Hour 3 - Made in the USA

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Hour 3 - "Made in the USA" Summary

Release Date: July 31, 2025
Hosts: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Guest: Dr. Oz and Commissioner Melissa Holyoke (FTC)

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1. Introduction and Overview

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton kick off the episode by encouraging listeners to subscribe to their podcast and YouTube channel, highlighting their rapid growth towards 100,000 subscribers. They introduce the main topic of the hour: "Made in the USA," focusing on American manufacturing, healthcare reforms, and consumer protection.

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2. Healthcare Reforms with Dr. Oz

Guest Introduction:
Clay introduces Dr. Oz, the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, praising his efforts within the Trump administration to tackle various healthcare issues.

a. Medicaid and the Big Beautiful Bill

Dr. Oz discusses the significant reforms introduced in the recent Medicaid bill, addressing common misconceptions and criticisms:

• Saving Medicaid: Contrary to claims that the bill aimed to cut Medicaid, Dr. Oz clarifies, "The one big beautiful bill saved Medicaid" (05:22).

• Work Requirements: He emphasizes the introduction of work requirements, echoing previous welfare reforms from the Clinton era, stating, "This bill creates a work requirement" (05:22). Dr. Oz asserts that these measures are designed to empower beneficiaries, encouraging them to engage in community activities, employment, or education.

• Addressing Chronic Diseases: He highlights that 90% of healthcare expenses stem from chronic diseases and mental illnesses, with loneliness being a significant contributing factor. "Loneliness... is the number one driver of all this" (02:23).

b. Drug Pricing Reforms

Clay raises concerns about the high cost of healthcare and pharmaceuticals in the U.S. compared to other countries. Dr. Oz responds by detailing the administration's actions to curb drug prices:

• Most Favored Nation Prescription Pricing: Dr. Oz explains the administration's strategy to ensure that U.S. drug prices do not exceed those in other countries. "We're going to get most drugs... to be most favored nation pricing" (07:59).

• Global Cooperation: He draws a parallel with NATO, stating, "Just like with NATO, we'll do the same thing with this most favored nation prescription drug pricing" (07:59).

c. Leveraging Technology in Healthcare

Buck Sexton inquires about the role of technology, including AI and robotics, in improving American healthcare under the Trump administration. Dr. Oz responds enthusiastically:

• Enhancing Patient-Doctor Interaction: "Technology is going to allow us to message you when you want to hear it... allow doctors to look at you in the eyes and talk to you instead of having a chart the whole time" (10:25).

• Reducing Administrative Costs: He highlights efforts to cut down on fraud, waste, and abuse, potentially saving billions in administrative costs. "We're going to be able to cut the fraud, waste and abuse out of the system that's destroying it" (10:25).

• Improving Rural Healthcare: Dr. Oz emphasizes the importance of extending quality healthcare to rural America, ensuring no community is left behind. "Technology especially AI, will let us talk to people in ways that we couldn't have before" (10:25).

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3. Consumer Protection and Fraud Prevention with Commissioner Melissa Holyoke

Guest Introduction:
Clay and Buck welcome Melissa Holyoke, Commissioner of the United States Federal Trade Commission (FTC), to discuss the agency's efforts in protecting consumers from fraud and enforcing fair trade practices.

a. Addressing Modern Frauds and Scams

• Sophisticated Scams: Commissioner Holyoke explains the evolution of frauds, noting the use of advanced technologies like voice cloning. "They use voice cloning technology... it sounds just like them" (24:22).

• Public Education: Emphasis is placed on educating consumers about these sophisticated fraud methods to prevent victimization. "We're trying to go out and educate consumers on some of these more sophisticated frauds" (24:22).

b. FTC's Enforcement Mechanisms

• Investigation Processes: Holyoke outlines how the FTC investigates fraud trends by analyzing complaints and issuing civil investigative demands. "We can move really fast in terms of freezing assets and going in" (24:37).

• Collaboration with Other Agencies: The FTC collaborates with the Department of Justice and other partners to address criminal aspects of fraud. "If we think there's a criminal component to it, we work with our criminal partners" (24:37).

c. Merger Oversight and "Made in the USA" Label Enforcement

• Merger Evaluation: Holyoke discusses the FTC's role in reviewing mergers to prevent monopolistic practices, ensuring they benefit consumers. "A lot of mergers provide benefits for consumers" (26:31).

• "Made in the USA" Label Rule: She highlights the enforcement of truthful advertising regarding products labeled as "Made in the USA," encouraging businesses to comply and consumers to report suspicious labels. "If folks are seeing problems Made in the USA labels... they can email us" (27:30).

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4. Listener Interactions and Lighthearted Banter

Throughout the episode, Clay and Buck engage in humorous exchanges and respond to listener comments:

• Nicknames and Family Stories: Buck shares the story behind his son's middle name, "Speed," connecting it to historical figures like Abraham Lincoln's attorney general, James Speed (18:31).

• Podcast Listener Stories: Listeners like Madeline from Harrisburg share anecdotes, leading to playful banter about double entendres and local stereotypes (15:46).

• Social Media Engagement: Clay discusses his Twitter interactions regarding Kamala Harris's political ambitions, highlighting the disconnect between his humor and listener interpretations (34:07).

• College Football Chat: A brief, lighthearted conversation about a college football game involving Bill Belichick and UNC Tar Heels adds a casual touch to the episode (37:37).

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5. Notable Quotes

• Dr. Oz on Loneliness and Healthcare:
  "Loneliness... is the number one driver of all this" (02:23).

• Dr. Oz on Medicaid Bill:
  "The one big beautiful bill saved Medicaid" (05:22).

• Dr. Oz on Drug Pricing:
  "We don't want brand prices in America costing three times the exact same product... as it costs in Europe" (07:59).

• Commissioner Holyoke on Modern Scams:
  "They use voice cloning technology... it sounds just like them" (24:22).

• Commissioner Holyoke on FTC's Role:
  "If there's a criminal component... we work with our criminal partners" (24:37).

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6. Conclusion

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton wrap up the episode by reiterating the importance of subscribing to their channels and staying informed through their discussions on pivotal topics like healthcare reform and consumer protection. They emphasize the ongoing efforts to support American manufacturing and protect consumers from evolving fraud schemes.

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Note: This summary excludes all advertisement segments, intros, outros, and non-content sections to focus solely on the substantive discussions and insights shared during the episode.

Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. You can also find us on YouTube as we are rapidly approaching 100,000 subscribers there and hopefully in the near future we'll be able to put all three hours of the program up on YouTube as well. So all of you can consume as much of this as you would like. Not only on video but audio as well. 97,000 subscribers by the way. Knock us over 100 if you would. We are joined now by Dr. Oz who does a fabulous job inside of the Trump administration, working on so many different issues out there. He is the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services and working to make health technology great again. There's a lot going on when it comes to to to the cost of of health care for sure. Dr. Oz, you've been dealing with it for your entire life. Are you optimistic about changes that you guys are going to be able to implement inside of the Trump administration? Part one and Part two? What should we expect to see? Thanks for coming on with us.

[Dr. Oz]

God bless you. I am optimistic. I'll as a doctor often has to. There's some bad news I should get out of the way first. Then we move to the growth. But we are spending twice as much per capita as any other country in the planet on our people. Our life expectancy despite that investment is now five years shorter than Europe. We're sicker. It's one of the reasons that we don't live as long and that we do have to pay more because of our chronic illness. This is why the Maha movement has gained such traction, because moms know that it's gotten really hard to be healthy in America. But the good News is that 90% of all the expenses, 90% of all the problems that I think we're facing both as paying for health care, but also being healthy is around chronic disease, which we have some control over, and mental illness. They work together. And I can say the number one driver of all this is probably loneliness, because if you're by yourself, there's no one to crutch on. We are social creatures. A good part of our brain power is reading the face and listening to the voice of people around us. And there are people right now making sense to play what you're saying just because they can hear subtle little intonations in your tone. So that all becomes hugely valuable. And when you lose that, you tend to become atomized, separate from everybody else. So part of the challenge in the Trump administration, and the President is very clear on this, is break the silos down, break down the barriers, and then use the power to convene. And by that he means, you know, allow people to know that you're serious, that you have a stick you'll use if you have to, but you'd rather use carrots to get them to work together on their own voluntarily. And that's what happened yesterday at the White House. The President hosted a wonderful event. It was the 60th anniversary, by the way, of the foundation of Medicare and Medicaid, the agencies that I run. And the president had 60 of the biggest technology companies and health care companies in America pledge promise they were going to do business differently. They're going to give the American people their medical records back. You own them, they're yours, you paid for them, you got the care that you needed, and there's information about that you should have access to. And so we are getting all these companies together and together going to make possible on your phone the ability to get information and advice about your well being, to get your doctor to be able to message you directly, may in fact make doctor's appointments, which is hard for a lot of Americans, and get the whole process to move forward in the 21st century like so many other sectors of the American economy have, with great productivity and success.

[Buck Sexton]

Dr. Oz, one of the things you're hearing a lot out there, or we're hearing a lot out There, I'm sure you do too, from people who are critical of Trump. Well, on everything, but particularly of the big beautiful bill has to do with throwing millions of people off of Medicaid. We are told, right. This is the talking point from the Democrats. Can you just break down what did the big beautiful bill do with respect to Medicaid and health care funding so that everyone can hear it from somebody who's living with these spreadsheets right in front of him?

[Dr. Oz]

The one big beautiful bill saved Medicaid, this beautiful program that was described by Hubert Humphrey as fulfilling our moral and government obligation to take care of those at the dawn of life, the children, those at the twilight of life, the seniors and those living in the shadows. Think about that metaphor. That's who was designed for back then, it never crossed anybody's mind that you would let an able bodied person live forever on Medicaid or without having to at least try to participate in the community. And every Democratic president, every Republican president has said the foundation of a social safety net is work. You're not supposed to just give people money and insurance. You're supposed to say here, this is something for you to get you back on your feet again so that together we can roll the oars and get society to be productive and get America to thrive. And that's what this bill did. It creates a work requirement. President Clinton in the 90s with welfare reform did this and it worked beautifully. Everyone applauds it as a huge success story. This time the president, our President Trump does it. Everyone criticizes the bill. It's wrong. This was an opportunity to give the American people who are trapped in Medicaid the belief that they matter, that they have autonomy on their life, they have agency. Give them a chance to get a job, to volunteer, to get educated, to participate as God gave them the right to do. We're all put on this planet to do something. And if you're going to watch 6.1 hours of television a day or just hang out, which is what's, that's the number, by the way, for people who are able bodied on Medicaid who aren't working, that's not a life. That's not what you're here for. And so I think this will be judged very and wisely as a wonderful contribution to getting America back on its feet again. We got twice as many jobs in this country as people willing to do them. Let's help people connect with the workforce. This makes that easy.

[Clay Travis]

Dr. Oz, I think one of the things that's incredibly Frustrating to so many people out there who spend so much money on their healthcare is we pay way more and we don't get the results that would suggest we should get based on what we're paying. In other words, when you look at life expectancy, our numbers are not great. Why are we getting gouged? And other wealthy countries, I understand why they don't charge as much in countries where people are vastly inferior in wealth. But Europe pays, for instance, way less than we do for many of the same drugs. Certainly Canada and Mexico, people go across the border to buy the same drugs for a fraction of the cost. I think that's one of the things that gets people the most fired up. I know you saw it when you ran for Senate. I'm sure you still hear it now.

[Dr. Oz]

Well, as always, what makes you so successful is your timely questions. Within the hour, the White House announced a most favored nation prescription price letter from the President going out to all the major companies addressing exactly what you just described. The gouging of the American people. And the original executive order that some may remember from a few months ago asked that this global freeloading stop. So here's what the President is saying to all the manufacturers and it's our job to go out there and non negotiate these prices. But he's saying from now on, we don't want brand prices in America costing three times the exact same product in the same box made in the same factory as it costs in Europe. And the metaphor for me is the NATO deal. So with NATO there's an external threat. The President said because it's an external threat, we all have to chip in, but we don't pay the whole bill in America, you guys have to chip in too. That happened as you know, with the exception of one country, all the European countries now are paying their fair share. He argues there's an internal threat as well, illness. Why is it that America cuts the bill for $130 billion of research and development in pharmaceutical products and then on top of that doing all the homework to get the drugs out, Then we pay most of the money that makes pharma profits. 70% of pharma profits are made in this country. This is not the right thing for the American people. Pharmaceutical industry knows that. They know this is coming. And the letter just went out literally being mailed as we speak. And our belief is that within several years we can get most drugs, the vast majority of these drugs, to be most favored nation pricing. It's going to be a huge asset to the American people to Governors trying to balance their state budgets. But it's also the right thing to do. It shows that America will carry the right load, but don't put it on us to cure all the cancer in the world. Chip in, help us out a little bit. Just like with NATO, we'll do the same thing with this most favored nation prescription drug pricing.

[Buck Sexton]

Dr. Oz, how do you foresee technology? We're in this age of rapidly advancing capabilities with AI and robotics and a whole range of tools that are already doing pretty marvelous things or showing marvelous possibility. How is technology going to be leveraged under this Trump administration, which obviously you're a part of it, on the health side, to improve Americans health, to find cures, to get us healthier.

[Dr. Oz]

The American people have been waiting too long. We've been waiting for, you know, to get the right information from the doctor's office days and days when it should have been immediately delivered. We've waited for these surprise bills from hospitals. We wait for access to our medical records just to see stuff that we paid for. And we've been waiting for Washington to take action. The commitments that the President made yesterday with all these companies pledging puts an end to this waiting. Technology is going to allow us to message you when you want to hear it about things going on in your life. It's going to allow doctors to look at you in the eyes and talk to you instead of having a chart the whole time because they got a code so they can short bill for the encounter. It's going to make it much easier for us to fast track things like prior authorization where you're trying to see if an insurance company is going to pay for something you thought you paid for. All that's going to become automated much faster. But the real benefit here, this is a critical point, is we're going to be able to cut the fraud, waste and abuse out of the system that's destroying it. Maybe $100 billion of administrative costs unnecessarily. You may have read last month with the Department of Justice we announced a $50 billion takedown because we're $1.8 trillion entity. We're double the size of the defense budget. And in order to get into our walls, there are security walls. You can use the numbers that all Medicare beneficiaries have, their membership number. And so foreign companies and countries, literally the $15 billion was a multinational criminal organization that I believe is based in Russia. I mean, these are massive operations trying to take us down. Technology is going to allow us to protect ourselves. But at its very core. The goal is not just to keep people alive, it's to get them to be vital, to get them to flourish. The value of an American who's healthy work is much, much greater than what it costs to treat them. But we have to actually get at those wonderful folks who are making mistakes about their lifestyle in a timely fashion. And technology especially AI, will let us talk to people in ways that we couldn't have before to literally babysit them through a process that they may be going through, which a doctor just won't do on their own. Just they don't have the time. And it also allows us to get the rural America which has been left behind and let that part of the country thrive. You should not have folks falling behind. Every American ought to be cared for with the dignity they deserve. It doesn't matter what zip code they're in.

[Buck Sexton]

Dr. Oz, appreciate you being with us, sir.

[Dr. Oz]

God bless you my friend. Stay well.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. Come up here a few seconds, A few minutes, rather not a few seconds. We'll talk to the commissioner of the Federal Trade Commission about what they're doing to protect all of you. A lot of scams out there, friends. A lot of sketchy stuff. And FTC has a mandate to bring the scammers to justice or at least to shut them down. So we'll talk to her about that, among other things. FTC may be up to. And we've got some great talkbacks coming in, let's say. Okay, we'll start with this one because I know we got Madeline. This is J.J. madeline from Harrisburg. Penns play it.

[Producer]

Hi, guys. There's something I wanted to share with you since boobs are back in the news. We were lucky enough to just return from a trip that included a stop in Krakator, Greenland. And one of the sculptures in that village, a stone sculpture in the Fisherman's Wharf, is of a boob. And it's named the most beautiful thing. It was done by an artist who did sculptures all over the village. Somehow when I heard this from the tour guide, I immediately thought of clay Travis. Can't imagine why.

[Buck Sexton]

That's nice. But what I'm like, I'm not sure. I see that you're the boob expert here. Like, you know, we, we all appreciate the female form. You know, like clay is.

[Clay Travis]

Well, there's a, there's a double. A double entendre there going on too, because a boob is also someone who is not particularly witty or with it. Right. A bit of a dullard. So I kind of wonder if Madeline was also undercutting me a little bit there because, yes, there's the physical object, but also someone is a boob if they are not particularly, you know, with it, so to speak. So I don't know, is that a subtle, A subtle double entendre that she.

[Buck Sexton]

Was like that talk back. It's like that talk back was a Booby trap.

[Clay Travis]

There you go. By the way, got a VIP email from Keith. He says Clay's wrong about Kamala running again. The big liberal donors want nothing to do with her. So he agrees with you there. However, this is a heck of a pivot in this email. I don't even know if you've seen this yet. No, I was right. Clay was right about diversity in strip clubs.

[Buck Sexton]

What is.

[Clay Travis]

What a pivot. What a pivot from Keith. Just covering all the bases. They're covering all the ground.

[Buck Sexton]

I love that this show.

[Clay Travis]

We really.

[Buck Sexton]

We have. We have quite a range here in our beloved audience from. From pastors and Sunday school teachers all the way over to strip club proprietors. You know, we got a whole range of people who listen and they might be welcome.

[Clay Travis]

This might be a good example of me being from Nashville because there was a time, I don't know if it's still true, where Nashville had the most churches and strip clubs per capita of any city in America.

[Buck Sexton]

I think Tampa has the most strip clubs per capita. Now, don't ask me why. I know that. I've really never been to.

[Clay Travis]

I would. I actually think that's probably true. They probably don't have the same number of churches as. As Nashville. But yeah, you could send on Saturday and then you could make it all up on Sunday. Very eas. Sometimes almost side by side.

[Buck Sexton]

Good heavens. Clay. Podcast listener June KK Talk back. Hit it.

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This nickname for your beautiful baby boy, Speed, is there a story behind that?

[Producer]

I know we all have nicknames for our children and just wondering if there's.

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A story behind the Speed.

[Buck Sexton]

Hey, June. It's actually not a nickname. It is his middle name. It is his name on his birth certificate. It's a family name. It is my Grant, my paternal grandmother's maiden name. And if you know the Speed Museum in Kentucky, it is that same family. In fact, Clay, I just had a genealogist based in Franklin do an official all the way back to the 17th century family trip.

[Clay Travis]

That's very cool.

[Buck Sexton]

And James Speed was Abraham Lincoln's attorney general and is a direct relative of that paternal grandmother. Family line, straight back. So that is where the. That is where the Speed name comes from. As well as Joshua Speed, who is a good friend of Abraham Lincoln. So it's a family name. Straight up family name. There you go. It's. It's my dad's middle name. Everyone calls my dad Speed. So we have Speed the elder and Speed the younger.

[Clay Travis]

Now that's awesome.

[Dr. Oz]

And.

[Clay Travis]

And if you missed it earlier, we had a special baby drop in. You can see it on video if you go subscribe to the YouTube channel. Three and a half month old baby boy visiting and started to show a little bit of for people out there who've been through the baby business for several months, you don't necessarily get a lot this you're starting to get a little bit of a feedback here which is those of you out there raise babies.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are joined now by Melissa Holyoke, Commissioner of the United States Federal Trade Commission. A lot going on in in that world as we break down all of the different, I would say just insanity that seems to be going on on a day to day basis. A lot of different mergers underway, a lot of different moving parts associated with the tariffs and everything else. You're new in the job. How has that been for you so far?

[Producer]

Oh well thank you. Thank you for having me on. I'm super excited to be here. Thanks Clay. The job has been wonderful. It's been amazing. We had a change in administration in January, so it's nice to finally have a positive agenda that we can implement. But like you said, things are changing every day. Lots of big things in our world. I think what's interesting is we get a lot of questions about tariffs and I will get a lot of questions about tariffs, but we don't even know the word trade is in our name. We don't necessarily do anything with tariffs other than see maybe some of the consequences of that. So we don't negotiate those or enforce those. So what we're looking at, what the Federal Trade Commission does is protect American consumers in the United States mostly from fraudsters and scammers and like you said, from anti competitive behavior. And we look at mergers in the world and see what's happening with companies and we want to protect Americans from monopolists as well.

[Buck Sexton]

What are some of the. Thank you for being with us, Commissioner. It's Buck. What are some of the primary frauds? You know, one thing that we have a great sponsor on the show that deals with identity theft and one thing that I've seen is just how sophisticated some of these efforts are to do that. It's really, it used to be somebody would send you an email saying, you know, I'll give you $1,000,000 if you give me 10,000. And unfortunately that would work far too often. But it's a little bit, a little bit on the, on the obvious side. Now they're getting really good at pretending to be from a bank or I mean what are the kind of scams or the kind of things the FTC is focused in on policing these days?

[Producer]

That's such a great question. I mean, because that is a majority of our work and what we want to focus on and fraud has just growing and growing. Last it was $10 billion a couple of years ago and now it's grown 25% to over 12 billion. And it's what we want to focus on on every day. So and what we're seeing, like you said, is we're seeing lots of sophisticated frauds and the use of different technologies. So one of those examples is they use voice cloning technology. So you'll have a grandma in the middle of the night get a call from what sounds exactly like her grandson saying I'm in jail, I need money. Send this to me here. And it sounds just like them. And those are the kinds of really concerning types of fraud where it folks, everyone can would get duped from it. Not just it does, it's a lot more sophisticated than some of the things that we've seen in the past. And we're trying to go out and educate consumers on some of these more sophisticated frauds.

[Buck Sexton]

What are the enforcement mechanisms like when you find something that's going on? I mean, you're not the FBI, right? So what enforcement mechanisms does the FTC have access to? And how does that process work? Like when you find the fraudsters, then what?

[Producer]

Great question. So what we do is a lot of the times we're looking at trends of frauds. So we have a really large database that, that we have that many, many states have access to, and we look at complaints that are coming in. I think one, one thing that I want to, if I could get a message out, one thing is to make sure to report the fraud. We have a website that says that, where you can report the frauds, and we take those complaints and we start from there and able to. And in order to do investigations, we can, we will issue civil investigative demands. If we think there's a criminal component to it, we work with our criminal partners. We will go reach out to the Department of Justice or others, estate partners, U.S. attorneys and districts across the country and work with them if those are. Those types of criminal components are applicable to.

[Buck Sexton]

So basically you can flag something for doj and then DOJ can actually make it a criminal matter if that's the kind of fraud you're talking about.

[Producer]

Exactly. But we don't have to stop just because there might be a criminal component. A lot of times we can move really fast in terms of freezing assets and going in and making sure, like to stop the bleeding and basically have those assets available if and when we can get some money back to consumers.

[Clay Travis]

One of the biggest challenges, I would imagine, in the merger space is technology and the fact that this thing is moving so rapidly, whether it's AI or elsewhere, that we typically think of monopoly power as something that leads to higher prices. But in the universe that we're in now, some of these huge tech companies are arguing that when they are merging, when they are buying new assets, it's actually leading to lower prices. How do you balance all this out? Because the tech universe has definitely maybe upset the apple cart of what monopolistic power truly looks like.

[Producer]

I think that's so important that we're actually analyzing what the harms are. Like you said, we have mergers that we look at so many mergers that get filed and we get notification of them. But in the vast majority of them, like literally 98% of cases, there's no real problem there in terms of the merger. And in fact, a lot of mergers provide benefits for consumers. And so what we want to do is make sure we're getting out of the way if there are mergers out there that can really provide benefits, because the faster that they can move, the. The better and quicker that those benefits can go to consumers. And then in the smaller amount of cases. Yes. We'll take a second look in those 2% of cases to see what's happening. But like you said in tech and in big tech, these are extremely dynamic markets. Things are changing all the time and we want to be analyzing them correctly. So we're not providing or we're not preventing any benefits that consumers could enjoy.

[Clay Travis]

Outstanding stuff. Well, look, we need you back. I know you got a lot to get on involved in because we've got what the, the big rail merger that they're talking about right now. I'm sure you're going to be diving into so many of these different cases, so many of these different decisions. Just keep us on speed dial. We want you on to be able to bring us up to speed on so many of these different issues going forward. Congratulations on hopefully being able to get a lot more done now with the new administration.

[Producer]

Well, I appreciate that so much. I love the work that I'm doing. It's very important. I will say one thing that is that if I can just leave with a few last moments thoughts related to the tariffs. I think there's just been this real reinvigoration of American manufacturing, American exceptionalism. And the one thing that the FTC has been focusing on in the month of July is the Made in the USA label rule and our enforcement efforts there. And if folks are looking and they're seeing problems Made in the USA labels that they just don't that are suspect to them, they can email [e-mail] but we also work with businesses. So if businesses are trying to comply with the law and want to make sure that they are advertising truthfully and really working with consumers on that, they can also email us because lots of people plug in for that.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, lots of people sadly do try and lie about the Made in the usa. We've done reading and studies on that. So I'm glad that you can be on top of it because obviously is something that many people want to be able to spend their money on.

[Producer]

Yes, absolutely.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

All right, we're closing up shop today on Clay and Buck, so we'll get some more talkbacks, calls, emails galore, all that stuff. But also remind you, please subscribe to the YouTube channel. Go to YouTube.com and go to @clay&buck Is the account at Clay and Buck and let's do it. Well, actually, let's do this Nancy Pelosi thing. Nancy Pelosi was on the was on with Fake Tapper over at cnn and here is how that went when she was asked about insider trading allegations. Let's play it.

[Clay Travis]

This afternoon President Trump mentioned you and he made an allegation about your investments. Let me just read what he said. Nancy Pelosi became rich.

[Producer]

I might have to read that. We're here to talk about the 60th anniversary of Medicaid. That's what I agreed to come to talk about.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, but I wanted to what that.

[Producer]

Means in the election.

[Clay Travis]

I wanted to give you a chance just to respond. He accused you of insider trading. What's your respons to that?

[Producer]

That's ridiculous. In fact, I very much support the stop the, the trading of members of Congress. I'm not into it. My husband is. But it isn't anything to do with anything inside.

[Buck Sexton]

I like how Pelosi is just like, Jake, you're here to do my bidding. Like, shut your face. I'm talking about something else. This is nonsense. Like, the whole notion that CNN even exists to do journalism anymore is laughable to everybody, including Democrats. Pelosi is like, jake, what do you think you are? You think this is an interview? You're, you're a stenographer for power. Shut your face.

[Clay Travis]

I think it is very funny that she lectured him because she says she didn't agree to come on and talk about that topic. I can't remember. And producer Ali, you probably have been asked about this sometime. I don't think we ever do it. People can say, hey, we'd like to talk about this new bill, right? Hey, I want to come on. Like, you know, we get pitched guests all the time. That probably doesn't stun you. I don't know if you ever had this. When I did sports, there would often be an arrogance about the pitch and they would say, but you can't ask coach about X or you can't ask player about Y. And I would always say uniformly, why would I ever have somebody on who thought that they could dictate what questions could be asked? And so I think Nancy Pelosi showed you how often Democrats do feel. Like when they go on cnn, for instance, they can say, hey, we want to go on. We want to talk about this topic, Medicare, 60th anniversary. But we don't want to actually talk about anything else. Um, and I, I do think that's interesting. Lee, I got a funny one for you here, Buck, as we finish up shop. Yesterday, after we went off the air, Kamala Harris announced that she wasn't going to be running for governor of California, as we've talked about on the program. And I hopped on Twitter and I said, smart of Kamala not to run for governor of California. Democrats definitely need to nominate her again in 2028 for president. Great candidate. Voters just didn't have enough time to get to know her. In 24, she'll be phenomenal in 28. I thought, okay, that's very sarcastic. Everybody will get it. But just to be clear, I also said she should also pick Tim Walls as vp. Again, guy just oozes masculinity. Men didn't get to see him enough. In 24. In 28, men will support this ticket in big numbers. Remum. Remember, he runs a mean pick six play. Guy's a stud. Lots of Democrats are now in my mentions thanking me for speaking up for Kamala Harris. The jokes just went completely over their head.

[Buck Sexton]

So they're gonna be, they're gonna be real sad when they tune into this show expecting Clay Travis, male feminist and Kamala Harris fan.

[Clay Travis]

So again, we had that discussion. Poll question was up. Do we think she'll run in 28. Buck, you have won the day's poll question. There are thousands of you that have voted 60% no, she does not run. 40% say yes, she will run. For those of you who missed it, I said that I thought she would. Let's see. Sharon, caller. Yeah, Sharon in New Hampshire. What you got for us?

[Producer]

So, two things. I really appreciate that last segment because my mother was a victim of that middle of the night scary scam. And then I just really have a question regarding your pronunciation of many words, but particularly appreciate.

[Clay Travis]

Appreciate.

[Buck Sexton]

I appreciate, appreciate, appreciate.

[Clay Travis]

I, I, I thank you for. I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Look, I, I, I am a, I talk like normal people talk. Sometimes I even use words that I don't know how to pronounce. And, and this is I, I guess in, in New Hampshire, they do. I need to talk to kings. They appreciate. I appreciate you. I appreciate you. I'm not, look, I'm not Kamala Harris here pretending as if I grew up in New Hampshire, where you're going to be walking around hearing me sound like, again, like I was saying earlier that I am a lobsterman from the, from New England, everyone.

[Buck Sexton]

Not a lot of lobsterman in New Hampshire. I think they got about 30, 30 miles of coastline, Clay.

[Clay Travis]

But the ones they have in New Hampshire are good. My understanding is everybody in the whole state of Maine, all they do is catch a lobster.

[Buck Sexton]

And they sit around and eat lobster all the time.

[Clay Travis]

They catch lobster and they eat it. That is 99.9% of their gross domestic product is just straight lobster, which I appreciate.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's a Nashvillians view of you Mainers out there. Dd podcast listener in Outer Banks, famous now because of the show. Eddie, let's play it Hello.

[Dr. Oz]

The game to be watching this college football season. What's Labor Day evening? The University of North Carolina Tar Heels and Bill Belichick entertain Texas Christian University.

[Buck Sexton]

The whole college football world will be.

[Dr. Oz]

Watching Coach B's debut.

[Producer]

ESPN is sending its a game crew there as well.

[Dr. Oz]

That's the one you need to attend.

[Clay Travis]

Okay.

[Buck Sexton]

Is he still dating the, the grad student or whatever? Is that still happening?

[Clay Travis]

Grad student is being very kind to her, I think. I'm not. She's old enough to be a grad student yet. Yes, She's Bill Belichick, 73 years old, has a 24 year old girlfriend. Which actually to me Buck is a question. Do you think you will pay attention to how Bill Belichick does it? North Carolina, because in general you don't care much about college football because of the 24 year old girlfriend storyline. Cause ESPN, my understanding is eight of the UNC. He's the North Carolina UNC. Chapel Hill, they're calling him Chapel Bill. He is their head coach. I think they're going to be enormous audience for him in a way that wouldn't have happened if he weren't dating. It would still people would have cared. But I think the girlfriend has actually aided the amount of interest in his coaching debut. Does you think that's true? Will you pay attention to this at all?

[Buck Sexton]

I mean did the Taylor Swift thing help that Kelsey guy viewing immensely.

[Dr. Oz]

Right.

[Buck Sexton]

So then, then I would just base it on that. I would say, I would say yes, probably.

[Clay Travis]

I think there's lots of women out there that don't care at all about UNC football and I think they will pay attention more because of the 24 year old relationship. Meaning she's 24, he's 73 and maybe that I, I'm curious if ESPN will show her because you know she'll be at the game. It's actually a huge part of the story now. Or will that be a controversy over whether they show her in the crowd and all these things? This is the kind of thing I think about and I appreciate, I appreciate all of you A Appreciate. How are you supposed to say it? I appreciate y'.

[Dr. Oz]

All.

[Buck Sexton]

I just like you just keep saying it the funny way. I like the funny way you say it.

[Clay Travis]

I appreciate y'.

[Dr. Oz]

All.

[Clay Travis]

I do. I appreciate y'.

[Dr. Oz]

All.

[Clay Travis]

I, I evidently I, I'm done for in the New Hampshire primary. Evidently nobody will vote for me. That's why I'm going to start all.

[Buck Sexton]

The, all the lobster fishermen are going to vote.

[Clay Travis]

I'm going to go start lobster fishing. Now that's what I'm on.

[Producer]

This is an I heart podcast.