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Clay Travis BUCK SEXTON show We are waiting on Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky to join us. A lot of different stories. We have been discussing Tulsi Gabbard having a press conference right now to discuss the Russia gate documents that have been released. We need to get Tulsi on the program. Producer Ali Buck met with her recently. I would have except I didn't have the real ID so I couldn't get into the meeting which is very par for the course.
Clay Travis
Clay showed up at the velvet rope. He's like come on man, I know Trump. And they were like you're not on the list. Look at those flip flops.
Tulsi Gabbard
I this is the only thing I've been turned away from for not having a real id. Now I travel with my passport. I do have a passport but for some reason the state of Tennessee licenses I would have to make an appointment and spend a whole day to get a star on my ID So I haven't been willing to do it. But Buck met with Tulsi. We met with a bunch of people in the intelligence agencies under Trump. We will get Tulsi on the program again sometime in the future and we are monitoring this press conference and we will glab grab a lot of the audio that she is sharing right now. Other news as we have talked about major trader deals being announced and we now have been joined by Senator Rand Paul who is with us. And Senator, appreciate you joining us. I'll just ask the big question right off the top. You got Tulsi Gabbard coming out with Russiagate. You have been documents that seem to show that the truth was known and not shared with the American public as it pertains to Russia's involvement in the 2016 election. You have been trying to hold Dr. Anthony Fauci accountable for a very long time over the lies that I think we believe he told under oath relating to Covid and American gain of function, research and all of these things. I would say the number one question that Buck and I get on a regular basis is we see all the evidence. We believe that there is ample evidence there for charges to be brought. Yet all of these people in positions of power never have charges brought against them. They can find anybody who walked into the Capitol on January 6th and arrest them and throw the book at them. But if you're super powerful and you're on the left side of the political equation, nothing ever happens to you, will anything. Are you as frustrated as our average listener would be over this?
Senator Rand Paul
Yes. And, you know, I sense the frustration, and I, you know, see some of the responses on our social media. What are you going to do? When are you going to arrest Fauci? People do have to realize I have no ability to arrest anyone, but the Department of Justice does, and I've done everything I can. I referred Fauci twice under Biden. I presumed they would ignore it. But now I have referred him most recently just in the last week, to the Trump Department of Justice. And there needs to be a hue and cry that he needs to be prosecuted. I think he clearly lied to Congress. The other thing is, is it would bring up his pardon. And then I think in court, we need to have a test case to see if a auto pin signature is a valid pardon. I think there would be then in court the discussion of who ran the auto pen, who gave them the orders. You know, I think so far we know the person running the auto pen says some guy that worked for Joe Biden told him to do it. And ultimately, you'd have to have the. You could essentially, I think, bring in the testimony of ultimately either the. The, you know, the president's wife or the president. It'd be hard to get them into court, but this would be a test case of whether that pardon holds.
Clay Travis
Senator Paul, always appreciate you being with us. I wanted to ask you about the Fed one. I know I think you want to get more of a look into the books at the Fed, but can you also speak to the, what is it, a $2 billion renovation that the Federal Reserve's Washington, D.C. headquarters has gotten? I know in D.C. money has a whole different meaning or Lack of meaning, depending. But $2 billion for Reno, that's pretty pricey stuff. What's going on?
Senator Rand Paul
Well, you know, the Federal Reserve doesn't even have congressional oversight as far as the power of the purse. They just print it up. They've got their own printing press and they spend whatever they feel like spending. And so they started out at 1.9 billion, and they're 600 billion over. They're up to 2.5 billion. They're $600,000 or a 33% increase in. Over, over, over the original estimate. But, you know, you want to talk about real money, the thing, the Federal Reserve's that offends me more than anything else is they are paying big banks in New York and around the world not to loan money. It's a program that started in 2009. They were paying banks like a quarter of a point or a half a point not to loan money. And it was, it was money, but it wasn't huge amounts. Now they're paying them 4.4% as of about a week or two ago. And that 4.4% equals $188 billion. And 40% of that money is going to foreign banks. So it's not only the Federal Reserve holds American debt, so we have to raise taxes to pay the Federal Reserve interest. They get our interest, then they're paying our interest back to big banks to tell them not to loan money. It's the craziest scam you've ever heard of. But it's real money now, and there's nothing that unites the right and the left. It's when taxpayer money or government controlled money like this is going from the regular middle class to the very wealthy elite. Not only of our country, of the world.
Tulsi Gabbard
We're talking to center Rand Paul of Kentucky. What did you think of Andy Beshear's Vogue photo shoot?
Senator Rand Paul
You know, I think he's running for Secretary of transportation. I think he really wants to be the next booted judge. So I think he's got a great shot at it.
Tulsi Gabbard
I couldn't believe I was looking at these photos and I just thought to myself, who in Kentucky is thinking, hey, you know, I really want to see a Vogue photo shoot of the governor. And I, when I saw this, I was like, oh, I bet, because I remember you came on with this last, last time, said he's gonna try to run for president. But I just look at this guy. He's one of the worst governors out there. To do that, to sign off on the Vogue photo shoot. I couldn't believe it was real.
Senator Rand Paul
Well, here's the real question. Did Vogue actually ask him about vetoing a bill that would have stopped sex change surgeries for minors? So our Republican legislature put for him a bill to no longer have minors, not allow minors to make a decision to have this permanent surgery, and he vetoed it. So our Republican legislature promptly overrode him. But this guy is not part of the mainstream. He's part of the extreme left, and he got lucky somehow to win in our state. But there's nothing about him that is moderate. He is as progressive as the day is long.
Clay Travis
Senator PAUL Something that's gotten a bit of attention today has to do with the president's ability to get his appointees in place, particularly on the judiciary side. And when it comes to U.S. attorneys, as the Trump administration appointed Alina Haba, one of Trump's lawyers, to be the U.S. attorney in New Jersey, a U.S. attorney in New Jersey judges there decided Democrat appointed judges, no shock to anyone that she was unacceptable and they just picked someone else. Now, that I understand is getting a bit specific into what's going on in New Jersey, but how is it going with Senate confirmation of the various appointees and specifically for judicial nominees? Because that's such a critical thing to be functioning efficiently. And I am hearing some complaints from people who, well, work right near you on Capitol Hill about Senate Leader Thune and not getting this thing done with the efficiency and, you know, absolute sense of urgency that it needs to be done.
Senator Rand Paul
You know, the good news is that we've actually approved twice as many as we had in 2017 when Trump won in 2017. By this time in the summer of that first year, we had approved about 55. I think we're up over 110. So it's a slow, laborious process. And the Democrats are worse than they've ever been in the sense that it typically and historically, the leadership would sit down from each party at the end of the week. They'd agree to a list of 10 or 15 that pass them all together in one group by voice vote. None of that happens anymore. So we have like 1500 Trump appointees. We got to vote on them one at a time. Most of them we have to wait two hours we vote to get onto the bill to vote for them, and then two hours later to confirm them. And so it's laborious. But the good news is we've done twice as many as we did in 2017. So I think given the Democrats opposition and obstruction, I think we're Doing pretty well.
Tulsi Gabbard
What should happen with the Russia gate? We've got Tulsi Gabbard having a press conference right now. You went through all of this in the attempt to delegitimize Trump's election in 2016. I said on the air, I actually think the 2020 actions that were done to try to argue from the 51 intelligence agents, the Hunter Biden laptop not releasing the fact that maybe we thought back then, hey, we've got a successful vaccine. There were a lot of things that could have been out publicly that could have swung this election a big way. I think 2020 was rigged substantially. But what should happen associated with 2016 in your mind, both practically and if you had an ideal world. Right, because there's the reality of what can happen and what should happen. How would you distinguish between those two?
Senator Rand Paul
You know, I always look at things in general terms. I'm horrified by what they did to Donald Trump, and it should make everyone mad. But I'm also concerned about average, ordinary Americans and what they can do and what this power means could be done to average, ordinary American. So I'm for taking that power away. You know, some people want Brennan in jail, they want Obama in jail, and those things are unlikely to happen. But the one thing we could do as a Congress is take power away from the intelligence agencies. They should not have as much power. I have always thought, from the beginning, I've said it publicly, I believe that Brennan called foreign governments and used their intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign. You remember these random meetings in the bar with different Trump campaign officials. I don't believe they were random. I think they were planned. And I think because it's illegal for our CIA to investigate Americans, much less Americans involved in politics, I think they got our allies in on it. And I think there is a bit of massive cover up from the very beginning on this. I do think what she's pointing out, what Tulsi Gabbard has said, is incredibly important. The assessment by all of the intelligence agencies after 2016 is that the Russians, like they always do, tried to mess with our elections, that it was ineffectual, it was tiny, it was minute, it was some Facebook ads and did not affect the outcome. That was the conclusion. But then that conclusion was vetoed by Brennan and high ranking people because they chose to create a narrative that the election was stolen, that the election was illegitimate. Hillary Clinton said it, Jimmy Carter said it, all the leading Democrats said that Trump was an illegitimate president. And what they did is they then ceded information throughout all of government to try to start this narrative that there was a Russian collusion. One of the most bizarre parts of this is the Hillary Clinton campaign pays for the Steele dossier that has this so called incriminating information and they give it to our government. But then they also send Steel to Halifax, Nova Scotia to meet John McCain and secretly give him the file as well. He comes back to Washington, takes the bait, is all hysterical, and then gives it back to government. But that's where it started. So the government commissioned Steele to go back. It starts with the Clinton campaign. This Christopher Steele, a former spy, collects all this nonsense, puts it in the folder, gives it to John McCain who breathlessly races back to Washington to help get the thing started. But this was a big psyops. This was a big operation by intelligence community and of course it was illegal. And I'm proud of Tulsi Gabbard for getting to the bottom and I hope she continues to overturn and expose this corruption.
Clay Travis
Transparency is incredibly important on this. So Senator Paul, we agree with you wholeheartedly on that. Do you think it is feasible, not even likely, but feasible that anybody could be put in handcuffs based on what they did with Russia collusion?
Senator Rand Paul
You know, they'll all tell a different tale and you know, changing an intelligence report, they'll say they got other information. It's going to be hard to put anybody in jail on that. But the main thing I always look for in this is trying to fix the system so it doesn't happen again. So what we should conclude from this is intelligence agencies have the power to destroy individuals. And so there needs to be more checks and balances and less ability of an intelligence agency to investigate Americans. This goes along with the FISA database that they have, which a lot of Americans are sucked up into the system. It goes along with that Quiet Skies program where they were spying on Tulsi Gabbard when she was on planes. There's so much abuse and nobody in Congress knows anything about what the intelligence agencies do other than the Intelligence Committee in the Senate and the House. And they silo off information and they try to prevent any other members from knowing exactly what they're doing. Their budgets are secret. It's very, it's like pulling teeth to get any kind of look at any of their budgets. So yeah, there's too much power. And we went through this after J. Edgar Hoover and he was using the power of the office to blackmail people. He was using the power of the office to illegally spy on people. And there were big reforms in the 70s. But since the 1970s, the reforms have worn off and the intelligence agencies have grown too strong again. What they did to Donald Trump should be a call, a clarion call for us to reform them and strip back their power center.
Clay Travis
Rand Paul. Appreciate you making the time for us, sir.
Senator Rand Paul
Oh, on the real id, Clay, I gotta tell you, if you stand in the line to get the chip put in, they can insert that chip in no time at all. And there's no line.
Tulsi Gabbard
I don't even know what that means. I feel like this is a joke. You're so dead panning it there that I was like, you're.
Senator Rand Paul
It is a joke. Get another line. But no, it took me three months to get the damn real id and they kept refusing to give it to me because some of my documents said Randall and not Rand, and they weren't sure I was who I was presenting myself to be.
Tulsi Gabbard
I. This drives me. You go in and out of Nashville like I do because you live in Kentucky, but this drives me absolutely bonkers. Appreciate the time.
Senator Rand Paul
I hate it. I hate it. We fought it for years and years in Kentucky, and finally they take away your right to travel. Apparently, the right to travel is a privilege, and you can only travel under the government auspices. It's a step in the wrong direction.
Tulsi Gabbard
Amen.
Clay Travis
All right, Senator Paul. Thank you so much, Clay. Also, that deadpan when I had no idea that was a joke.
Tulsi Gabbard
Well, he got me. He's such a serious guy usually. He really got me because I was getting ready for you to read and I was like, implant what? That was well played by Senator Paul.
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All right, so we've got some breaking news here from Tulsi Gabbard, the DNI Director of National Intelligence. People forget too very much part of maga, part of Trump's senior, most, his most senior intelligence official, a Democrat formerly and has come over into the light and into the, into the warm embrace of maga. But she has referred Barack Obama to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution. She announced this. We will play some soundbites for you again, guys. I could be wrong. Clay could be wrong on this one. Maybe this, maybe this does go more of a distance than we had anticipated. It's possible. I completely and any criminal wrongdoing should be punished. Anything they can prove in a court of law that violates statute, absolutely. Go for it. We'll see. We'll play some of this. We have some updates for you. It's heating up. It's heating up. So stay with us for this. We'll get right back to it in, in a minute. It's hard to imagine we as a country have a national, a national asset worth more than 100 trillion, but we do if you add it all up. So there could also be a plan to monetize these natural resources under our nation's surface. And if you listen to presidential and former presidential advisor Jim Rickards, this plan is bigger than any of us can comprehend right now. Jim knows what he's talking about. He's made huge predictions in the past, like the 2008 crash and Trump's 2016 victory. Rickards believes President Trump is about to unleash a $150 trillion state owned asset hidden for over a century, which could trigger an economic boom and help people make lots of money if they properly position themselves. But you gotta see, because once this breaks as mainstream news, the opportunity vanishes. You gotta see Jim's interview for yourself. Do your homework on this one. See what Jim Rickards has to say. Go to birthright2025.com to check out what Jim's analysis is on this issue. Birthright2025.com paid for by Paradigm Prep okay.
Tulsi Gabbard
We got a ton of stuff popping. You just heard us with Senator Rand Paul. Tulsi Gabbard at the White House briefing at the rostrum there beside Caroline Lever. Levitt said a couple of different things that I want to play for you. First. This is a 10 minute roughly discussion. So we're pulling a couple of minutes out of this. I just retweeted the full 10 minutes. I would encourage you guys to go watch the full 10 minutes for yourselves. And you can go to at Clay Travis on Twitter. You can find it. The Trump White House has shared it. But again, I always want you to listen to everything in totality. But here are two different cuts. Here is cut 31, irrefutable evidence that Barack Obama and his national security team knew that this evidence was false and directed its creation. This is cut 31, Tulsi Gabbard.
Unknown Speaker
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help President Trump win, selling it to the American people as though it were true. It wasn't. The report that we released today shows in great detail how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources. They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claim. They disobeyed traditional tradecraft intelligence community standards and withheld the truth from the American people. In doing so, they conspired to subvert the will of the American people who elected Donald Trump in that election in November of 2016. They worked with their partners in the media to promote this lie, ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump and launching what would be a years long coup against him and his administration. We're here today because the American people deserve the truth.
Tulsi Gabbard
Okay, how much smarter is Tulsi, by the way, than Kamala Harris? Remember when they were trying to decide who's going to be Biden's vp? Just think about that for a moment as I continue to play these cuts. I just want that in the back of your mind. These are explosive allegations.
Clay Travis
They made a big mistake on that one.
Tulsi Gabbard
Oh, she might be President of the United States right now.
Clay Travis
Correct.
Tulsi Gabbard
If they had chosen her as the VP and had to elevate her 25th amendmented Old Joe.
Clay Travis
I think possibly I think you're right.
Tulsi Gabbard
Too, because she's sharp, whatever you think of her. And remember, she ran for president as a Democrat, which is why I think she's so effective here making this case. She ran in 2020. She wasn't Democrat for most of her life. Uh, here she is saying this is a big, big matzo ball here. They have referred all of this evidence to the Department of Justice that they believe Obama committed crimes. Cut 32.
Unknown Speaker
Any of this new information implicates former President Obama in criminal behavior. We have referred and will continue to refer all of these documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate the criminal implications of this. The evidence. Correct. The evidence that we have found and that we have released directly point to President Obama leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment. There are multiple pieces of evidence and intelligence that confirm that fact.
Clay Travis
Ok, ok, Clay, so here's here, here's maybe where this goes. Now that I'm seeing them like, you know, hey, we're dealing with this in real time as it happens. They just, just so everyone's on the same page here. Criminal referrals to the DOJ about things like this happen all the time and nothing comes of them. Just remember that. Especially about things like leaks. And a referral to the DOJ just means, it's almost like a tip. Hey, this is here. We got this.
Tulsi Gabbard
We're taking a look at crime here. You should investigate it further, you know.
Clay Travis
But it's, it's very preliminary. Ok, so the referral is something, but it's a one step in a very long journey. But you could have Pam Bondi in, I don't know, a few weeks time, maybe sooner, whatever the timeline is, come forward and say the DOJ has substantial evidence of Barack Obama involved in what we believe was a suspicious, A seditious. And suspicious, but a seditious conspiracy. However, we know the Supreme Court has established an immunity for Obama's official acts. So even though he was engaged in what we think at this stage was criminal, the department does not think it would be in the interest of the American people to go forward because prosecution would likely be impossible.
Tulsi Gabbard
But, you know, it'd be true.
Clay Travis
You get it all on the record, right? You get it all out there. Look, we think, we think Obama's a crook, but he was president, so we can't do anything about it.
Tulsi Gabbard
Well, and that's going to frustrate people because it's basically what happened with Hillary. Right? We think that there was a crime, but we don't think we could prosecute. You also had basically Robert her say that about Biden's handling of the classified documents. This was criminal, but he's an old man with mush for brains and so we don't think a jury would convict him. Here are some other cuts. I would say these are landing like body blows. Cut 33 Tulsi saying this was a major disservice to the American people about Obama's statement.
Unknown Speaker
I think it's a disservice to the American people that former President Obama's office and others who are criticizing the transparency that is being delivered by releasing the documents. They are doing a disservice to the American people and trying to deflect away from their culpability in what is a historic scandal and negative action towards the American people and our Democratic Republic. The answer to that statement can very clearly be found throughout all of the documents that we have released. Again showing that Russia has took action to try to sow disposition cord in the election, but showed no preference for or against any singular candidate.
Tulsi Gabbard
In other words, and we're going to play this cut because I think it ties in. Russia was just a malefactor, right? They just wanted to make America weaker. They didn't particularly care how they weakened us, whether it was through Trump, whether it was from Hillary. And I would argue this is probably the most successful ever impact because what it's done is Russia has sown tremendous discord in America about our democratic processes because that's exactly what they would have wanted to do. Here. Tulsi is saying Russia believed that Hillary Clinton had significant emotional problems according to the documents they've uncovered. Here's cut 34.
Unknown Speaker
They also had documents that showed the patronage of the State Department to State Department employees who would go and support Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. There were high level DNC emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's quote, psycho emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression and cheerfulness. And that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on a daily regimen of heavy tranquilizers. Then CIA Director Brennan and the intelligence community mischaracterized intelligence and relied on dubious substandard sources to create a copy contrived false narrative that Putin developed a quote, unquote clear preference for Trump. Brennan and the IC misled lawmakers by referencing the debunked Steele dossier to assess, quote, unquote, Russia's plans and intentions, falsely suggesting that this dossier had intelligence value when he knew that it was discredited.
Tulsi Gabbard
Okay, let's keep going here because there's a lot of bombshells and then we'll react to them here as the show continues. Here is Tulsi saying the details of this are far reaching and it's clear to her that a president manufactured a scandal to undermine the incoming administration. Cut 35.
Unknown Speaker
This is a brief summary of the details that you'll find within the House Majority Staff's report in their investigation into The Obama directed January 2017 intelligence community assessment. That leads us to the very same conclusion that we announced in the release of our documents on Friday. The implications of this are far reaching and have to do with the integrity of our Democratic Republic. It has to do with an outgoing president taking action to manufacture intelligence to undermine and usurp the will of the American people in that election and launch what would be a years long coup against the incoming president, United States, Donald Trump.
Tulsi Gabbard
Okay, couple more cuts because there's a lot here. You mentioned Buck the possibility what would the charges look like? Treasonous conspiracy was one of the things that you referenced on the program. Cut 36 is, I believe, a discussion of that. Listen, the president yesterday you've inferred that.
Clay Travis
The former president helped lead a coup.
Senator Rand Paul
Based on what you now see, do.
Clay Travis
You believe President Obama is guilty of treason?
Unknown Speaker
I'm leaving the criminal charges to the Department of Justice. I am not an attorney, but as I've said previously, when you look at the intent behind creating a fake manufactured intelligence document that directly contradicts multiple assessments that were created by the intelligence community, the expressed intent and what followed afterward can only be described as a years long coup and a treasonous conspiracy against the American people, our Republic, and an attempt to undermine President Trump's administration.
Clay Travis
Whoa, whoa.
Tulsi Gabbard
Yeah, that's big barrels. That's ok. Now I want to play this too. You're all hearing this. I'm trying to play as much of what Tulsi said we are. So you can all hear it. What would happen if you were watching this on cnn? They cut away. This is important because what you hear and what we hear is very different than what you might hear. If you watch cnn, msnbc, read the New York Times, the Washington Post. They're not getting told the full story, but I thought this was good. You're going to hear CNN say we got to cut away from this. Cut 37.
Unknown Speaker
Multiple intelligence community assessments released in the months leading up to the November 2016 election concluded that Russia had neither the intent nor capability to impact the outcome of the US election on December 5th.
Clay Travis
We've been listening there to the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, continuing on what has now been a multi day effort not only with public statements like this, but release of documents to attempt to back up the quite extreme allegation.
Tulsi Gabbard
That President Obama is guilty of treason.
Clay Travis
And that he worked in some sort.
Tulsi Gabbard
Of conspiracy with Hillary Clinton, etc.
Clay Travis
In the assessment by the intelligence community at the time that Russia interfered in the 2016 election. Okay, CNN was part of the conspiracy. Just to be clear, CNN was a co conspirator in the Russia collusion fabrication.
Tulsi Gabbard
Not only that they gave them awards that they still have. All of them got Pulitzers at the New York Times, at the Washington Post. The media establishment not only got took, they actually went out there and said you're the sterling example of truth and speaking out to hold people accountable. They still have the Pulitzers. They haven't returned them. They got Pulitzers for a hundred percent fake news. They rewarded and awarded everyone who was involved in peddling these lies. This is big. Look, whatever you think, and again I am skeptical based on history, as we said off the top of the show Buck 2, that there will actually be criminal charges brought here. I do think at a minimum this is rewriting in real time what many people believe about the 2016 election. And then again to me it connects to 2020. And whatever you think, how amazing does Tulsi sound? The clips that we played just right up there, firing away, sharing all of these details. And I think it's particularly a sign of strength for Trump that this is not a longtime right wing ideologue who is making this case. It's a former Democrat, someone who ran for president against Trump in 2020, someone that Joe Biden supposedly considered as a vice presidential running mate. As soon as he said that I'm only gonna pick a woman and I would just say whatever your politics. Can you imagine Kamala Harris trying to lay this out in any kind of understandable, coherent fashion? I can't. Just like Tulsi did. We'll talk about this more. By the way, Epstein, news Obama appointed federal district court judge is refusing to release the grand jury transcripts from that case too. So he got breaking news everywhere. In the meantime, when it's time to be a responsible adult, guess what you need to do? Having a will and a trust. Something you do for the benefit of your loved ones. Your will becomes your voice. When there's no will or trust left behind, your estate can be tied up in probate for months longer. Your kids, grandkids can end up fighting. You want to try to avoid that. You do everything for them. Trust and will make the whole process smooth and affordable. End result to give you peace of mind now and your surviving family members can get clarity in the future. Website to get started. Save 20% is trustinwill.com Clay they're experts in creating personalized trust and wills that protect your legacy. Visit trustandwill.com clay that's trustandwill.com clay keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast Clay and Buck Highlight Trump replays from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Tulsi Gabbard
We will go over 90,000 today. See how high it can possibly go. We're at 89k right now. Maybe we'll even get at 100,000 buck to do a TikTok day dance.
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Tulsi Gabbard
Yes.
Clay Travis
So IRS about to get a, get a haircut. Get a haircut, as they say. Tulsi Gabbard just dropping bombs from the White House podium on the, the coup, the, the soft coup attempt of the Obama slash Hillary apparatus. And they've referred Obama to the DOJ for prosecution. They are, they are digging in on this. They seem serious about this, clearly. And also some information, Clay, about Hillary Clinton having major health issues that were hidden from the American people. You can't give the Democrats any benefit of any doubt on that whatsoever because we know what they did with Joe Biden. They all knew he had dementia. They didn't care. You think If Hillary was racked with all kinds of health, not just health, but emotional and psychological health problems. What they're talking psycho emotional problems is what they're discussing here. That's from, that's a quote from Tulsi Gabbard Clay. Psycho emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of rage, for example. Oh, that's not a surprise with Hillary. You know, let's be honest. Right. So, yeah, this is, this is, this is getting interesting. You know, Barack Obama's team never responds to Trump stuff. They responded on this. They put out an official Obama statement saying, oh, it's all lies.
Tulsi Gabbard
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Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Episode: Hour 3 - KY Sen. Rand Paul
Release Date: July 23, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
Duration: Approximately 53 minutes
In this episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into the controversial revelations surrounding Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky. The primary focus is on Sen. Paul's perspectives regarding Tulsi Gabbard's recent press conference on Russiagate, allegations against Dr. Anthony Fauci, and insights into the Federal Reserve's financial activities.
The episode begins with references to Tulsi Gabbard's press conference where she alleges significant misconduct related to Russiagate. Tulsi presents documents suggesting that former President Barack Obama and his national security team fabricated intelligence assessments to undermine President Trump's legitimacy.
Notable Quotes:
"There is irrefutable evidence that details how President Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false."
— Tulsi Gabbard [28:31]
"They manufactured findings from shoddy sources, put forward a contrived false narrative that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help President Trump win."
— Tulsi Gabbard [28:31]
Senator Rand Paul addresses the ongoing frustration among constituents regarding the lack of accountability for high-profile figures like Dr. Anthony Fauci.
Notable Quotes:
"I referred Fauci twice under Biden. I presumed they would ignore it. But now I have referred him most recently just in the last week, to the Trump Department of Justice."
— Senator Rand Paul [06:04]
"He clearly lied to Congress... And I think in court, we need to have a test case to see if an autopen signature is a valid pardon."
— Senator Rand Paul [06:04]
Senator Paul criticizes the Federal Reserve’s recent $2 billion renovation of its Washington, D.C. headquarters, highlighting concerns over the Fed's financial autonomy and expenditures.
Notable Quotes:
"The Federal Reserve doesn't even have congressional oversight as far as the power of the purse. They just print it up."
— Senator Rand Paul [07:49]
"They're paying big banks not to loan money. Now they're paying them 4.4%, which equals $188 billion."
— Senator Rand Paul [07:49]
The conversation shifts to the challenges in the Senate confirmation process for judicial nominees, highlighting procedural inefficiencies exacerbated by partisan politics.
Notable Quotes:
"We've actually approved twice as many as we had in 2017 when Trump won. By this time in the summer of that first year, we had approved about 55. I think we're up over 110."
— Senator Rand Paul [11:41]
"It's laborious. But the good news is we've done twice as many as we did in 2017."
— Senator Rand Paul [11:41]
Senator Paul provides his analysis of Tulsi Gabbard's claims, expressing skepticism about the feasibility of prosecuting former President Obama but emphasizing the need for systemic reforms.
Notable Quotes:
"I'm for taking that power away. Intelligence agencies have the power to destroy individuals. There needs to be more checks and balances."
— Senator Rand Paul [16:29]
"What they did to Donald Trump should be a call, a clarion call for us to reform them and strip back their power."
— Senator Rand Paul [16:29]
The dialogue touches upon the challenges Sen. Paul faces in obtaining a Real ID, highlighting bureaucratic hurdles and personal frustrations.
Notable Quotes:
"It took me three months to get the damn real id and they kept refusing to give it to me because some of my documents said Randall and not Rand."
— Senator Rand Paul [18:15]
"We fought it for years in Kentucky, and finally they take away your right to travel. Apparently, the right to travel is a privilege."
— Senator Rand Paul [18:36]
Clay and Buck extensively discuss Tulsi Gabbard's allegations that the Obama administration fabricated intelligence to justify Russiagate and undermine President Trump. They explore the potential legal and political ramifications, including the challenges of prosecuting high-ranking officials due to existing legal immunities.
Notable Quotes:
"Barbara, that's big barrels. That's ok. Now I want to play this too."
— Tulsi Gabbard [29:55]
"They conspired to subvert the will of the American people who elected Donald Trump in that election... A years long coup against him and his administration."
— Tulsi Gabbard [35:30]
As the episode concludes, Clay and Buck reflect on the explosive nature of Tulsi Gabbard's revelations and their potential impact on American politics. They emphasize the importance of transparency and the need for systemic reforms within intelligence agencies to prevent future abuses of power.
Notable Quotes:
"This was within the scope of presidential power... it's really hard to prove knowledge in something like this."
— Senator Rand Paul [31:28]
"We think Obama's a crook, but he was president, so we can't do anything about it."
— Clay Travis [32:25]
Throughout the episode, Clay and Buck incorporate advertisements and promotional content for various products and services. These segments are excluded from the summary as per the instructions.
Conclusion:
This episode offers a deep dive into the contentious claims surrounding Russiagate, Sen. Rand Paul's perspectives on political accountability, and systemic issues within the Federal Reserve and Senate confirmation processes. The discussions highlight ongoing frustrations with perceived political biases and underscore the hosts' commitment to exploring and challenging prevailing political narratives.