Hour 3 - Make America Eat Healthy Again

Summary

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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 3 – “Make America Eat Healthy Again”

Date: February 26, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Special Guest: Dr. Marty Makary (FDA Commissioner)

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Episode Overview

In this third hour, Clay and Buck address a mix of current events, sports controversies, and health policy—anchored by an in-depth interview with FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary. The segment navigates political and cultural divides (particularly in sports), U.S.-Cuba tensions, and the government’s evolving stance on food, medicine, and public health. The unifying theme is the intersection of politics, culture, and health—seen in how the media, government, and big institutions approach what Americans eat, how they medicate, and even how they play and consume sports.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sports Media, Politics, and the U.S. Hockey Team

[02:41–12:29]

• Controversy Recap:
  The U.S. men’s hockey team came under fire for visiting Donald Trump at the White House, sparking outrage in sports media and among Democratic detractors.

• Public Reaction in New Jersey:
  At a New Jersey NHL game, the crowd greeted the team with overwhelming chants of “USA!” and booed Democrat Governor Mikey Sherrill, showing a disconnect between elite outrage and regular fans.

• Speaker Quotes:

  • “The vast majority of Americans love the U.S. men's hockey team ... sports media and Democrats ... are actually in no way representative of actual Americans.” – Clay Travis [05:27]
  • “How is it ... sports media are somehow immune from consequences of their woke idiocy when clearly a lot of sports fans are not into that?” – Buck Sexton [07:21]

• Media Analysis:
  Clay posits that a shift in sports journalism since the Colin Kaepernick kneeling incident has led to hyper-partisan coverage. He argues social media and commoditization of information have devalued traditional reporting, leading to an echo chamber of mostly left-leaning opinions to preserve media jobs.

• Memorable Quote:

  • “Most of them have no value ... being left wing was a way to try to preserve your job.” – Clay Travis [09:40]

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2. The Cuba Incident and U.S. Policy

[13:35–18:02]

• Incident Recap:
  Clay and Buck discuss a little-covered story of Americans killed by the Cuban military off Cuba’s coast. They review both official accounts and alternative explanations (accident, provocation, possible Gulf of Tonkin-style incident).
  • Clay: “We should just take over Cuba. I am past ... this ridiculousness with them, 90 miles off the coast from us." [15:58]
• Political Take:
  Buck notes many in South Florida would agree with a pro-democracy intervention, highlighting longstanding U.S.–Cuba tensions.

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3. Interview with FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary

[24:27–39:05]

FDA Reforms & Speeding Up Drug Approval

• Operation Warp Speed:
  • Dr. Makary announces new drugs approved in record time (44 days), emphasizing efficiency and urgency for cures.
    • “We have an announcement today of a new drug that was approved in 44 days. ... We’re doing things at operation warp-speed-like speed.” – Dr. Makary [25:43]
• Rare Diseases:
  • New incentives encourage pharma companies to pursue treatments for rare diseases, affecting 1 in 11 Americans. The "plausible mechanism pathway" allows approval without randomized trials for ultra-rare diseases.
    • “It’s not actually rare ... if you add it up.” – Dr. Makary [27:11]

Peptides, Weight Loss Drugs, and New Treatments

• GLP-1s and Peptides:
  • Discussion on the explosion of drugs like Ozempic and "gray area" peptides not fully FDA approved but widely used.
    • “Peptides is a big tent ... some are effective, some are not ... we’d like to see the data.” – Dr. Makary [29:08]
• FDA’s Stance:
  • The FDA cracks down only on “copycat” drugs that bypass its process, otherwise allowing broad research.

Food Supply, Nutrition, and the MAHA Movement

• School Lunches & Food Guidance Reform:
  • The FDA is rewriting food guidance based on “real science," encouraging protein and healthy fats, not avoiding them.
    • “We rewrote the food pyramid because the open secret was that old food pyramid was corrupt.” – Dr. Makary [30:31]
  • SNAP and school lunch programs are shifting away from supporting sugary and ultra-processed foods.

Childhood Allergies

• Rising Allergies:
  • Childhood food allergies (esp. peanuts) have risen sharply.
    • Dr. Makary attributes this to outdated medical advice to avoid allergens early, advising early and sustained introduction instead.
    • “You can significantly, by over 80%, reduce the risk of your kid developing one of these allergies through early and sustained introduction.” – Dr. Makary [33:54]
• Parent Guidance:
  • FDA roundtables now educate parents on best practices.

COVID Retrospective & Public Health

• COVID Lessons:
  • Reflects on disastrous pandemic responses—school closures, masking, constant boosters—now walking back earlier policies.
    • “What a disaster the public health response was to Covid ... Cloth masks on toddlers for three years.” – Dr. Makary [35:43]
  • Newer guidance focuses on essential vaccines and precise, data-driven approaches.

Major Health Priorities

• Goals Under Trump Administration:
  • Cures for type 1 diabetes, treatments for stage four cancer, better PTSD solutions, and a universal flu shot.
  • “We want to see a cure for type 1 diabetes ... a powerful treatment for stage four cancer ... a universal flu shot.” – Dr. Makary [37:17]
• Communication:
  • The FDA is ramping up transparency via social media and public roundtables.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Let their voices be heard, even in a blue state like New Jersey.” – Clay Travis [11:40]
• “There's a lot of people in South Florida ... they're ready for a free Cuba to actually be a thing and not just a drink.” – Buck Sexton [17:23]
• “I want every parent to know you can ... reduce the risk of your kid developing ... these allergies through early and sustained introduction.” – Dr. Makary [34:00]
• “What a disaster the public health response was to Covid ... Cloth masks on toddlers for three years.” – Dr. Makary [35:43]
• Comic relief: Ongoing jokes about Clay’s bench press maximum and “El Commandante” persona for a hypothetical Cuba takeover.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Segment | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------| | 02:41 | U.S. Hockey Team backlash and sports media politics | | 06:35 | Player comment: Focus on winning, not controversy | | 12:29 | Arena audio: “USA” chants and response to controversy | | 13:35 | Cuba incident: Americans killed offshore | | 15:58 | Clay advocates U.S. intervention in Cuba | | 24:27 | FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary joins | | 25:43 | Accelerated drug approvals at FDA | | 27:11 | Rare disease drug incentives & pathways | | 29:08 | Peptides, weight loss drugs, FDA policy | | 30:31 | School lunches, nutrition guidelines, and SNAP reforms | | 31:44 | Rising childhood allergies & modern parenting guidance | | 33:54 | Public health communication & transparency | | 35:43 | COVID reflections and vaccine updates | | 37:17 | Major FDA priorities under current administration |

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Conclusion

The episode weaves together cultural, political, and health narratives, anchored by a candid interview with Dr. Marty Makary. The hosts' trademark blend of humor and cultural critique underlines broader arguments about authenticity, the disconnect between elites and “real America,” and the need for government institutions (especially the FDA) to adapt more quickly, communicate openly, and focus on real-world outcomes. 

Whether discussing nutrition, rare disease cures, sports controversies, or geopolitical flashpoints, Clay and Buck push for transparency, common sense, and a return to what they see as traditional American values—while maintaining a playful, conversational tone throughout.

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Transcript

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

BUCK SEXTON SHOW we got a bunch we're following. Just so you know. FDA Commissioner Marty McCary will be on with us at the bottom of the hour. Brendan Carr, FCC commissioner, was on with us in the past hour. Hillary Clinton testifying in the continued Epstein imbroglio, however you want to define that. Bill Clinton scheduled for tomorrow. Mortgage rates have fallen to a four year low. If you are going to be in the housing market this spring or summer, congrats at least compared to the past four years, mortgage rates under 6% on the 30 year dropping to 5.98%. Now let's see. And that is where we are. Iran News. We're gonna dive into Iran in a big way tomorrow to see whether or not we think there is going to be an attack that takes place in the near future as talks have basically ended in the Middle east there. What do you think's gonna happen, Buck?

[Buck Sexton]

Are we gonna start a war with Iran? Is really the question. Let's just put it out there. I, I think the answer is no, but I wouldn't bet a steak dinner on it, that's for sure.

[Clay Travis]

We've also got, and we were talking about this off air, a strange story out of Cuba that we may dive into here in a moment where a bunch of Americans were killed by Cuban army forces off the coast of Cuba. We'll get into that for a sec. But I wanted to give props to the state of New Jersey, not necessarily happening all the time on the show. I know we have a lot of New Jersey listeners and last night was the first opportunity for NHL fans to react to the U.S. men's hockey team that have been attacked. I think honestly, kind of mercilessly, for visiting with Trump, for going to the White House, for laughing at his jokes, all of those things. And last night was the first time that real Americans had an opportunity to tell you what they thought about this whole controversy in quotation marks. And here was what that sounded like. First of all, let me grab it here. I believe we have do we have the audio of what it sounded like when they came out onto the ice in New Jersey? I thought we did. We've got a bunch of different story clips here, but I don't guess we have that one. And also, can we grab that? Then we'll play it before the end of the hour. Producer Greg if you can get the audio of Mikey Sherrill, the new Democrat governor of New Jersey, being booed in an uproarious fashion when she came out onto the ice, and also of Jack Hughes as he addressed the crowd and the cheering and the USA chance and everything else going on. I think the big story here that we are clearly seeing is that the vast majority of Americans love the U.S. men's hockey team and all of the sports media and all of the Democrats that have tried to be outraged over jokes and over all of the sundry aspects of, of this story are actually in no way, in no way representative of actual Americans. And I do think. And when you see the way that this response occurred in New Jersey, it is a pretty strong sign of exactly how everything, everything went. I will say, well, let's, let's cut 18. As a women's hockey player, Caroline Harvey and Layla Edwards, they just have spent a lot of time trying to make these women feel offended. And to a large extent, they are not willing to do so. Here's cut 18.

[Buck Sexton]

We're just glad to be coming home with a gold medal again. I mean, we're focused on being successful as a group and going over there taking care of business. And I mean, it's not something we're focused on or really thinking about. We're moving forward. And yeah, we did what we did there and we're proud of our group, so. And what happened is something we had no control over and we take so

[Dr. Marty Makary]

much pride in what we did and

[Buck Sexton]

we love our group that we're not gonna let anything take that from us.

[Clay Travis]

So the sports media losing whatever small shred of trust that they had in the, in the larger sports fan ecosystem because they are just obsessively left wing and buck. This is one of the things I would say you learned when you started working for me is that these sports media are, I mean, they're further left in the political media.

[Buck Sexton]

How is that possible? Meaning, how is it that they are somehow immune from the consequences of their woke idiocy when clearly a lot of sports fans are not into that? Is it just. Is it really. Is it just. ESPN is so powerful and creates such a, like, reverberation through the sports commentary ecosystem that they, you know, and other places follow suit. And so it's just corporate kind of has their back. It can't be.

[Clay Travis]

It's a great question. And I've spent years grappling with it because it really didn't exist until Colin Kaepernick took a knee. And when Colin Kaepernick took a knee, suddenly, and I know a lot of you have experienced this, every single thing in the culture of sports became hyper partisan and hyper political. And what I think certainly social media, as it exposed many political journalists, it has exposed a lot of other people. But I think to a big extent, Buck, it is. And this is sort of a business analysis. It is the taking away of power of individual sports writers. Let me give you an example. When you were growing up, if you wanted to go read local sports news, you could get the New York Post, you could get the New York Daily News, you could get the New York Times, whatever local newspapers existed in your community. And every one of those writers had information that you didn't know. So if you love the Knicks or you loved the Giants or the jets, you could sit down and hear what coaches and players said. And it was almost always straight sports stories. You know, it was, hey, how healthy is the quarterback? What do we think about the new linebacker? You know, those kind of stories and the. Everyone in those press conferences had a value. Now, there is no value because news is commodified and it's instantaneously out there. And I think there's a desperate seeking of the sports media to justify their jobs. And the reality is most of them have no value. And I'm not trying to be insulting to them, but they just like.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, they're basically worthless. Like, do something else.

[Clay Travis]

Well, I mean, think about it like, I've got my yellow legal pad here.

[Buck Sexton]

Right?

[Clay Travis]

Back in the day, in 2008, you could get your legal pad out. And what someone told you that you could then write in a newspaper was newspaper that wouldn't have otherwise existed. And so you had a commodity. Information that was rare information now is instantly out and available. Most of these reporters have no value for it. So what they. What is desired is opinion. But most of them are boring and not very interesting. And so you end up in a world where you have thousands of sports media writers and probably there needs to be like 50 that are actually doing really interesting good work. And I think AI is going to vanish so many of these jobs because I can write better than most sports journalists can, and it can do it instantaneously for virtually no cost. So that happened then. I think, to your point, being left wing was a way to try to preserve your job. And if you weren't left wing, it was a Way to lose your job. And so you just end up with this echo chamber of one take, the left wing take being amplified everywhere. And I think people are just now learning it. And again, I would say whatever you think about Outkick, it's far from. I mean, the site that I found, it's not perfect, but it's the fact that it's the only sports media company in the United States that would say men shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports is a sign of just how taken over by one view the sports media is. There was and is still no Fox News of sports. There isn't. I think there should be now, sadly, but there isn't, you know, the counterpunch to actually provide an alternative to the mainstream hegemony. So I think as a result, this story is really kind of exposed it in a big way. And I think most people would just like to go back to the 80s, the 90s, the early 2000s, when everybody could agree that the US men's hockey team is awesome and that it's good to visit the President. And it's not going to be remotely controversial associated with it. And I think most people believe it, but the sports media is doing their best to try to make it seem that that's not true. So I think it's important, thanks to this platform and others that we push back on it. But I loved the audio. If we can get it where you have 20,000 people in an arena, let them vote. Let their voices be heard, even in a blue state like New Jersey. Okay, let's go to this. Let's play. We'll come back and we'll play some of that audio for you. But let me, let me go to this because I want to get your take and I'll, I'll set us up here. What? Well, hold on. We've got now the audio of Jack Hughes. Cut 35. Guys, if we could play that, this

[Buck Sexton]

is what it sounded like.

[Clay Travis]

So there he is. That's a USA chant in the background. People said, oh, he's gonna have significant fallout for the comments and for going to visit the White House of the State of the Union. And then he skates out on the ice in New Jersey and the whole arena as one chance. Usa. Usa. Usa. And so we'll play eventually the booing of the Democrat governor, Mikey Sherrill. But let me go to cut one here, Buck. Cause I want to set the table and get start to get your take here. What do you think about this story coming out of Cuba Cut one, I believe, discussing these Americans that were killed at sea off the shore. As it stands now, the Department of Homeland Security, the Coast Guard, others are involved. The majority of the information we still possess is what Cuban authorities are providing

[Dr. Marty Makary]

both to public and the US Government.

[Clay Travis]

We have our embassy on the ground in Havana working this as we speak, asking for access to the people that were on those vessels, if they were American citizens or permanent residents, according to the Cuban regime. The boat was registered in Florida.

[Dr. Marty Makary]

We're tracking that down.

[Clay Travis]

We will know shortly, and we will know quickly many more facts about this incident than we know. We're going to find out exactly what

[Dr. Marty Makary]

happened here, and then we'll respond accordingly.

[Clay Travis]

Buck, what's going on? This is a weird story. It hasn't gotten as much attention. I saw it, I read it. It just doesn't add up that Cuba would suddenly kill a bunch of Americans off the shore.

[Buck Sexton]

So I've seen a lot of theories around this, and nobody really is that confident in what they think happened here. A few things that come to mind. One is that Cuba is in a really precarious place right now, even for Cuba. So to do anything that is antagonistic toward the United States, which this clearly is, seems very unwise. Which then brings up a little bit of a. Yeah, a little. Brings up a little bit of a. I mean, Marco Rubio is like pretty much measuring the drapes in Raul Castro's office or Diaz Canel, who's technically running it, but Caster kind of still runs. Raul runs it behind the scenes. The other side of this is a little bit of a Gulf of Tonkin vibe, maybe. I'm not saying. I'm not saying that it was necessarily, but I'm not saying it wasn't either. Where all of a sudden there's some incident. Maybe people are doing a little close recon or something and a little bit off book, if you will. They get shot up and now it's, oh, it's on. So those are the things that come to mind. So not a drug boat. Why would Cuba shoot up a drug boat? Makes no sense if it's just tourists. Why would they shoot up a boat of tourists? That's just going to the point about antagonize a US Flagged ship. Antagonize us some. There's something up here. That's. That's what I think. Unless there is always the possibility of extreme stupidity on the other side. And you shouldn't forget that. I mean, it is possible, I guess, that there just happened to be a boat that Got too close and some Cuban border guards lit it up and killed a bunch of people. That's possible, but it's quite a coincidence given the situation going on right now of Cuba overall. That's where I am on this.

[Clay Travis]

I'm going to say it and some people are going to be mad about me saying it. We should just take over Cuba. I am, I am past. It's been 70 years of basically ridiculousness with them 90 miles off the coast from us huge numbers of Cubans have fled and continue to flee to the United States. The population is down to eight and a half million or whatever it is. Now there is a Supreme Court case that is actually very interestingly timed buck on the seizure of American assets. As you know, I didn't remember this. I was doing reading on this. 90% of basically all Cuban industry was US owned at the time that they seized every asset in Cuba. In other words, back in 1958 or whatever year the Cuban revolution officially took over all of that was US assets. We should make Cuba basically a default US territory once again. And I think we should just end this ridiculousness. They have no military, they have no ability to fight back. Wipe out the communist government once and for all and, and let's have capitalism in Cuba. And I think it would thrive, I think it would flourish. And I think the interaction between the Cuban people in the United States and the Cuban people in Havana would be very positive. I'm over the ridiculousness. Let's just do it.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. I mean, Clay, there's a lot of people in South Florida who agree with you that I know they're, they're ready for a free Cuba to actually be a thing and not just a drink.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I know. It just, it feels like a no brainer to me. I don't want us to screw around and just keep this government hanging on by their fingernails. They have no ability to stay in power. Now let's wipe them out once and for all and put in a capitalist free Cuba that is an ally of the United States. And in once and for all, the idea of China or Russia being able to have a satellite country off the border of our.

[Dr. Marty Makary]

Of. Of.

[Clay Travis]

Of Key west, effectively. Let's do it. I think now's the time.

[Buck Sexton]

Absolutely. Clays. El Commandante, he's ready to, ready to lead the charge here.

[Clay Travis]

We can give Marco Richard another job. He could be the President of Cuba too.

[Buck Sexton]

If you're going to be El Commandante though, we got to go back to mustache. Clay.

[Clay Travis]

Bearded.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't know. Does Bearded Clay lead the charge in Cuba? Does Bearded Clay go to San Juan Hill? This Bearded Clay get? I think we need Mustache Clay for that job. I'm just saying. All right, we've all had Israel in our thoughts the past couple of years. How can you not when you've followed the stories of the Hamas attacks, the hostages taken, the ongoing attacks on their population by three different hostile forces? When life in Israel has calmed a bit, there are so many people still recovering and in need, and with Iran threats looming, it remains an uneasy time. One organization that continues to pay attention to the most vulnerable parts of the Israeli population is the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. The IFCJ was formed decades ago to build a bridge between Christians who choose to practice their faith by helping the less fortunate and Jewish communities worldwide that need assistance and support. At a time when Jewish communities are experiencing more hostility, more threats and more violence than ever, Christians have a powerful opportunity to say we've got your back by making a donation to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, an organization doing so much for so many Israeli residents in need. You're empowering the IFCJ to help those in Israel. Learn how you can bless Israel and be blessed in return. Go online today. Visit ifcj.org that's ifcj.org news and politics,

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

to Clay and Buck. We'll be talking to FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty McCary here shortly, which I have so many things to talk to him about. The whole MAHA movement in America is so important. It is truly literally important to our health. And so I got, I got a lot of questions we're going to have to ask him. What do we have to do for Clay Travis? What do we have to put in Clay's stack so that he too can bench 315 like Pete Hegseth? I mean, I just need to know

[Clay Travis]

what can we I don't think I have the physical ability. I think I don't Think I can get that high?

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a lot. 3:15 is a lot, I got to say so. But maybe Clay, you know, there's new things coming out all the time. There's new and exciting things.

[Dr. Marty Makary]

I'm not.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Dr. Marty Makary]

Good to be with you guys.

[Buck Sexton]

So we have so many questions to throw your way, and one of them that I wanted to ask you about actually has to do with the status of getting things expedited on the approval side of, of the equation here. What are. Last time we talked to you, this was something that was a focus of yours and even using AI to move faster on this. What can you tell us about now that we're a year in? Tell us about the FDA approval pipeline being more efficient, moving faster, not delaying. I mean, I'm here in Florida and people are already talking all the time about Reddit, True Tide Doc, which is the G, you know, the next generation of glp. This is all the rage down here. People are already talking. And I go, hold on, it's not even FDA approved yet. And a lot of people go, yeah, well, if the FDA is slow. And I go, whoa, hold On a second. What's happening here? Is it going fast? Is it going faster? What's happening?

[Dr. Marty Makary]

Well, look, the FDA was slow. We have a very clear mission, more cures and meaningful treatments for the American people. And so we're doing things differently. We are cutting idle time. We're reducing red tape. And we have an announcement today of a new drug that was approved in 44 days. That's unheard of. Typically it takes a year or so. And so we're doing things at operation warp speed, like speed. We need to treat every potential cure and powerful treatment for somebody who's suffering with that same level of urgency. So we're getting it done right now. We have the fastest approval times in US Government history, and we're going to be moving even faster without cutting any corners on quality or safety.

[Clay Travis]

I know you have a editorial that was up at the Wall Street Journal about how you're trying to move quickly and in particular with rare diseases. And this jumped out at me. Rare. I mean, we know certain diseases that impact tons of people. But this data, roughly 1 in 11 people are impacted by quote, unquote, rare diseases comes to about 30 million Americans. More common than asthma and type 1 diabetes combined, is what you write. Sometimes those markets are challenging because it's harder for drug companies to make substantial sums of money when they don't have a huge audience necessarily to treat. What is the impact of the moves you've made there?

[Dr. Marty Makary]

Well, you're exactly right. When you add up the number of people with a rare disease, it's like 1 in 11Americans. It's not actually rare. Now, the system was set up for common diseases at the fda, but we're unleashing an entire sector of investment and research by creating incentives to work on rare diseases. Now, some incentives existed, but we were able to get the priority review voucher program, which creates market incentives, extends market exclusivity, expedites reviews, provides tax credits for clinical trials signed by President Trump three weeks ago. But we're not stopping there. We have a new pathway called the plausible mechanism pathway, where if the mechanism of the drug sounds plausible and it's an ultra rare disease, you don't need to do a randomized trial. Just doesn't make sense. And we also announced regulatory flexibilities. We want to see companies thrive. If you're working on a rare disease, we want to see you succeed.

[Buck Sexton]

And what can you tell me, Doc, about. I was talking about GLP1s before, which obviously is a huge new drug class, which has been approved with Ozempic and WeGovy and all these things. Something like 1 in 10Americans, I think, have already tried these. There's all these other peptides that are all over the place. And some people think that this is an important part of the future of medicine. Now, I know that some of these are not FDA approved, but this is still in broad usage and people talk about this stuff all the time, things like BPC157 for recovery. You'll see people talking about this online. Is the FDA going to look at these peptides, run studies on them? I'm just wondering where that stands because it seems like there's this big gray area right now of things that are certainly not banned, but are not approved, but are becoming in common usage because of the FDA's. The perception is the FDA's slowness to see what's already happening.

[Dr. Marty Makary]

Yeah. So first of all, people ask me what do I think of peptides? And I point out that the term peptides is a big tent. It's like saying, what do you think about molecules? And there are some that are effective, some that are not effective, some that are unknown, and many that are safe. So we'd like to see the data, we'd like to see research go into a proper placebo controlled trial so that people who are describing a benefit can have that benefit sort of codified in the medical literature and other people can benefit from it. But we have not taken any restrictive actions on peptides unless they are direct copycats of drugs that other companies have put through the formal FDA process. And you gave the example of retatrutide, which is a new weight loss drug. There are copycat drugs out there While the phase 3 clinical trial is still going on. And so we are going to take action when it is a sort of a knockoff of a drug that companies have put through the process properly.

[Clay Travis]

We get a lot of questions.

[Buck Sexton]

Sorry, we got a lot of. I was going to ask about food supply stuff now because that's obviously been a huge focus of RFK Jr, one of your colleagues here in the MAHA movement, trying to get improvements to, well, what's in the food supply? What the guidance is about this. How is the FDA playing into that these days?

[Dr. Marty Makary]

Well, look, we have never been taught, we have never talked in the medical establishment about the root causes of our chronic disease epidemic. Instead, we just blame patients for being sick. But it's not a willpower problem. We have to look at school lunch programs and the microbiome and. And we rewrote the food pyramid because the Open secret was that old food pyramid was corrupt. We're talking about the importance of protein that you get from foods like steak and other meats, poultry, fish, nuts. You don't need to tiptoe around natural, healthy fats in your diet. So we're telling people the truth and it's going to inform all of the government purchasing that is done through SNAP and other programs in the Trump administration for the time. First, first time we have SNAP waivers. Now we taxpayer dollars don't have to go to sugary drinks and ultra processed junk food.

[Clay Travis]

We're talking to FDA commissioner chair Marty Makary. One of the things we get asked about a lot, Buck's got a young son. I've got three kids. But this is a common topic among parents. Why does so many kids today have allergies? And what, what is causing that? I know you've kind of started to look into this. What should parents know?

[Dr. Marty Makary]

Well, there are some things every parent should know. But it is amazing, Clay, that when we were growing up, I don't remember a single person with a peanut or food allergy. And there was one person I met when I was young who had a food allergy, but it was mild. Look at where we are today. What happened? One in 10 kids now has a peanut or food allergy. Well, part of it may be something that's unknown, that is changes to the microbiome. But the modern day peanut and food allergy epidemic may have been ignited by bad advice from the medical establishment. About 25 years ago, the American Academy of Pediatrics told folks and disseminated across the country that kids should avoid peanut butter until they turn three. They thought that would reduce the risk of peanut allergies in the future, but they got it perfectly backwards. You reduce your risk of a peanut allergy later in life through early introduction, as soon as a kid can eat at five, six, seven months of age. Early introduction and a sustained introduction of a little bit of peanut butter, a little bit of milk and eggs and other allergens. It's called immune tolerance. And every parent needs to know best practices on this, which is why we put together an FDA roundtable yesterday that parents can watch on this topic.

[Buck Sexton]

Is there any reform that is underway to try to make it so that things can, I mean, I was talking about, about moving more, more quickly in this process, but just getting information out to people about what the FDA is looking at. I mean, obviously you're on this show and you're the commissioner and a lot of people listen to the show, but I Think that I get questions a lot. Dr. Makary. I'll just put it this way. You know, when's the FDA going to do this? In the next six months? Are they looking at that? Are they still moving on this? How do, how do people best find this stuff or things like immunizations, for example? I have so many listeners who want to know, are they looking into this, are they going to have more recommendations about the immunization schedule, things along those lines? How are you getting the information out there?

[Dr. Marty Makary]

Well, great question. I've been in office about 10 months and we've announced 45 major reforms. We've had numerous roundtables where we're telling people the truth, like telling women the truth about hormone replacement therapy and the profound short and long term benefits. And there's actually a poll on the supply chain right now of hormone therapy. Since we've removed those scary black box warnings, we're doing it with testosterone. So many topics we're putting, putting out there on our social media channels. People need to know the truth. And when it comes to peanut and food allergies, I want every parent to know that you can Significantly, by over 80%, reduce the risk of your kid developing one of these allergies through early and sustained introduction. We got a little boy at home, he's about eight months old. We started introducing a little bit of peanut powder, a little bit of peanut butter, a little bit of milk, milk, a little bit of eggs, early, as early as five months. And that is critical in reducing the risk of allergies amidst this modern day epidemic.

[Clay Travis]

What do you think? I know we've had you on a lot over the years surrounding Covid and I know it's been six years now and you were in the midst of all the COVID fight and everything else, but it feels like to me everybody just wants to pretend the whole Covid shot era never happened, that there weren't all these demands that you, you didn't have to carry around your papers. What is the and Covid this winter seems to, I think the flu. You would know better than me. I think the flu has been more prevalent this winter and it's actually been a pretty nasty flu. Then Covid, even you would know better than me as head of the the fda. Where are we now with COVID and the COVID shots and the interplay with the flu here in winter?

[Dr. Marty Makary]

Well, you're right. Influenza was much more common this current season than Covid and the flu shot didn't work very well. It wasn't really a match for what was circulating out there. You know, Clay, I look back and what a disaster the public health response was to Covid Shutting kids out of school for nearly two years. Cloth masks on toddlers for three years. Covid boosters in perpetuity. I mean, they literally had a program here at the FDA to approve Covid boosters every year in perpetuity for young, healthy kids without any clinical trial data. We said we're getting back to gold standard science and we are keeping to Bobby Kennedy's promise. We're not going to take anyone's vaccines away. But you're seeing a significant renaissance now where people are recognizing where the risks are, really are, what the core essential vaccines really are. And by and large, young, healthy people are not taking that Covid booster every year.

[Buck Sexton]

What else is. What else is top? I mean, we've covered a lot here. I know, Dr. McGarry, whenever you come on our show, it's like the rapid fire, because we just have a lot of questions. And obviously we know you from when during COVID you were a voice of sanity amidst so much craziness. And so we have tremendous respect for what you did then and what you're trying to do now. But is there anything just quite honestly, is there anything else that all the folks listening, a lot of parents, grandparents that you're working on, that's a core goal of the fda, as long as you're in charge that they should know about?

[Dr. Marty Makary]

Well, thanks for asking, Buck. Look, I want to be very clear with everybody. We want to see a cure for type 1 diabetes in the current Trump administration. We want to see a powerful treatment for stage four cancer for certain GI cancers. There's a priority voucher that's been issued to an amazing treatment that melts cancer away in the GI tract for the 5 to 10% of people with a certain mutation. We want to see a powerful treatment for ptsd. Many of our soldiers are still dying even though the wars are over. Our men and women are still dying. The battle is still raging in their minds. We owe it to them to have a powerful treatment. We're going to see what those clinical trials show, and we'd like to see a universal flu shot so you don't have to guess every year what the strain's going to be and sometimes get it wrong like we did this year. You can get one shot for life. That gives you broad protection. Without the annual flu roundup, how do

[Buck Sexton]

we get Clay to be able to bench 315? Dr. Makary, is there anything in the Pipeline that could help clay get to 315.

[Dr. Marty Makary]

Gosh. We could check his testosterone level, but I can't imagine he's low on it. But if he were.

[Buck Sexton]

There we go. True. No, Clay. Clay is nodding in agreement. He's got no worries there. But 315 is pretty heavy. Our secretary.

[Clay Travis]

That's what he said.

[Buck Sexton]

That's pretty impress. That's a big.

[Clay Travis]

That's a big number.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, Dr. Makary, really appreciate you being

[Dr. Marty Makary]

with me when I go to the gym.

[Buck Sexton]

Go ahead.

[Dr. Marty Makary]

When I go to the gym, it's more like rehab than it is a workout. Compared to what, Bucks?

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, I'm really.

[Dr. Marty Makary]

I'm more of.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm turning into more of a stretching guy these days, Dr. McCary, than a bench guy, you know, that's really trying to keep my back clear. So. Yeah. Doctor, appreciate you.

[Clay Travis]

As always.

[Buck Sexton]

Anytime, anything priority that we can help get the word out about what you're doing and Maha and FDA and everything else, please just let us know. Good to talk to you.

[Dr. Marty Makary]

All right. Love you guys. Thanks a lot.

[Clay Travis]

That is Marty McCary doing great work. And I really am never gonna forget how many, few. How few. The numbers were buck of people that were in the trenches six years ago during COVID pointing out how crazy this is. And I still. I mean, I know it's been six years. Every time I fly, the number of people still wearing masks is. It's staggering to me.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, look at you, you random sports bro. I was doing a political show. You're doing a sports show. And producer Mark, who's actually like a normal American who loves sports, was like, you got to find this sports guy named Clay. And I was like, who? And he's like, clay. He's really good on masks. Clay. There were so few people who were good on masks that I had to go to the sports guy who knew that masks didn't work.

[Clay Travis]

I just. And here we are. I mean, happily ever after. Yeah. But six years later, there's still a lot of people walking around in masks, and it's like people forget about everything that we went through, and I'm still pretty radicalized, I think, over this. I'm not over it. But you can get hooked up right now from Prize Picks. If you love sports like I do, you love basketball, you love baseball. Coming up, we've already got spring training underway. NHL hockey. Whatever your sport is, you can find it on Price Picks, and you can play in all 50 states right now, from California to Florida to New York, York to Minnesota. All points in between, you can get hooked up right now. Prizepix.com Code Clay when you play $5, you get $50 deposited in your account. It's awesome. You'll love it. If you haven't already, go sign up today. PricePix.com Code Clay that's PricePix.com Code C L-A dash want to be in the know when you're on the go the Team 47 podcast drop highlights from the

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

He's a great guy.

[Buck Sexton]

He's a great guy. When everyone was like, oh my gosh, put your mask on, get your ninth shot, he was like, data doesn't support it. Sorry. No, no, it was those. Those were the days, Clay. Those are the fighting against the mind virus. By the way, manufacturing delusion, my friends, is a way to fight against the man. The mind, not the man virus. The mind virus. Go, go get a copy of it. The hardcovers, the audiobook. You'll love the audiobook. And, and also Crocket coffee. Don't forget about that, my friends. We're gonna be doing a Crockett coffee book giveaway and play. Well, you know, we can give everyone a little preview tomorrow.

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[Buck Sexton]

It's a Friday day. You're gonna. You're gonna make a prediction as to whether we're going to war or not.

[Clay Travis]

Right?

[Dr. Marty Makary]

So.

[Buck Sexton]

And everyone will just bank on you being correct.

[Clay Travis]

Yes, that, and we're gonna play Kamala Harris announcing she's running for 2028, basically, and bought.

[Buck Sexton]

You're gonna just drag me through the mud on this one just day he thinks he's already right. And so now I just have to hear about how he's not yet right for like the next six months. This is brutal. This is a rough, rough bet I've taken on.

[Clay Travis]

And President Trump. Sorry, President. Former President Clinton will be testifying in the never ending Epstein scandal. We'll have all that more. We'll have fun with you. Come hang with us Friday taking you into the weekend.

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