You are not a protest. You know, tell this to all the abortion zealots out there are. The moment that someone like is lying in the walkway to the clinic, they say that that's violation of constitutional rights. People go to prison for that. Ok. They say it's obstructing access to the clinic. These people are obstructing Active law enforcement investigations, in some cases for violent felons getting in the way, causing, you know, causing noise, causing mayhem, making it a more dangerous situation. It's not a protest.
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Clay Travis
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
By the way, we all know why it's not a protest. They can have all these purple haired losers show up. They can have a million purple haired losers show up in downtown Minneapolis and they'd all be, you know, shoulder to.
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Clay Travis
Shoulder, like, ah, we hate ICE enforcement.
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Buck Sexton
Do you care? Do I care? Does anyone listening care? No, they're not protesting to raise their voices so that we can hear what the issue is. They're trying to stop Trump from enforcing the law to stop it from happening.
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Clay Travis
I think that's a good point. Also, they did have a protest. When everybody walks down the street, chanting, holding signs, all those things, good for you. But when you're showing up, blowing a whistle, standing in the road, trying to block ingress and egress, trying to interfere with actually ongoing processes, which is what they are doing in that signal chat, you step beyond protest to active obstruction. I think that's an important aspect here too.
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Buck Sexton
Let's do DD Terror. Terry from Mini from Minnesota on the talk back hit that one, guys. Clay, it's your boy Terry here from Minnesota. Great show today. Yeah, the, the weapon or the firearm that he was using, I believe they do have misfiring issues. And I went to the shooting range with my cousin and he actually had that weapon and he was warning me while using it that it did have a misfire issue. So it's very well known, I believe in the shooting community and the gun ownership community and I think that should be brought up.
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Caller
So think about that one.
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Buck Sexton
Have a good one, guys. Thank you, man. First of all, appreciate you calling in from your snowshoeing expedition or wherever you were there in Minneapolis. That's what it sounded like. I could hear the snow crunching under his feet. And look, the Sig 320, the Sig Sauer 320 is what we're talking about here. Since it's all out there, I guess we'll just talk about it. Clay, you know, I get guns. True gun elite experts who say that that's nonsense. It doesn't fire unless you and other people say, you know, I don't know, I, I haven't run the studies myself, but there's a lot of debate in the gun community about this right now. I think they have done some modifications to it and there was some kind of a recall. There might even been a recall to like make sure. But I think it's a super sensitive trigger, which is really not the same thing as like what people are saying it is. Because once your finger is in that trigger guard, if you're touching that trigger.
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Clay Travis
Like.
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Buck Sexton
You'Re getting really close to having a problem.
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Clay Travis
So we'll see. And again that that discussion has come out of there's some suggestion that the individual's gun, after it was seized may have discharged. What caused that? That could have been the impetus to lead to the shooting. We'll take a few more of your calls. Tons of talkbacks. We appreciate all of you much less seriously. Over the weekend I watched the AFC and the NFC Championship game and we won in prize picks. We got hooked up and got the win on Matthew Stafford and Sam Darnold both throwing more than one and a half touchdowns. Which means if you played along with us, you won 2.7x 2.75x your money. I'm gonna give you a Super bowl pick for two. Basically what, 13 days from now is the super bowl taking place out in San Francisco between the Seahawks and the Patriots. I will give you a pick on that. If you want to play along, you can get signed up in all 50 states. If you go to prizepix.com use my name Clay. You get $50 deposited in your account when you play. $5. That's my name Clay. Prizepix.com code Clay $50 in your account when you play. Five dollars. I'll give everybody a Super bowl pick and you'll be glad if you play along. Hopefully we can win like we won this past Sunday yesterday. Prizepix.com code Clay that is prizepix.com code clay making America great again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcast Sundays at noon.
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Caller
Hey guys. We in Florida have what is called the halo law which means all participants, anybody has to be 25ft away from any active police investigations, emergency situations. I don't know why that's not in enacted in all 50 states. I just think it's crazy because if they impede 25ft area they're arrested and or they're fined.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, great call. I love the idea. I don't know what it is there. Buck Rich in Sacramento, California. Rich, fire away.
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Caller
Hey claim Buck doing a great job. Hey. When my kid was playing youth sports here in Sacramento, we were in a pretty rough part of town. Gunshots, we could hear them intermittently and one of the dads was a SWAT officer. So one day I heard a shot go off. I walked over and I said are you packing today? You know, are you carrying? He said no. He goes, it takes a lot of responsibility. This guy was a lead SWAT officer and his decision making process was it's not always appropriate and for a 37 year old nurse. I was an ICU nurse for 27 years. I would never consider carrying a gun, which I own into an environment like that. You guys are doing great. Just reinforcing what you're saying.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Thank you, thank you. Apologies to everybody. We didn't get to. I know tons of you out there are dealing with freezing weather. Weather. Please stay safe. We'll try to keep you updated. I know half of Nashville is without power. Much of the south, awful ice storms. We love you. We appreciate you stay safe out there in what is right now brutal weather conditions for much of the country. Not where Buck is in Miami. We will be back with you guys tomorrow. Thanks for all the calls and feedback as always.
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