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Massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra Affair. The things that happen were so bizarre and insane I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Third hour of clay and Buck kicks off right now and we got a new Pope, everybody. That's the big news of the day. No question about it. The Catholic Church has a new head, Leo the 14th. And now everyone's diving into, who is this guy? What do we know about him? And finding a lot of interesting information like the following. So he was supposed to be a, or supposedly a close colleague of Pope Francis's. He is from Chicago. He served most of his career in Peru. He spoke in Italian and in Spanish. Now the Spanish, obviously he had lived in South America for most of the time. He, he was a priest, apparently didn't say anything in English, which is a little strange. I think some people might have thought, well, that is your, your mother tongue. And there are, let me see, what else am I picking up here, Clay? We're looking at Leo 14 stuff. He's, he was called the social Pope. Leo was rather the previous Leo. Pardon me, the previous Leo was the social Pope. He wrote the Rear of Novarum, which is an encyclical that called for a living wage. So people are starting to see some things that are looking like he could be a social justice heavy pope. And that's what we, that's what we seem to have on our hands right now. I saw the Sean, you've probably seen it too, the Sean Davis tweet that's getting a lot of attention. Should we tell everybody about this one? Yeah.
Buck Sexton
I mean, look, you want to hit it with it. There's a bunch of stuff out there from his Twitter account. This is one of the first popes probably ever that's had a Twitter account. He's had an account since 2011. And a lot of it is reposts. A lot of it is not direct quotes. But here's a direct comment. And I think I mentioned this in the last hour, but directly he said, JD Vance is wrong. Jesus doesn't ask for us to rank our love for others. That was a comment that he made in February of 2025 and then linked an article. And then he also, back in 2015, shared something from Cardinal Dolan at the Washington Post. Now, Cardinal Dolan has had a good relationship, if I remember Buck, with Trump. He is New York's cardinal, right. If I'm not mistaken, New York City area cardinal. Why Donald Trump's anti immigrant rhetoric is so problematic. That was something that Cardinal Dolan wrote on July 31 of 2015. He shared both of those. And then there are multiple other posts that he has retweeted. One of them says, I join my voice and prayers to those of my brother bishops that we might work hard to end racism in our hearts and in society. May God give comfort to the family of Hashtag George Floyd in this time of anguish. Yes. He also said saying Trump's bad hombres line fuels racism and nativism. California bishops and preemptive blast on DACA repeal. You're not going to like this one, Buck. Reposted this from Sister Helen Prejean. Prejean. She's the Louisiana, if I remember correctly, right activist. I stand with the dreamers and all people who are working toward an immigration system that is fair, just and moral. Defend daca, daca. And this is recent. As Trump and Bukele use oval feds illicit deportation of a U.S. resident D.C. cardinal asked, do you not see the suffering? Is your conscience not disturbed? How can you stay quiet? And then also he reposted Chris Murphy, Senator from Connecticut. To my colleagues, your cowardice to act cannot be whitewashed by thoughts and prayers. None of this ends until we do something to stop it. I think that was potential gun violence. Probably yes. In Connecticut in the, the shooting that happened at the elementary school.
Clay Travis
Sandy. That was a Sandy Hook.
Buck Sexton
I think that's a Sandy Hook tweet.
Clay Travis
Although Sandy Hope does not know anything about guns. But that's a whole other conversation.
Buck Sexton
Okay, so those are all things that are being shared that he has shared on his social media account. On the flip side. Yeah, on the flip side, Buck Catholics. On the flip side, he has voted typically in Republican primaries throughout his voting history. But those social media account comments, again, some of them are retweets but suggestive that he may be actually, that he may be actually in some way a social justice warrior as priests and now popes go. So that is the background positive story is that for the first time in the history of the Catholic Church, there is an American born Pope from Chicago, went to Villanova, majored in math there and has lived all over the country. But his most recent tweet was criticism of Trump and Bukele. So my thought is on some level.
Clay Travis
All right, Southern Baptist, man, go for it. I'm fired up over here. Go for it.
Buck Sexton
No, my, my thought on some level is that this could be seen by the cardinals as some form of rebuke of Trump and they picked an American Catholic as a result. Now what's your analysis all this?
Clay Travis
I don't, I don't think, I don't think that this is that there as focused in on that. You know, we do a political first show here. I don't think that they're picking the Pope based upon who's going to be president or who is president in one country of the, of the hundreds of countries around the world for the next few years. So I. Look, this is, this is a problem for a lot of us who are on the right and who are Catholics. And I do not hold myself out as somebody who is particularly active or knowledgeable about the church these days, although I did grow up very much enmeshed in. I mean, we used to have. Clay, we used to have church before our first soccer game or our first basketball game of the season. I don't mean on a Sunday. I mean like it was Monday morning, like first day of the season. Time to go to church. And we used to go to church all the time when I was in school and we had chapel every morning for 10 years at my Catholic school growing up. So, yeah, I've spent a lot of time in these places. And hearing this, the challenge you have is, I mean, the George Floyd thing is pretty remarkable. I just could say, you know, there's just a poll that came out yesterday that most people realize that the whole BLM thing just made everything work. What I've been saying for years, what you've been saying for years made everything worse and did not make anything better. Nothing. Correct. No improvement from any of that. All of that. But this is about a racial reckoning and racial justice. No, actually it's not. It was race riots and it was horrible and hurt the country. So anyway, the results now are in on that. I mean, the polling results at least the challenges you have here are one. Let's just take this issue of the rebukes of. And can I. You've got a lot of very active Catholics. Like some you could call in and do the whole call in Latin. OK, light us up here. 800-282-2882. Some of you will have much more passionate feelings about this specific choice and are going to want to weigh in. Clay already said if you happen to know this Pope from when he was in Chicago, that would be very interesting. Maybe one of you had him as a roommate at Villanova. Hey, who knows?
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I mean, what do this party, do.
Clay Travis
Some keg stands, you never know. But I am, I am curious to hear from all of you about this. So we really are going to line up, rack and stack a bunch of calls on how you feel about this. But Clay, you know, for example, to call out J.D. vance or to call out Bukele, really, that's, that's where the worst human rights stuff is going on. This is just left wing indoctrination. I mean, I know that now he's, you know, he's, he's going to be consecrated as the Pope. And it's a big deal. But he was just a priest before this and he was a priest that clearly held some very left wing views. You know, not talking about, about the, the assault on Christians in the Muslim world or the suppression of Christianity and just general authoritarianism in China. And not talking about, you know, there are so many areas, so many things you could go into here or so many leaders you could call out. What about all these European leaders who are effectively for euthanasia, abortion? All well, depends on which European country. Abortion, usually about 6 to 6 of the months of a pregnancy. It depends on where you are. You know, all of the gender ideology stuff, the destruction of the family, the destruction of marital relationships or rampant pornography. And I mean, just all that stuff that is supported by a lot of leaders in the Western world. And you're calling out Bukele. What about saying, thanks, Bukele, for taking the murder rate from one of the worst in the world to one of the lowest in the world and saving thousands and thousands of lives and hundreds of thousands of people's lives in the sense that they didn't just lose a family member or lose the guy that was employing them in the business or whatever, because they weren't murdered by some cartel maniacs. This is what you have a tough time. I had a very tough time with the last Pope and I just chose not to speak to my very, I have some very devout Catholic family members and I cannot talk to them. I couldn't talk to them about the last Pope really, because I had nothing good to say about a lot of the statements, climate change stuff. It's a little bit like when a Pope talks about guns. There's just a lot of, a lot of ignorance and a bit of hubris. Just saying, you know, if you don't know, you don't know. I don't care what your role is. So like I said, I will put this out there, but I hope that this Pope is fantastic on a whole range of other issues and maybe there's an opening here for some great things to happen. I am hopeful, as one should be, that this Pope will be great.
Buck Sexton
I would point out that when he shared two different posts about Trump and also about J.D. vance, there was well, knowledge that Pope Francis was not well. And if you were playing the politics game and you were an American, I bet it does not hurt to not be pro Trump if you are trying to ascend to become Pope.
Clay Travis
Look though, this is like, this is a. So, you know, I had a grandparent who was very Catholic as In went to church not just every Sunday, but like random times during the week for her whole life and. But was also really into what. What I would call the left wing. There's real. There's really Catholic Mark. There's a Catholic Marxist wing of the Church. There's a. She even subscribed to something called the Catholic Worker, which is effectively Catholic Communists, which I, you know, communism is always radically. In. In practice, radically anti Catholic, anti God, and horrifically destructive and I would even argue demonic. But unfortunately, you know, the devil. The devil is the father of lies and often presents himself, so to speak, as something quite appealing. And I think for a lot of Catholics, the. Well, we are all supposed to just give all we have and go follow Jesus. And that means we should have open borders and nobody should be wealthy. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, the Vatican's got a lot of fancy artwork like this stuff starts to get really tough for people in the real world application. Again, there's a difference between the doctrine of the Church and what the Pope says as his opinion on things. And yeah, I, on the doctrine stuff, aligned. On the Pope's opinion stuff. I often find myself not aligned. And I wonder how many of you have the same. Have the same feelings, but on the good side of things, he's American, so we got that going for us.
Buck Sexton
He's voted in a lot of Republican.
Clay Travis
Primaries and he's voted Republican. Well, I give him credit for this. And that's actually a very important reminder. I don't understand how you can be a practicing and believing. A practicing, believing Catholic can vote for the Democrat party. And one of my problems would be that this Pope, for example, calls out J.D. vance. I mean, based on the Church's own doctrine. I mean, Joe Biden, people that advocate for abortion for all nine months of a pregnancy and their public role should be excommunicated from the Church. But they don't do that. Or even just. How about called out. They won't do that. And that, I think, is a huge problem. A huge problem for a lot of us who say, okay, so you'll call out J.D. vance or something on some. I don't even know what it was on like being open borders, which is really also. I mean, I don't. I think that some priests don't really understand this. Just be honest with you. I studied with a lot of Jesuits who are very smart on some things and truly ignorant on others. And, you know, they're not people that have had to pay a lot of bills. Just put it that way, they effectively live in communes. I mean, they are, in essence, the Society of Jesus is the closest thing to a functioning, an actual functioning communist system, at least the theoretical practice of it that you'll find anywhere. And that's a joke that a Jesuit actually told me. So they don't understand things like if you have an open border in this country, all of the public welfare and, you know, programs to help the poor in this country effectively go under. Because you are saying that all of these people have a claim to the programs that we have that are meant to help people. And by the way, if you don't pay into those programs in the form of taxes, you go to prison because men with guns come and arrest you in the name of the state. It's not as simple as, just like, we got a lot of food, we're going to feed everybody.
Buck Sexton
I'd also point out he's from Peru now. And so I look at it politically, a lot of these guys are not going to be trying to draw attention to themselves. They're going to try to stay in whatever is considered to be the mainstream. That's fine. And then ultimately the buck stops with you, no pun intended, when you become the guy at the head of the Catholic Church. So sometimes you don't have any idea how a politician is going to lead until they actually end up in a position of power because they've been trying to kind of hide in the current, for lack of a better way to describe it. I would think if you're trying to become the first American Pope, there are probably people lied against you because of America's power in the world. And so I see it as kind of a attempt to camouflage yourself within the flow of whatever direction the river is going in some way. Looking at some of these breadcrumbs, for lack of another way to describe it, on the social media accounts. But I'm curious, any of you know him? We'll take your calls. Switch your cell phone service to Pure Talk. Get a brand new Samsung Galaxy on them with a great qualifying plan. While you're at it, stop overpaying Verizon AT&T or T mobile qualifying plans started just 35 bucks a month, unlimited talk text, 15 gigs of data and a mobile hotspot, all in America's most dependable 5G network coverage. Just as good as one of those other companies because PureTalk utilizes towers and networks. One of those companies would use as well, you can switch to Pure talk for just 35 bucks a month. Cut your cell phone bill in half, get a brand new Samsung Galaxy for free. Dial pound 250 say the keywords Clay and Buck Pure Talk's US customer service team can help you switch in as little as 10 minutes. Again, £250 say the keywords clay and Buck to make the switch to pure talk today. That's £2 50 news and politics, but.
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Buck Sexton
We'll definitely dive into that tomorrow as that news would otherwise be very significant on today. But we got elected a American Pope, which is truly a historic occasion. I told you this off air when I was in Vatican City a couple of years ago touring everything. I asked what are the chances there ever being an American Pope? And my tour guides, Italians, just kind of laughed like, ah, they'll never be an American Pope because your country is seen as too powerful and they don't want America to also have a pope. Well, they were wrong and that's kind of amazing.
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Sexton SHOW not that it's a proxy for anything that is definitely moving around, but my 17 year old texted me American Pope, exclamation point. And I think that is probably going to be the biggest takeaway from most people around the United States is that we now have for the first time ever an American Pope, Pope Leo the 14th, Robert Prevost, an American born Pope from Chicago, 69 years old, got a math degree at Villanova, has lived in Peru for some time and he will be the new Pope coming on May 8, which is the 80th anniversary of Victory in Europe Day, a day that America had quite a lot to say with that victory. Also, Trump announcing new tariff agreement with England and the stock market doing quite well. A lot of you want to weigh in on the new pope. Let's just go right in the order that I have them lined up right here. Brian in Summerfield, North Carolina, what you got for us, Brian?
Clay Travis
Hey guys, to be honest with you, as an American Catholic, I really don't care that we have an American Pope. What I really care about is what are his teachings going to be. And I'm not all that happy about who they picked. As I was telling the screen, there's 133 guys that go into that room and they are supposed to be listening to the Holy Spirit. But I will remind everybody they are men. They may have heard the Holy Spirit. God gave us free will. We could listen to it and actually put that on the paper or we can deny it and do something else. And I am just kind of afraid that we have a Vatican much like we did in World War II. We have a Vatican much like the Jews had when Jesus was around with the Pharisees. You know, we have people in charge now at the Vatican who are more worried about what is happening in this world than how to get to the next world. So yeah, to be honest with you, I'm not all that joyful about who this new Pope is.
Buck Sexton
Thank you for the call. Buck, as the Catholic on the show, any of those things ring true for you or how would you assess your overall thoughts here? I don't think any of us expected this guy kind of came out of nowhere to be selected.
Clay Travis
Yeah, I don't know how much it matters that he's American other than I assume his English is good. So that's helpful. But beyond that, and I mean look, it's a cool first for America, I should say. I just don't know how much that will affect his, his tenure and what he does as the, the leader of the Catholic flock, we'll have to see. I don't know, we just found out who the guy is. I didn't ever even heard of him until a minute ago. So I'm learning on the fly like so many others here.
Buck Sexton
Walker in Jersey City, what you got for us? Walker?
Clay Travis
You know, I just think this is, I think not to sound jaded but I think this is a good business decision on the Catholic Church's part. I think the United States is the richest, most powerful country in the world and the Catholic population has been declining here. I think this will help grow the church in the United States. I think I live in Hudson County, New Jersey and I've seen school after school close down Catholic school after Catholic school closed down in the last 10 years. I think the Catholic Church needs a boost in the United States and I also think that this new Pope will work to fight to things that have been going on with Ortega in Nicaragua and you know the political part of it, you're just always going to have. Popes are always going to be pretty pretty. I think they're pretty, going to be pretty, pretty liberal to begin with.
Buck Sexton
Thanks for the call. Obviously a wide variety of perspectives. There is evidence that he is a Republican who voted in Illinois. There are social media posts that suggest that he may not be a big Trump. JD Vance guy Anthony in Boston, fire away.
Clay Travis
Yeah, so listen, the thing about this disguise, I'm a former Catholic but I've heard about past couple of days I think they wanted an outsider, especially from America because the Vatican is in big trouble cash wise financially. There's allegations of money laundering and I think they wanted someone from the outside to come in. And they're so desperate that, you know, Francis, in his dying days, he actually put out an edict begging to get more money out of the congregations. And the two largest donors by country in the world are the United States and Germany. And they definitely don't want to. Didn't want a German folk. See what happened last time. It was too strict. Also, this American, this American who's now the Holy Father, he's going to have to decide what he's going to side with Trump. Just days ago, the Trump administration, Hamid Dylan, she filed. They're investigating the state of Washington and deciding with the Archdiocese of Seattle because Washington state is infringing upon their religious rights. They want to make them have their confessions, be able to be told as a mandated report. And the Catholic Church is pushing back against it. So Trump is siding with the Catholic Church. This is going to be big for Catholics in America because there's two Catholics. There's the heathen ones that I see. I was a Catholic. Then there's the immigrant ones. And this guy definitely was pro migrants, these pro underserved communities. And he could, the media could use this man to take advantage of, like, you know, this is what the Catholic Church does. And I just hope not. I really just hope, like the other Carl said, he saves souls because that's the main mission of the church. But it appears it's a business decision. That's only my opinion. But like I said, just recently, this Trump administration put investigation against the Archdiocese of Seattle. So we'll see what happens.
Buck Sexton
Thank you for the call. Here's what I would say. Buck. I do think caller is right that when the Pope makes decisions that are seen as being in conflict with Trump or J.D. vance, the United States leadership, it will be covered as a more significant factor than it would have been covered if the Pope were not from America. Does that make sense to you? I mean, it will be seen, even though he's lived in Peru for a long time and, and he obviously represents the entire world of Catholics, it will be seen as a more direct rebuttal of Trump and to be fair, a more direct validation of Trump if he signs on in agreement, just in the way that the American media, I think, in particular, will cover this.
Clay Travis
Let's go to Jacqueline in Brooklyn. What's going on, Jacqueline? Hello, gentlemen. I happen to agree with a lot of what you, every single one of your previous callers have said. I am myself a part practicing Catholic. And I have to say right off the bat, I'm a little disappointed in this particular choice, based on what this Pope has said himself, he opens up by talking about saving the refugees of the world, letting them in. He did not speak out openly and first and foremost about abortion, which is supposed to be one of the most central doctrines of the Catholic Church, especially with the former president that we had in the last administration and the former speaker of the House that we had at the last administration. That I think goes along in line with what some of your previous callers have said. He should be focused on how to get to the next world instead of the physical world that we're living in. But we need to remember the Pope is a religious politician the same way generals are military politicians. And one of the things that I agree with is that this was a political decision that the Church made. I would like to see him speak more about church doctrine and not so much about political agendas. And I think that's where he's heading, very much the way Francis was. You know, this is something, Jacqueline, that as I'm listening to you speak, this is Buck. And when I have gone to church in recent years, it's always hard for me because I can tell you, many times I have sat there and from the pulpit, I have been lectured about BLM or I have been lectured about climate change, or I have been. I'm being in a Catholic church. I don't think I've heard a priest talk about abortion in the last five years. One time. One time from the pulpit. Right? So this is. This starts to get to, what are we really pushing here, guys? You know, what are we really doing? And I hope that whoever this new pope is, he sticks to what the church is right on and what it should be focused on and doesn't start to sound like an MSNBC contributor for no reason, because I've seen. I've seen a lot of that among Catholic. Catholic priests. So that's unfortunate, but that is true.
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A lot of people. Loaded lines, you might imagine. Matthew in Ramona, California. What do you think?
Clay Travis
Hey, man, how y' all doing? Great show. Hey, listen, I'm confident. And, you know, I'm from a small town. There's only a handful of Catholic. And the great thing is it brings in everybody. And, you know, the one thing is they didn't have picture of the last pope on their wall. And that's. Well, yeah, we have very conservative parish, small town, you know, but I think let's. Let's be confident, let's be happy, let's, you know, do everything and like the great Rush Limbaugh once said when Clarence Thomas was, you know, nominated the Supreme Court, he goes confident, and gosh darn.
Buck Sexton
It, he sure was.
Clay Travis
And y' all do a great job, man.
Buck Sexton
Thank you very much, Joe in Cape Coral, Florida. Joe, fire away.
Clay Travis
Yes, I'm a practicing Catholic. I've been since 1946. You want to put it that way. I was never favorite of Pope Francis, never liked him. I thought he was woke being an American Pope. That's good, as long as he keeps the doctrine of the churches. That one woman said, I don't care about his opinion, and we don't have to listen to his opinions. He just must go by the Catholic Church. Biden should have been excommunicated from the Catholic Church. All of them are scared. I live in a city that had LBG day in the city, and I asked the priest why the Catholics here aren't standing up against this stuff. You know, they say one thing and do the opposite. So I'll give this Pope a chance, but I don't care what his opinion is. I like about him, he's a Republican. Well, and an American, which is also pretty cool. But, yes, agree with you, sir. On. On the. You don't have. That's. That's why I was saying before. Ex. Catherine, speaking from the throne of St. Peter, that's one thing, right. When you're actually talking about church doctrine. And any kind of change in that doctrine will be a major thing. But the Church, I mean, the Pope just saying, this is what I think about this or that. You can take. You can take that or leave it. That's not the same thing as speaking with the full force of the Church and its doctrine behind him. VIP email from Sheila. All these opinions on the Pope. Ugh. Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against his Church. Let's just remember there have been good and bad Popes, and the Church is still going and will believe Jesus. He's in charge. Thank you for your show. Thank you, Sheila. Yeah, it's an important point. I mean, you know, we can sit here and talk about the history of popes, and it has been a colorful thing, to be sure. Especially you go back far enough in time, it gets really interesting. But the Church still endures and is a source of so much goodness and godliness for. I think it's about a billion, billion, four billion, five Catholics around the world. So there's a lot of.
Buck Sexton
Speaking of those Catholics around the world, you are one. JD Vance just weighed in. Congrats to Leo the 14th, the first, first American Pope on his election. I'm sure millions of American Catholics and other Christians will pray for his successful work leading the church. May God bless him. That in the Last minute from J.D. vance.
Clay Travis
Excellent stuff from J.D. you know, J.D. vance doesn't miss. You know, as far as I'm concerned, this guy is, he is super consistent on saying the right thing and taking the right position. So, yeah, I think that that's where I am too. I am hoping that this will be a, a fantastic Pope who will reinvigorate the Catholic Church in a lot of places around the world where it could really use that more and more in this country. Clay, there are young people like 20s, 30s, who are turning to the Catholic Church because they realize a society soaked in weed and alcoholism and selfies and porn everywhere and all this stuff and trying to be a boss guy or a boss girl. And materialism is one that has inherent existential crises for the people that chase that life. And they want structure, they want belief, they want God. And the Catholic Church is providing that to more and more young people who are seeking it out. It's one thing to be born into, I was born into a very Catholic family. It's another thing, I think for people as they get older to say I seek out this church and it's because of what it has stood for for thousands of years.
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The white smoke was seen. The new Pope is picked, has been picked. Leo the 14th and it is a. It is a holy day for Catholics. A lot of interesting stuff going on here and a lot of you are weighing in on this. We appreciate all of that. Of course. Let's see. Steve in Denver wants to talk to us. What's going on, Steve? Yeah. Hey, Buck and Clay. Hey. My son is a priest. He's been a priest for three years. I'm a devout Catholic. I think it's great. Remember, everything we heard from Francis was through the liberal media. That would misquote Trump all the time. And I'll tell you, looking at the new seminarians, the new priests coming out, they're all lions and they're all orthodox. There ain't no libs among them. I think the church is in great shape and I think this will help church membership in the United States. And I think that's great.
Buck Sexton
I agree with that call. In general, I'm not Catholic, but I think that I was just using my son as an example who's 17. I think a lot of people just think it's super cool that there is a pope who is an American. And I don't know how he's going to do a lot of people weighing in. But I actually agree with that caller that as a layperson out here, I think the general vibe, I think JD Vance handled it well. Donald Trump handled it well, is just, hey, it's awesome to have a pope who is an American citizen, which most of us thought we would never see.
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Summary of "Hour 3 - Reacting to Pope Leo XIV" from The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Release Date: May 8, 2025
Introduction
In this compelling episode of "The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show," hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve into the historic election of the first American Pope, Leo XIV. The discussion navigates through Pope Leo XIV's background, his social media footprint, potential political and doctrinal implications, and the diverse reactions from listeners. This comprehensive analysis provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of what Pope Leo XIV's papacy might mean for the Catholic Church and broader societal dynamics.
Background of Pope Leo XIV
Pope Leo XIV, an American native from Chicago, marks a significant milestone as the first pope hailing from the United States. His extensive career includes a substantial period spent in Peru, reflecting his international experience within the Church. Notably, Leo XIV is fluent in Italian and Spanish but did not speak English during his papal announcement, a point of curiosity and speculation among listeners.
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Social Media Presence and Political Leanings
A focal point of the episode is Pope Leo XIV's active presence on social media, particularly Twitter—something unprecedented for a pope. Buck Sexton highlights that Pope Leo XIV has maintained a Twitter account since 2011, using it to share and comment on various social and political issues.
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Pope Leo XIV’s tweets suggest a leaning towards social justice, addressing topics like racism, immigration, and gun violence. His criticism of figures such as JD Vance and Donald Trump, along with support for DACA and condemnation of racism, positions him as potentially aligning with progressive social causes.
Hosts' Perspectives
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton engage in a thorough examination of the implications of having an American pope with apparent social justice inclinations. Clay expresses a mix of nostalgia and concern, recalling his own Catholic upbringing and questioning how Pope Leo XIV's perspectives will align with traditional church doctrines.
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Buck considers the political dimensions, suggesting that an American pope might face unique scrutiny from U.S. media and political figures. He posits that Pope Leo XIV's comments may reflect broader internal Church dynamics, potentially serving as a rebuke to certain political ideologies.
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Listeners' Reactions
The episode features a range of listener calls, showcasing diverse opinions on Pope Leo XIV's election. Some listeners express skepticism and concern over his social justice-oriented views, while others are optimistic about the potential revitalization of the Church's influence, especially in the United States.
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These interactions highlight the tension between traditional Catholic doctrines and the perceived progressive stances of the new pope.
Implications for the Catholic Church and Society
The hosts and callers debate the potential shifts within the Catholic Church under Pope Leo XIV's leadership. Concerns revolve around whether his American and socially progressive background will lead to doctrinal changes or reinforce existing teachings with a modern twist. The discussion extends to the possible impact on global Catholicism, especially in regions grappling with issues like migration, racial justice, and political polarization.
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Historical and Political Context
The episode briefly touches upon historical precedents and the political environment surrounding the election of Pope Leo XIV. Clay references the Iran-Contra Affair and the ongoing FBI investigation into Attorney General Letitia James, indicating a broader landscape of political tension and scrutiny that intersects with religious leadership.
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Conclusion
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton wrap up the episode by reaffirming the historic nature of Pope Leo XIV’s election and the myriad of possibilities it presents for the Catholic Church. They emphasize the importance of observing how his leadership will navigate contemporary challenges while adhering to or evolving traditional Church doctrines. The hosts express a commitment to continue monitoring and discussing the developments surrounding Pope Leo XIV in future episodes.
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Overall Impression
This episode provides a thorough exploration of the election of Pope Leo XIV, reflecting on his potential impact as the first American pope with notable social justice inclinations. Through insightful analysis and diverse listener feedback, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton offer listeners a comprehensive perspective on the future direction of the Catholic Church under Pope Leo XIV's leadership.