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Learn more@probane.com all right, third hour clan buck kicks off now. Our friend Ryan Gardusky joins us. He is the host on the Clan Buck podcast network of It's a Numbers Game. He does the deep dive nerdiness numbers analysis that you need to know to understand the politics of this country. Right now, our friend Ryan Graduski is with us. Mr. Graduski, thanks for making the time. Let's start with some of these numbers. I'm seeing some interesting stuff out of New Jersey. Now you're a Northeast guy like me. The idea of Republicans even being competitive in New Jersey seems like it's too good to be true. What are the numbers telling us about this? And Clay's, one of his favorite candidates is Chittarelli. So how's this all looking?
Buck Sexton
I've got us on FCC watch because I can't pronounce his name correctly, Ryan. So just be aware.
Ryan Gardusky
So let's go over some background information again with Democrats start off with an 860,000 voter advantage in the Garden State. Now, you may say, Ryan, that's a lot of voters, yes, but it is down significantly from November 2021, the last time Jack Cittarelli ran for governor. Republicans in the last four years since the last governor's election have gained 162,000 new voters, while Democrats have lost 47,000 voters in an election that Cittarelli lost by only 84,000 votes. If you polls first of the polls, there were seven polls recently. Overall, Mickey Sherrill, the Democratic nominee, has led five of them, averaging a lead of 5.5 points. But the last two polls by accredited pollsters that have come out said a Chitterelli is either tied or winning a national research poll which was funded by his campaign. So it's an internal campaign number, has him leading by a point and is up by 21 points. Normally internal polling, obviously they slant things towards their candidate. But Emerson, which has been on a roller coaster streak of good polling lately, they came out with a poll just today finding the race tied. And they also said that Chitta Riley is leading by 26 points among independents. So there's consistency there. It's not all good news because the group of undecided voters overwhelmingly lean Democrat, a lot of minorities, a lot of women. The problem for Mickey Sheryl is this minority voters in Urban New Jersey do not like her. They voted overwhelmingly against her in the last and in the primary. She comes from a small town where the median income is well over $150,000 a year. And she had a disastrous interview on the Breakfast Club where she couldn't describe how she made $7 million in profit selling stocks, which she was fined for because she was selling while she was on the House appropriations for military contracts. That has been a huge, huge problem. Democrats are freaked out. They've spent an additional $1.5 million on this race, 25 million in total. Internals are showing that she is not in a strong place. And that's where they're putting all their hands on deck.
Buck Sexton
Okay, how do we. So a couple of things. Ryan and I know some of you from New Jersey are going to know this, but I actually think it got snowed under. Trump lost New Jersey by about five points. He lost Virginia by about five points. That's where both of the governor's races that are going to be happening in about six weeks are taking place. Ryan, the Trump team believes that if they had had Kamala Harris money, that is, they could have just sprayed money everywhere like Kamala did, that they could have won in Virginia, they could have won in New Jersey. Do you buy it? And do we know if the current candidates in New Jersey and Virginia, are they competitive enough with dollars to spend coming down the stretch run here, as a lot of people that are not political obsessives become aware, these governors races are going on well.
Ryan Gardusky
It's great you mentioned Trump. So there's an inverse problem happening between New Jersey and Virginia. In Virginia, Winsome Sears, the Republican nominee, is trying to nationalize this election. She is making this specifically about trans girls playing biological female sports. It is her number one issue. She is talking about it consistently and is what her ads are focusing on. Inversely, in New Jersey, the Democrat, Mickey Sherrill is making this ent election about Trump. Just today, there was a news breaking story a little while ago that she was not allowed to walk in the U.S. naval Academy commencement speech because she cheated 130 times in her class. That was implicit. 130 people. She cheated and she could not walk in her graduation.
Buck Sexton
Hold on, let me, let me rephrase that, Ryan, because I think it was a little bit. I think she was part of a group of 130 people that was accused of cheating on tests that were not allowed to walk. Not she cheated 130 times. I think the Naval Academy would probably say, hey, I don't Know what the number is, but I think you get kicked out for that.
Ryan Gardusky
My apologies. I screwed up. Yes, that is true. She was with 130 people. So she has made this election about Trump. She blamed Jack Ciattarelli for this story coming out, saying he's part of the Trump cabal to release information. Jack Chiarelli is focused specifically on affordability and electricity costs. Electricity costs are the number one issue in both Virginia and New Jersey's election. Incidentally enough, electricity costs are skyrocketing in both places. The differ Jersey and Virginia is the elasticity of the electorate. So Virginia's electorate, because it is much blacker and blacks in America have a lower level of they move far, far less than Hispanics or whites do. It is a less. There's less elasticity for the Republicans to make big, big gains. The question is, do they show up at all? There's also a lot of, you know, quote unquote awfuls, which is like angry white female liberals. There's a lot more in Virginia and there's a lot of people angry over the Elon cuts to federal jobs. New Jersey doesn't have that problem. And Citarelli has been more centralized on the affordability question and on the tax question. Sheryl had an absolutely abominable debate performance where she, where she would not commit to not raising taxes in the middle class and she would not explain once again how she made $7 million on, on, on a stock trade. Both those clips went viral. It's been very, very bad. Everything that is breaking in someone's favor is Cittarelli. Cittarelli's campaign in the last 45 days have reminded me more of Glenn Youngkin than when some Sears, when some Sears is really just trying to get the Trump face out. And she's had a mixed record on having that ability.
Clay Travis
Can you break down for us a little bit, Ryan? I thought that was really interesting and I'd seen some headlines around this. The skyrocketing electricity price as that's generally not something you think of as a top election issue at the state level, but that that is in two different states in these two critical governors races. I think it's very interesting. Part of it, as I understand it, is data center usage and essentially places getting ready for AI or wanting to be more part of the AI race and also to store all this data online. Part of it is natural gas prices. So there's a few things coming into it. But how are the various campaigns handling this? Because I always think it's so funny. The Democrats, their only idea for how to make electricity prices less expensive involve finding more expensive forms of electricity like solar. I mean, I don't know what they think they're going to do. So how is that playing out?
Ryan Gardusky
Right. So it is the number one issue in both New Jersey and Virginia. And I sent our data centers are the main culprit. Data centers take about 25% of Virginia's electricity. One in four they've added about 20 million homes using power through data centers. In New Jersey, data centers are responsible for 70% of the increased prices in electricity. Jack Chiwelli is talking, talking about having tax cuts for the middle class and about trying to have more alternate, not alternative in the form of solar, but really looking at increasing natural gas subsidies or anything he can to sit there and try to get prices lower through using taxes in the state. Abigail Spamberger over in Virginia, she's actually the only candidate running statewide who has pointed to data centers and saying we need to figure out how to deal with this increase in the cost of electricity through data centers. And she's the one who's pointed the finger when some sears really hasn't spent spoke about data centers or electricity prices nearly as much, focusing much more on national issues to try to really drive out lower propensity voters. And I have a number on that. Virginia does not have the, does not have party registration like New Jersey does. So you're not a registered Republican or Democrat. But among modeling companies, companies that model whether you're likely to be a Republican or a Democrat, Republicans have done a much better job at turning out people who have either never voted and are likely Republicans or only voted for once in the last four elections than Democrats have. So if that's her game plan by bringing out low propensity voters, it's showing a little bit of traction. But Democrats outside of Richmond and in the northern part of the state and the nova outside of D.C. are really turning out like gangbusters, especially in the Richmond suburbs.
Buck Sexton
Let's go to the New York City mayor's race because a lot of our W O R listeners are plugged in on this. Ryan, we still haven't gotten any movement from, from anyone to drop out, whether it's Eric Adams, Curtis Lewa, Andrew Cuomo, and as I'm looking right now at Poly Market, they have an 87% chance that Mamdani is elected mayor. Is there any reason right now in your mind to expect any kind of movement there or if you kind of resign yourself to Mamdani is going to be the next New York City Mayor.
Ryan Gardusky
Mandani's going to be the next year city mayor unless Eric Adams and Curtis Lewa drop out. I mean, and we've had more polling out of New York City than either Virginia or New Jersey at this point. Pollsters love pulling New York. It's an interesting race. The problem is in this fractured field, it needs to be a head on head competition. And all pollsters agree. A head to head competition between Cuomo and Mandami shows a competitive race and we don't know who would win. But we. Cuomo has run one of the most God awful campaigns I could imagine. He's made no concessions to Republicans to try to win them over whatsoever. And Eric Adams is still hanging around or at 7 or 8%, mostly among Jewish and black voters who would otherwise be voting for Cuomo. So it's really been some of the worst campaigning I've ever seen, especially from Cuomo. And Curtis Lewis had essentially no campaign aside from going the same five places over and over and over again. He's polling somewhere in the low to mid teens and it's really kind of fizzled out. So.
Buck Sexton
Okay, do you buy Buck and I have kind of debated this, that mom Donnie could have an impact in the 2026 midterms if he is the face of the Democrat Party, or do you think he's really not that well known outside of New York City. What is his impact? Let's say he wins. Obviously he's not a citizen, I mean born American citizen, so he's not eligible to run, for instance, for President Trump. But thankfully, sadly, given how much support he has among Democrats, does he have national resonance next year in your mind if he wins in New York City or not?
Ryan Gardusky
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's a reason why Fox News is the only one who covers his speeches live. And they don't do it for any New York City politician. And they want him. Republicans desperately want to make him the face, which is why Hakeem Jeffries still won't endorse him despite Kathy Hochul endorsing him. And it'll be a big question going into 2026 if they sit there and try to play spoiler. Mandani made comments saying, I'm not promising to re endorse Kathy Hochul or any other Democrat. So they very much want to play. And I spoke to some Democratic consultants who are very, very smart and the question they said this, it is not a question of if like an AOC or Mandani type of person will be the Democratic nominee in 2028. It's a matter of when. It is just a matter of timing. All the movement is on the progressive side, and they are absolutely going to make Mandani the face of it. And he is, you know, he's charming to some people, he's charismatic to some people, he. Some ability, political ability that I do notice. But his policies are absolutely insane, especially around policing and is going to. Especially in the Northeast. It's going to be very problematic for Democrats.
Clay Travis
So is it your view that he will be as insane as we are worried he will be if he becomes the mayor of New York? Like, will he actually do these policies, or is this just to get the sizzle going, but he'll have to deal with the reality of trying to govern eight and a half million people?
Ryan Gardusky
Well, he has limitations because the governor has a lot of control over New York City. So it's not like he's. It's not like he's the president or the king of the city. There are certain things that he can do that I expect him to do on day one. He also has a problem. The federal government is going to be breathing down his neck on certain issues. Like the idea that he's going to be able to kick ICE agents out of the city is just not realistic whatsoever. On certain things, he's going to be pretty horrific. On other things, he can't fulfill half of those promises because he doesn't have the ability or the wherewithal to do so. So, I mean, I think that he's gonna be a worse mayor than Bill. Bill de Blasio. But, I mean, that's what. That's what's happening right now in New York.
Clay Travis
Go check out It's a Numbers Game comes out every week on the Clay and Buck podcast network. Ryan Gardusky is the excellent host. Ryan, thanks for breaking it all down for us. Great stuff.
Ryan Gardusky
Thank you.
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Clay Travis
Edu all right, welcome back in here to play and Buck. Sorry. You were supposed to bring us in there, Clay, but I told her.
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Oh, that's all right.
Clay Travis
Whose turn it was.
Buck Sexton
Some people are mad at us. We got people who are mad at us, so we could always go to that.
Clay Travis
I don't know. I just always assume they're mad at you. I don't know.
Buck Sexton
Well, that might be true.
Clay Travis
Maybe they are, maybe they're not. Brad from San Diego, this is a talk back. EE listens on Cogo. Play it.
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Clay Travis
It's. It's clocked at 97. That's not, that's not like a best and final. I just want to be very clear about that. All right? This, this, this bed is not over.
Buck Sexton
All right, this is. I'll just point out, I'll say it. Probably Buck's gonna say, oh, the weather's not gonna be great in Taiwan. Not sure I'll be able to get out.
Clay Travis
It is typhoon season there, Mr. Clay, so, you know, sorry that I'M sorry that, you know, 50 inches of rain in a day or something is. Makes it a little harder to play.
Buck Sexton
A lot of excuses is. That's what it sounds like to me. Let's go. By the way, let's go ahead and let him in. I don't know how to pronounce this name. Do you know New York City there? You're better at pronunciation. Is it Odin?
Clay Travis
Odin, like the Norse guy?
Buck Sexton
They confused me by saying, like, the Norse God there, because I was like, is it a way that. I wouldn't expect it to be that way.
Clay Travis
Hold on a second. Odin. People always ask me this, and it's my middle name, but is Odin your actual name?
Ryan Gardusky
Yes, Odin is my actual name. O D I N. That is very cool.
Clay Travis
I'm gonna tell you. That's. That's, like, legit. That's like your first name being Thor. I'm a fan. All right. What do you want to talk to us about? Odin.
Ryan Gardusky
Fellas, you guys are hurting us New Yorkers. We're not in the business. I thought of suppressing votes. I am a Republican. I would vote for Eric Adams because we know what Cuomo did when he was governor. He killed 14,000 people. I don't want Cuomo as my mayor. Okay, well, unfortunately, he won't get enough votes. The math just ain't math. And for him. So I'd rather stick with the devil I know, which is Mayor Adams. But.
Buck Sexton
Okay, but you actually. Hold on, Odin. We're not suppressing. You actually agree with us that if everybody stays in, Curtis Lee was gonna win. I mean, I mean, sorry that mom died.
Clay Travis
That would be great.
Buck Sexton
But, yeah, yeah, you agree with us, right?
Ryan Gardusky
If everybody stays in, I don't know what will happen, because the great Rush Limbaugh always told me polls are designed to sway public opinion. We don't even know if the poll true or not.
Buck Sexton
We're not talking about the polls. What I cited was poly market. You can right now, odin, go to polymarket.com. there is a 90% chance in the gambling markets that Mom Donnie is going to win. If you disagree with that, you can go make a ton of money betting on Sliwa, betting on Adams, or betting on the Cuomo. If you think one of those three guys is going to win, put your money where your mouth is, go in the market. All I'm telling you is what the market is saying.
Ryan Gardusky
This is the problem. You don't live in New York. You don't care. This is the problem. You live in Tennessee. You don't Care. I care.
Clay Travis
My whole family still lives in New York.
Buck Sexton
I would love if the communists didn't win in every election anywhere in the country. I'm just telling you, Mamdani is a huge favorite right now. He's angry.
Clay Travis
I think Odin's throwing a bolt of lightning at you, Clay, So deal with it.
Buck Sexton
Look, Odin, I gotta win for you here, no matter where you live in the country. Jalen Hurts gonna get more than 1/2 passing yards. That is a guaranteed win. Kyler Murray, more than one half passing touchdowns tonight. Sam Darnold, more than one half passing touchdowns. If I'm right, that pays out at two and a half to one. If you go right now to pricepix.com use my name, Clay, download the app, go to the website, whatever you want to do. California, Florida, Georgia, get hooked up today. Odin and everybody else, prizepix.com Code Clay, we're winning two and a half to one tonight. Several different things. One I want to clean up. I'm not 100% sure that Poly Market is legal in the United States right now. I know they're moving towards legality. So if you want to bet on politics, the website that is 100% legal is Kalshee. You just heard me talking with Odin. He was upset. I'm not citing polls when I. I am citing these gambling markets. That means if you think they're wrong, then you can go in and you can take another side, just like you can in any sporting event. So right now in New York City, because I want to get it exactly right, I am on the Kalshee website. It is 100% legal. Mom Donnie has an 87% chance of winning. Andrew Cuomo has a 13% chance of winning. Eric Adams has under 1% chance of winning, and Curtis Sliwa has under 1% chance of winning. So you have the ability to put your money where your mouth is. The data reflects, and I think we're true on this. And I'm not trying to hide the ball or make people angry in New York by sharing it. Momdani right now is a huge favorite to be elected the next mayor of New York City. The numbers reflect that if Adams, Sliwa and Cuomo all stay in the race, there is virtually a 0% chance, by and large, that anybody other than Mom Donnie is going to win. That's the reality. Telling you, hey, somebody else is going to win. Like, they're being underrated. I'm not citing polls. I'm just telling you what the markets are saying right now. And Mom Donnie is a huge favorite. Now, what Odin may have been referencing is I've made the argument that New York picking an awful mayor could actually help nationwide in the 2026 midterms. That's why Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, also New Yorkers, the House of Representatives minority leader and the Senate minority leader, why they have tried to avoid endorsing Momdani so far because they think that he is a bad look for the national Democrat brand.
Clay Travis
I think Odin is also upset that you are acting like Loki in this scenario and bringing us closer to political Ragnarok.
Buck Sexton
That is such a nerdy analogy that I can't help but respect it. I don't know what percentage of people out there are nodding. I think it's a small percentage, but it is. If you are aware with what is going on in. In that universe, you are going to be super excited.
Clay Travis
We got some big Norse mythology bu in the audience, they're like, yeah, Buck, tell them.
Buck Sexton
And I think some of them out there are probably just Marvel fans. Oh, yeah.
Clay Travis
It's much more likely to be Marvel than it's funny. I know about it more from Norse mythology, which I studied in school for a while, than the Marvel movies, which I have seen almost none of.
Buck Sexton
I've seen all the Marvel movies. So when you say Loki or you say Thor, I immediately think. Or Odin, I immediately think of the Marvel movies out there. Okay, we got a bunch of different people who want to weigh in. And let's see. VIP email from Jennifer agree on Nate Bargazi. Buck was saying, hey, go see this guy. Great comedian. He's super famous. Not like we're. We're basically telling you, hey, you know what's a. You should drink a Coke. I mean, Nate's gotten so famous that almost everybody knows who he is.
Clay Travis
But I've been saying he's good on the show. I mean, I know you've known him for a decade, and so you've always thought he was good, but I'm saying it's been years now.
Buck Sexton
Yeah.
Clay Travis
So I feel like I like the band early. Like, I like the band before they were playing the super bowl, and now he's playing the Super Bowl.
Buck Sexton
Well, I'm just excited to see a success because he would come on my local sports talk radio show back in the day, and some of the stories he can tell. I mean, every comedian who ends up successful can tell you about the worst gigs they ever did. You got to really grind in almost any field. I mean, Buck, I have done. Oh, I've talked about this before. I've done a lot of shows at gas stations. I mean, I did live radio shows in gas stations and I used to have. I, I now it's kind of funny to talk about, but it wasn't even gas stations that were in good neighborhoods. You know how, like, there are nice gas stations and you go in and you're like, oh, this bathroom's probably clean. I did radio shows where you walk into a gas station and you're like, I don't even want to use the bathroom here. I don't even want to put my hand on the gas pump. Like, like you, you walk in and I'm just sitting there at a fold out table in a random gas station doing a radio show. There is, you know, some of these remotes are very, very funny, and a lot of these comedians have been through those experiences. So Jennifer is saying, just saw Nate here in Jacksonville with three of my daughters, my son in law and husband. We loved it. Buck podcast listener Kevin says he loves when you get fired up. This is Cece.
Clay Travis
I absolutely love it when you guys get on a topic that gets Buck so fired up that he cusses on the air. It cracks me up because he's usually so buttoned up and squared away. And then Clay's the wild one, but somebody like Comey just gets under his skin and you can feel it coming through the radio, man. It's fantastic.
Buck Sexton
It's true. Fauci, like, if you were gonna curse, there are a few names I could give where I would put odds on you cursing just based on the topic because you do legitimately get so angry.
Clay Travis
Yes. No, fou. It's the stake in the lion's den. Fauci. Comey, Clay knows this is true. This is not an act. Those. Those guys get me, man. It is. It is accurate, and it does get me. You know, it's. It's like the Hulk. You don't want to see me when I'm angry. You know, I start turning green.
Buck Sexton
Let me hit you with this too, because some of you were listening with Ryan Gardusky, and he was sharing a news story that just came down. And I actually think it's an interesting question, and I'm not claiming to know the answer, but I think a lot of you probably have thought about this at some point in time. The New Jersey governor candidate for the Democrats, Mikey Sherrill, she was. This is a story that just came out. She was prohibited from walking and that Gardesky referenced. So I want to make sure we get this right. She was prohibited from walking with her class at the US Naval Academy commencement ceremony in 1994 as a punishment connected to a cheating scandal that implicated about 130 midshipmen in her class. I vaguely remember this story, Buck, about the fact that the Naval Academy and some of the military academies had cheating scandals that had happened. This was 1994. She was not allowed to walk with her graduating class. Now, I'm gonna be honest with you. You, that is, am I doing the math here? Right? That is basically 31 years ago. I think I'm right on that. 31ish years ago. If I'm, if I'm doing my math live on the air. Right. I don't know where the statute of limitations is. When we go back in people's past and we say, oh, I'm not voting for someone because of X or Y to me. And I'm just speaking for me. And by the way, that story from the New Jersey Globe.
Ryan Gardusky
Globe.
Buck Sexton
It is out there. The New Jersey Globe reporting that story. There are lots of reasons why I think I would not be voting for Mikey Sheryl if I lived in New Jersey. Her height, her college graduation ceremony from 1994 is nowhere near the top of my list. Now, you might say, okay, this is evocative of why we can't trust her today because there's other things she's done since then. But I don't know where you come down. But if I find out somebody 30 years ago had an issue in college change, I'm not judging them based on that, whether they're a Democrat, Republican or an Independent. Maybe some of you out there disagree with that. But I don't know where the statute of limitations is on going back into people's background. But for me, over 30 years ago, college graduation ceremony, there are lots of reasons why I think she's the wrong choice for New Jersey. It wouldn't be because of something that happened when she was 21 or 22.
Clay Travis
They wouldn't extend the same grace to our side.
Buck Sexton
Just true.
Ryan Gardusky
Clear.
Clay Travis
They would not. So this is, this is where we get to. Is it? Do you want to be the nice, the nice person or do you want to be the person that insists on consequences for both sides under similar rules? So, yeah, we will.
Buck Sexton
So that story is out. I just wanted to make sure we got it correct because we kind of talked about it at the top of this hour.
Clay Travis
Yes. No, it is absolutely out. I, I'm, I think New Jersey is going to be very, very close. And I actually Think. I think the Republican can. I think Chitterelli can win this race just based on everything I've seen Ryan just said. And I'm, I'm leaning super narrow in for the Republican there. I am, I am worried about the fantastic winsome Sears in Virginia. That, that is more of a concern for me because Spamberger is the perfect Democrat in a purple state insofar as what does she stand for?
Buck Sexton
I don't know.
Clay Travis
Kind of, you know, seems fine, I guess. You know, she's a Democrat so probably.
Buck Sexton
Nice to people Biden 2020 campaign where they're going to say she's very middle of the road, she's very moderate. I think this is why hitting her on this crazy policy of men and women's sports. But even, even worse, this is me even worse, I think than men and women's sports which I think is indefensible and should not occur men in women's locker rooms. I mean this is. I don't understand how any man, particularly any man in America can think that's okay. Now women, I think are being taken advantage of their toxic empathy here to oh well, the men are women too. But I don't think there's a man listening to us right now that is thinking to himself, you know what? I'm totally fine with a dude being in my daughter, my granddaughter's, my wife's locker room. I mean this is criminal behavior. It's not empathy at all. The guy should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Any guy that tries to pull this, I'm sorry, it's just absolutely ridiculous.
Clay Travis
And yet we know that she will just make sure between now and the election Spanberger will not give a definitive answer on this one.
Buck Sexton
That's right.
Clay Travis
The other. And will allow the media to carry, you know, to carry the water for her and just make sure that people think about how, oh, she's good on like women's rights and like reproductive health and she wants, you know, more investment. And these very vague. You notice this too Democrats when it comes close to election time again in a contested election, right. Not they're not doing this in San Francisco, but in a contested election Democrats get very vague and very non committal and then hope that the media can, you know, patch up the little holes that start to emerge when people realize this is. By the way, this was the Kamala strategy as chief homologist. This was the Kamala strategy. It was don't really say or do anything for a while and then hope the media just tells Everybody how great you are and that, that's enough. And they run this playbook over and over again. I mean, you can say a lot of things about Trump. The guy says what he thinks, and he says what he's going to do, do, and the Democrats do not. Joe Biden lied about what his entire presidency was really going to be. Joe Biden ran on being a uniter and then gave that speech with the red lights and the Marines in the background, basically saying, you know, get the vax, or you're at public enemy number one. I mean, you know, he was a jerk and a dementia patient. It was bad.
Buck Sexton
Not a good combo?
Clay Travis
No, not good. I think that was pretty. That's pretty clear.
Buck Sexton
This is.
Clay Travis
By the way, we got another cut of Spanberger, the different one that we had the other day. This cut, 21. This is with a reporter from Lynchburg, Virginia. Let's hear what she said.
Buck Sexton
If a bill landed on your desk.
J
And it had to do with restrooms or sports in this situation, I mean.
Buck Sexton
Would you support a bill that allowed this?
J
If it landed on your desk? I would support a bill that would put clear provisions in place that provide a lot of local ability for input based on the age of children, based on the type of sport, based on competitiveness. Because certainly I recognize, I absolutely recognize, I'm the mom of three daughters in Virginia public schools. They participate in all activities across the board. I recognize the concern that families and community members might have about the safety of their own kids, about competitiveness, about fairness. And I think that what the process that was in place for 10 years was, one that was working, was one that, you know, took individual circumstances and individual communities into account.
Clay Travis
Clay. Clay, this is actually the perfect answer, insofar as it is a series of emotions tied together with prepositions that says nothing. Yeah, it's just, you know. Oh, yeah. Complicated. Oh, yeah. I have kids.
Buck Sexton
Oh.
Clay Travis
I'm thinking about the tough things here. What are you going to do, lady? You want to be governor?
Buck Sexton
Yeah. It's actually the Gavin Newsom answer to a large extent. Like, remember when he did Sean Ryan show and he said you can do the evil Keanu impersonation here, but he basically said, I hear you. I, I, that's a legitimate concern. You know. Okay, but that's such a political answer. I don't care whether you hear me, I don't care whether you consider it to be a legitimate concern. You are the executive in charge of the state. Tell me what you believe on this issue or, or try to hide, which tells me everything I know about your beliefs on this issue. You're too much of a coward to actually say, as a mom of three girls, what you should say, which is this is completely unacceptable and I'm not going to allow it. Which, guess what is what Winsome Sears is saying. Saying it's what Glenn Youngkin has said. This is not a tough question. It's only tough if you're a liar and you're trying to pretend that this is not an actual issue.
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Scuba Steve
Gentlemen, longtime listener, a rush error. I'm in my 60s, you guys. Thanks for keeping a candle on just Clay, are you the reason why there's gas station sushi now?
Ryan Gardusky
Because you did your job there.
Clay Travis
And.
Scuba Steve
Ms. Spamberger is also, she said first day she's going to cancel Youngin's order about work with ice. So that that's a mess. But deviating from that. Gentlemen, I wanted your opinion. I'm heading up a.
Clay Travis
You got 30 seconds, Scuba Steve, before the show ends.
Ryan Gardusky
All right.
Scuba Steve
I'm holding up a program here where I think they should have veterans who are retired and honorable discharge. I think they just stand to watch at some of these schools and pay them by tax relief. We, we have 30,000 people right here in Chesapeake. We could put 800 veterans at 44 of the schools and just stand to watch. You wouldn't have anybody coming in and proms and you wouldn't have anybody going to those locker rooms.
Buck Sexton
Thank you for the call. I love the idea of everybody having security at schools, Buck. I've been in favor of it all my kids. Public schools have had armed security. I think every school in America should have armed security to protect kids.
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Air Date: September 25, 2025
Guest: Ryan Girdusky (Host, "It's a Numbers Game")
Main Theme:
An in-depth, data-driven look at pivotal state and city political races, focusing on emerging trends, campaign strategies, and the impacts of key issues—especially in New Jersey, Virginia, and New York City.
In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton host political data analyst Ryan Girdusky for a deep dive ("nerding out") on the numbers behind the most closely watched upcoming elections, including the New Jersey and Virginia gubernatorial races and the New York City mayor's race. The discussion covers shifting demographics, campaign strategies, critical local issues (with a surprising focus on electricity prices), and how certain outcomes could ripple far beyond their states. The hour is packed with numbers, campaign stories, sharp commentary, and a lively Q&A from listeners.
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The show balances serious number-driven analysis (via Ryan) with sharp, often lighthearted banter and a willingness to address nationwide frustration and skepticism about polls and media coverage. Clay and Buck maintain their signature style—irreverent, skeptical, and populist—while Ryan brings deep-dive political “nerd energy.”
This episode provides a clear, numbers-based look at major 2025 political races with plenty of insight into why seemingly uncompetitive states (like New Jersey) are rapidly shifting, what’s at stake in the NYC mayoral race (with real implications for national politics), and why “boring” local issues like electricity costs can suddenly decide high-stakes contests. The extended listener call-in and Q&A segments also highlight grassroots frustrations and the skepticism many voters now feel toward traditional polling—and underscore how betting markets are now influencing political expectations.
Recommended Segment:
Start at 03:02 for Ryan’s comprehensive breakdown of New Jersey and Virginia, and listen through 16:19 to get the best of the "numbers game" discussion plus urban politics impact.
This summary skips all advertisements and sponsor messages, focusing on the episode’s substantive political analysis and memorable host-guest interactions.