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Clay Travis
U n d welcome Final hour of the week. We hope all of you are having fantastic Fridays. You can always find us on podcast. You can find the entire podcast network which includes the guests that we are about to bring on Ryan Gardusky, Carol Markowitz, Lisa Booth David Rutherford. I mean, just a huge bevy of outstanding Tudor Dixon content from a variety of perspectives inside of the Clay and Buck podcast network. Also, you can go click like and subscribe on YouTube. We're on every social media platform it feels like on the planet, so you should be able to find us anywhere. I was just downstairs holding Buck's new baby boy, who is a total chunk. There may be photos of that up soon. What is he, what does he weigh now? I'm not trying to put him on, on blast here.
Buck Sexton
20 pounds. He's in the 95th percentile for weight. We call him Lord Chunkingham, first of his name.
Clay Travis
He is a chunker. I mean, those legs that.
Buck Sexton
His legs are like stay puft.
Clay Travis
Yeah, he's, he's, he's a. It is, it is really awesome. So we were just downstairs with that. You can see that picture. I hope you and your family are having great holiday seasons already. All right, bring in Ryan Gardusky. Now, Ryan, you got a lot of great stuff. Encourage people to go subscribe to your substack, as I am. And you can see many different stories out there that you're regularly writing. And earlier this week you had a piece that I thought was super interesting. One of the big debates out there has been, we know that Trump is deporting illegal immigrants, focused on the criminal among them. But exactly how many people are choosing to voluntarily leave on top of those that are being deported has been a point of real debate. And you now have been able to go into data and look at some of the birth details and start to maybe get a sense for what the overall population might be of the illegal immigrant population and how it might have changed. That's a long way of asking, what have you found? Tell us how you found it.
Ryan Gardusky
So the cdc, the government shut down, did not update their birth, their monthly birthday, and it's the preliminary birthday because they come out with the final one after the next year is over, obviously, because they get to December. So they finally came up with September and October and we've have a long, long, you know, year bas. And what I always said was if an illegal alien was pregnant 7 months, 8 months, she's not going to self deport. She's going to wait to have the baby and have an anchor baby, basically a citizen. But over the time, we would see if the mass deportations were working because by this time of the year, October, they wouldn't have been pregnant when Trump was president or just newly pregnant. So they would have been deported or self deported. What we've noticed is in 41 states and the District of Columbia, the foreign born population of new babies being born is down in 41 of the 50 states. And in a lot of the states that have seen population increase of foreign born births, most of them have a very small foreign born population. So it's like Vermont, New Hampshire, West Virginia, Montana, North Dakota. So anything like if there's two more, it would be a big increase because there's very few to begin with. So in most parts of the country, there's a significant decline. Overall, there's about 35,000 fewer births from foreign born mothers this year compared to last year. And what we're looking at overall especially, and that's especially coming in the last two months, numbers have dropped up significantly by 10,000 in the last month alone. So you're seeing mass deportations decrease substantially. Sorry, increase substantially. And given that the foreign born data is matching other data out there, rental property data, you're seeing Bureau of Labor Statistics data, that means that with self deportation, the number is well into the 2 millions of foreign born people, mostly illegal aliens who have left the country. And what's very interesting is where you're seeing the scattering of the drop in foreign born births. Places like Texas had a big drop off. Nevada, you know, even Kentucky and New York, places that have both been complying with the administration and non compliant, you've seen this overall drop. So it's pretty broad across the country.
Buck Sexton
Ryan, this is a story that I feel like the administration needs to get out there more because the deportation number is what, four or five hundred thousand I think for the year so far. Does that sound about right?
Ryan Gardusky
Something in that it's close to 6 or 700,000. Okay, picked up a little bit, yeah.
Buck Sexton
So, so we'll say 600,000 just to put us in the ballpark. But when you've let 10 million in, not this administration obviously, but with 10 plus million coming in under Biden in four years, people can do the back of the napkin math on this one. It's this other piece of changing enforcement priorities and the incentives for people that continue to stay here illegally that gives that number that you're citing, looking at this data, where do you think they can actually increase this? Or what are the ways that they can take these numbers and get them even higher next year? Because I know the White House is considering a whole range of things.
Ryan Gardusky
Well, the first thing is with the Supreme Court case, right, which is over the birthright citizenship, which is what Trump has done, if that is gone if the Supreme Court says that illegal aliens, tourists do not have rights to citizenship, they are not considered in the jurisdiction of, which is the big five words of the 14th Amendment. If they're not in the jurisdiction of the United States because they're here illegally and their children are not automatically granted citizenship, that is going to be a slight switch because that will drive birth tourism in New York, California, Miami, other places. You see a lot of people from across the world, China and Russia, Mexico coming to the United States to have a child as a citizen. That will be the first thing. The administration is pursuing that very, very strongly. Another one is going to sit there and I mean, what they really should do is sit there and withhold Medicaid payments to hospitals that are notorious illegal alien hubs for illegal aliens to have children in places like in El Paso or in San Diego, places that sit there and they use, because these births are all covered by the taxpayer, the hospital is not refusing them, which is why you're seeing a massive number of border, of hospitals on the border going bankrupt year after year because Medicaid payments are not as high as private sector payments or private insurance payments. Sitting there and asking for the full data of illegal alien birth in these hospitals and with, and threatening to withhold Medicaid money unless those births are given. That could ramp up enforcement in those areas. Because they're not going, you know, they're not going to Cedar Rapids, Iowa, you know, to have a baby. They're going to the same 20 cities across the country and that we can crack down on birth tourism by enforcing in those areas, you know, where people are having children, where, where, where people are at nine months pregnant, showing up with, you know, a six month long visa, a tourist visa to have a child. And they're illegally crossing the border. Some of them are requesting to sit there and visit the United States at eight and a half months pregnant for several months in order to have a baby here. Things like that, that could stop them from flying in overseas when they're nine months pregnant in order just to have American citizen children. Those are easy staples that are not, you know, they don't have ugly views as far as like, you know, pregnant women being arrested that we don't want, we don't want videos of that happening. So refusing visas, tourist visas to women who are nine months pregnant in these specific areas would also, you know, drop that number even further.
Clay Travis
We're seeing, and I think this is partly related frankly to interest rates starting to come down, meaning 15 and 30 year mortgages in general are cheaper at the end of the year than they were at the beginning. But I saw a report this morning, Ryan, that the average home price came down 2.5% this year. And there are some people saying, well, partly real estate prices are going to come down. In fact, this is one argument J.D. vance made. Because if we have 20 million illegals, which is the number that Tom Holman has said we have, if millions of those illegals leave the country, then in theory that would open up more housing and drive down the cost of housing. Right. Do you buy into a correlation there at all or do you think it's more likely just connected with interest rates?
Ryan Gardusky
Yeah, the last especially says we just don't build enough housing. We build at 1.5 million new homes per year in the United States. But you think about it. One, we take in about a million legal immigrants per year and then there's all the amount of adults who are turning 21, 22, they want to buy a house that were 25, whatever it is, and buy a house or rent a house, either which one. And all people who buy second homes and the foreigners who buy homes. There's tons of Canadians who own homes in Florida, for example, for summer homes and in Arizona. So you max, you increase, you open the entire housing markets of the world. And plus with the illegal population, it's not a matter of a supply issue, it's a demand issue. The demand for a house in America is just through the roof. And our own citizens always kind of fall to the back. Given that there are 15 to 20 million illegal aliens. I know they say there's less, but it's probably closer to, it's probably 15 million or above, dropping that population down by 2 million, which is less than 10%, but it's a significant percentage that absolutely opens up the housing market. And even rental apartment rentals are declining for four consecutive months in half the country. So you're seeing housing down 2.5% is not a significant drop, but you don't want that significant of a drop. You don't want a massive housing recession. So 2.5% drop in housing is great. Four months of consecutive declining in rentals overall nationally is also a Strong sign for 18 to 25 year olds who want to rent an apartment for the very first time in their life. All these are good indicators that the illegal alien population, the foreign born population declining, that population is opening up availability towards housing and at least relieving this major crisis we have at least temporarily on housing. We have to start cracking down on the Legal immigration system. The fact that more than half of our legal immigration is just family reunification, it's because you're related to somebody, you get citizenship into our or entry into our country, is very, very outdated and should be reformed. But the illegal alien population, which is the low hanging fruit going after that, we're seeing signs in housing and in birth data that say this is changing. And so therefore the illegal alien population is drying up by 2 to 2.5 million this year.
Clay Travis
By the way, I say 20 million and we always get emails from people saying, oh, it's way higher. That's the number that Tom Holman has given us. I asked him directly, how many illegal immigrants do you think are in the country? Tom Holman, who knows this world better than almost anyone, says that number is 20 million. Just FYI.
Ryan Gardusky
Yeah, no, I agree with him. It's probably, it's, yeah, it's 20 million. What the, the official number, the 11.2, which has been like that for 25 years, that comes from Pew Research. They put that number at every year like CBS and C and eat it up. But it's a complete, it's just a Pew Research number. It's a lie. Everybody who's really studied this knows it's 20 million or around that number. So I completely agree with Tom holman. So, yeah, 10% is a big drop in a single solitary year. I mean, that's a really effective enforcement mechanism that Tom Holman and the Department of Homeland Security has really initiated throughout this year.
Buck Sexton
How is the Trump team doing, you think, on the affordability issue as it pertains to the electorate market going into the midterms next year? Affordability is the huge buzzword. Everyone knows it. How are they handling this, you think?
Ryan Gardusky
I mean, look, on certain things, it is becoming more affordable. Gasoline is at a five year low. That's great. Gasoline and energy is one of the major, major, major drivers. A lot of different things, right? Because we need gas to transport food across the country and across the globe. We need, we need gasoline to move products, you know, everywhere. What I think, what I think there's, there's certain, the media is a very good job at labeling the tariffs as the main driver. Everything that is increasing is not tariff related. Insurance is increasing substantially. Everyone's insurance has gone up. That has nothing to do with a tariff. Right. There's a lot of other things that are working in there. Electricity bills partially because of the AI data centers, but not completely, but partially because of that. That's a problem where they have failed the most this administration is by passing another budget that borrows money that decreases the value of the dollar. It is a tax that no one has seen. But where they have been effective is at reshoring some manufacturing. What I have told many people in the administration, people in the Senate, people on the Hill, what they need to do is go to the Department of War and have Pete Hegsgaff sit there and look at certain items, certain items that is necessary in that the military buys, for instance aspirin and anti inflammation. The military is one of the biggest purchasers of medical supplies in the entire world. If they said we're going to issue a government contract only if those supplies were built in America or made in America, which Tylenol can be made in America, they would make them in America. They need to weaponize government contracting to build them more domestically which would increase supply chains towards the United States, increase job production towards the United States, weaponizing contracts. The Department of War would be essential in bringing that. So I would give them about a six. They've done certain things, been very effective. The media has lied terribly about these tariffs which have good things and bad things attached to them, but more good than bad and but overall a lot of these prices are things that are kind of lingering from the Biden administration.
Clay Travis
Ryan, outstanding stuff as always. Where can people find you in addition to the fantastic Clay and Buck podcast network?
Ryan Gardusky
Yeah, Numbers Game podcast is on YouTube now. Please like and subscribe everywhere. I heart radio app and Apple podcasts and everything like that. And then on my substack with a national populist newsletter and on Twitter at Ryan Garduski.
Clay Travis
Outstanding stuff. Have a good weekend man and happy holiday season.
Ryan Gardusky
Yes. Merry Christmas.
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
In here to Clay and Buck and we are looking to take a number of calls and also get in some of your talkbacks and and keep it, keep it all going along here. I can't believe last week Clay is going to be our last live week of the show.
Clay Travis
That's right here.
Buck Sexton
Clay is going to be closing you guys out next Thursday. Friday I will be recording the audiobook of Manufacturing Delusion. I hope you've gone to buy this. Clay's telling me how much fun that's going to be. I'm sure it's going to be very fun to record for 24 hours. Like actual 24 hours of recording is I think what they've got me set up for. So that's going to be great. But go buy Manufacturing Delusion rather get the pre order of it if you would. Wherever you get books, Amazon's a good place. Get some books going for the new year that comes out February 17th. JJ podcast listener Janet from Milwaukee talk back.
Ryan Gardusky
JJ hit it as a former VP of HR wanted to weigh on this whole University of Michigan situation. I understand what you're saying.
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Especially in her case when she got a significant pay increase. She could say it was a quid pro quo, right?
Clay Travis
I totally understand her argument. My point is she benefited benefited from this. She knew that she shouldn't be doing it, he should be fired and was I don't think she should get a payout or she should get a settlement or kit to keep her job. She may. And so my point is just they both engaged in wrongdoing, he is paying tremendous consequences. I mean obviously he engaged allegedly in criminal behavior, which is different. But even if that hadn't happened, he lost his job. His whole family finds out about it. She gets to to keep her job and gets paid for engaging in inappropriate behavior. That just doesn't seem right to me. I bet it doesn't to most people either.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton SHOW final half hour of the week as we are rolling into what I imagine will be for many of you a very busy holiday weekend with a lot of different aspects going on there. Let's see, we got so many different talkbacks. I'm going to dive into some of those in a moment. But, but I thought this was funny. Buck, let's have some fun here. In the last half hour, Gene Simmons was on the red carpet. Legendary Kiss, member of the band there. He was given the Kennedy center honors by Trump. And I don't know if you saw this Buck, but he was asked about his opinion on Trump and he went off. And I think y' all are going to enjoy this. This is cut 25.
Buck Sexton
What's your take on his job performance so far?
Ryan Gardusky
Are you supportive of the way he's handling the office? Why do you care? I'd be interested to see what you think if you've known them for all.
Buck Sexton
Nonsense, it's all clickbait. When I was first starting to vote, there used to be a curtain and you voted anonymously and you voted your conscience. And nowadays people want to know who you're voting for. The business Is anybody's. It's none of your business. That's why every person. One person, one vote makes the difference. And you guys inflamed the situation by asking people. So who did you vote for? Who are you for? Why do you care who I like.
Ryan Gardusky
And who I don't like? I'm nobody.
Buck Sexton
I stick my tongue out for a living. I would do that now, except the floor's dirty.
Ryan Gardusky
No, don't ignore that. That was very funny.
Buck Sexton
What are you most excited about tonight? I have a hot chick with me, and I'm set.
Clay Travis
So, Gene Simmons. That's a pretty good red carpet interview. We got a bunch of talk.
Buck Sexton
That's a Clay Travis approved ending right there. Hot chick with me, and I'm set.
Clay Travis
You probably remember, I think the hot chick with him is Shannon Tweed. Do you remember her from back in the day? Cinemax. Cinemax star, as some may recall, can.
Buck Sexton
Neither confirm nor deny.
Clay Travis
I believe that is the woman that he was. That he was with. We got some funny talkbacks. Geo in Iowa says podcast listener CeCe Clay.
Buck Sexton
Good news and bad news. I saw a statistic, and it says that 92% of all flute players drink rose wine. But the bad news is the other 8% are men. Merry Christmas, guys.
Clay Travis
Love your show.
Buck Sexton
Thank you.
Clay Travis
That is very. That's very well done.
Buck Sexton
Well done, well played. Yeah, I like.
Clay Travis
I like where I guess yesterday you were go. I actually, I. I'm gonna sign off on this. I don't even know, because I can tell from the podcast listener. You must have been talking about yesterday hating wrapping paper.
Buck Sexton
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, big time.
Clay Travis
I. I think the wrapping paper industry is maybe the most.
Buck Sexton
Oh, yeah, Yesterday. You don't even know. I figured I was getting ambushed. Buddy, I'm here taking grenades while you're flying, drinking your rose, you know, enjoying the friendly skies. I'm just here, you know, getting bayoneted for my beliefs. When it comes to wrapping paper, people are telling me that I. Not only am I supposed to get Carrie. Cause, you know, her birthday is Christmas. On Christmas Day, I'm supposed to get her two presents. Because even if it's a really nice one present, it looks like a twofer. That was one complaint. That was from. That was from the ladies. And then we had some men and women who were saying, and you need to make sure you use Christmas paper for one and birthday wrapping paper for the other. I'm like, isn't wrapping paper just, like geometric design sometimes? What's the difference?
Clay Travis
I think wrapping paper may be the most Big, big Rap is going to come after me on this, but I think it may be the most useless of all products. I don't buy into it, but the podcast listener here, I figured this. You must have been talking about it because EE is fired up. This is Deborah. Deborah's got some. You got some explaining to do for Deborah. Let's listen.
Ryan Gardusky
Okay, Buck. In regards to gift wrapping, birthday, get presents in Christmas wrap. Don't do it. It is a small thing but will pay big dividends. She will notice the thought and effort. Get a gift bag and tissue paper if wrapping is such an issue for you. I know so many people who have birthdays in December, especially the week of Christmas and they really do appreciate but having their birthday celebrated separately. So dude, man up and do it right.
Buck Sexton
I'm getting, getting called out. You know, I got the man card revoked last week by the truckers. I get lady telling me to man up over here over the wrapping paper. You know Clay, we just, we just take the slings and arrows here on, on this show. Slings and arrows.
Clay Travis
Well, and this is one of your fights that I don't even have enough knowledge to be able to get involved in. But the gun guys are firing back at you as well.
Buck Sexton
There's some guys out there like me, the precision, the ergonomics of like a Glock. And there are other guys out there who like to maybe do Revolutionary War reenactments with their blunderbuss and they also happen to have the Colt 1911 model. That's OK guys. Like I said, the Colt 1911 goes.
Clay Travis
Well with your walker.
Buck Sexton
Don't blame me. It's just the way it is. I like that you celebrate history because.
Clay Travis
Apparently you're a part of it. Blunderbuss is such a good word. Mike in Utah is now going to be even doubly triggered over the battles relating to weaponry.
Buck Sexton
BB you keep making fun of. 1911's not a good idea. Got a lot of pistols and a.
Ryan Gardusky
Lot of rifles, but the best sweet.
Buck Sexton
Shooting gun I have is a pistol. It's a 1911 Para Ordnance Double stack.
Clay Travis
I like all pistols, like all revolvers. Like most rifles, if I had to pick what the guy who would be upset about your opinion of his gun would sound like. That's that exact guy.
Ryan Gardusky
Yeah.
Clay Travis
That is like he should be playing the role.
Buck Sexton
Like John Wayne just called in to tell me to stop making fun of. We had a guy call in who says he likes his snub nose revolver and I'm like look, that's great. You Just want to have a slight paunch and a tie that's not very long and be a detective, like Detective Rizzo or something from a 70s cop show. Cause that's what wheel guns are for. Like, everybody. Guns, just like cars, comes with certain personality, you know? So some of them are calling me out for the Glock and saying, I got small hands because of it. That's okay.
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I'll take that heat.
Buck Sexton
I'm a Glock guy, a Sig guy, a staccato guy. Those are the guns.
Clay Travis
How many guns do you own? Own ballpark.
Buck Sexton
Like, only six or seven right now. Not that.
Clay Travis
What do you think you have to own to be considered a real serious gun guy?
Buck Sexton
Oh, man.
Ryan Gardusky
I don't.
Buck Sexton
I mean, I don't know. I've got. I think it depends also.
Clay Travis
Are you.
Buck Sexton
Are you we taking into account someone who lives in an urban setting or just. Because then it's a space thing, Right? Like, I have a gun safe. If I lived in a house where I could have a gun room. Different situation. So I feel like there's really a variability based on the square footage you're dealing with.
Ryan Gardusky
With.
Buck Sexton
Because, like, I talked to Carrie. She's like, do you really need a second gun safe? And that's when I say, honey, need is such a broad word.
Clay Travis
Well, you could respond and say, do you really need all those shoes? Well, I was really. That would really get things accelerated.
Buck Sexton
You know, Wife looked beautiful last night, but I looked at the shoes, I was like, are those comfortable? She looked at me like, are you out of your mind? This is what I always say about these high heels. Like, the wife looked amazing. You know, I couldn't be happier with.
Clay Travis
Have you ever worn an uncomfortable pair of shoes in your life?
Buck Sexton
Life? Yeah, when I used to have to wear, like, a suit and tie and stuff.
Clay Travis
But you would. Even your, like, fancy. I. I don't think I've ever. I can't even experience what the average woman would feel like on uncomfortable shoes because I've never done it. I noticed at the party last night, there was a bench along the back wall. And at one point, I looked over, and there were like, eight different women in high heels all seated one by one next to each other. And, I mean, if I ever wore a shoe that gave me blisters or ripped any of my skin off, I would burn the shoe. Women are willing to sacrifice over what the shoe looks like in a way that I just never.
Buck Sexton
I give my parents full credit for this. Both my mom and my dad, they are huge advocates of comfortable footwear. That's what they say, comfortable footwear. And for men and for. However you're going to. Whatever it is for you. Like, you like cowboy boots. I had a pair of cowboy boots. One that. It was like putting me. It was like putting the Iron Maiden, Middle East, I mean, middle aged torture device on my feet. Like they just cut up my feet all the time. I cannot. I could not wear boots. You love your boots, so whatever's comfortable for you. But to your point, it is so hard to enjoy yourself and you get tired so much faster if your feet are uncomfortable. The feet are the foundation. You gotta have comfortable feet. Ladies and gentlemen, I can't even imagine.
Clay Travis
Trying to walk around at a holiday party in anything that producer alley.
Buck Sexton
See, she's got. They've gotten to her. Big fashion has gotten to her. Heels are the worst. She writes, but they make the gams look. Look great. No one's debating that they look great. But I mean, I'm gonna have. I practically had to carry my wife fireman style home last night. She's like six inch heels on.
Clay Travis
Look. Also, this is significant. Ali's probably right. She wouldn't have gotten Moby if she had just worn regular shoes.
Buck Sexton
Well, that's. But I mean, think about the Moby, the height difference.
Clay Travis
I know, but he probably loves looking at a tall woman like Ali. Ali. 52 goes to 5 4.
Buck Sexton
I didn't know that Moby was in the cast of Lord of the Rings, but if you look closely enough, it turns out Frodo.
Clay Travis
And then Ali ended up marrying a guy who's like 6 8. Gerard's a monster of a guy.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clay Travis
What? Really?
Buck Sexton
Ally, let's be honest. Why did Moby really come up short? No pun intended. You know what I'm saying? You know, she, she. Ali's like, I'm gonna wait for the super tall, dark, handsome guy.
Clay Travis
And also she's screaming that it's time for a read right now. Yeah, yeah, right now.
Buck Sexton
He's not superficial. She just wanted a husband who's super handsome with a six pack. That's cool. That's cool. You know, I respect where she's going.
Clay Travis
I bet Gerard's a better musician than Moby too. Watch as I deliver my prize picks. Picks. Here, look, this is super simple. I just picked a bunch of quarterbacks and I said, they're going to have more touchdowns. All you have to do at prize picks is pick more or less. Okay? NFL action underway. Army Navy this weekend. I know we got a lot of people go army beat Navy. A lot of people chanting out there one way or the other. Tua more passing touchdowns. Dak more passing touchdowns. Sam Darnold more passing touchdowns. Bryce Young more passing touchdowns touchdowns. And Shador Sanders more passing touchdowns. If I am correct, that pays out at 6 to 1. You can play along with us. I just retweeted it. So for those of you out there, I had a guy email me yesterday. He said, clay, I'm always driving or I'm super busy. You go through those picks so fast. They're up on clayandbuck.com they're on my Twitter feed. I try to share the weekly pick. I am hitting retweet as we speak right now so it will be up on my timeline at Clay Travis on Twitter. All of that. When you play $5, you get $50 deposited in your account. You can download the app, you can get hooked up and have some fun with football this weekend as the NFL keeps setting record ratings. Everybody kicking their feet up and watching. Let's see if we can get a winner here. Prizepix.com Code Clay $5 turns into $50. That's pricepicks.com Code Clay keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
U n D welcome back into Clay and Buck. We are closing up shop before we send you off for this weekend and want to tell you that Nita, we are going to be there's going to be a live Clan Buck show all next week. It'll be us or a version thereof. Clay's going to be solo Thursday, Friday and it's not because I'm heading off to Cabo. I'm going to be recording Manufacturing Delusion audiobook for my book. So so please those of you who are audiobook people, you can already you can get that. You can buy that and it will be downloaded the day the book is released. Guest host though Clay during the holidays. Yes, meaning that there will be live Clay and Buck shows. We're gonna have fantastic guest hosts. Brett Winterbowl of wbt, John Cobalt of KFI out in la. It's a huge, huge station. Brian Mudd of wjno, our good buddy from West Palm, David Rutherford, former Navy SEAL of the Clay and Buck Podcast Network and tutor Dixon of Michigan, also of the Clay and Buck Podcast Network. So all all people who will do really great shows. So if any of you are going to be tuning into the news or just want someone to hang with it all over the holiday weeks, we will have some great, great people.
Clay Travis
I promise you. You're not going to be will be together Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Then you're going to be doing the book. 20 minutes in, you'll be like, I would kill to be.
Buck Sexton
I'm probably going to send you some live. I'm going to send you some live upd People.
Clay Travis
Don't miss radio. I did. I did the balls book read. I've done the last three of my books. They just put you basically in a windowless container and you sit directly in front of a mic and there you have to flip through and you imagine how tough this was for me. Any word you mispronounce, any unnecessary verbiage that comes out or sound or anything else and you constantly. I mean, you have to read every word. This is probably something that AI is eventually going to be able to do. That will be one that I look forward to.
Buck Sexton
We don't want AI to get too good at talking and sounding like us. That's not good either, you know, but we want it to be helpful with things like this.
Clay Travis
In fact, this is fine. I was with the Fox sports crew at the big ten title game this past weekend and they now have Colin Cowherd's one of the biggest names. Buddy of mine, biggest names in sports talk radio. They now have AI that is soon going to debut where you can ask Colin Cowherd any question about sports under the sun and it automatically gives an answer. His voice in a perspective that they've done based on analyzing all of the shows that he's done. So you can basically have him in the pocket of your hand. And I thought to myself, oh, man, this is going to be clay and buck. At some point they're going to decide because we talk for 15 hours a week week to give us one of these AI things. But then it's going to eventually lead into honestly where you can't tell what's real and what's not.
Buck Sexton
Right?
Clay Travis
Because AI is getting so advanced that they can take a voice like mine or a voice like yours and have us saying anything under the sun. And I think it's going to become an issue for politicians, for people who are in public life, heck, maybe just for normal people. I think also it's going to really get complicated for elderly people, but because I think they're going to start to scam people by making you think, oh, that's my grandson or granddaughter.
Buck Sexton
That's already happened. It's just going to get more and more sophisticated. Talkbacks here. AA weighing in on the wrapping paper debacle. Play it. Hey, guys, Tyson here. Northern Minnesota truck driver, farmer.
Clay Travis
Bring the wheat to the mill.
Buck Sexton
Anyways, for those who need special wrapping Paper. I hope their parents love them enough to pack them chalk as a present. And also I'd like to hear what you guys think thoughts would be on the the movie remake of warriors in a mod money New York City. Just thought that would be interesting.
Ryan Gardusky
Have a good one.
Buck Sexton
Oh, Warriors Momdani New York City. Look, New Mamdani's not the mayor yet, so we haven't seen anything that crazy. Go on. I'm going to tell you something. I actually have not seen the movie Warriors. I've seen the jiu Jitsu movie with Tom Hardy, Warrior, which I actually thought was good and enjoyed. Have you seen Warriors?
Clay Travis
No, I haven't because I saw that. I was hoping you had because I know that we're gonna get blown up probably for not having seen this movie. So I can't even give a good answer to a second part.
Buck Sexton
70S when is when the movie producer. You know who's definitely seen it? Producer Mike. Producer Mike, do you have a take for us on warriors or producer Greg? Either of you. It's good. Oh, okay. He said okay. Yeah. I knew these guys had seen it. Movie Warriors. I'm trying to think when it. When it came out it movie Warrior79 I was gonna say. Right. A little bit before I was born. It's a bunch of gangs, not Gangs of New York. Obviously that's a different movie where I honestly think that Daniel Day Lewis is the only reason to watch that movie. But that's a whole other thing. Warriors come out and play is the famous line. Oh, I've not seen this one. I'm at the. Check it out. We will see. But yeah, there used to be. New York used to be the backdrop.
Clay Travis
For a lot of.
Buck Sexton
Of urban hellscape movies. Largely because of not just this, the urban decay. But there's so much graffiti. The city was. Graffiti was a plague. And it was. When I was in the 80s, it was terrible.
Clay Travis
There's graffiti. If you look at some of the situations of Paris. Paris has been overrun by graffiti of late. Right?
Buck Sexton
I mean, such a bad sign of. Of where things stand. KK Brian from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Let's hear it. Him. Okay, Buck. The difference between us 1911 users and the rest of you is we only need seven rounds because we're that good a shot. And we only need one round per target.
Clay Travis
Not multiple rounds with those tiny little 9 mm.
Buck Sexton
We don't need. It's in the gadgets. We get it done. We get ourselves a long rifle and then we really take. Look, Brian, I want to be clear. I respect that you still use a musket and that you're willing to take the little powder horn and go through that whole process. But when you fire and miss with your musket, just know that I will be there with my staccato 9 milli and I got your back.
Clay Travis
Don't worry about it. Oh, all the gun trash talk. You will see me in four minutes on Fox News, talking with Martha McCollum. I believe so I'll see you guys there.
Buck Sexton
I'm like Clay's handler.
Clay Travis
I'm gonna run him out. Like I've got to get there, got to get there.
Buck Sexton
We'll see you all on Monday. Have a great weekend, everybody. Merry Christmas.
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Episode: Hour 3 – Nerding Out with Ryan Girdusky
Date: December 12, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
In this lively final hour of the week, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton welcome political analyst and writer Ryan Girdusky for an in-depth, data-driven discussion about immigration trends, housing markets, and policy impacts under the Trump administration. The episode also features the hosts’ trademark banter, listener call-ins, jokes about gift wrapping and guns, and reflections on AI’s future in radio.
The main focus centers around Girdusky’s unique insights into recent birth data and its implications on illegal immigration, as well as the policy levers available to further influence demographic and economic trends going into the 2024 election season.
Segment Start: [03:40]
Main Theme: Using CDC birth and other government data to assess illegal immigration flows and enforcement outcomes.
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Key Findings:
Understanding ‘Self-Deportation’:
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Summary prepared for listeners wanting the full picture without the fluff.