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Buck Sexton
All right, third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Thanks for being here with us, everybody. And we just had Caroline Levitt back from maternity leave, talking to the nation from the west wing of the White House. And we have some updates from that for you. We pulled all the most newsworthy and relevant clips, and we're gonna make sure
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Clay Travis
you are up to speed.
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Buck Sexton
As you know, we are live, we are in real time, and we are on YouTube also in real time. So go subscribe to the Clay and Buck YouTube if you're a YouTube viewer out there. And in the meantime, we've got this clay a few things. By the way, we have some funny stuff to get to at the Back of this hour involving a license plate. That's all I can say. That will be the only tease I have for this one. We will have to get there though, Clay, so remind me. But first, the serious business of the republic and what's going on with Caroline Levitt's preview of the speech tonight that President Trump will give at 9 o' clock on. Is it 9 Eastern? Is that right? Talking about.
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Clay Travis
I think that's right, yes.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, yeah. Talking about the time changes on. Well, here's what Caroline, this is cut 30, guys. Here's Caroline Levitt previewing Trump's speech tonight. Let's hear it.
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Caroline Levitt
Part of the problem is that the media has refused to acknowledge that tens of millions of Americans across the country share the concerns of this president about the sanctity of our elections. And your premise of your question, you're jumping ahead to a conclusion in this speech before even hearing it yourself. I think that everyone should tune in tonight, including the people in this room and you should report on the President's speech and the findings that he is going to reveal in this speech with a little bit of honesty and a little bit of integrity, because it does. It will shock you if you have an honest eye listening to the president tonight. And everything he is saying will be backed by facts and by evidence that will be provided this evening. And again, Garrett, again, I think all Americans, Democrat, Republican, should agree that we are the greatest country in the history of the world. We should have the safest and most secure elections in the history of the world. And what the president will be speaking about tonight will show you that perhaps that is not the case. And we need to make some adjustments moving forward, including the Save America act, as Rachel pointed out, is a key legislative priority for this president on Capitol Hill.
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Buck Sexton
Clay, I don't know what the President's going to say tonight and I'm very curious to see it. I will watch it tonight. But I do know, and I would put money on this one, that the people in the press corps who are Trump haters doesn't matter what he says. It doesn't matter. I can appreciate Caroline Levitt asking them to please, just once try to be honest. Spoiler alert, everybody. The Trump hating media will not be honest about whatever it is that he says. So we should at least all be prepared for that as we wait to see what the President has to say.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier is even if President Trump came out and provided the most dyed in the wool, beyond self doubt, beyond criticism, beyond reasonable doubt, evidence that our elections are insecure and that they have been influenced in a way that that makes them unsafe. Msnbc, cnn, New York Times, they're not going to cover it. They're just not. And I. They have decided that President Trump is. They. They cared drastically. It is kind of funny. In 2016, all of them bought the Russia collusion hoax and covered the idea that Russia had rigged our election as if it were the biggest story in the history of the United States. In 2020, Trump said our election was rigged and none of them would cover it. And now in 2024, I think Trump won so comfortably that everybody's just kind of said, yeah, Kamala was an awful candidate. Trump won. I do think, Buck, one of the big lasting questions that is still out there. You and I talked about it yesterday. I. I'll be honest. In 2020, I didn't believe anywhere near as much as I do now that the 81 million Biden votes were illegitimate. And I looked at it and I said, okay, maybe Trump is uniquely able to. In 2020, we know they changed all the rules with ballots and everything else. The fact that Kamala is 6 million less than Biden in 2024 made me go back to 2020 and look at it and say, there's no way that Biden got 81 million legitimate votes. There just isn't. And I think increasing majorities of Americans just look at it. Take away the politics. Whether you're a Trump person, whether you're a Biden person, the question I think you have to ask is, is Joe Biden the most popular presidential candidate to ever run in the history of the United States? I think there's not one single person in America that would say that. I'll put it this way, Buck. We're making fun of Biden announcing that he's releasing a book this week. Have you ever seen anybody wear Biden gear?
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Buck Sexton
Yes. No. No. Excuse me. Excuse me, sir. Some of the illegals who were showing up at the border were wearing Biden T shirts. They were very excited, very excited about Biden's presidency.
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Clay Travis
So the reason why I bring it up, you might say, ok, Clay, why would you even bring up the idea of Biden gear? What? When you wear something like, right now, I'm wearing an Atlanta Braves T shirt, right? When you wear something that you are committed to that shows you are a member of a tribe, it shows a depth of commitment. Whatever you think about Trump, the red MAGA hat is an unbelievably powerful sign of how much depth of support there is for Trump. Right. I don't ever remember seeing anyone wear in their normal existing life, Biden gear. And so I think you just reasonably look at all of this and say, is there a depth of support of Joe Biden? You went through with Grok, was it yesterday? I think you were reading what Grok said about the 81 million votes that Biden got in the wake of the 2024 election. We can test Trump. 2016, 20, 2024. There are 12 years basically, of Trump data out there now since he came down the, the, the escalator and began his political career. There's about 12 years of data ish of what Trump represents on the American political landscape. There's no way Biden got 81 million legal votes. It just, I, I, I do not believe it. Now. I don't think there's any way that a New York Times reporter would ever say what I just said, no matter what the evidence is. I don't think there's any way a CNN reporter would say it. I don't think there's any way an MSNBC reporter would say it. So no matter what Trump lays out tonight, it's not going to impact the way that this is covered. And half the country is not going to hear what he says at all. And they're going to be told that he's just lying to them. My concern, and we just asked Tommy Lahren about this at the top of the next hour, is, is this going to help in the midterms or is it going to be people saying, hey, like that was six years ago. And I'm talking about people who are persuadable voters. What I care about now is cost of living. What I care about now is mortgage rates, which are way too high. What I care about is the rate on my credit card debt. That's what I think the average American wants to hear. And my concern is this is going to be discordant because it's going to sound like Trump again. We haven't read the speech and we haven't seen the speech or anything else, but it's going to sound like Trump is retrospectively focused on events instead of prospective, prospectively focused.
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Buck Sexton
My, my sense, Clay, is he may present tonight numbers and data to support his very clear view on the 2020 election. And he's doing so not just to relitigate the past, which will certainly be an, you know, an accusation that people, a criticism people will make about this, but also because of the Save America act and the desire that the President and many Other Republicans have to further secure and solidify elections going forward. Right.
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Buck Sexton
So there is a, I think, going to be an action piece of this, other than Trump wanting to address something that he feels very passionately and personally about, for obvious reasons. My sense is that it will tie into the Save America act as well, which unfortunately, then you get into, why isn't it being passed? It's not being passed because of the assumption of a Democrat filibuster. And unless people are willing to change that rule in the Senate, that's where it goes and dies. I don't think there's any willingness to change it in the Senate. So we get into this.
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Clay Travis
This is where it just gets frustrating. You and I are frustrated as much as many listeners are. The save act has 80% public support. Majorities of black, white, Asian, Hispanic people all say, this is very basic. Let's have elemental security when it comes to casting a ballot. And yet, and yet we cannot get this basic bill passed. We got a lot of people. Jack in Virginia wants to weigh in on this. Jack, what you got?
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Caller Jack
Yes, your call screener and I have talked about this. We don't want to relitigate it, but don't think that this can't happen again. The Democrats are very good at this. And if you know anything about American history, this isn't the first time they did this. So we need to get the facts out and just let the people decide themselves. To me, there was no doubt that election night. I stayed up till 2 or 3 in the morning and to see what happened. By the next morning, I'm like, huh, what? You know, where did all these votes come from? So I hear a lot of people in media say, oh, this is not a big deal, we need to move on. No, we don't need to move on. I mean, this is. This is what men fight and die in wars for.
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Clay Travis
I agree with everything you're saying. The question that I'm asking is this audience agrees with everything that you're saying. This audience is going to watch whatever Trump says tonight and say, yes, I agree. Is there an ability to actually tangibly change something? Right now we have control of the Senate, and the argument is, thank you for the call. We need at least 60 votes to get anything done. Well, Buck and I have said, and I think President Trump's 100% right about this. As soon as Democrats get back control of the United States Senate and the, and the House and the White House, which could happen as soon as 2028, they're going to immediately do away with the filibuster and they are going to implement radical left wing agendas and everybody on the Republican side who sat around and said we have to remain committed to principle and procedure and history is going to look like a patsy because Democrats are going to run roughshod over whenever they have the power to do so. That's my concern. So I just think in many ways Trump is going to be preaching to the choir that already believes everything he has said. I want to see the speech. I do think having the head of the FBI or the CIA deliver this speech as well. If there's tangible evidence of cheating and also prosecutions, this is where I get really frustrated and I know you do too, Buck. If we've got people cheating on everything related to Covid and if we've got everybody cheating on many different things relating to elections, who's paid the consequences for any of this?
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Buck Sexton
Well, that's all true. There's also a component of this clay of the continued beating that the Democrat media takes, formerly known as the legacy corporate media that they take over. I think there's going to be an obvious double standard at play. If he talks about China influencing the election, doing anything that's based in either mainland China or perhaps North Korea on behalf of China. Behalf of China, the Democrats in the media are all just going to say, oh, but you know, it didn't matter. It didn't do much. Right. Like the Russia $100,000 on Facebook in 2016 really shifted. So. So he'll expose them for the total frauds and phonies they are once again. And there is value to that as well, assuming that's part of the presentation tonight. But I still think that the midterms here and how this factors into that is probably the most important component. So. Well, we got to see. We're just previewing it right now. We'll see where it goes.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay and Buck. We got loaded lines. Let me run through bunch of these calls. We appreciate all of you. 830282 2882. Let's see who's been waiting the longest. Tanner in Texas, you wanted to weigh in on the situation in Iran. Fire away.
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Caller Tanner
Yeah, I heard a report a number, number of months ago and it's about the, about the Iran situation and I, my comment is nothing's going to happen on these negotiations until we take out the irgc. They've got all the guns so they're making all the rules right now and enforcing them. My understanding is that the Kurdish people are still, still have a little bit of a hard on for the Iranians because of some, some of their land being annexed here a number of years ago.
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Clay Travis
So Tanner, let me ask you, let me, let me ask you a question. Would you put boots on the ground? Would you send American troops into Iran?
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Caller Tanner
Not American. Okay. People would like to get a little bit of revenge for the land that was in.
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Clay Travis
Thank you for the call. Thank you for the call. Buck, you have been involved in this before. I think what the concern is that the Kurds would basically be walking into a massacre. They don't have this, the military support to be able to take on the existing Iranian government.
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Buck Sexton
No, look, the Kurds are like 10 to 15% of Iran, population wise and they're all consolidated really in the northwest along the Iraq or the western side of the country along the border with Iraq and somewhat contiguous with some of the pockets of Kurds in Iraq. You just don't have the numbers. I mean you can't. There's no, there's no way that they would be. He asked about the IRGC. You're talking about 500,000 at least under by the numbers, men under arms for the irgc. About the. I think the Iranians actually are one of the. There are only a few militaries in the Middle east and I could be wrong here. So Grok, fact check me guys. The Kurds have female frontline combatants out of necessity. The Israelis have like female fighter pilots and the Israelis have women in combat roles. I believe the Iranians have used women in combat roles too. I could be wrong on that, but I think that may have happened. Gaddafi had a female bodyguard, but that like her, his bodyguards were females. That's a very different situation.
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Clay Travis
They might had multiple roles.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, there was other stuff going on there, I think. So that then brings me to. Oh, we have more talkbacks and more fun things to Talk about here. H. Chris. Chris from Oceanside. Play it.
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Clay Travis
All right, clambox.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Caller Tanner
Play.
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Clay Travis
Yes, I'll tell you all about our friends at the ifc. They had a big election vote in the House over who supports Israel, who doesn't. Almost all of the Republicans still support Israel. Very few Democrats do. It was in fact split 50, 50 with the majority of the Democrat Party not believing that Israel should be supported. If you disagree with that decision, you can go register your disagreement by going online to flag penifcj.org that easy to receive a US and Israeli flag pen. It's free. You can go to the website. You can express your disapproval with the Democrat vote. Flag pen P I N I f c j.org One more time flag p I n I f c j.org welcome
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Buck Sexton
back in here to Clay and Buck. Okay, we got an update here for you in real time. U.S. forces are conducting a new wave of strikes against Iran as we talk to you. So they are degrading Iranian military capabilities. CENTCOM put this out. Yes, we are. We are bombing them again. The MoU is done. So memorandum, memorandum of understanding and we are continuing to watch this. I so very interesting. Just one note about this and I don't want to spend too much time on it because not much has really changed. We're back where we were and this is a lot of stop start. But Clay, when we talked about it looks like we don't have I said to you it looks like we don't have Iran quite where we thought we did with cutting off their oil well. And you said, well yeah, during the opening they just rushed it all out.
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Caller Tanner
Yep.
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Buck Sexton
So but this is both of these statements are true. We don't have Iran right where we want them with the oil because they use the 30 days of negotiations when Trump said okay, you can sell your oil again to just flood as much of their oil out as possible. Which now means that one now their storage capacity is back to a place where they have some time. They filled their coffers with some hard currency, all this. So now it's like we're we're starting not from square one because I know there's a lot of degraded military capability on the ground. There's. But in terms of using the oil as the choke point, this could be, this could be a little while.
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Clay Travis
Look, the question that President Trump is going to be confronted with, and we've talked about this a lot on the program over the past several months, if you really want to control the situation in Iran, you have to take Carg Island. You have to take Carg island and you have to then be in control of the means of production of oil and gas in Iran. If you do that, it would require putting American troops on that island and it would put them in peril and danger. That is, to me, the, that is the decision that President Trump is going to be faced with because I think we have established that we're not going to get significant regime change through all of these bombs. You were on this from the get go, buck, that in order to really force out the irgc, you're going to have to replace that government. And the only way you can replace that government is by putting troops on the ground. So to me, the kind of the middle ground here would be taking over the financial means of the funding of the government, which would require troops on the ground in Carg island and US taking over the oil and gas production capabilities of Iran, which is an accelerant.
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Buck Sexton
And at that point, when you have U.S. troops who are engaging in gun battles with whatever Iranian resistance is there, this is, it's a war. You can argue about the scale or you can debate the scale of the war, but it's certainly a war. Right now, Trump is saying it's more of a military action than a war. However, we want to really an air campaign or an air and missile, I guess aerial campaign includes the missiles, but there hasn't been a ground troop component really yet. I know we had to save a downed pilot, but we're not doing the landing large numbers of soldiers. That would be an obvious escalation from the perspective of us, US risk and also politically here at home, it's a lot harder to say, oh, but this is just something that we're doing to pressure the Iranians if we have any. Especially if we start losing any number of Americans, that changes the calculation for a lot of people. So, Clay, you're right about what we would need for the pressure. The Iranians. I don't think we'll be able to bring the Iranians to heel, so to speak, by cutting off their oil for, I mean, based on the numbers in the, it'll take a couple of months really here. So how long are we going to do the airstrikes?
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Clay Travis
It would put it into the American political midterm process. Right. So the question is, does President Trump try to jump ahead of that and decide to make a decision that would be an accelerant, but also in theory, would, in an ideal world, accelerate some form of resolution? I think the challenge is Buck, and I think you probably would sign off on this, too. This is never going to be a resolved situation unless you're willing to actually commit boots on the ground to try to wipe out the IRGC once and for all.
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Caller Tanner
Right.
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Clay Travis
To send them.
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Buck Sexton
This is why, you know, people will talk about, you know, whether or not they thought the Bush administration in Iraq was a, was a total disaster. Did they make some smart moves, some dumb moves, whatever it may be? Yeah, if they thought they could get the whole thing done from the air, they would have.
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Caller Jack
Right.
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Buck Sexton
And this was also true. We had a no fly zone over Iraq for many years, which was part of a, you know, part of the UN Resolution and a, a carrots and sticks approach to Saddam Hussein and all this. You can't get it all done from the sky. And that is something that I think the Trump administration knew and they were testing this out. There has been some miscalculation here. I think it's fair to say with the amount of Iranian dissent, resistance, uprising, you would see as a result. Like, I really do think the hope here was we will be the Iranian counter revolutions Air Force. If we're really just being honest about what I think the administration believed at the beginning, though, they'll say not now. They'll say that's not true. And maybe they're right, maybe they're not. But I do believe that that's what was thought early. And there's, there's actually a fair amount of reporting to support that. And then it was, okay, well, we did this thing. They're not rising up. What's the most that we can get out of this? We're going to have to accelerate the punishment from the air to force the concessions we want. I think that has been harder than we anticipated as well.
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Clay Travis
I think the other part of this, and it does deserve to be talked about, Israel was wrong when they told Trump that they believed they had a process by which regime change could occur. I also think this is the question, will Israel put boots on the ground if the United States said, hey, we'll give you air support, is there a willingness in Israel for Israeli soldiers to go into Iran and. And then what does that do in the Middle East? Because Buck, as you well know, having spent time in the Middle east, there is a different dynamic at play. I think when American troops are on the ground because we are seen as less of a religious war. Right. Than when Israeli troops are on the ground and it is seen as Jews versus Muslims.
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Buck Sexton
Now we're pretty much the same.
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Clay Travis
You're pretty much just as bad for US troops on the ground as it is for Jews.
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Buck Sexton
When they were trying to blow us up in Iraq, they were calling us crusaders and Jews. Crusaders and Jews. I'm just telling you it's bad. They're not like, oh, the Americans are here.
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Clay Travis
Well, I'm thinking that Americans would be a little bit better.
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Buck Sexton
No, not really. They think that we're just the army of Israel essentially, that we're the army arm of the Israeli government. Like we do Israel's bidding. So no, they do. They would not be.
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Clay Travis
So the question then becomes, I did circles right back around. I was trying to find a middle ground where Israel is acting and we're not right where they're putting boots on the ground and taking more risks than we are. Is there a will to do that in Israel? Would it play worse in the Middle East? If the answer is no, then basically we're just back to the question. And this is one of the legacies unfortunately of Iraq. It could be the case in Afghanistan, it could be the case that if we put boots on the ground in Iran it could actually work out. Okay.
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Caller Jack
Right.
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Clay Travis
That's a possibility. The idea, the idea that could be.
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Buck Sexton
But not into the risk factor. Right. The risk factor of blowing up a bunch of air installations and stuff in Iran is pretty low for us.
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Clay Travis
Yes, correct.
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Buck Sexton
The risk factor of once you start landing, look, once people are in harm's
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Clay Travis
way, it changes dynamic overnight. I do think that the failure of Iraq and Afghanistan has basically now for a generation plus it's created a world where everyone says, I don't want American troops on the ground anywhere in the Middle East. And the result is we can't solve anything. You know, and this is where you start to get into an intractable never ending. You use the phrase you constantly got to mow the grass. And this is where I think a lot of Americans just. We don't have a lot of patience. They think in hundred year terms in Iran and in many of these Middle Eastern countries. And we're thinking about months.
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Buck Sexton
This is also part of the problem with the approach. And I know didn't JJD went on the Joe Rogan show, right, and talked about a bunch of this stuff. And JD's frustrated with the criticism about this. Okay, but JD can come on and talk to us whenever he wants. It should be criticized. This is not working out as planned. All right. Like we should be able to have a conversation about where this is and what's true and what's not. This is obviously, I mean, as you know, Clay, I mean everyone knows who listens to the show. I've been saying the Iranians are just going to entangle us in negotiations and then they're going to lie and then they're going to cheat and steal. They're going to do everything they. This is just, this was pretty clearly going to be the case. And the background of all this as well is whatever agreement they do, whatever they would even theoretically sign on to, as soon as there's a Democrat administration, they know that there'll be no consequences.
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Caller Tanner
Correct.
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Buck Sexton
They don't have. They don't. They can sign anything they want. Ultimately all they have to do is wait until there's, heaven forbid, but a President Kamala or President Newsom and then all of a sudden they know it's totally game on. They do whatever they want. Here's J.D. by the way, on Iran cut 20 play it.
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J.D. Vance
What the President has done, I think very, very capably is said. We're going to use military force in this situation when it's connected to something we're trying to achieve. So if you shoot at ships, we're going to shoot at the facilities at which you used to shoot at the ships. But we're not just going to do something open ended indefinitely. We're not just going to bomb and bomb and bomb. We're going to try to use our military force as one of the many tools that we have to solve the problem. And obviously like I'm biased, but I think that's exactly the right approach.
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Caller Jack
No, that's.
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Buck Sexton
By the way, that's. He basically contradicts himself without recognizing in the statement we can shoot at whatever they've shot at the ships with for the next 20 years and they'll still have stuff to shoot at the ships. So this is actually open ended. I mean I would just disagree with JD on that portion of what he said.
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Clay Travis
I would also point out JD Vance in a really tough position because he doesn't agree, I think it's fair to say with the policies that have been implemented so far. It's public that he argued against going into Iran and didn't like a lot of these decisions. But as the vp, his job is to defend the choices that the President of the United States makes. He has to be an advocate for policies that he individually may not have embraced himself, which is a tough spot. I mean, this is, I think that's one reason to your point, Buck, that he's kind of on each side of the issue and, and isn't able to just say exactly. I think the truth of the matter is the President made a choice that J.D. vance disagrees with and he can't just come out and say I disagree with the President because his job is to execute the President's decisions.
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Buck Sexton
And I think he's been chosen for this role of spokesperson on this because a lot of the pro Trump Trump voting. Right. That didn't really support this Iran situation. You know, JD is more say, palatable to them than maybe some of the more, more interventionist members of the admin. He's a buffer. He's a buffer for this Trump administration because at least the people that feel like the Iran move wasn't the wise move or saying, well, JD's there, we know he didn't like this. He's trying to get this done. He's trying to get us out of this. So there is an optics component of this that, that I think is pretty clear.
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Clay Travis
Would you agree with this? I think Pete Hegseth, Marco Rubio would be on the more aggressive anti Iran response. Would that be a fair.
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Buck Sexton
I think Secretary Hegseth was like, we will destroy them down to the lizards, if you remember from Bora Y. Yeah.
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Clay Travis
So I think those guys are on one side, J.D. vance is on the other and President Trump is in between listening to both sides of the argument. And on any given day, I think President Trump is just frustrated at the degree to which Iran is lying to him in negotiation.
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Caroline Levitt
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
And that's coloring much of his response at this point is hey, we had a deal. You guys are just total liars. And he's just almost offended as a deal maker more than anything else.
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Buck Sexton
So I think what people have to understand about the Trump approach to this, especially for those of you who are MMA fans, Trump has them in a, in a, like an arm lock and is saying, ok, tap out. And they're like, no. And then he snaps the arm and then he goes, okay, I'm going to do this to your other arm. You're going to tap out, right? No, because they're crazy. And it's really not their arm that's being broken. It's the arm of the Iranian people and their economy. So that's the problem here, is that a normal leader would say, all right, Trump's got us boxed in. There's nothing else to do. The Iranians who are calling the shots are like, yeah, whatever, it's horrible for people. Our guys are getting blown up. Well, that's what we signed up for.
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Clay Travis
And again, Buck, the other part of this is, it's part of this just thinking in hundred year windows, right? I mean, being in an awful position for years for them is just, it's part of the, part of the game.
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Caller Tanner
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Caller Carly
You and buck both 100% wrong. And I'm not alone. I hate daylight savings time. I love it when it starts getting dark in the afternoon. You build a fire. You've got Something in the oven. Things are nice and cozy. That's what it's all about.
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Clay Travis
If we're going to Wait, wait.
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Caller Carly
Leave it to standard time.
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Buck Sexton
I need to know something. Do you get weird feelings when you're near garlic by any chance?
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J.D. Vance
Are you?
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Caller Carly
No, I do.
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Caller Tanner
A lot of garlic.
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Caller Carly
Are you kidding?
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Buck Sexton
I was gonna say, are you scared of a crucifix? Does holy water burn your hands?
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Clay Travis
Oh, I think you're right. I think Carly's a vampire. Big vampire is coming out in favor of it getting dark earlier. I think you. I think you've hit on something important.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you for the fang there hitting the side of the phone. I don't know. I said vampire.
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Clay Travis
Are there people disappearing in Colorado? Carly might be to blame because she's flying around sucking their blood. Big vampire wants time to get dark earlier. We, as people who embrace daylight, want there to be light upon the land.
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Buck Sexton
I believe the phrase let there be light applies here.
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Clay Travis
Let there kind of a popular phrase. Let there be light. Kind of an important moment in the
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Buck Sexton
history of this world kind of matters.
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Caller Carly
Yeah.
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Buck Sexton
For the universe. And you know, the everlasting saying.
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Clay Travis
I'm not going to lie. Blaming people who want to keep it dark earlier and saying that they're vampires. You might have hit on a real strategy. We're not going to let big vampire win. Embrace the light. Fight the darkness. We'll be back tomorrow.
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