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Buck Sexton
Travis, Buck Sexton show. All of you hanging out with us. This is still live, right? If I'm not mistaken, the White House Cabinet meeting has now been going on, Buck, for the entirety of our radio show. We are competing with the Trump show head to head.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
It's another radio show, Clay. That's really what it is.
Buck Sexton
Trump has been doing over two hours straight, along with his cabinet, taking questions. It does feel to some extent, Buck, like this is a response to the New York Times saying that he doesn't have the vitality and the vigor that he used to. Uh, maybe I'm wrong on this. But then a couple of days later he's like, all right, let's just do a three hour, potentially press conference that Fox News has been carrying straight through and even CNN now has elected to go live to Trump. Uh, so we're continuing to monitor that. I just sent a couple of clips to producer Greg as Hegseth has weighed in more on the on the boat strike off Venezuela, which evidently, Buck, happened September 2nd. So this was one of the earliest strikes that occurred on the boats. I do think that matters here. I don't know that we've given a date, but he did in his answer, which we will have soon. Vote, Go vote. Go vote. If you are in the 7th congressional. Congressional district in the state of Tennessee, it is election Day. I went this morning, I took my fifth grader to school, I dropped him off, and then I went into the polling place right there at his school. My wife is working all day at, as a volunteer at this local polling center. I think I mentioned this before, Buck, but you know Laura quite well. She was really fired up at the, at the overall security issues associated with elections. And so she said, well, heck, I want to see this for myself. So she decided that she would volunteer and watch as the election is taking place here locally. By the way, President Trump standing up right now. We are no longer competing with the Trump show. He has just walked out after a marathon two plus hour session with his cabinet and it is just now breaking up in real time. All right, this is funny. Marco Rubio, Secretary of State. Buck, there are many different super serious stories that are going on, but you know, I trust college football fans implicitly. In addition to everything else that was discussed, Marco Rubio came out and said, if the Miami Hurricanes, your new hometown team, Buck, if they're not in the playoff. He's furious. And he's going to put President Trump in charge of next year's playoff. This is funny. This did just happen, among many other things in the, in the cabinet meeting. Listen to this.
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And I know I'm last, so I.
Buck Sexton
Wanted to be fast, but there was.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
A lot to cover.
Buck Sexton
I do want to say this is.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
The most wonderful, magical time of the year. By that, of course, I'm referring to the college football playoffs.
Buck Sexton
And I just want to say as a point of personal privilege, if, and.
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I'm a Florida Gator, but if the.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
University of Miami gets screwed out of.
Buck Sexton
The college football playoffs after going 10 and 2 and beating Notre Dame, the.
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Whole thing should be scrapped.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
And you're going to have to take over next year. Marco better watch out. He could get another job. Maybe he becomes like SEC commissioner or something. In addition to, I think he's secretary of state, national security adviser, USAID director. The Marco portfolio is a remarkable thing to behold.
Buck Sexton
Your wife is a Florida Gator grad. Marco Rubio son is a football player for the Florida Gators. So I was actually texting with him over the weekend. Nothing at all to do with serious things, just about the college football coaching searches going on. Marco Rubio is doing a fantastic job, but so many different topics. I did think it was funny that he decided that he wanted to weigh in on that because Marco Rubio is a Miami guy, big college football fan, which is one reason we get along so well. Do we have from producer Greg yet the clip that I sent in of Hegseth giving more details? It's not in yet, Buck. Okay, we will have this is the lead story now for people out there who are saying, what are you doing here? Why are you talking about that? So lead story everywhere. We want to make sure that we're addressing it. Well, cnn, MSNBC and Fox News basically all covering this as the top news story of the day.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
Yeah. Well, because the implications of this, first of all, aren't just about the attempts to undermine and attack Hegseth and with him, this administration, there's also this issue of what this does to Venezuela. And increasingly we have what seems to be a de facto regime change policy in place. Now, regime change and nation building are not necessarily things that go hand in hand, but they often do. And so this is going to start to bring up some very important and difficult conversations, I think if Maduro goes. But here we have Secretary Hegseth just, just moments ago getting into the details of this strike that has been widely reported on. Let's listen to the Secretary of War.
Pete Hegseth
I didn't stick around for the hour and two hours, whatever, where all the sensitive site exploitation digitally occurs. So I moved on to my next meeting. A couple of hours later, I learned that that commander had made the. Which he had the complete authority to do. And by the way, Admiral Bradley made the correct decision to ultimately sink the boat and eliminate the threat. He sunk the boat. Sunk the boat and eliminated the threat. And he was the right call. We have his back. And the American people are safer because narco terrorists know you can't bring drugs through the water. And eventually on land, if necessary, to the American people, we will eliminate that threat and we're proud to do it.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
So you didn't see any survivors?
Buck Sexton
To be clear, after the first strike.
Pete Hegseth
I did not personally see survivors, but I stand because the thing was on fire, that was exploded in fire smoke. You can't see anything.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
You got digital.
Pete Hegseth
This is called the fog of war. This is what you and the press don't understand. You sit in your air conditioned offices or up on Capitol Hill and you nitpick and you plant fake stories in the Washington Post about kill everybody phrases on anonymous sources, not based in anything, not based in any truth at all. And then you want to throw up really irresponsible terms about American heroes, about the judgment that they made. I wrote a whole book on this topic because of what politicians and the press do, does to war fighters. President Trump has empowered commanders, commanders to do what is necessary, which is dark and difficult things in the dead of night on behalf of the American people. We support them and we will stop the poisoning of the American people.
Buck Sexton
Okay, that's a better answer. I still think, and this is the lawyer in me, Buck, I want a clear, concise, direct description of what the Admiral did. Um, and it may be the case that, that they haven't talked in detail about this decision, but that's, that would help to end this story. I believe, once and for all.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
It's hard to sound objective, talking about Pete, because you and I both know Pete and are. We're personally friends with Pete. We've, I've known Pete now for almost 15 years. So I just, I say that because I think we need to be honest about where we come from, especially talking with some of these public figures who we know on a personal level. And I know Pete loves the country and I know he loves the war fighters in the United States military like his own family. And so I bring all of that to this discussion too. All right, that said, I think that the problem that he's running into here a little bit, Clay, is when you start to say things. Again, I'm looking at this like the enemy here in the media, which he's addressing very clearly. He's saying, you guys are a bunch of jerks who don't understand anything. But when he says things like fog of war, that they're going to take that now and say, so you don't know if there were survivors or not. That's what they're. That's the next stage. Now, I think in this process, it went from the order to kill survivors to. Now you're saying fog of war again. I understand from the very beginning. So you don't need to call in and say what he did is totally lawful. I believe that Pete Hegseth and the. And the JSOC here, Joint Special Operations Command, I think they operated in a lawful fashion. I am just saying the way this is turning into a story is leaving bits of daylight here with the facts as presented, the narrative as constructed from the top of the. Of the Pentagon hierarchy. And when you say things like, you.
Buck Sexton
Know, fog of war, I get it.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
I know what he's saying. But they're going to say, so you don't even know if there were. Know there was smoke. You know, there could have been survivors. You know, this is the next. This is the next phase of it, I think totally.
Buck Sexton
And this is why I say, and this is me speaking as a former criminal defense attorney. Your story has to be consistent and you have to stick to it and you have to put it out there, and it has to be ironclad in terms of you being able to prove what exactly it is. And I just think the story of we had to hit the boat a second time because it had not been completely obliterated and there were still drugs there, and they could have brought another boat in and gotten those drugs off, and they could have still come to the United States. The purpose of the mission was to ensure that that boat is completely obliterated and there are no drugs that survived the attack. The first attack. It did. We put in a second one. That's what happened. I don't know anything about the people that were on the boat, frankly, I don't care about them because they were terrorists trying to kill people in the United States. They may have survived, they may not have, but I know that boat didn't. And the drugs are gone. That's my answer. That's a pretty good one. I wish it had been given.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
Yeah, I Stop the threat. This is a threat that's identified. A threat that we can lawfully use the United States military to address. And Secretary of War Hegseth and his, those below him in the chain of command who were directly involved in the strike. They were operating to stop the threat against the American people. And if two missiles is what it required to stop the threat, then that is what it required. But this is why, again, you know, the specificity of the same thing in a self defense case. If somebody came at me, Clay, in my own home, which would be a very bad idea because I do have a lot of guns here and I am pretty trained up these days, but if somebody came at me in my own home and I, and I put one in them and then they say, well, why did you, why did you actually unload your whole magazine into this person who was coming at you, let's say with a knife or something? I would say because in the moment, that's what I believe to stop the threat against my life. That's the answer.
Buck Sexton
Yes.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
Right. It doesn't whether it's one bullet or 10 bullets. I acted to stop the threat against me and my family. What you don't want to get into is, well, I hit him five times. But then I thought, you know what, I got to get some headshots in here to make sure he's not moving anymore. You don't want to in a self defense situation say anything like that. This is those you, you don't have to know law of war necessarily to understand how this, when you're talking about use of force, you got to be very specific about why you're using that force. And I, I've sat through the classes, I've sat through the discuss. We had this in the CIA. We had to have conversations about lethal force. Right. This is, you have to understand what the framework is for using violence against another human being.
Buck Sexton
Always the threat wasn't eliminated with the first strike, so we had to have a second strike to eliminate the threat. This is not very complicated, but again, when they start nitpicking at you, I appreciate the fact that Pete recognizes he's the target here. Somebody, I think this is important, leaked probably very classified information to a large extent to the Washington Post, which may or may not be accurate. But somebody obviously has Pete as the target here. They're attempting to come after him, the Admiral and the President. I mean, their intent here matters. And so again, I, I think you have to eliminate this story to the best of your ability. You know, what happened over the weekend buck. I was watching games. My sister, my sister Lisa, she's awesome. Sat down on the couch. She's watching the games. She had. There was a cozy earth blanket on the couch. This is 100 true. I didn't even know this. She got the cozy earth blanket, a little bit chilly in Florida. She put the blanket over her. She didn't even know that we had a code. She went, got her phone. The blanket was so comfortable. And she ordered one for my mom and for her. That's how comfortable this blanket was. 100% true. She told. I said, did you use a code? She said, I didn't even know there.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
Was going to say. I love this story. Except we don't get credit for the sale of the blanket. But that's okay. We're going to sell a lot more blankets now because that's how amazing they are.
Buck Sexton
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Then the space hamster flew his hot air balloon all the way to the.
Clay Travis
Bottom of the ocean.
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Buck Sexton
Travis Buck Sexton show. Lots of love for Linda out there. Linda called in. I was like, well, surely Linda, you know, if they're like treading water and hanging onto the side of a boat, you wouldn't want to just machine gun them, would you? And Linda cut 36. Linda said, took a drag and said, nukem.
Senator Marsha Blackburn
Listen, who cares about the two guys in the water? They were bad guys.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
Bad guys. You got to take out the bad guys. No question.
Buck Sexton
There's a lot of people in the audience that are like, I, I love Linda.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
They want, they want Linda to be their local sheriff. Yeah, guys get no quarter.
Buck Sexton
Linda, if she had kids and the kids were like, I'm a little tired. I don't feel that good. I don't want to go to school. Linda's like, get in the car. Just driving with the, the windows rolled up, Dragon taking drags of her cigarettes. Every. Everybody's like, I can't wait.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
How did Linda start. Start becoming a Marlboro Red smoker?
Buck Sexton
I just think she just reminds me that you remember back in the day, nobody smokes anymore, basically. But you'd be in the car with a mom, and she was kind of a tough mom, and she'd be taking a drag on a cigarette, It'd be like 28 degrees outside. So she just occasionally rolled down the window and you'd be like, I can't breathe, mom. And she'd be like, you'll be fine. That's Linda, you know, just nuke them.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
Yeah. She made very clear her feelings on these things, that is for sure. We've had a fair amount of that, too. VIP email from Joe. Back in the day when Iran was blocking tankers going through the Strait of Hormuz, being in the navy, we fired upon Iranian boats. Plus the Iranians were taking over oil platforms and firing at US Ships. We didn't wait until we saw the whites of their eyes. We shelled them.
Buck Sexton
Period.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
Yeah, no, Joe. I mean, interesting perspective, but clearly Iranian warships getting, getting blown up by or shot at by American warships is a long established and well understood part of this equation. This is a little different. A little different. And just trying to make sure we're.
Buck Sexton
All clear on this.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
Like I keep saying, I just want to clarify, right, that if there are people clinging to wreckage. We don't machine gun them. And everyone's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean if they're really bad guys, ah, that's the Linda method. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I think we gotta, gotta reign that in a little. Pure Talk is giving you a chance to lock in a lifetime price on cell phone service that's gonna give you thousands of dollars in the future. Save you rather thousands of dollars in the future. 29.95 is Pure Talk's lifetime monthly price for unlimited talk, unlimited text, unlimited gift data, 30 gig hotspot. That's incredible deal for you. This is Pure Talk's top tier plan. Normally $65 a month, now it's 29.95amonth. You're saving over 50% every month. Make the switch today. Dial pound 250, say clay and Buck for Pure Talk's best unlimited plan for just 29.99295amonth for life. Pure talks US customer service team can have you switched in minutes. Keep your phone, keep your number and start saving with unlimited for life for less than 30 bucks a month. This is the plan, my friend. Start saving some money. Dial £250, say Clay and Buck. To switch to my wireless company, pure talk. Dial £250, say clay and Buck. Taxes and fees not included. Some restrictions apply. See PureTalk.com for details. Welcome back in here everybody. We are joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn. Senator Blackburn, always appreciate you being with.
Senator Marsha Blackburn
Us and it is always so good to join you. Thank you so much.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
First up, can you just speak to some politics going on in your home state, the seventh Congressional District. You got a loony leftist trying to sneak a congressional seat in what is not just a red area of the wonderful state of Tennessee, Senator Blackburn, but also Clay's backyard, like I think his yard is in fact considered part of the district. What can you tell us about this race today?
Senator Marsha Blackburn
Well, indeed, and we need everybody to get out and vote, that is for sure. And these off year special elections, sometimes they get a little funky on you. And what you have are Democrats that are very excited. They saw what they thought were big victories in blue areas and so now they're trying to California, Tennessee and are putting a lot of energy in that today. But Matt Van Epps is a good solid candidate. He is going to win. He is going to be an outstanding member of the U.S. house. He has wonderful experience and a record of service, a good solid record of service for the people of Tennessee and for this nation, his military service, his business expertise, the way he served, govern Lee in his Cabinet. And I know that Matt is going to bring that fighting spirit to work on the issues of cost of living and access to affordable health care and really getting the country back on track. You know, Joe Biden and the Democrats raised taxes. They ran up the cost of health care. Inflation was at 9.1%. And President Trump and Republicans are trying to get everything back track. Matt Van Epps is going to do a good job doing that. And the people of Tennessee support President Trump and his agenda.
Buck Sexton
We're talking to Senator Marsha Blackburn. She is also running for governor of Tennessee. She's telling all of you to get out in the 7th Congressional District, all the way from Fort Campbell, up on the border with Kentucky, all the way down south with Alabama, Nashville included, part of Davidson County, Franklin, Williamson County, Brentwood, all points in between. You also are a mom and a grandma and you have a USA Today editorial piece up about the lack of protection for young people online. And I know in social media era, there's a lot of moms, dads, grandmas, grandpas out there that are deeply concerned about this. What have you uncovered? What do people need to know and what should happen going forward?
Senator Marsha Blackburn
Yes, and the op ed is@time.com and this is work that we have done on the Kids Online Safety Act. And I was just on the phone talking with a house colleague, Kat Kamek, out of Florida, and she and I have several of these bills together. Look, Big Tech uses our children as a cash cow. And when kids are online, they are the product. And we've been trying to pass legislation that would protect children in the virtual space, just as we have laws in the physical space that says you can't sell alcohol and tobacco to kids, you can't expose them to pornography, you can't endanger children, you can't force children into contracts, you can't traffic children, you can't groom children. All of this, there are laws, but it happens in the virtual space 24 hours a day, seven days a week. And when you look at these apps that are catering to children, when you look at these platforms catering to children, and you know that Big Tech is trying to get these kids on their site and they want them to doom scroll for hours on end. And then you talk to parents and teachers and preachers and pediatricians and you hear that addiction to these screens is one of the biggest problems they have when it comes to cyberbullying and behavioral issues in schools. Most of it starts in the virtual space, when kids meet a drug dealer, a pedophile, a trafficker, a groomer, generally it is in the virtual space. And we need to put these protections in place for our children in the virtual space just as they exist in the physical space.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
Speaking to Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. Senator, the terrible terrorist attack that occurred just before the Thanksgiving holiday took the life of a National Guard, member of the National Guard and almost took another life, has got people focused in here on how could something like this happen. How was the vetting, or really what was the lack of vetting like to bring in many of these Afghans during the Biden withdrawal? I wanted you to speak to that and give us a sense as to what do you think the Trump administration is going to be able to or should do now that there's a recognition that there was insufficient vetting for many, perhaps most of the Afghans who were brought here during the Biden withdrawal.
Senator Marsha Blackburn
And actually the inspector General's report from 2022 with the Department of Homeland Security noted there was insufficient vetting. And the response from the Biden administration was that they were going to go back and do this vetting. Obviously, they did not. And now what the Trump administration is discussing doing is halting immigration while they catch up and make certain that they have vetted all these individuals, whether they came in through the Afghan welcome program that Biden had put in place, or it is people that are in the system that illegally were in the country or people that were here legally on a visa and have overstayed their visa. You're going to see this administration and this Department of Homeland Security and the Department of State circle back and actually clean up some of these. And if someone needs to go, they will be issued an order of defense, deportation, and then deported and removed from the country.
Buck Sexton
I don't think we've asked you about this, but I asked you about it in person the last time I saw you, and I want to make sure we hit it. I think it's a pretty extraordinary, unbelievable story that at least eight United States senators, including you, had your phones tapped as part of an investigation. I know that you guys are continuing to follow up on that. Can you tell our audience what happened there? Why, obviously it's significant and should never happen again. And what is going to happen as a result? Where is that story for people who don't know very much about it or haven't been paying attention?
Senator Marsha Blackburn
Yes, and the story is continuing to unfold as we're getting more documents and hearing more from Whistleblowers and I think it's tomorrow we have Judge Boasberg who is going to come before us. He is the one who issued as many 197 subpoenas for information on our phones. And on top of those subpoenas he put a non disclosure order which meant that the wireless companies could not tell us that they had a subpoena for our phone records. Now, we were targeted from what we have learned because we were all Republicans, we all support President Trump and we each of us had questions about the 2020 election. Now, the reason we're continuing to dig on this and to get information is because if they were going after phone records, there is no doubt and we have reason to believe that they went after other after the content of those contacts. Because what they did was to get every phone call I made or received and the location where I was when I made or received that call and who that call was made to or received from. And it started on January 1st of 21 with me. And it was a pure spying effort. It was a pure fishing expedition. But we also want to know, did they get the content of emails? Did they get the content of text messages? Was there any wiretapping in real time that they did? Did they surveil and investigate people that we were in contact with? What was the extent of that surveillance? Did they go after financial documents and other information about us? So we are trying to get to the bottom of us that I think each of the eight of us want to know the extent of this. And I will tell you this. We want to know what they've done to other conservatives. They know there were 197 subpoenas issued against 430 individuals, conservatives. And it was organizations and individuals in that mix. Citizens United, Turning Point usa, different organizations, what they were after. We know they got financial documents on some of those. But we want to see that, we want to make certain this never happens again. And conservatives have to be protected. And of course in this case, because you have some whistleblowers over at DOJ that were aware of this, they brought the information to Senator Grassley and that is how we've been able to find out as much as we have gotten so far. But what they did to conservatives and the extent of it. Jack Smith, who ran Arctic Frost, needs to be held to account. I think he ought to be in jail and we need to hold everyone to account. I have written a letter that calls for the Office of Professional Conduct at the Department of Justice to look into to his actions. He should be disbarred. We also have written a letter to the D.C. bar about his conduct and what the actions that he took and the email chain that we got last week. You know, the interesting thing is the attorney, the counsel that was advising Jack Smith and Arctic Frost told them this is a constitutional violation and pointed out to them what this, what we had said early on. It's a First and Fourth Amendment violation. It is a violation of the separation of powers. It's a violation of the speech and debate clause. It is a violation of due process. It is a violation of the Stored Communications Act. And to think they did this knowing it was outside of the law, but they hate Donald Trump and people that support Donald Trump and so they did it anyway.
Buck Sexton
Amen. It's a big story. I think we're going to continue to follow it on this program. Please keep us updated on it. And thanks for taking the time. And one more time, tell everybody to go vote. Senator.
Senator Marsha Blackburn
You got it. Be certain that you go vote today. Tennessee 7, Matt Van Epps needs your vote. Let's send a message that the Democrats are not going to take this seat.
Buck Sexton
Amen. That's Senator Marsha Blackburn. Great state of Tennessee, soon to be governor. Appreciate you, Senator.
Senator Marsha Blackburn
You got it. Take care.
Buck Sexton
All right, Buck. Your boy Pickles, he's actually turned into one of the greatest receivers in the NFL right now.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
George picked coming many miles away. This is not even the least I said always bet on Pickles and I was correct.
Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
U n D Here is another cut from Linda earlier. Let me play devil's advocate here. If, if it were to be reported and confirmed that the narco terrorists, which I agree are bad guys, were floating in the water and we ordered a helicopter to go in and to mow them down as they floated in the water, you wouldn't have an issue with that?
Senator Marsha Blackburn
I wouldn't have an issue with that at all. After letting in 20 million illegals.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
I, I respect the clarity here. I respect the no holds barred. You know, we got to start selling T shirts. When in doubt, take them out.
Buck Sexton
Linda when in doubt, take them out. Kelsey in Franklin, Tennessee, my backyard, legit. What you got for us? Kelsey?
Senator Marsha Blackburn
Hey, I just talked to my husband and he was in line voting for an hour. He said that he talked to some of the poll workers and they said that there were lines all day. He said a lot of talk around there was about church and family. So stay in line and vote.
Buck Sexton
Thank you for the called. Kelsey. I went Tennessee, seven residents, seventh congressional district, election day going on till 7pm Central. I went today. Thank you for the prompt, Kelsey. Tom in Oklahoma City. He's got Linda's back. Tom.
Senator Marsha Blackburn
Yeah, we hunted down bin Laden in.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
His home and killed him.
Buck Sexton
No one had a problem.
Senator Marsha Blackburn
These guys were in the act of a crime.
Buck Sexton
What's the difference?
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Buck Sexton
I mean, I, I pretty, I think, I think, I don't remember specifically. Didn't bin Laden have a gun and was using someone as a human shield?
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
Well, no, but I mean, he might have been reaching for an AK47 that was 20 or so feet away from him, possibly. Glad we took like Rob O' Neill or one of the Seal Team 6 guys to come on and tell us specifically, but I think, I think bin Laden had had a little bit of a twitchy arm and he went for something. You know what I mean? He messed around.
Buck Sexton
He found out Bob in Minnesota really fast. You want to just shoot everybody? Fire away.
Senator Marsha Blackburn
All right.
Buck Sexton
I met Randy Weaver, his wife and friends. What about Randy's wife being taken out by a military sniper holding a baby on her front porch. I want you liberals out there that are listening in the state of Minnesota. So kind of a We just went.
Guest Commentator (possibly Pete Hegseth)
Abby Ridge at the end of the show here. We'll have to come back to that later.
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Episode: Hour 3 – Senator Marsha Blackburn
Date: December 2, 2025
Host: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton
Guest: Senator Marsha Blackburn
This hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show is packed with analysis and spirited conversation on current news topics including the aftermath of a high-profile anti-narcotics military strike near Venezuela, election integrity and a key special congressional election in Tennessee, online safety for children, and controversial government surveillance of conservative senators. Senator Marsha Blackburn joins to discuss the Tennessee election, her legislative efforts on kids’ online safety, the consequences of insufficient vetting for Afghan refugees, and revelations about surveillance targeting GOP lawmakers.
(02:39 – 06:37)
(07:38 – 16:13)
(20:47 – 22:47, 41:55 – 44:08)
(24:14 – 26:24, 37:16 – 37:35, 42:46 – 43:20)
(26:24 – 29:14)
(29:14 – 31:16)
(31:16 – 37:04)
| Timestamp | Topic | |:-------------:|:--------------------------------------------| | 02:39 – 06:37 | Trump’s Cabinet Meeting & Media Coverage | | 07:38 – 16:13 | Venezuela Boat Strike, PR, and Escalation | | 20:47 – 22:47 | “Linda” and Callers Debate Narco Warfare | | 24:14 – 26:24 | TN 7th Congressional Election – Blackburn | | 26:24 – 29:14 | Online Safety for Kids – Legislative Push | | 29:14 – 31:16 | Afghan Refugee Vetting Failure | | 31:16 – 37:04 | GOP Senators’ Surveillance Scandal | | 41:55 – 44:08 | More “Linda” and Audience Calls on Ethics |
The episode maintains a lively, informal, and combative style, blending serious political analysis with wry humor, personal stories, and vivid listener engagement. The tone when discussing government accountability and children’s safety is crisp and urgent, while controversial military operations and audience calls spark banter and strong opinions.