Loading summary
Buck Sexton
Hello, it is Ryan. And I was on a flight the other day playing one of my favorite social spin slot games on jumbacasino.com I looked over the person sitting next to me and you know what they were doing? They were also playing Chumba Casino. Everybody's loving having fun with it. Chumba Casino is home to hundreds of casino style games that you can play for free anytime, anywhere. So sign up now@chumbacasino.com to claim your free welcome bonus. That's chumbacasino.com and live the Chumba Life sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary. VGW Group void where prohibited by law 21 plus terms and conditions apply. All right, third hour of clay and Buck kicks off. Now. I just realized as we were sitting here having a little chat about Rosie O'Donnell getting citizenship in Ireland, poor Ireland. What did they do? Deserve Rosie O'Donnell. But Trump has been giving remarks at the annual Friends of Ireland luncheon up on Capitol Hill. I didn't know. Look at that. Luck of the Irish. Look at that up on Capitol Hill. So we might have some sound bites from that for you here momentarily. But the president has been, has been speaking to everybody and doing, doing what he does. Friends of Ireland Luncheon. All right, we've got that. We've also got just to update us all with the in the world of politics here, the Senate Democrats having to figure out what they're going to do about this looming shutdown situation. Here's Speaker Mike Johnson. This is 14, who is just laying it out there. House the House Republicans have done their thing. The Senate's got to do their thing. And if they won't, it's on the Democrats. Play 14. This was a big night in Congress last night to get that done. We passed a clean, simple bill to keep the government funded for the rest of the year. And every Democrat except for one, in spite of all their previous sayings about how disastrous it would be to shut the government down, they all voted to do exactly that. So now the ball is sent over to the Senate and Chuck Schumer has a big decision to make. Is he going to cast a vote to keep the government open or is he going to be blamed for shutting it down? And that's clearly very simply what they have to decide. And I hope they do the right thing because government shutdowns, as they all said they're on video and have said a thousand times, is harmful for everybody. We don't need that. So you're going to see there'll be videos that Circulate, I'm sure of this. Democrats who in the past have said shutdown is horrible, it's reckless, look at all the, oh my gosh. Are going to be saying, well, we can't just, we can't just go along with this. This is a, this is gutting the government. We can't go along with this continuing resolution. It's a spending patch, essentially a stopgap measure. Which brings me to this is how far we are from really being able to tackle the spending problem. We've got most of the spending, I think something like 70%. Close to that. 65. 70% is on. Most of the spending is on autopilot. So there's that. And then the spending that we do try to cut, they tell us it's the most essential stuff ever. And we don't do an actual budget. And look at what are we spending on this, what are we spending on that. We just say, okay, we're going to throw more money into it. We don't do zero based budgeting. We assume all this spending and then we just pile more spending on top of it. Crazy stuff, right? It is true. Elon has made this point that if the federal government were a corporation, like truly a private sector corporation with the practices that it has, there would be, the, the company would go bankrupt and they would have the board of directors or, you know, the CEO would go to prison. Right. I mean, it would, it's a mess. It is a mess. So now we have this continuing resolution we got. I'll dig in tomorrow a bit more into what's in there because here's the thing. The stuff that the Democrats hate in it, they don't hate spending. So there are other things that are in this CR that they don't like. So we can dive into a bit of that. Because whatever it is that they hate is probably awesome. Right? That's the easy test on these things. Whatever it is that bothers them the most is a thing or the things that bother them the most. Those are what we want to make sure are in there. So you've got 52 Republicans who are going to pass the, the House version of this already. They need to get it to 60 with, with meaning eight Democrats are going to have to join in. The only one who has said he would is John Fetterman of Pennsylvania. There you go on this one. Oh, he's a moderate. Right. But we've seen recently on other things. Oh no, very much a Democrat. But remember, this is a spending bill, so it's, it shouldn't be some really hard thing for Democrats to say. Yeah, spend. They're obsessed with spending. They're obsessed with taking money in your name or rather printing money in your name, debasing the money in your bank account and that you are paid in your paycheck, but taking money in your name and putting it to whatever pet issue they have. So there's going to be some amendments, some wrangling over this, the seven month funding bill that the House has passed. So this is, this is part of the whole, of the whole process. I mean, if you're going to have the Trump agenda really humming, really hitting on all cylinders, you need Congress to get in on the act here and do the right thing. So I think that that's, that's interesting. Oh, the erudite stateswoman, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett has something to say about this. This is cut 15 that the new hero of the Democrat left play it. He can't blame me for not wanting to be his doormat or for the Democrats not wanting to be their doormat. I mean, all we consistently hear from them is they have this mandate that the American people gave them. Well, I am saying that I have a mandate from my district and it does not involve cutting Medicaid, cutting medic Medicare. No, I'm not going to vote for the continuing resolution. The Republicans control the House, the Senate and the White House. If they want to get their draconian stuff passed, it's going to hurt my constituents. They're going to do it by themselves. Mm. Here we are seeing that the Democrats are going to be, of course, if this was, if you go back to the Obama era, it's obstructionist. Right. This is what you're not doing. We're in the majority party. You're not doing what we say it's obstructionist. But no, they don't want the dismantling of the administrative state and they, they refuse to take any accountability for the disastrous spending trajectory that we're on. So we're going to get no help from Democrats on this. Really, the Democrats are, they are the party of spend us into oblivion because they're the party of emotions and feelings. And feelings right now. And feelings right now are, let's just keep spending what we're spending and then add some more to it and keep doing that forever until the whole thing collapses. It's the we are running in this country a version of the old joke, how do you go bankrupt slowly? Then suddenly. That is the Democrat strategy for this, which is the way to tackle the debt is don't, is keep adding to it, keep making it worse. And if you, if you keep making it worse, you'll be able to turn around to your constituents and say, oh, but I kept the money flowing to you in the meantime. And if the whole thing collapses, well, then, you know, who cares, right? That's their attitude. Just run this thing off the, run this car off the cliff and figure it out later. It's, it's astonishingly irresponsible. But that is the, that is where the Democrat Party is. On this notice they used to talk about, you can go, you play, you know, Obama, Pelosi. There are guys if you can help me find this, there's a Pelosi, Pelosi clips flying around from when she was speaker, I think under the Obama years. She's talking about how much, how we have to eliminate, we have to get the debt under control and we have to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse. It's Nancy Pelosi. So then, then Elon comes along and he's saying, hey, I've got an idea. Let's get this debt under control and let's find the waste, fraud, abuse and stop it. And Democrats are saying that everyone hates him and people are lighting Tesla's on fire because they're out of their minds. Not a lot of people, but you know, people that are disturbed, Biden voters or Kamala voters, but disturbed nonetheless. So, yeah, I think that Democrats aren't going to take this to a shutdown. I think that this is going to get, I think this is, the CR is going to get through, but we'll see. If not, then Trump gets to decide what is essential and what is not essential. And the government, they also always created this, they create panic. You know, Democrats, their party runs so much off of the manipulation of public emotion. So they create this sense of, oh, the government shut down and all these terrible things are going to happen. It's fine, it'll be fine. It's not the end of the world, not the least bit. And the same thing I think is true with the way they're talking about the tariffs, which I wanted to come back to here. Over at cnbc, there's a host, Steve Leesman, who I think he makes it pretty clear he is not a fan of Trump's tariff talk. This is 18 play it. I'm going to say this at risk of my job, Kelly, but what President Trump is doing is insane. It is absolutely insane. It is about the eighth reason we've had four for the tariffs. And now he's saying he's putting 50% tariffs on Canada unless they agree to become the 51st state. That is insane. There is just no other way of describing it. He's trolling the Canadians. He's not going to make it the 51st state. It's not going to happen. But he's also putting pressure on their leadership through a little bit of, of, shall we say, gentle mockery by, by showing that, look, you know, we got to get some changes here in some aspects of the economic relationship. And that requires pressure, that requires the willingness to do things that the Canadian government, the Canadian people aren't going to like very much. That is at the heart of negotiation. The, the version of negotiation that the D.C. swamp engages in is the people don't matter. We're going to spend all your money, we're going to spend your money into oblivion and we're not going to do any. The international community gets to dictate to us. We don't get to dictate to them whatever the international community means. And that's not America First. That's not what Trump stands for. That's not what he wants to do. Peter Navarro, who, remember, went to prison, went to prison because he refused to violate executive privilege when the Democrats were having their whole, oh, the insurrection freak out. Here he is explaining a little bit of a different perspective on the Canada situation. This is 17. Play it. Frankly, the premier, he's been, I mean, look, just tamp it down, please, over there, okay? The throwing down the hockey gloves. Stop that rhetoric and let's just look at what we're trying to do. We love Canada, but look, there's some big issues there and we're not going to tolerate anything but them stopping killing Americans and, and doing what's right with respect to things like steel and aluminum, which they've been dumping into our country. And that's stopping. He's just saying, look, we got some things we want to work out. We're going to figure it out, ok? No one's, there's going to be no invasion. Everything's fine. Everything is fine. There's no need to freak out. There's no need to take this into some level of hysteria unless you're a democrat like Claire McCaskill cut 16 here. She's saying that what Trump is doing with Canada is like what Putin has done to Ukraine. And think about the whole thing of saying he's going to make Canada the 51st state. What, is he going to go to war with Canada? Does he think the American people are going to Put up with us losing lives to try to take Canada, because Canada is not going to do it ever, ever, ever willingly. So the only way you do it is by force. Is he going to do to Canada what Putin has done to Ukraine? I mean, that's the logical consequence of what he's saying, and it's crazy. She really needs to do, like some yoga, maybe some. Some breathing exercises, prayer, meditation, something. Calm down, Claire. It's going to be fine. Trump's not going to invade Canada. Okay? We love Canada. Great country, great people. He's just doing a little negotiating, all right? He's trying to get some things accomplished here and just, you know, we don't need the hysteria. We don't need the hysteria. But, you know, the problem is they've trained themselves over many years now to just become hysterical about all things Trump related. So now they're at a point where even the tariffs discussion has got to get them hysterical. Now that the Trump derangement syndrome, as it's looking for the next place to manifest itself, it's. Look what he's doing on tariffs. Yeah. He's saying, he's saying Canada, you do some things that annoy us, that don't benefit our economy, that aren't really. There aren't really free trade. Get rid of those things, or we're gonna do some things that annoy you, that aren't really free trade, that are tariffs. And we need you to help us on some border issues. There you go. You know, he's not, he's not saying that the, you know, the whole country has to learn it, learn a different language, which, you know, obviously we speak English, they speak English, have to learn a different language and, you know, do something impossible, do something crazy, or else it's going to be fine. It's not going to be the 51st state. And look, Republicans, we don't want it to be the 51st state. Not because it's not a lovely place with lovely people, but way too many libs, Way too many. It would be like adding another. Well, I got to check and see what the registrations are. The population is similar to the state of California. I know that. I don't know what their breakdown is for liberal versus Conservative. I know they've had Trudeau, one of the most clownish world leaders of all, in the last decade or so that he's been their representative. So that's not a good. But we had Biden, you know, a lot of Americans here who are like, don't blame us. So I'm sure There are a lot of Canadians who are saying, hey, don't blame us for Trudeau. It was a bunch of libs who live in Ottawa and Montreal. It wasn't our fault. So we'll see. Let me ask you, are you a steak lover? I'm assuming you are. So let's take steak enjoyment to the next level with Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com right now. Check out their subscription boxes for meat, chicken and fish produced by American ranchers. 100% of what you'll find on that website is sourced in America, not imported over the border just in time for harvesting. That means the beef and chicken is without antibiotics, no added hormones and no seed oils. Just healthy, great tasting beef. Perfect for making great steak dinners like I do here at home. Kerry is a fantastic cook, my wife, but one she's very pregnant, so I try not to put a lot of, you know, strain on her these days with the kitchen or anything. And she lets me cook the meat. I'm very handy when it comes to cooking and I love cooking red meat perfectly because I love red meat and I love cooking with Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com when you use my name Buck, you'll save $25 as you place your order on the Good Ranchers website. That's goodranchers.com when you visit that website, you'll find a selection of Good Ranchers boxes to choose from. Use my name buck to save $25 off your purchase. That's goodranchers.com use buck for $25 off as your promo code. You know them as conservative radio hosts. Now just get to know them as guys on the Sunday Hang podcast with Clay and Buck. Find it in their podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. What does the future hold for business? Ask nine experts, you'll get 10 answers. A bull market, a bear market. Inflation's going up, coming down. Can someone a crystal ball? Until then, over 41,000 businesses have future proof their business with NetSuite by Oracle. The number one Cloud ERP. Bringing accounting, financial management, inventory, HR, all of it into one fluid platform with one unified business management suite. There's one source of truth giving you the visibility and control you need to make quick decisions. NetSuite gives you real time insights and forecasting. You're peering into your business's future with actionable data. Whether your company is earning millions or even hundreds of millions, NetSuite helps you respond to immediate challenges and seize your biggest opportunities. Download the CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at netsuite.com clayandbuck the guide is free to you at netsuite.com clayAndbuck that's n e t s u I t e dot com clayandbuck how to have fun anytime, anywhere step one go to chumbacasino.com chumbacasino.com or got it. Step two collect your welcome bonus. Come to papa. Welcome bonus. Step 3 Play hundreds of casino style games for free. That's a lot of games, all for free. Step 4 Unleash your excitement. Chumba Casino has been delivering thrills for over a decade, so claim your free welcome bonus now and live the chumba life. Visit chumbacasino.com no purchase necessary. VGW Group void where prohibited by law 21 + terms and conditions apply. Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Let's get to some of our our talk facts and our VIP emails. Remember, go to clayandbuck.com to sign up to become a VIP. The talkbacks are on the iHeart app, which all It's a free app. It's a great app. All of you should have it on your phone. Honestly. Like it should be on your front page of your phone. And the iHeart app. I use it. I use it myself all the time. Highly recommend you do. And you can send us talkbacks when you go to the Clay and Buck page. Press the microphone. This is Talkback aa A listener in Boston wanted to tell us. Fire away. I am currently on my daily walk.
Clay Travis
Now at lunchtime listening to Clay and Buck Monday through Friday. You guys will always be in my AirPods while I'm doing my walk.
Buck Sexton
Absolutely. I absolutely love to hear it. Honored that we keep you company during your walk and try to keep you informed as you're getting those steps in. It's a great way to do it. Honestly. Listen to this show, either the podcast or live while you're doing your walk. Because I've now reminded you right go for if you got time at lunchtime, if you got some time, you know, whenever, get out there and get the steps. And a lot of you writing in on this. By the way Eric writes, Buck, you're 100% right on walking. It sounded crazy to me too. But last year, after walking not leisurely, a mile a day and changing it up my diet a bit, I lost £25 in six months. Eric, just like me, man, the walking is absolutely critical and it's there's so many benefits to it for you physically, for you mentally, it's just a good thing to work into your daily, daily schedule. And you know, I used to be a runner. I used to even do not like elite or good, I'm not gonna pretend, but I used to run. I used to go and do, you know, four, five, six miles at a time on, on a regular basis in my, in my 20s, did some road races in New York. That's what they call them, you know, kind of like a track meet out on the roads of New York City. And the thing about running, which is great, a great exercise in a lot of ways depends on the length and the distance, but is that it often increases your hunger. And so you go, oh, I'm going to lose weight, so I'm going to start jogging or running. Well, yeah, but if you do that and then you have like an extra cheeseburger at night, guess what? You're not going to get where you want to go. Walking tends to be a caloric burn that doesn't result for most people in a big hunger increase because you've got to control the, got to control the calories. See, I'm, I got fired up about this stuff. Switch your cell phone service this month from AT&T Verizon or T Mobile to PureTalk. Start saving $50 or more a month without sacrificing any cell phone service quality. PureTalk will give you the same quality of cell phone service you currently have. That's because PureTalk uses the same cell phone towers and network as one of those companies to provide you with the best 5G nationwide service. Get a brand new iPhone 14 or Samsung Galaxy at no cost to you with a qualifying plan by dialing pound250 and say the keywords clay and buck. Pure Talk's US customer service team will help you make the switch in as little as 10 minutes. No hassle, no gimmicks, just honest to goodness wireless price. Right? I've had Pure Talk for years. Their customer service is fantastic and their pricing Simply cannot. Dial £250 from your phone. Now say the keywords Clay and Buck to claim your iPhone or Galaxy with qualifying purchase from PureTalk, America's wireless company. Visit PureTalk.com for details. All right, I mentioned that Trump was just speaking to the press and he was just in the Oval Office. So I wanted to bring you the latest here from the President. He is, as always, moving and setting news cycles with, with every utterance, pretty much. So let's dive into it on, on the tariffs situation, which we know we've talked about a fair amount today on the show. It is still in flux. It's all going to be fine. It is still in flux. And he is negotiating, but he spoke about that and he keeps on trying to get everyone to understand who is particularly critical of this. But critical, I think the people who are critical of it because they hate Trump and that's. They're going to, he could cure cancer and they would say, why cancer? You know, it doesn't matter. But there are the people who I think are a little, hey, hold on. Is this going to be good for the Trump economy? We want the best. I'm a little worried about this. Trump is telling them, you got to remember, this is about reciprocal tariffs first and foremost, meaning places that have it against us, they should remove that. And that's why we're, we're saying we'll put them on you if you don't take. You know, this is a do unto others as they do unto you tariff strategy play 22.
Clay Travis
As you know, we're going to be doing reciprocal tariffs. So whatever they charge us, we're charging them. Nobody can complain about that. Whatever it is. It doesn't even matter what it is. If they charge us, if they charge us 25 or 20% or 10% or 2% or 200%, then that's what we're charging them. And so I don't know why people get upset about that, because there's nothing more fair than that. And we, we had a problem with Ontario, and they dropped that. When I let them know what we were going to be doing, they dropped it immediately. So I'm glad, because electricity shouldn't be playing with electricity. It affects people's lives there, actually, their life. I mean, it can affect, depending on whether it can affect their life. So we can't do that.
Buck Sexton
Why is it bad to use the threat of tariffs? I mean, threat might be a little strong, but to use the implementation of tariffs, the possibility of tariffs as a negotiation tool to get another country to remove its preexisting tariff against us. I'd like to know what the really honest and straightforward response to that is. Instead, I get tariffs raise prices and they lower aggregate demand. And I hear all this, oh, okay. I know that, you know, there's a lot of, in economics, there's a lot of cost benefit analysis on a whole range of things. And this is something that we've had to deal with on the immigration side of things, too, where they say, oh, the more illegals, the bigger our GDP is. Yeah, but that doesn't, what we want is, is a country that that is actually a country that has sovereignty and that has households, individuals doing well. We don't just want, the more, the merrier, the bigger the economy, the bigger the overall gdp, the better. That's actually, it's GDP per capita that matters to us a lot more than just overall gdp because you have to look at the long term expense of individuals who are going to be government dependent. And that's already reflected in our immigration laws, but it's ignored anyway. So Trump is saying, yeah, look, we're going to tariff people that are tariffing us. And so the, that seems, I just feel like that's very straightforward. I don't know why this is. And he said he was going to do this. He's always talked about this. I don't know why this is a shock to anybody. Okay, now let's move to what he just said now a few moments ago about the price of. Talked about eggs in the first hour. Price of eggs and oil. This is 23, hit it.
Clay Travis
We did a lot of things that got the cost of eggs down very substantially and so many other things. A very big thing that I'm very happy with is oil is down to $65 a barrel and that's faster than I would have. We put on the gas, we stepped in the gas in order to get oil. And that's what's happening. So we're getting that down. And when energy comes down, prices are going to be coming down with it. So in a very short period of time, we've done a very good job.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, and it's a very short period of time. Nobody can really argue with that. And things are starting to move in the right direction on some key things. You know, stock market goes up, stock market goes down. That's what markets do. There's a lot of reasons for that. But I think that it should be clear to everybody that the team that's in charge, they understand this stuff, they know what's going on. And Trump's been here before. We have a record to judge this on. This is not. Oh, gosh, does this guy have any idea what he's doing? Do you remember what the economy was like 2018, 2019? It was like, oh my gosh, you know, low. The, you know, real unemployment numbers going down, so much wages going up. You know, the stock market's booming, industry merger, you know, it's all. And yeah, good stuff, right? It's all going to be, it's all going to be just fine. That's what I keep trying to remind everybody who's willing to listen about. And I think that the changes that they're making are necessary. Oh, wait, wait. Speaking of the changes, a little bit of a throwback here. Speaking of the changes, I mentioned a moment ago in the last segment that there was a time not long ago when Nancy Pelosi was opposed to waste, fraud and abuse. Nancy Pelosi is here in 2010 calling out how bad the waste, fraud and abuse in Medicare is. This is 25. Play it. We cannot keep our promises on Medicare, simply must make the cuts in waste.
Clay Travis
Fraud and abuse in Medicare so that.
Buck Sexton
The benefits and the premiums are untouched.
Clay Travis
We owe it to our seniors.
Buck Sexton
We owe it to our country. Okay, you hear that? That's the. Really the most powerful Democrat of the last 20 years. I know. I say that and you're like, ugh. And it grosses you. It's true. It's true. I mean, Obama while in office, in his time for eight years. But look at how long Pelosi's been in the game. And look at how Pelosi, I mean, she shepherded through Obamacare. She's ruthless. She's not good, but she knows what she's doing. She knows how to wield power. She. She ran circles around the Republicans on some things. Just, just calling it like it is. Right? Gotta be honest about it. But Here she is 15 years ago talking about how if we don't deal with the waste, fraud and abuse in Medicare, we won't be able to keep Medicare as it is. Now think about this. That was 15 years ago. The problem has only gotten worse since then. The problem of the waste, fraud and abuse and the debt and all of this together has only increased all of these pressure points. And yet Democrats hate Elon Musk and mock him and want to try to stop him in every. In every possible way they can. See what I mean? Whatever Trump is for, they are against. And whatever Trump is against, they are for, this is the way that they are operating. Because ultimately the future of the country matters less to them. That they are in charge and they have power. It's the truth. They want to be in charge. That is, that is point number one. Everything else comes after that. They have to have power. Power over you, power over me, power over the country. If that means they slam the country into a brick wall at a hundred miles an hour, well, at least they were at the driver. At least they were at the wheel. You know, they were in the driver's seat. And then they'll blame us, too. As you know, there's no Account, that's one thing Democrats are great at. No accountability. Look how they've ruined so many cities with crime and decay and disorder and drugs and. Oh, who could have ever known that undermining cops and refusing to enforce the law would have had these outcomes? I don't know everybody who's not an idiot. Pretty straightforward. But look what they did. Oh, yeah, blm. That's going to help us. So Pelosi used to be opposed to waste, fraud and abuse. And I just think it's fascinating that she has completely abandoned ship on this, because when there's finally somebody who's trying to do some real stuff about it, that's not. Remember, that's not even spending cuts per se. That's just money that shouldn't be spent stops getting spent. Democrats have a problem with that. No, you're not allowed. You're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to do the good thing because you, the Republicans, showing an ability to follow through on promises, to govern with sanity, to do math and to take your job in government seriously makes people trust you more, makes voters like you more. And that is unacceptable. That is the Democrat mentality in all of us. Everything else is noise. Can't give us. Can't give us a win. You want to know a perfect encapsulation of this mentality? It is the Biden administration not accepting Elon Musk's offer to use SpaceX to get the astronauts back home when they're, you know, when they want to be home. Instead, they get to linger up there for months and months and months. Why? And Elon's made this very clear. He's talked about this because Biden didn't want somebody associated with Trump to do an amazing thing. That is a service that everybody could just sit there and clap and say, great, Elon, Trump's buddy got our American astronauts home. Yeah, that's. This is what we are up against. It is so important that you remember that as we go through, the criticisms of what Trump is doing are going to continue to be irrational and not in good faith, because anything that Trump does that's good, they think must be bad, because good Trump is bad for them. It's as simple as. It's as straightforward as that for a vast majority of these issues. So, you know, there are times when I've even said, I hope this. I hope this Democrat pulls this off, or I hope this Democrat president makes the right decision for the future of the country and deserves the credit if he or she. Well, he does. And you know, there are those occasionally I brought up. I mean, the bin Laden raid, for example, which was a big part of Obama, which was really our Navy SEAL operators who did it, but in CIA who found him. But the point is, Obama got the credit for it. He was the commander in chief. He ordered the raid. There's no part of me that goes, oh, I wish he hadn't ordered the Osama bin Laden raid. No, it was the right move he pulled, he made. And he got four more years in office to do a lot more damage to the country because of it. But there are things that we should be able to recognize as good, irrespective of who's in charge, irrespective of who the pre, you know, which party the president belongs to. Democrats, they've abandoned that in the Trump era. Nothing, anything Trump does is bad. He even made reference to this explicitly in the joint address to Congress where he, I think he even said, if I cured cancer, they would be like, oh, my gosh, what will we do without cancer? And that's, that's their attitude on this. And then there's one more thing here on the this is Trump just now in the last, I don't know, last hour, he says about the Department of Education cuts. He's owning it. He wanted to do it. He said he's doing it half the. Not half. I think it's more like a. I got to check the numbers of the DOE workforce has been told, see you later. But Trump says, look, this is not about stopping kids from learning. This is about letting states run education within the state. Play 24.
Clay Travis
We have a dream. And, you know, the dream is we're going to move the Department of Education, we're going to move education into the states so that the states, instead of bureaucrats working in Washington, so that the states can run education. And you have Norway, you have Denmark, you have Sweden, you have various Finland, you have various countries that do very well. You also have China, that does very well in education, which is a pretty big tribute to China, I must say. 1.4 billion, and they're in the top 10. And it's pretty amazing. So we can't blame size anymore. You know, normally you'd blame size. It's too big. How can you do it? But China does it. So we think when you move it back to Iowa and Indiana and all the states that run so well, there's so many, I could name 30, maybe almost 40. Those will be as good as Denmark, those will be as good as Norway.
Buck Sexton
And let's see when states can really control their education and not have the meddling of the Department of Education federally, which has just made things worse. And when there's the adequate resources that are just given to the state that would have gone to the Department of Education, I assume that'll be part of this. We'll see. Let's see which states are able to figure out how to do this better. You know, the whole laboratory of democracy thing that the federalism that we have, that whole situation, why can't that work for education, it works for businesses, it works for a whole range of things where we get to see, you know, people are fleeing the blue communist states, moving to red communist states, and this is the way the system is supposed to operate. So there should be again a willingness to approach this in good faith. But that's never going to happen with the Democrats because the most important thing always and forever for these Democrats now is to oppose Trump cuz they hate him so much like a bunch of little babies. It's weeks like this one that make you think twice about how your savings in the bank are doing, right? I mean look, it's been tough with the markets with 401ks, so I want you to prepare for this uncertain time ahead with Gold. The company I trust is Birch Gold. That's who I rely on for my gold purchases and they helped me with my most recent one just a few weeks ago. Birch Gold specializes in helping you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA and physical gold for no money out of pocket. One 5 star review for Birch Gold includes the words knowledgeable, Helpful, no pressure. Get your free info kit on Gold by texting my name buck to the number 9898 98. There's no obligation, just useful information, a plus rating from the Better Business Bureau and countless five star reviews. Text buck to 9898 98. Let the experts at Birch Gold help you secure your future today with Gold. Making America great again isn't just one man, it's many. The Team 47 podcast Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. What does the future hold for business? Ask nine experts, you'll get 10 answers. A bull market, a bear market. Inflation's going up, coming down. Can someone please invent a crystal ball? Until then, over 41, 000 businesses have future proof their business with NetSuite by the number one Cloud ERP bringing accounting, financial management, inventory, HR, all of it into one fluid platform with one unified business management suite. There's one source of truth giving you the visibility and control you need to make quick decisions. NetSuite gives you real time insights and forecasting your peering into your business's future with actionable data. Whether your company is earning millions or even hundreds of millions, NetSuite helps you respond to immediate challenges and seize your biggest opportunities. Download the CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at netsuite.com clayandbuck the guide is free to you at netsuite.com clayAndbuck that's n e t s u-I t e.com clayandbuck I'll be with you tomorrow and Friday Clay will be out, as you know, on vacation back Monday. So looking forward to having him back here in the mix. Got some great talkbacks from all of you and some emails flowing in. Let's take a listener in New Jersey BB on the talk back. Play it. Hey Buck, I'm a male letter carrier postal worker in New Jersey and I average between 20 and 30,000 steps a day, bro. So it is really good. Good luck with the weight. God bless you and your wife with the baby. And there's going to be a lot of things that you're going to say to yourself. Well, they didn't tell me about this. Let me just say first up, thank you very much for sending us in your talk back and the well wishes on the baby. He's Carrie just got back from an ultrasound. The baby is. Oh wait, I want to get this right because she'll correct me if I don't. The baby is how many? 5lbs 14oz today. So it's like a little dude. There's a little dude in there, you know, and he's just doing his dude thing and he's swirling around. Easy for me to say, I'm not the one carrying him. I know, but he's in there and yeah, 5lbs 14oz. So he's looking good. Everything good. His head is kind of big, but of course he's my son so he's going to have a big head. And in terms of mail carriers, the team here reminds me, as you know, we inherited Rush Limbaugh's radio team who were with him for 20 years plus, give or take. And they reminded me that kind of like the way we have our truckers for a lot of them will be with us for three hours of the show on the day to day mail carriers. We love that we got mail carriers who will listen to for A three hour. If you're part of the three hour battalion. You know what I mean? We got our three hour battalion. We love our. If you can only pop in for, you know, half an hour or so on the show, that's great too. But our three hour battalion of mail carriers appreciate all of you and we're honored to keep walking around with you. Speaking of walking, a lot of you wrote in on this, by the way, so you. You know what I'm talking about. Kendra. Buck. I've been a walker. Always walked four miles every day during my pregnancy. After my son was born, I put him in a stroller, walked every day of his life until he outgrew the stroller. Walking with the baby is the best. These people that focus on the lack of sleep, ignore them. Yes, your sleep will be messed up, but the cuddles with your baby are worth it. Plus, before you know it, he will be a 17 year old with a full bag beard who's way bigger than you. So happy for you and Carrie. Kendra, thank you so much. And yeah, you know, walking that four miles a day, it is fantastic for you. Fantastic. So very cool. And I hope a lot of you, like I said, maybe a few of you. I'm gonna write in in six months and say, buck, I. Instead of just ignoring you because you talk a lot. I listened and I made walking part of my daily routine. You know, intentional walking. You know, 45 minutes or more of walking daily, and it changed my life. That's what I'm here for. Clay and I are here to save America and change your lives for the better. Ever wake up feeling lousy, knowing something is off with your body? You don't have time for guesswork. You need viome. Forget all the generic health fads. Viome doesn't tell you what you want to hear. It tells you what's actually going on inside your body. By analyzing your GUT microbiome, viome delivers a custom health plan that's as unique as your DNA. It's science, not nonsense. Want energy? Want better digestion? Viome has your back. Stop trusting amateurs. Go to viome.com for a personalized gut professional now. Call Starstar gut to get $110 off any test. That's StarStar488. To receive a link to the offer.
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: Hour 3 - Public vs. Private Sector
Release Date: March 12, 2025
Hosts: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Publisher: Premiere Networks
In the third hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into the pressing political issues of the day, focusing primarily on the looming government shutdown and the broader implications of public versus private sector management.
Clay and Buck begin by addressing the precarious situation surrounding a potential government shutdown. They highlight the recent developments in Congress where the House Republicans successfully passed a clean, simple bill to keep the government funded for the remainder of the year. Buck states:
“We passed a clean, simple bill to keep the government funded for the rest of the year. And every Democrat except for one... they all voted to do exactly that.”
[08:45] Buck Sexton
This leaves the onus on Senate Democrats, led by Chuck Schumer, to decide whether to support the bill or risk a shutdown. Clay emphasizes the detrimental effects of a shutdown, noting:
“Government shutdowns... are harmful for everybody. We don't need that.”
[10:12] Clay Travis
The hosts critically examine the Democratic Party's approach to government spending, pointing out that a significant portion (approximately 65-70%) of federal spending is on autopilot. Buck articulates:
“Most of the spending is on autopilot. And then the spending that we do try to cut, they tell us it's the most essential stuff ever.”
[12:30] Buck Sexton
They argue that Democrats are more interested in maintaining spending levels rather than implementing zero-based budgeting to genuinely address fiscal issues. Elon Musk's observation is referenced to underscore the inefficiency of government spending:
“If the federal government were a corporation... the company would go bankrupt and the board of directors or the CEO would go to prison. Right. I mean, it would be a mess.”
[14:05] Buck Sexton
Clay discusses the intricacies of the Continuing Resolution, noting that while Republicans are eager to pass it, Democrats have specific objections unrelated to the spending itself. He mentions:
“The stuff that the Democrats hate in it, they don't hate spending. There are other things that are in this CR that they don't like.”
[16:50] Clay Travis
This indicates that the opposition from Democrats may be more about the provisions within the CR rather than its primary purpose of averting a shutdown.
A significant portion of the discussion centers on President Trump's tariff policies, particularly his stance on imposing reciprocal tariffs on Canada. Buck questions the negative portrayal of Trump's tactics:
“Why is it bad to use the threat of tariffs?... Instead, I get tariffs raise prices and they lower aggregate demand.”
[20:30] Buck Sexton
Clay defends the strategy by explaining its fairness:
“Whatever they charge us, we're charging them. Nobody can complain about that. Whatever it is.”
[22:08] Clay Travis
They critique the media’s and Democrats’ hysterical responses to Trump’s policies, suggesting that opposition is driven more by ideological differences than factual disagreements.
The hosts shift focus to President Trump's plans to overhaul the Department of Education, advocating for returning control to individual states. Clay elaborates:
“We're going to move education into the states so that the states, instead of bureaucrats working in Washington, can run education.”
[32:46] Clay Travis
Buck adds that this move leverages the "laboratory of democracy" concept, allowing states to innovate and manage education systems more effectively without federal interference.
Clay brings up a historical point, juxtaposing Nancy Pelosi's past concerns about waste and fraud in Medicare with current Democratic practices:
“Here she is 15 years ago talking about how if we don't deal with the waste, fraud and abuse in Medicare, we won't be able to keep Medicare as it is.”
[25:02] Clay Travis
They argue that despite Pelosi’s earlier stance, the problem has only worsened, and Democrats have failed to implement effective solutions, leading to increased fiscal irresponsibility.
The discussion highlights how Democrats and mainstream media consistently portray any positive initiative by Trump as detrimental. Buck points out:
“Anything that Trump does that's good, they think must be bad, because good Trump is bad for them.”
[29:15] Buck Sexton
This relentless opposition, according to the hosts, undermines constructive policy-making and fosters unnecessary division.
Wrapping up, Clay and Buck emphasize the importance of accountability and effective governance. They assert that Republicans demonstrate a commitment to fiscal responsibility and practical solutions, contrasting sharply with Democratic tendencies towards unrestrained spending and power retention.
Clay concludes:
“Showing an ability to follow through on promises, to govern with sanity, to do math and to take your job in government seriously makes people trust you more, makes voters like you more.”
[33:36] Clay Travis
Buck echoes this sentiment, advocating for continued vigilance and support for policies that prioritize the nation's long-term stability over partisan gains.
Buck Sexton [08:45]:
“We passed a clean, simple bill to keep the government funded for the rest of the year. And every Democrat except for one... they all voted to do exactly that.”
Clay Travis [10:12]:
“Government shutdowns... are harmful for everybody. We don't need that.”
Buck Sexton [12:30]:
“Most of the spending is on autopilot. And then the spending that we do try to cut, they tell us it's the most essential stuff ever.”
Buck Sexton [14:05]:
“If the federal government were a corporation... the company would go bankrupt and the board of directors or the CEO would go to prison. Right. I mean, it would be a mess.”
Clay Travis [16:50]:
“The stuff that the Democrats hate in it, they don't hate spending. There are other things that are in this CR that they don't like.”
Buck Sexton [20:30]:
“Why is it bad to use the threat of tariffs?... Instead, I get tariffs raise prices and they lower aggregate demand.”
Clay Travis [22:08]:
“Whatever they charge us, we're charging them. Nobody can complain about that. Whatever it is.”
Clay Travis [32:46]:
“We're going to move education into the states so that the states, instead of bureaucrats working in Washington, can run education.”
Clay Travis [25:02]:
“Here she is 15 years ago talking about how if we don't deal with the waste, fraud and abuse in Medicare, we won't be able to keep Medicare as it is.”
Buck Sexton [29:15]:
“Anything that Trump does that's good, they think must be bad, because good Trump is bad for them.”
Clay Travis [33:36]:
“Showing an ability to follow through on promises, to govern with sanity, to do math and to take your job in government seriously makes people trust you more, makes voters like you more.”
In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton offer a staunch critique of Democratic fiscal policies and media narratives, championing Republican efforts to maintain government operations without succumbing to excessive spending. They advocate for practical reforms, such as decentralizing education, and defend President Trump's strategic use of tariffs as fair and reciprocal. The hosts encourage listeners to stay informed and engaged, emphasizing the importance of responsible governance for America's future.