Hour 3 - Robinson Charges

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 3: Robinson Charges
Date: September 16, 2025
Podcast: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show (iHeartPodcasts)

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Episode Overview

This hour of the show centers on the breaking news of formal charges being announced against Tyler James Robinson, the alleged assassin of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Hosts Clay Travis and Buck Sexton provide live reaction and analysis as Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray announces the charges at a press conference. The discussion expands into the political motivations behind the assassination, implications for free speech, and the ongoing climate of political violence. Additional commentary is provided by Nate Morris, a U.S. Senate candidate from Kentucky and associate of Charlie Kirk.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Charges Announced in Charlie Kirk Assassination ([09:43]–[16:33])

• Live Press Conference: Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray lays out a seven-count indictment against Tyler James Robinson, including capital murder, as well as several counts of obstruction of justice and witness tampering. The state will pursue the death penalty, citing political motivation.
• Political Motivations: The prosecution alleges Robinson targeted Kirk “based on Charlie Kirk's political expression and did so knowing that children were present and would witness the homicide.” (Jeff Gray, [09:43])
• Details of the Crime: Kirk was killed with a bolt-action rifle during a Turning Point USA event at Utah Valley University. Robinson allegedly attempted to destroy evidence and encouraged his roommate to remain silent.
• Explicit Assertion: “Today, after reviewing the evidence that law enforcement has collected thus far, I am filing a criminal information charging Tyler James Robinson…with aggravated murder, a capital offense...” (Jeff Gray, [09:43])

2. Analysis by Clay and Buck ([16:33]–[24:53])

• Death Penalty Justified: Both hosts agree the case warrants capital punishment due to the political nature and public nature of the crime.
  • “They are seeking the death penalty… There can’t be a more clear instance of when you would need to use that ultimate sanction.” (Buck Sexton, [22:53])
• Discussion of Evidence: The evidence includes Robinson's instructions to his roommate to delete incriminating texts, targeted rifle practice at home, and clear evidence of political motivation.
• Online Radicalization: The hosts and Attny. Gray note the role of Discord chats, message boards, and the often-difficult nature of establishing intent and foreknowledge in digital spaces.
  • “Some of these prosecutions can be very difficult because…it's an online message board. People lie all the time about everything.” (Buck Sexton, [07:01])
• Comparison to Other Incidents: The murder of Irina, a Ukrainian refugee in North Carolina, is referenced as part of a broader problem with violent crime and insufficient accountability for perpetrators.

3. Further Findings from Prosecution ([24:53]–[28:03])

• Forensic Details: Police found the murder weapon, target boards, and shell casings with etched messages in Robinson’s residence.
• Text Analysis: Robinson made confessional statements in messages to his roommate, indicating both premeditation and attempts to avoid detection.
  • “Only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. Remember how he was engraving bullets? The FN messages are mostly a big meme.” (Jeff Gray quoting evidence, [24:53])
• Fair Trial Concerns: Attorney Gray is careful to label all presented information as “allegations” until tested in court, stressing the importance of a fair and impartial trial.

4. Political and Cultural Implications ([28:03]–[35:09])

• Host Reactions: Clay and Buck discuss the salience of Robinson’s political motives, the manipulation of public perception by segments of the media, and the climate leading to such violence.
  • “There was definitely a political motivation here so we can stop with this nonsense... His family said that he had moved to the left in recent years and Robinson was very upset that his father was so pro Maga.” (Clay Travis, [28:03])
• Social Issues Highlighted:
  • Radicalization on trans and LGBTQ+ issues cited as the catalyst for political violence.
  • “His mom said that her son became more pro gay and trans rights [oriented] in the past year as well.” (Buck Sexton, [33:09])
• Broader Rhetorical Concerns:
  • The hosts warn about the dangers of equating speech with violence and the societal consequences of repeatedly labeling opponents as Nazis or Hitler.
    • “They’re calling us Nazis because that is the justification for them to kill us.” (Buck Sexton, [35:04])
  • “If you did think that someone was Hitler, that was the rationale for why we can be violent against you. You're a Nazi. So we're allowed to kill.” (Clay Travis, [35:04])

5. Personal Reactions and Reflections ([39:50]–[44:59])

• Interview: Nate Morris (U.S. Senate Candidate, Kentucky):
  • Mourning Kirk’s death, calls it a “tragedy” and praises his activism in youth politics. ([39:50])
  • Argues left-wing rhetoric and tolerance of radicalism are enabling violence.
    • “The radical left, they need to take a hard look in the mirror. They have blood on their hands.” (Nate Morris, [40:59])
    • “This isn’t a society…that’s left and right… This is good and evil. We are fighting evil every day as conservatives…” (Nate Morris, [42:37])
  • Raises concerns about mainstream media's handling of such events and their portrayal of conservatives.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Cash Patel Clashes with Adam Schiff:
  • “You are the biggest fraud to ever sit in the United States Senate. You are disgraced to this institution and an utter coward.” (Cash Patel to Adam Schiff, [04:06])
  • Hosts’ reaction: “Get him, Cash.” (Clay Travis, [04:50]); “I like it.” (Buck Sexton, [04:51])
• On the Death Penalty and Motivation:
  • “They are seeking the death penalty… They absolutely should.” (Buck Sexton, [22:53])
  • “They are absolutely going for the death penalty here and they absolutely should. I mean, there. I can't be a. Can't be a more clear instance. I think of when you would need to use that ultimate sanction.” (Buck Sexton, [22:53])
• On Evidence and Motive:
  • “He prayed… So this was very much a premeditated [crime]. He was training himself for this.” (Clay Travis, [32:36])

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• [02:59] – Main show begins, hosts introduce breaking news story.
• [04:03] – Cash Patel confronts Adam Schiff (audio clip and commentary).
• [09:43] – Press conference starts, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray announces charges.
• [16:33] – Hosts' immediate breakdown and reactions to the charges.
• [24:53] – Further details from Jeff Gray about forensic evidence and suspect's behavior.
• [28:03] – Hosts' analysis of the evidence and political motivation.
• [33:09] – Discussion of the implications of Robinson’s online footprint and personal background.
• [39:50] – Interview with Senate candidate Nate Morris, personal reminiscences about Kirk.
• [42:05] – Nate Morris on media and rhetoric leading to violence.
• [44:59] – Interview conclusion, show wrap-up.

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Tone and Language

• Language: Direct, impassioned, combative, and occasionally darkly humorous.
• Tone: Outraged at political violence, sharply critical of Democrats and some media narratives, focused on justice and defense of free speech.
• Host Styles: Both hosts emphasize law-and-order perspectives, transparency in legal proceedings, and a cultural critique of left-progressive ideologies.

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Conclusion: Episode Takeaways

• The show delivered a real-time reaction to the official charges in the Charlie Kirk assassination, focusing particularly on the legal case and the cultural context.
• Hosts and guests agree that the murder was premeditated, politically motivated, and deserves strong legal consequences.
• The episode strongly connects the attack to rising political polarization, internet radicalization, and the dangers of incendiary rhetoric.
• Listeners receive both factual updates and the hosts’ perspectives on how this case fits within broader debates on crime, justice, and free speech.

Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Of clay and Buck kicks off right now. They have said they're going to be announcing officially the charges for the alleged assassin of our friend Charlie Kirk. We'll bring you that live when we can. Should be within minutes. I think they've set up for it. It has not yet started. They've got a feed going out to Provo, Utah, where they also may give some updates into the case. Certainly they'll have more for us on the legal positions that are being taken by the prosecution at this point in time. So we are, we're monitoring that closely and we will bring that to you as soon as we have it. I wanted to also bring you Cash Patel was up at the, up at the Capitol Hill today and he is getting some, well, what you would expect from some Democrat members of the Senate. And he really had just had enough with Adam Schiff. He decided that it was time for the gloves to come off a bit. And this is what it sounded like.

[Senator Adam Schiff]

The American people to believe that.

[Clay Travis]

Do you think they're stupid?

[Senator Adam Schiff]

No, I think the American people believe the truth, that I'm not in the weeds on the everyday movements of inmates. What I am doing is protecting this country, providing historic reform and combating the weaponization of intelligence by the likes of you. And we have countlessly proven you to be a liar in Russia gate in January 6. You are the biggest fraud to ever sit in the United States Senate. You are disgraced to this institution and an utter coward. I'm not surprised, I'm not surprised that you continue to lie from your perch and put on a show so you can go raise money for your charade. You are a political a fool at best.

[Clay Travis]

Get him, Cash.

[Buck Sexton]

Get him. I like it.

[Clay Travis]

I think strong case to be made that Schiff is certainly in our era, the most disgraceful and dishonest member of the United States Senate. I mean, there's some close competition, but Schiff is a particularly oleaginous and disreputable figure. Clay.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. And also just a proven liar. I some people you disagree with. I'll give you an example. Bernie Sanders. I think Bernie is wrong on pretty much everything that he says economically. But I respect the fact that he believes what he is arguing for. And I think he is an honest, in many ways advocate for the political philosophy he espouses.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, he's a socialist with four houses, but other than that.

[Buck Sexton]

But I at least respect that he's not trading Completely in falsehoods. I mean, Schiff was on. Correct me if I'm wrong, you remember this better than me. I think Schiff was on some of the intelligence committees, and he said, I've seen clear evidence that Trump is basically a Russian asset, a flagrant liar, just a blatant liar. And he used his position as the legitimizing basis for the lies that he told, which is worse to me than just being wrong to directly lie and use your perch on that intelligence Intelligence committee and claim, hey, I've seen a lot of things that the American public has not that prove that my position is correct, and it's all been proven to be just lies. And so I do think Cash calling him out there is among the. As among even the hypocrites, a high level. And we should reinforce again that we are waiting for the live press conference where we may get quite a bit more information about the charges relating to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That press conference in Utah is being brought to us shortly.

[Clay Travis]

Have we already played the cut from Cash from the. From up on the Hill with the Senate talking about the broad network of groups? Did we already play.

[Buck Sexton]

I think we did. I think that was Senator Hawley saying that there was at least 20 people in that Discord Chat, chat and maybe more that were involved in potentially having advanced knowledge about this attack. Now, remember, some of these prosecutions can be very difficult because the defense that a lot of these people could have is it's an online message board. People lie all the time about everything. I didn't think this was real. I didn't believe the guy when he said, hey, I'm gonna go kill Charlie Kirk. It's. People lie all the time on these message boards. You don't know who they are. And. And so I think proving knowledge and some intent of knowledge and all of these different aspects could. Could be very challenging to bring additional charges.

[Clay Travis]

Worth noting that before the horrific assassination of Charlie, the story that was a gut punch in its own right for all of us was the murder of Irina, the Ukrainian refugee. Yes. On that. On that light rail in. In North Carolina, you know that the judge presiding over that, the guy that's on video stabbing her to death, they've sent him to a psych eval. He may not spend a day in prison. I mean, he'll be in some kind of a mental health facility. Yes. You know, for the criminally insane. I don't think they call. I don't know what the terminology is they use for that now. They used to. That's what they used to say.

[Buck Sexton]

We need to bring back insane asylums. That's one thing that I think we should be doing. I was just walking around in New York City. I was on the phone and the number of times in New York City now that a crazy person just walks by screaming on the street. I don't remember that being normal. I mean, you lived here your whole life.

[Clay Travis]

Worse now and in midtown Manhattan, there are more people clearly in like drug induced stupor, just like lying on the street. I mean, not even, you know, like kind of just plopping down and deciding that they're going to have their, their fentanyl high. It's all over the place here. And this is the thing. I mean, people talk about. Wait, are we. Do we have the. Is this.

[Buck Sexton]

The press conference is starting. Let's go to this press conference.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, but I understand that you're under pressure and have a lot of different questions and we'll try to answer them. We're joined today by our sheriff and our prosecution team and our county commissioners. Jeff is going to be the only one speaking right now. And I'll introduce right now county attorney Jeff Gray.

[Jeff Gray]

The murder of Charlie Kirk is an American tragedy. Charlie Kirk was murdered while engaging in one of our most sacred, cherished American rights, the bedrock of our democratic republic, the free exchange of ideas in a search for truth, understanding and a more perfect union. It is also an offense against the state and to the peace and enjoyment of the people of Utah and of all those who visit here. But Charlie Kirk's murder also strikes a more personal and intimate chord. Charlie Kirk was first and foremost a husband and a father to two beautiful young children. He was a son. He was a brother and a friend. Like all murders, the senseless and needless taking of Charlie Kerr's life has shattered the lives of those he loved and those who loved him. To Charlie's wife, Erica, his two young children, his parents, his family and his friends, I express my sincere condolences and offer my heartfelt prayers on your behalf. I also want to express my concern for everyone who was at Charlie's Turning Point USA event at the university or university, Utah Valley University, and all who have been impacted by this tragedy. As county attorney, I am charged with bringing justice to those who offend our laws. I am charged with bringing justice for those who harmed. For those who are harmed. I am charged with bringing justice for Charlie Kirk. I am committed to these aims. I take this responsibility seriously. Today, after reviewing the evidence that law enforcement has collected thus far, I am filing a criminal information charging Tyler James Robinson, age 22, with the following crimes. Count one aggravated murder, a capital offense for intentionally or knowingly causing the death of Charlie Kirk under circumstances that created a great risk of death to others. Count two, felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, a first degree felony. The State is further alleging aggravating factors on counts one and two because the defendant is believed believed to have targeted Charlie Kirk based on Charlie Kirk's political expression and did so knowing that children were present and would witness the homicide. The State is also charging defendant with Count three, obstruction of justice, a second degree felony, for moving and concealing the rifle used in the shooting. Count four, obstruction of justice, a third degree, a second degree felony for disposing the clothing he wore during the shooting. Count five, witness tampering, a third degree felony for directing his roommate to delete his incriminating text Count six, witness tampering, a third degree felony for directing his roommate to stay silent if police questioned him and Count seven, commission of a violent offense in the presence of a child, a class A misdemeanor, for committing homicide knowing that children were present and and may have seen or heard the murder and did so based on Charlie Kirk's political expression. Also, following the press conference, I am filing a notice of intent to seek the death penalty. I do not take this decision lightly and it is a decision I have made independently as County Attorney based solely on the available evidence, circumstances and nature of the crime. Because we are seeking the death penalty, the defendant will continue to be held without bail in the Utah County Jail. Turning to the 10 page information, these are the allegations. On September 10, 2025, at approximately 12:23pm, Charlie Kirk was shot and killed while speaking to a large crowd on the campus of Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah. Police found the suspected murder weapon, a bolt action.30 06 rifle, nearby. Over the next approximately 33 hours, police conducted a manhunt manhunt for the shooter until the evening of September 11, 2025, when Tyler James Robinson surrendered to police at the Washington County Sheriff's Office. DNA consistent with Robinson was found on the rifle's trigger. After shooting Mr. Kirk, Robinson hid the gun, discarded the clothing he wore when he fired the rifle and told his roommate to delete incriminating text messages and not talk to police. Children were present at the time of the shooting. The shooting Turning Point USA, a non profit organization founded in 2012 by Charlie Kirk, organized a public outdoor event to be held at noon on September 10, 2025 at UVU. The event was the first in a series of similar events to be held at college campuses nationwide. Mr. Kirk is a well known conservative activist famous for these type of events where he discusses various political issues and debates with audience members. His events and comments have garnered a significant number of supporters and drawn the ire of many who disagree with his political views.

[Clay Travis]

So we have some updates there. The big the big takeaway and we'll break down more of this for you momentarily. They are seeking the death penalty for the assassin of Charlie Kirk and there were other charges discussed there which we will get into in just a moment discussing how they're they're taking as they should, the most all of the above approach many different counts, but top count capital murder, a death penalty offense. We will discuss this more here momentarily. Whenever there's a conversation that includes the word abortion, it's an awkward one. It's not easy for me to bring up, especially going with all the things going on these days. But we have to understand that the pro life community has to take action and there are babies being lost every day. That's why our friends at the Preborn Network of clinics are so critical, so important their work day in and day out. Because at the preborn clinics they offer hope, life and support for moms and their babies in the womb. And they offer this with a level of understanding and compassion that that pregnant mom may not get anywhere else. The preborn clinics also provide free ultrasounds that introduce a mother to her baby. And that moment when mom sees the tiny heartbeat on that screen can change everything. Over 350,000 babies have already been saved through this life giving work. It's happening every day. But they need your support. Just $28 a month. $28 a month can save a life. That's the price of an ultrasound for a mom who is coming into that clinic under duress thinking what should she do? Well, preborn is there to say. Let's introduce you to your baby and let's encourage you to have that baby come into this world. To give that baby life. Dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250. Say the word baby or go to preborn.com buck preborn.com Buck Clay Travis and.

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Learn [e-mail] Jeff Gray, the Utah County DA continuing to talk and lay out all of the details of the charges that they have now filed in Utah for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Seven different charges, the most significant of which was count one, aggravated murder, a capital offense, meaning you can charge for the death penalty. And later in this press conference, the attorney, the district attorney here, said he is going to be seeking the death penalty. He also said the motivation was Charlie Kirk's politics. No bail, no surprise given in this case. And there are additional charges, including witness tampering when this individual asked his roommate, a reported man transitioning to a woman, to delete all texts and remain silent if questions. Two witness tampering charges there. So what we are still waiting for. And again, he is now describing the writing on the bullets. Is Buck actual motivation for the charges and to what extent those will be laid out? We are monitoring this in real time. And that is, I think, the most significant aspect potentially of what is being said.

[Clay Travis]

He did say it is because of politics. So that now is on the official record from the prosecutor here. Clay, I think now every state is different. I think Utah, I know it's a death penalty state. Generally it is lethal injection. But I believe if they cannot get the lethal injection chemicals, it is a firing squad second option state. And people before 2004 who chose, because this is how long these things can take, can chose to have a firing squad instead of lethal injection, were allowed to make that determination for themselves. But they are absolutely going for the death penalty here and they absolutely should. I mean, there. I can't be a. Can't be a more clear instance. I think of when you would need to use that ultimate sanction of the state. We'll come into more of this here in just a second. But we do love good ranchers in the Sexton household. Every shipment that arrives, it feels like Christmas morning with a whole lot of meat. Good ranchers get their proteins from American ranchers and farmers. No antibiotics, no hormones, no seed oil. This is the kind of food you want to serve your family. And I know because I serve it to mine. Carrie and I eat good ranchers all the time. Clay, he's got good ranchers at home and he's actually had good ranchers steak night at my house in Florida. So I'm telling you, this is delicious. Top quality meat. You're going to love it. Get your own subscription. You can get $25 off each month. You can also get free shipping and a free gift in every order for life. That gift can be bacon, chicken nuggets, even wagyu burgers. And you can swap the gift each month try something new go to good ranchers.com use my name Buck as your promo code to get a one time $40 discount plus the $25 ongoing discount in future month. That's $65 off plus free meat for life every month. That's code [e-mail] go to goodranchers.com code buck we've got Jeff Gray, the Utah County District Attorney speaking. Still about important stuff from the Charlie Kirk assassination investigation play.

[Jeff Gray]

Only thing I left was the rapple was the rifle wrapped in a towel. Remember how he was engraving bullets? The FN messages are mostly a big meme. If I see notice bulge UWU on fox new I might have a stroke. All right, I'm gonna have to leave it. That really effing sucks. Judging from today I'd say Grandpa's gun does just fine. Idk I think that was a 2 a 2k dollar scope. Wink wink. Robinson Robinson again. Delete this exchange again. Robinson My dad wants photos of the rifle. He says Grandpa wants to know who has what. The Feds released a photo of the rifle and it is very unique. He's calling me rn not answering. Robinson Since Trump got into office my dad has been pretty die hard maga. Robinson I'm going to turn myself in willingly. One of my neighbors here is a deputy for the sheriff. Again. You are all I worry about. Love. That came from Robinson roommate I'm much more worried about you Robinson. Don't talk to the media. Please don't take any interviews or make any comments. If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer and stay silent. The search for Robinson's residence. Police executed a search warrant on Robinson's residence. During that search, police discovered a shell casing with etchings like the etchings found on the shells in the rifle near uvu. Police also found several target boards with bullet holes in Robinson's home. Now, as I stated in the beginning, when I read those allegations, these are allegations and like the evidence set forth in this statement, those allegations, what you've heard from the media, even from state and federal officials, has not been tested in the crucible of a jury trial. I understand the public's desire to know the facts. My own family members have pressed me for information. Why are we reluctant to share the details of the investigation itself and comment on the case? Because I want to ensure a fair and impartial trial. I became a prosecutor because of my love for the ideals of this great country and the principles embedded in our Constitution. The free exchange of ideas and opinions is critical to this great American experiment.

[Clay Travis]

Unpack some of this here. He went in here, Jeff Gray, who's the Utah County District attorney at the very top, as we discussed. He says there's a capital murder issue. They're going for the death penalty. And then he laid out a whole bunch of other charges. Obstruction, felony discharge of a weapon. All of that is part of the case. But obviously this really is just going to hinge on the capital murder charge because if he gets that, he's facing the death penalty, so nothing else really matters for his incarceration, for his sentencing. So something else I thought was. Was interesting from the one is he said that there was definitely a political motivation here so we can, we can stop with this nonsense. You're hearing from some people on the left that, oh, we don't even know. We don't know what his politics are. His family said that he had moved to the left in recent years and Robinson was very upset that his father was so pro maga. So he was upset that his dad was pro Trump because he was obviously not pro Trump because he was a left wing maniac. He also did have a trans boyfriend, girlfriend, you know, a trans man dressing as a woman who's also a furry that he was living with was his girlfriend or his what, you know, however you want to phrase it. That's confirmed here by the Utah County District attorney. Something else I thought was interesting though, Clay, from this. I'm wondering what your biggest takeaways were from this press conference. He's telling people to be silent after the fact, almost seeming like he thinks that that's going to matter. I mean, he left quite a trail and had said on all these chats, I'm the guy who did it. If you're writing I'm the guy who did it, then telling somebody else not to say anything to police just seems like a very strange position for, For. Well, he's an assassin. I mean, I guess we can't get into his mind, but that was that. Just start struck me as odd because that's another charge that he faces now is the obstruction charge. Not that that will make really any difference.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, look, there are a couple of things that stood out as we were playing that audio. Yes. My guess is that he thought, because he's probably not most of these discord servers, I think you have a screen name. It's not like your actual name. So I think he thought probably I can brag and get away with things on a social media account. Obviously not being aware of how Trackable. Sometimes that can be. But all of this evidence marshaled as it was just laid out, a lot of it is the text message to this boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever you want to call it, that really basically is going to lay out exactly why he was motivated. There was an element of, hey, I don't want to see myself on Fox News, or I don't want them to be reading what I put on to the bullets necessarily. Again, to your point, dad was very pro Trump and that upset him. He had written a confession underneath the keyboard inside of their apartment. It sounds like I had a chance basically to take out Charlie Kirk. And I did it political in nature. I don't know how much. I actually went into our studio here in New York to check and see if MSNBC was covering this. I think it's going to be very hard now for people on the left to say, oh, this is a super right wing. They've tried to say this right. They have tried to say this is a super right wing zealot. They killed him because they weren't. He wasn't right wing enough. I think they're arguing.

[Clay Travis]

Their hope, Clay, was that they could put that disinformation out there in advance of it being more official like this to. To really delude as many people as possible on their own side that somehow this was not a man, not a person of the left. I would also say, oh, the, the strange gates that was talked about, the way that he walked on surveillance because he had. He hid the rifle in his pants. Yeah. So that is how he got the rifle close to the. Close to the venue. This is this as much as an open and shut case can exist. It feels like this is one. He's facing everything from capital murder to obstruction of justice, witness tampering, felony discharge of a weapon. There's all these different charges. I wonder how quickly they will proceed with this and what the. You know, usually the appeals process can take a very long time. So let's say he is found guilty. This, though, may be a time when they try to move more quickly.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

You don't have somebody who faces, you know, who is for 20 years on death row, which can happen. So we're watching all this, but pretty much at this stage, every, oh, he had a target board with bullet holes in his home. So he was practicing. So the people that were saying, well, is he someone who had spent some time, you know, zeroing in and understanding the functions of this rifle? The answer is yes, he pray. So this was a very much a premeditated he was, he was training himself for this. He was preparing for.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh, the district attorney. We need to get this audio. Said the mom said that her son became more pro gay and trans rights oriented in the past year as well. We need to get that audio.

[Clay Travis]

But think about the mentality here for a second, Clay. This is really something that's stuck out to me, is these people who. And it's not just this guy Robinson who's the, you know, the assassin. Other people who are calling for violence against conservatives. There's something that. One is the issue that they're most upset about is the trans issue. That's one. Yeah. You see this over and over again. The trans issue is more upsetting to them, really, than anything else. The other thing, though, is they will say, I have to. Like this guy was saying, I have to do this horrible thing because of all the hate. Yeah. You're going to shoot someone because of hateful words. You think the other person is hateful. I mean, you know, this is. This is deranged. I mean, this is a crazy thing.

[Buck Sexton]

To so to work toward. I think it's also important, though, to come back to the foundational element here. This is all directly connected to two things to me. One, the idea that words are violence because his deluded mind believes that because people, Charlie Kirk or others say things he doesn't like, violence is the answer to this. That is point one. Point two is to me, as we look at this attack, the left has a massive issue with labeling people as Hitler and Nazis. They're calling us Nazis because that is the justification for them to kill us. I think a lot of people need to hammer this home. It's not because to a large extent they believe that we are Nazis. It's because these people then take that as an excuse. If you did think that someone was.

[Clay Travis]

Hitler, that was the rationale for why we can be violent against you. You're a Nazi. So we're allowed to kill.

[Buck Sexton]

That's right.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

And so that's where this rhetoric has actions that lead directly to this. We'll talk about this. We got Nate Morris, who's running for Senate in Kentucky, and Charlie Kirk was with him for the launch of the campaign. We will talk with him, find out what his experience with Charlie Kirk was like. To close out the Tuesday edition of the show, I'm going to be shortly thereafter going to do a debate on sports, politics and more with ESPN's Stephen A. Smith. And you on Thursday can play along with us at Prize Picks where you get $50 when you go and sign up right now and if you like football, like I like football, like many of us do. You like base? You're a sports fan in general. Price picks available 40 plus states California, Texas, Florida, Georgia among them. If you're feeling left out, over 13 million people have played. Use My Name Clay. You get $50 when you play. $5 super easy to play. We'll give you a pick on Thursday, something to have fun with as we roll into the weekend. PricePix.com code Clay for $50. That's PricePicks.com code Clay keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the team. 467 podcast Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Learn [e-mail] welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show again, reports coming out about the charges. We go up to Kentucky to speak with Nate Morris who's running for Senate there. And Nate, I know it's a quick turn here. We had breaking news, but we want to make sure that we gave you an opportunity here. You've known Charlie for some time. He was involved in helping to launch your campaign. What is the last week been like for you?

[Nate Morris]

Oh, it's been a tragedy. And like the rest of America, we've been grieving our team as a campaign and Charlie was involved almost in everything we did in our messaging and the way that we went out to Kentuckians. And as you know, Charlie was, was a big believer that the young people of this country could change it. And he obviously saw that in our campaign and was part of it. And it's just, it's, it's been terrible and tragic to watch. But I believe this is a new beginning. And I think Charlie's work is just starting. And I think that his death marks the new beginning of a revolution we're going to see in this country.

[Clay Travis]

Nate, thanks for being here with us on Clay And Buck, you are obviously somebody who as you're going to be running here for the Senate in Kentucky, has to think about what the dialogue should be going forward or how we should handle our politics. What do you make of the conversation right now about whether there should be accountability for off the hinges rhetoric stuff that's really outside versus the both sides ism that we see? I mean, where do you come down on that?

[Nate Morris]

Well, the radical left, they need to take a hard look in the mirror. They have blood on their hands. And we've seen this over and over again in these shootings that are particularly connected to the transgender movement in our country. This is a systemic problem. And between the dialogue and refusing to call out these shooters and the patterns that we've seen over and over again because of political correctness or pushing a political agenda, it's cost people their lives in many cases. And in Charlie's case, he was assassinated because of what he said and what he believed. Hard stop. And the left refuses to say exactly what's going on here in our country. And the left has carte blanche to make Christians, to make conservatives, to make Republicans into these demons that they make us into the mainstream media. And we've got to stand very strong and demand accountability from the mainstream media and from all of our institutions that have tried to marginalize us and put us in danger over and over again.

[Buck Sexton]

Trans boyfriend involved here. I just want to read a text. I had enough of his hatred. This is the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk. Some hate can't be negotiated out. Buck just talked about this as we went to break. But, Nate, can you believe that the left has convinced itself to such a degree that words are violence, that the response to words that they consider violent is now death? I mean, that is basically the logic under which this guy operated.

[Nate Morris]

That's exactly right. And look at the rhetoric that we see on X. Everything is justified to the radical left. They've made us out to be evil because we disagree with them. And they give their self justification to take any means necessary within their own hands to strike violence against us. And that's absolutely crazy to think about that we live in a world like this. I mean, you know, one of the things that Charlie would often talk about, this isn't a society that we're living in that's left and right, Democrat and Republican. Clay. This is good and evil. We are fighting evil every day as conservatives and people that believe this country should be strong and people that are connected to the America first movement. And look, just last year, our president was nearly assassinated not once, but twice. And the radical left continues to perpetuate this violence against people who believe what we believe and people who stand for what we stand for. And we can't take it anymore. We cannot accept it.

[Buck Sexton]

No doubt at all. Nate, I'll give you an opportunity here. We're closing up the show. You're running for Senate. We know that's a very competitive primary that's going on, but I'll give you an opportunity to tell people why you're the right choice to replace Mitch McConnell in the state of Kentucky.

[Nate Morris]

Well, thank you. Well, absolutely. And I'm glad to be with you and to get to talk about my friend Charlie Kirk. I'm sorry, honored and humbled when he came to me and said, I'm going to endorse you and help you launch your campaign. And that's put us on a tremendous trajectory to introduce ourselves to the people of Kentucky. But I'm running in the America first lane as an outsider. I'm not a career politician. I've never run for office before. And I'm running to break the reins of Mitch McConnell and the stranglehold that he's had on Kentucky politics for the last 40 years. And my two opponents are McConnell acolytes. And we cannot send the face of the establishment Rhino movement in Washington, D.C. we cannot send one of their accolades back to D.C. because we know career politicians have run us off a cliff and Charlie knew that. And I'm so proud that he was the first to endorse us. And we're going to honor him by winning this thing and continuing to fight every day like Charlie would have wanted to.

[Clay Travis]

Nate, appreciate you being here. Nate Morris, U.S. senate candidate in Kentucky Nate, good luck to you and thanks for coming on the show.

[Buck Sexton]

Some breaking news in other arenas as we go to close the show today. Buck your beloved TikTok evidently going to be purchased per the Wall Street Journal by a combination of Oracle, Silver Lake Anderson to control TikTok us per the Wall Street Journal. I'm sure that will be a topic of some interest tomorrow, but we appreciate all of you hanging out with us and we'll be back tomorrow with more on all of this.

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