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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Yes.
Buck Sexton
Listen to Armstrong, you Getty on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre.
Newt Gingrich
And insane I can't begin to tell you.
Buck Sexton
Please to hear the whole story. Listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in final hour of the week, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We'll take some of your calls in the course of the final hour of the week. Buck will be back with me on Tuesday in Washington dc. We'll be there together. I will be in DC starting on Monday. Had an awesome time running around all over the place with my kids as school just ended. So I'm back with you guys for a while now, up until July 4th for sure. We're going to be talking with Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House, at the bottom of the hour. I'm also told that our astrologer who called in from Rochester, New York to break down the Trump and Elon controversy, she has also broken down my astrology chart. And according to producer Greg, she will be back with us at 2:45 to tell us how my prognosis looks. So fingers crossed on that. That's still to come. But I want to dive back into certainly the story of the day, which is the ongoing fallout between Donald Trump and Elon Musk. And I spent much of the first hour sort of psychologically analyzing it. What I think brought on Elon Musk to me essentially having a temper, temper tantrum yesterday afternoon. Why I don't think that there is any truth at all to the Epstein allegation against Trump from Elon and what I think is really sort of the undercurrent of the conflict and why it grew there. Top of the second hour, I dove into how it impacts the so called big beautiful bill as it continues to work its way through the United States Senate. And here I'll kind of dive back into both of those components and explain why I think it's so important that these guys work together going forward. So I think it's so important for all of you to go sign up for the Clay Travis Buck Sexton Podcast network because I know it is holiday season, it is summer break time and many people are going to be on the road, you're going to be in different parts of the country, maybe even different parts of the world. And if you want to know what's going on, boom, you can pop us in, you can listen to the show. And also we have built an incredible network of shows and they run the gamut from a wide variety of perspectives. And those are all included in our Clay and Buck podcast feed. So you can find a variety of different perspectives, whatever you are interested in, simply by going to Clay and Buck podcast feed. You can certainly find us@clayandbuck.com and we love all of you however you are listening, including on our believe it's 555 different stations nationwide in all 50 states. Um, okay, so why is it important that Trump and Elon have a strong relationship going forward? Trump's president for the next three and a half years. So whatever Elon is wanting to get done. He tweeted at some point, hey, you've only got Trump for the next three and a half years. You've got me for the next 40. Maybe that's true. I hope Elon is supremely healthy. He's 53 years old. I want everybody to have long and fertile lives. And certainly Elon's had already quite a fertile life in the literal sense and the figurative sense. But the evolution of Elon is important beyond Trump, and let me explain why I think that is the case. So I want Trump and Elon to get along well, because I believe that since Elon endorsed Trump on July 13 in the immediate aftermath of the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt, that the country has benefited immensely from the partnership between Trump and Elon. And that partnership really has only existed for about nine months. Right. This is basically a Hollywood relationship length relationship. We have a situation where Trump voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016, 2016, where he voted for Joe Biden in 2020, and Elon didn't vote for Trump until July of 2024. If you have a right now, boy, I got to meet Buck and Carey's baby in Palm Beach. James Speed Sexton. Awesome little kid. He's only a couple months old, super cute. If you have a. Let me do the math in my head. If you have a tad account there, you saw the fingers move. If you were watching on, on video. If you have a 10 month old kid or grandkid right now, that kid is the same age as the relationship between Trump and Elon. This is a brand new relationship. There is not a lot of basis behind it. And yet it's been incredibly productive and incredibly important, I believe, for the success of the country, not only now, but in the years ahead. I think the 2024 election was incredibly consequential. And I do believe that even though Trump has said I would have won the election even if Elon had not gotten involved, I do believe that Trump won a grander and more substantial election victory because of Elon Musk support than he would have if Elon Musk had not endorsed at all, or if Elon Musk had said, hey, I'm all on board for Kamala Harris, but Elon Musk is, relatively speaking, newly involved in politics. I believe Elon's decision to buy Twitter, turn it into X in 2022 was profoundly transformative for the trajectory of the nation, not because at that time he espoused any particular political belief, but simply because having a truly robust and uninhibited marketplace of ideas is necessary in order for this country to flourish, particularly in an AI age? Why do I think that? Why do I think that we have to have a robust marketplace of ideas, especially in an AI age? Because I believe, and have long believed, that the only way you get new, disruptive, positive growth economically, that is transformative, is by having the full scope of the marketplace of ideas available to creators. In other words, if you do not have intellectual freedom, I think your ability to create new products is stifled. That's why I think. I don't hear anybody else make this argument. That's why I think ultimately America stands to dominate in AI like we have dominated in the Internet. Because I don't understand how Chinese AI can be reliable. If the Chinese Internet does not allow me to know about what happened in Tiananmen Square, then how in the world can it create the best possible landscape of responses in the future when it's being censored in terms of the results? This is why the whole Covid universe was so offensive to me. Because science is based on challenging all authority. The entire basis of the scientific method is distinguishing between a hypothesis and a theory and challenging everything. So when you had Dr. Fauci lecturing everyone and saying I am the science, he was arguing against science himself because he was saying that science shouldn't be challenged. We have to challenge everything. And the marketplace of ideas allows everything to be challenged, but only if it is fairly applied evenly from a principled perspective. And I think what Elon saw is Elon's ultimate goal is to put men on and women on Mars, to make us a multi planetary species. You can argue that you don't care about that. You can think it's relatively inconsequential, insignificant even. But that is the spark that is fueling Elon's obsession with everything. And I think what he recognized was, well, maybe I can save the United States climate to some degree by electric vehicles. But if I don't allow the meritocracy to flourish, if I do not allow the best man or the best woman to get a job, if DEI triumphs, then ultimately it destroys our ability to make humanity a multi planetary species. Because it doesn't unlock the great gifts of the most talented among us and instead leads to some array of cosmetic diversity. So you end up frankly with Kamala Harris and with Karine Jean Pierre. I'm not saying black women aren't successful or can't be incredibly accomplished. Many of them can. I am saying you cannot hire someone based on their race and gender and argue that that is the justification for why they should have that position of power. Karine Jean Pierre, you're now hearing people inside the Biden White House say, yeah, far from being a transformative figure because she was black and gay, she was actually really awful at her job and she didn't do basic homework. The only reason Karine Jean Pierre was the White House chief spokesperson was because she was black and gay. When you elevate people to positions that they otherwise are unable to achieve and can't even do the job of because of their race and gender, then you are devaluing the meritocracy which ultimately destroys everything in terms of our ability to have the best possible result. And that, to me, is why Kamala Harris was the ultimate DEI candidate. She looks like what people on the left think leaders should look like, not based on anything she's done, just based on the cosmetic diversity. And I think what Elon recognizes is that the only diversity that matters in America is diversity of thought. Because why do I care if a bunch of people who look different think the same? That's Harvard. Sadly, it's the Harvard faculty. The only thing that matters is whether you're getting a variety of perspectives to allow you to make the best possible decision to get the best result. And so I think what Elon saw when he decided to get Twitter is that if the marketplace of ideas is broken, then the overall American marketplace collapses. And I think what he sees with AI is the ultimate value of the best possible AI is going to determine the success or failure in the future. Now, that requires moving fast, breaking a lot of things. The government. He tried to move fast, and he tried to break a lot of things. One of the things he said, hey, if we get something wrong, we'll go back and fix it. But it's better to get something wrong and go back and fix it than not to do anything at all. Most people in government actually would prefer not to do anything at all. They don't want to really change what exists there. And so in order for the future to matter in a substantial way, we have to have people like Elon Musk involved, because Trump, he's right. Only has three and a half more years in office. And I think what you're seeing already is there is a sweepstakes developing on the right to try to become Elon's favored candidate in 2028. Because the idea is if Elon spent $300 million on Trump, $300 million in a Republican primary to help elevate his preferred candidate could be the difference maker between who is the nominee and who's not. Now, the relationship between Elon and JD Vance actually seems quite strong because Elon said that Trump should be impeached and J.D. vance should be elevated. Now, J.D. vance has responded and basically said, hey, you know, Trump is doing amazing work. He's an incredible guy. But this is the difficulty of being Vice President is J.D. vance posted a picture of himself with Theo Vaughn. I guess he was in town here in Nashville doing a podcast and chair doing a fundraising event in Nashville. But the analogy was really funny that basically JD Vance was the kid who gets sent to sleep over at a friend's house while mom and dad are fighting. And I think the importance here for Elon going forward is he can be a force for tremendous good. But that is the challenge as it plays out going forward. I hope that made sense. I think it did. But the significance of the conflict now is that Elon can be a tremendous force for good going forward. And we need to make sure that he is still engaged at a minimum, and certainly that he is not starting to pull the levers for the other side. Because then we go back to the Twitter that happened in 2020, which was rigged, where fair and free discourse is not allowed and where social media is putting its hand firmly on the side of leftist politics. And unfortunately, I think that leads to BLM riots. I think that leads to Joe Biden Weekend at Bernie style presidencies. I think it leads to immeasurable corruption. We need a fair and open marketplace of ideas where the best ideas can win. 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Buck Sexton
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We're going to be joined by Newt Gingrich here in a moment. New book, Trump's America's Greatest Comeback. We'll get what his thoughts are. I know he was weighing in on Trump and Elon. See what his latest thoughts are on that. Although I would point out again, the temper tantrum theory from Elon is quite, I think cogent at this point because he's been very, very quiet. Also, you're probably not going to Hear this many places but The S&P 500 gathering measurement of the 500 largest companies in America is back over 6,000 and within a 1 1/2 points, 1 1/2 percentage or so from an all time high. I wanted to make sure that I mentioned that to you because I do think it's consequential. When everybody out there was telling you panic, oh my goodness, what in the world's going on? The world's falling apart. Sell your stocks. If you had bought at the bottom of the stock market, you would have made 20% from those bottom levels just by not panicking and buying more stocks instead of selling. If you are the kind of person who does not do well with fear, you worry too much about what you lost. If you had just dialed out and not paid attention, your stocks are back to near record high prices already. And what if the worst case scenario happened? What if you had bought at the absolute top of the market this year right when The S&P 500 and the Dow were setting all time highs? You would have lost at this point on paper, one and a half percent of your total assets again, that is, if you bought at the absolute day that the all time high was set, you would have lost one and a half percent of your assets. And if you just buy and hold. I want to hammer this home because it is really good financial advice. If you just buy and hold index funds every 10 years on average, your money is going to double. Most people get themselves out of sorts by panicking and selling at the bottom of markets and buying at the top. Buy and hold is the ultimate strategy. If you dividend, reinvest. If you constantly are buying, you're gonna do really, really well. I hope you guys listened to us. When everybody was panicking we said stay calm. Back over 6,000 record highs very, very close at this point in time. And I want to tell you all about our friends. As we mentioned that we were traveling and going all over the place with advertisers in recent history. We love everybody who is sponsoring this show and this company has done an amazing job for so many people. Paradigm Press. We've seen other countries develop sovereign wealth as a way of sharing their opportunities. There are great people who believe our nation has an asset that could be worth as much as $150 trillion buried under American soil. Time will tell whether it makes sense to hear more about Jim Rickards. He's a former advisor to the White House and Federal Reserve. He says if you're over 50, this could be your best Chance to build lasting wealth. To hear more of what he thinks, go to birthright2025.com if he's right, it could really help people make a lot. Birthright2025.com to get the details free of charge, paid for by Paradigm Press, we are joined now by former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. He has got a brand new book out, Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback. We'll get into the Elon thing in a sec, but Speaker Gingrich, appreciate you coming on with us. You've been on with us several times. You are a student of history. Is there any doubt that Trump coming back to win the election is the greatest American political comeback of all time? Can you even think of a comparison? And in the historical record, based on your knowledge?
Newt Gingrich
No. Both because he was in office, lost office, got back into office, which is tied only by GROVER Cleveland in 1892. But even deeper, he had built such a strong following that Trump defeated Biden and then pivoted and a couple months later defeated Harris. No other candidate has defeated two major opponents in one year. And the very fact that he's still standing. This is part of why I wrote Trump's triumph, which I began writing back in October, because I was convinced he was going to win. You think about everything they threw at him now since he walked down the elevator or the escalator in 2015. 10 years pounding away at him, and he's still standing. And now he's once again president. So it's a remarkable achievement.
Buck Sexton
Is there anybody that you even think about historically outside of the United States? You mentioned Grover Cleveland, because one of the great things about history is one you can learn about everybody that came before you. But you can also try to extrapolate how people that we don't know hundreds of years from now will look back. This is really a pretty incredible era. From the moment Trump came down the escalator, people are going to be grappling with his legacy for the next several hundred years.
Newt Gingrich
Oh, I think that's right. I think particularly if he can win the election next year and retain the Republican control of the House, he will, I think, enact so much reform and change the old order so decisively that he will rival everybody except Washington and Lincoln as the greatest, one of the greatest change agents in American history. And it's truly astonishing to watch him work to realize how many different things he's doing at the same time and how determined he is to literally make America great again.
Buck Sexton
Trump is the most powerful person, I think it's fair to say in the world, Elon Musk is the richest. Yesterday, Elon had basically what felt to me like a temper tantrum on Twitter. He seems to have dialed it back today. I imagine you have met Elon at some point in time. I know you know Trump well. What is your take over what happened yesterday, the relationship between the two and where it goes from here?
Newt Gingrich
Look, you have two very powerful personalities who are also very powerful in real sources. I mean, President Trump is the most powerful man in the world and Elon Musk is the richest. So it's pretty interesting. I think Elon sort of had a temper tantrum and melted down. When you do 40 tweets in one day, you are sort of undermining yourself because it's hard for anyone to take you seriously when you do that many. And I think he was just, he was angry, upset, didn't know what to do and acted it all out in public, which I don't think in the long run was to Elon Musk's advantage because he's, you know, he is a brilliant guy. What he's done with SpaceX, for example, has single handedly put America back in the lead in space. So he's a remarkable person. But at the same time, he's not the President. He didn't have 77 million people vote for him. He's not in a position to wield the kind of power that the Constitution gives only to the President of the United States. And I think somehow hanging out at Mar A Largo and then hanging out at the White House, Elon forgot that he was a supporter to the incumbent President. He wasn't an alternative.
Buck Sexton
You said you think Trump's term in office can be truly transformative if he's able to retain control of the House. Republicans are in the midterms next year. What do you think now about the squabble surrounding the so called big beautiful bill? Speaker Johnson got it through on the House side. Senate, there are obstacles. What would your take be based on what you have seen of this bill? What should happen? What will happen?
Newt Gingrich
Well, I think it should pass and I think it will pass. It'll change form a little bit. And that's the way it's supposed to be. Look, the Founding Fathers did not want to build a machine that you could make work so easily that a dictator could make it work. So they designed a machine that is so hard that we can barely get it to work voluntarily. And they would be very happy with that. They'd say yeah, the price of freedom is that you disperse power. So you've got to get a lot of people to sign off. Well, that's frustrating. It's difficult. Mike Johnson has done a great job as speaker of the House and frankly, Senator Thune, the majority leader in the Senate, is doing a terrific job. And I think that between them, they seem to have a very good understanding. The Senate will change the bill. Some, some of it will actually be an improvement and it has to be done carefully. And if they do it just right, I think they'll bring the bill straight from the Senate without a conference and end up having, I would guess, a vote in the House. And it'll be close, but my hunch is that it will win. This is the heart of the Trump project. He has to have this bill for the economy to boom. And I think if they get this bill through by next June or July, we'll be in what will be called the Trump boom. And we'll be creating jobs at an unbelievable rate and take home pay will be going up and affordability will be increasing and people are going to think, you know, this was worth the effort.
Buck Sexton
How durable is Trump is in post Trump?
Newt Gingrich
Well, I think one of the reasons he picked J.D. vance to be his vice president, Vance was a year younger than Nixon was when Eisenhower picked him. And I think one of the reasons he did it is he wanted somebody who could carry on the basic core messages. And he thought that JD Sort of had that in his head. So I think guys are pretty good. I mean, one of the points of my book, Trump's Triumph, the American People's Greatest Comeback, is that you really had a message, a movement and a messenger come together. That going all the way back to Goldwater in 64, there had been a gradual, steady increase in the desire to replace the Washington establishment. And the Trump came along and really focused and gave voice to the movement. And I think that's now real. I think, I think you're not going to see a reversion to a traditional Republican winning the presidency in 2028. It's going to be somebody who shares Trump's values. And the most likely person, frankly, is J.D. vance.
Buck Sexton
For people who are interested in reading the book, what motivated you? You said you thought Trump was gonna win, but you're a history guy, too. Were you partly writing this book to cont visualize the history in real time? What motivated you? You've written a lot over the years.
Newt Gingrich
Well, so much has been going on. I wanted to put it all in historic context and the book both takes you back to how Trump got here, but it also projects forward where I think it's going to go. And I have to say, even though we began writing in October and finished in early February, when we went back and reviewed the book just before its publication, the only two things we missed were the Gulf of America and the desire to annex Canada in Greenmond. Other than that, the book really did a pretty good job of capturing where the MAGA movement was going and where Trump was going.
Buck Sexton
Speaker Newt Gingrich, we appreciate the time. Have a good weekend. The book Trump's America's Greatest Comeback, and we hope you're having a lot of fun on the road promoting it. And thanks for the time today.
Newt Gingrich
Thank you. Take care.
Buck Sexton
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Astrologer
That's the horse he'd be if he were a horse. Make people like that very often.
Buck Sexton
If Trump were a horse, he would be Secretariat. That is a heck of an analogy. And if you watch, by the way, some of those old clips, Secretary at the numbers that Secretary had posted would still be off the charts today. Every athlete, it seems like, has gone gotten bigger, stronger and faster, except for horses, none of which can reach what Secretariat did. And I said, oh, how does my chart look? And so you got. I was born April 6, Nashville, Tennessee, 1979. You got all that info you. I've never had my chart read. What should I know? Are people in trouble who are listening? What should we know?
Astrologer
I empty well, I didn't look at people who are listening. That would be impossible. But I just brought up the chart of the show from its beginning for, you know, at 12:05pm on the 21st of June 20, 2021. And it doesn't look like it's going anywhere. It looks pretty solid. It should have an emphasis on investigative stuff and going deep. And there may be times when there's contention. People, you know, call up. People call up and are very, you know, there's a lot of controversy. But you've got the sun and Mercury up at the midheaven with the the north node in the ninth house next to the midheaven. You couldn't do better than that. And you've got great people working on it with Jupiter in the sixth house and it's a serious show with Pluto and Saturn in the six Rush Limbo with the Capricorn which also. Which also buckets. And so they both are in harmony with your natal ascendant, Rush Limbaugh. Venus was in Pisces near your Mercury, so it was kind of a good fit for everybody. Now, as far as you go personally. Hello.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm on bated breath here because all that was great. Yeah, well, I was just. I was getting nervous because all that stuff sounds amazing. And then, you know, a lot of times people are like, you know, I really like your personality. But, you know, usually like all the good news and then there's a but thrown in there, and then things go a bit askew. Am I in trouble based on the charts or am I looking good? What. What should I know?
Astrologer
Well, you perfectly reflect you. And you must have done some good stuff in a past life. The only thing that worries me, because you're doing exactly what you should do. You were born to be a lawyer. You were born to be on the radio. You were born to go through a transition in your professional and broadcasting life with that Pluto in the ninth house. And you've got a lot of strength there. You're never going to have to worry about money. You sometimes can get very sharp verbally, which you're supposed to. And there was some issue about whether to practice law or not. And I suspect also that you took your time deciding on to get married, but when you did, you picked. It looks like you made a really good choice because the seventh house of marriage, public relations, public image relations and legal matters. Being a lawyer, you not only did you need to do that, but it's really good for you. You've got Moon and Jupiter there. You do some surprising things sometimes publicly, I think. Did you do something? Was there something like. Was a fast to protest something in sports?
Buck Sexton
Yeah, I ate pudding because I was upset because my team wasn't available. Okay, all this is pretty good, but what do I need to be concerned about?
Astrologer
Well, you've got the same problem as Trump in the second house of which is not only. It's not some. It's not a money problem, although you'd like to be very concerned about finances for the sake of your family. And I think that you may, if you don't yet would be well advised to have involvement with real estate.
Buck Sexton
But, yeah, I've got.
Astrologer
Not good for you.
Buck Sexton
That is all pretty accurate.
Astrologer
Yeah. And with Neptune up in the 11th house. The 11th house is a lot of things. You're very idealistic and you have friends who are creative and sensitive and musical and all that good stuff. There's probably stuff. Some of your friends are probably very private people and you don't know everything about them. But where that Neptune is problematic is that it's in the house, the 11th house of blood pressure and it's on the same axis of the fifth house of the heart.
Buck Sexton
So I need to be on top of my blood pressure and my heart. Otherwise, there we go. Have a great weekend. I love all of you.
Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Hour 3: Newt Gingrich, Former Speaker of the House
Podcast Information:
As the final hour of the week unfolds, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton set the stage for an engaging discussion. Clay reflects on balancing family time with the demands of the show, while Buck hints at the intriguing topics ahead, including the high-profile conflict between Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
Clay Travis delves into the heated fallout between former President Donald Trump and tech magnate Elon Musk, analyzing the roots and implications of their conflict:
"What I think brought on Elon Musk to me essentially having a temper, temper tantrum yesterday afternoon." [05:15]
Clay contemplates Musk’s recent aggressive statements, dismissing allegations linking Trump to Epstein as baseless. He emphasizes the critical nature of their partnership for the country's progress, particularly highlighting Musk's influence on technological advancements and economic growth.
"I believe the partnership between Trump and Elon has been incredibly productive and incredibly important for the success of the country, not only now but in the years ahead." [12:45]
The conversation transitions to legislative matters, specifically the "Big Beautiful Bill" navigating the United States Senate. Clay underscores the necessity of bipartisan collaboration to ensure the bill's passage, which he believes is pivotal for economic prosperity.
"We need to make sure that these guys work together going forward." [10:30]
Clay articulates his perspective on why maintaining a strong relationship between Trump and Musk is vital. He posits that Musk's endorsement significantly bolstered Trump's 2024 election victory, attributing a more substantial win to this alliance.
"I do believe Trump won a grander and more substantial election victory because of Elon Musk's support than he would have if Elon Musk had not endorsed at all." [15:20]
Additionally, Clay highlights Musk's vision for a robust marketplace of ideas, essential for innovation, especially in the age of artificial intelligence.
"Having a truly robust and uninhibited marketplace of ideas is necessary in order for this country to flourish, particularly in an AI age." [17:05]
The highlight of the hour is an in-depth interview with Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House and a prominent political strategist. Gingrich brings historical context and foresight into Trump's resurgence in American politics.
Gingrich lauds Trump’s political resurgence as unparalleled in American history, drawing comparisons only to the reintegration of President Grover Cleveland.
"No other candidate has defeated two major opponents in one year." [26:20]
He emphasizes the formation of a formidable movement around Trump, asserting that his impact rivals that of legendary figures like Washington and Lincoln.
"He will rival everybody except Washington and Lincoln as one of the greatest change agents in American history." [27:45]
When discussing the recent discord between Trump and Musk, Gingrich provides his take on Musk’s public outburst, suggesting it may not bode well for Musk in the long run despite his significant contributions through ventures like SpaceX.
"Elon sort of had a temper tantrum and melted down. When you do 40 tweets in one day, you are undermining yourself." [28:40]
Gingrich underscores the importance of Musk recognizing his supportive role to Trump, rather than positioning himself as an alternative powerbase.
"He forgot that he was a supporter to the incumbent President. He wasn't an alternative." [29:15]
Gingrich expresses confidence in the passage of the "Big Beautiful Bill," anticipating it will undergo refinements in the Senate and ultimately secure a favorable vote in the House. He links the bill to an anticipated economic boom under Trump’s continued leadership.
"If they get this bill through by next June or July, we'll be in what will be called the Trump boom." [31:50]
Looking ahead, Gingrich predicts that the Republican Party will continue to align closely with Trump's values, potentially positioning J.D. Vance as a leading candidate for the 2028 presidential race. He believes Vance embodies the necessary continuity of Trump's core messages.
"It's going to be somebody who shares Trump's values. And the most likely person, frankly, is J.D. Vance." [33:10]
Strategic Partnerships: The alliance between political leaders and influential business figures like Musk is pivotal for shaping national policy and economic strategies.
Legislative Success: The passage of significant bills such as the "Big Beautiful Bill" is essential for triggering economic growth and solidifying political agendas.
Historical Significance: Trump's political comeback marks a significant event in American history, demonstrating resilience and the power of grassroots movements.
Future Leadership: The Republican Party is likely to maintain its current trajectory, focusing on leaders who align closely with Trump's vision and values.
"What I think brought on Elon Musk to me essentially having a temper, temper tantrum yesterday afternoon." – Clay Travis [05:15]
"I believe the partnership between Trump and Elon has been incredibly productive and incredibly important for the success of the country, not only now but in the years ahead." – Clay Travis [12:45]
"No other candidate has defeated two major opponents in one year." – Newt Gingrich [26:20]
"He will rival everybody except Washington and Lincoln as one of the greatest change agents in American history." – Newt Gingrich [27:45]
"Elon sort of had a temper tantrum and melted down. When you do 40 tweets in one day, you are undermining yourself." – Newt Gingrich [28:40]
"If they get this bill through by next June or July, we'll be in what will be called the Trump boom." – Newt Gingrich [31:50]
"It's going to be somebody who shares Trump's values. And the most likely person, frankly, is J.D. Vance." – Newt Gingrich [33:10]
Conclusion
This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show offers a profound exploration of the intricate relationship between political power and technological influence through the lens of Donald Trump and Elon Musk's ongoing dynamics. With insights from Newt Gingrich, listeners gain a historical and forward-looking perspective on America's political landscape, the significance of legislative advancements, and the future direction of the Republican Party. This comprehensive discussion underscores the intertwined nature of leadership, policy, and innovation in shaping the nation's trajectory.