Hour 3 - Should We Buy Greenland?

Summary

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show — Hour 3: Should We Buy Greenland?

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively third hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle a range of hot-button issues with their signature mix of insight and humor. The central theme is the ongoing debate around President Trump’s renewed interest in purchasing Greenland for U.S. national security, the strategic significance of the island, and the broader implications of American foreign policy. The hosts also dissect recent news cycles, including a controversial ICE shooting in Minneapolis, media narratives, and the perennial hypocrisy of elites on climate change. The discussion is wide-ranging, mixing serious geopolitical analysis with comic asides and sharp cultural commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why Buy Greenland? Strategic & Economic Motives

• Trump's Greenland Ambition:

  • President Trump is determined to pursue the acquisition of Greenland, in the face of Danish and Greenlandic resistance. Clay notes that White House meetings with Denmark and Greenland have not dissuaded Trump (02:42).
  • The rationale isn't about present-day Greenland, which relies heavily on Danish subsidies. Instead, it's long-term—mirroring historic U.S. acquisitions like Alaska and the Louisiana Purchase (06:00, 07:15).

• Economic Facts About Greenland:

  • Population: ~57,000.
  • The economy is heavily dependent on shrimp fishing, not mining—Denmark subsidizes Greenland with about $1 billion annually (05:21).
  • Many residents lack basic infrastructure, such as running water, and shower by melting ice (06:00).

“If you're out there... I bet you're not showering with melted ice, which I would imagine is pretty cold and not an intentional ice bath…” — Clay Travis (06:00)

• Comparisons to ‘Seward’s Folly’ and Real Estate Wisdom:
  • Historic ridicule of the Alaska purchase, initially dismissed as a folly, ultimately proved a visionary move—suggesting Greenland might also pay off for future generations (06:30).
  • “This is not a fixer, upper flopper. This is a long term play.” — Clay Travis (07:28)

2. Climate Change & Elite Hypocrisy

• Malibu Mansions and “Existential Threats”:
  • Discussion pivots to Kamala Harris’s $8 million beach house in Malibu, highlighting the apparent disconnect between climate alarmism and real estate actions of prominent Democrats (08:17–11:00).
  • Noting Barack Obama’s Martha’s Vineyard waterfront purchase, Clay and Buck mock the idea that elites truly believe their climate rhetoric.

“She’s clearly not scared of the erosion of the beaches or the cliffs...” — Buck Sexton (08:40) “It is incredible... the prices of real estate on coastal communities continues to skyrocket..." — Clay Travis (11:00)

3. Global Geopolitics: U.S. vs. Russia and China in the Arctic

• Security Imperatives:

  • Trump’s clip: “If we don't go in [to Greenland], Russia is going to go in and China is going to go in and there’s not a thing that Denmark can do about it, but we can do everything about it.” (19:20)
  • Buck underscores how U.S. rivals are aggressively seeking influence and access around the world, and Greenland would be no exception.

• Modern Arctic Transit & Submarine Technology:

  • Advances in transit and military technology make Arctic access and infrastructure increasingly valuable for U.S. defense and commerce (20:56, 22:48).

"This is a decision... that isn't about the next three years... it's about the next hundred years of American dominance..." — Clay Travis (21:15)

• Territorial Waters and Future Prospects:
  • Control of Greenland implicates territorial waters, crucial for monitoring nuclear subs and projecting power (23:10).

4. Inner Politics and Social Narratives: ICE, Minneapolis, and Media Framing

• Controversial Minneapolis Shooting:
  • Clay and Buck dissect how Rep. Ilhan Omar and left-leaning media frame a Minneapolis ICE shooting as “state-sanctioned violence,” when evidence overwhelmingly suggests it was the result of dangerous interference with law enforcement (25:17–26:47).
  • They highlight how narratives are constructed for emotional mobilization, not factual accuracy, likening the martyrdom myth to past incidents like “hands up, don’t shoot” (27:00).

"This is the creation of their martyrdom myth... they have to emotionalize this issue to draw people away from the facts." — Buck Sexton (26:47)

• Selective Outrage and Policy Hypocrisy:
  • The hosts challenge why certain violent acts—especially when involving illegal immigrants—don’t generate similar outrage or celebrity activism (31:05–32:56).
  • Sanctuary city policies and their consequences are criticized; Clay argues for federal supremacy and the necessity for a presidential crackdown (32:56).

5. Community & Audience Engagement

• Demographics of Show Listeners:
  • Discussion on over-indexing professions among listeners: spec ops/military, pilots, and truckers—a reflection on the show's wide, patriotic reach (42:08–44:04).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Greenland’s Current State:
  • "Denmark gives a billion dollars a year to support everyone who lives in Greenland because the economy is otherwise not able to suffice. Buck, a huge percentage of people in Greenland lack running water and actually shower by melting ice." — Clay Travis (05:24–06:00)
• Historic Comparison:
  • "When William Seward bought Alaska, everyone derided the purchase... it ended up being one of the most brilliant acquisitions in the history of the United States." — Clay Travis (06:40)
• Climate Hypocrisy:
  • "Kamala Harris just bought an $8 million house... she's clearly not scared of the erosion of the beaches or the cliffs." — Buck Sexton (08:40)
  • "Remember when Barack Obama, Mr. Climate Change... got a $15 million beachfront mansion in Martha's Vineyard. No one actually believes this." — Buck Sexton (09:13)
• Trump on Greenland:
  • "We need Greenland for national security... If we don't go in, Russia is going to go in and China is going to go in and there's not a thing that Denmark can do about it, but we can do everything about it." — Donald Trump (19:20)
• Narrative vs. Reality in Minneapolis:
  • "All of the evidence reflects that she... decided to floor her vehicle and hit the ICE agent..." — Clay Travis (25:59)
  • "This is the creation of their martyrdom myth... if it's just how do you feel about this?... that can often override... what’s true and not true." — Buck Sexton (26:47–27:00)
• On Elite Performance and Policy:
  • "Trump doesn't pretend to be something he's not. Kamal, the social justice warrior, she's just been enriching herself her whole life." — Buck Sexton (10:51)
• Show Culture:
  • "I'm in D.C. There's no cameras in here. I'm not as dapper today, but I was on Hannity last night, you could see the jacket. No tie." — Clay Travis (39:20)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Greenland’s Economy and U.S. Interests: 02:42–07:35
• Climate Change Hypocrisy & Kamala’s Malibu Mansion: 08:17–12:57
• Trump’s Statement on Greenland (Clip): 19:20–19:52
• U.S. Geopolitical Strategy in the Arctic: 20:56–23:10
• ICE Shooting, Media Narrative, and Martyrdom Myth: 25:17–32:56
• Show Listener Demographics: 42:08–44:04

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Tone & Style

The tone is fast-paced, irreverent, and insightful. Clay and Buck blend sharp analysis of news and geopolitics with banter and cultural commentary, often laced with sarcasm and pointed humor directed at political and media elites.

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Conclusion

This episode distills the unique style of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show: an engaging mix of global affairs, domestic controversies, and cultural critique. The hosts offer thoughtful commentary on America’s long-term strategic interests, elite hypocrisy, and the pitfalls of emotionalized news narratives—peppered with memorable asides and an ever-present sense of humor.

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Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in hour number three. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show Thursday edition of the program. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us in what continues to be a tumultuous, crazy time with tons of different stories that we are tracking on a minute by minute basis, frankly. Minneapolis, you heard us talk at the beginning of the show and quite a lot already in the first couple of hours about the disaster that is unspooling in Minneapolis in the wake of yet another shooting where an ice agent was attacked. I went on Sean Hannity show last night. Buck talked about it and we will continue. I am sure to update you on that story as we progress. We're also continuing to update you on Iran reports, as we talked about in the first couple of hours, that President Trump was poised to attack yesterday and at the last moment chose not to based on the fact that Iran made promises through third parties that they would not be conducting executions of protesters. We will see whether that tamps down the tempest in that relationship. Right now, price of oil and gas came down substantially as maybe there is hope that there is not going to be a tax coming there. As if that were not enough, ongoing discussions surrounding Greenland as we have talked about during the course of the show as well, Greenland representatives, Denmark representatives in the White House yesterday trying to persuade President Trump that he did not actually need to buy Greenland and that did not go well. And President Trump still wants to buy Greenland, as we were talking about earlier. Maybe we'll dive into this and have a little bit more fun with it. Do you know, Buck, what the number one part of the Greenland economy according to what I read in the Wall Street Journal this morning, is? So there are 57,000 people who live in Greenland. Obviously, there's lots of talk about the long term value of the minerals and all the different natural resources that could be associated with Greenland, its location near the Arctic Circle, the impact of that. Trump is worried about Russia or China ending up with Greenland and how that would impact the overall status of the United States. All those things are true. But right now, what is the number one part of the economy of Greenland? Based on what I read this morning in the Wall Street Journal, do you have any idea?

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, I know in Iceland it's the fishing industry. Yeah, I would, I would assume in Greenland that's a big thing. But also mining would be the next guess that I have.

[Clay Travis]

Mining is not very substantial so far, and this is very specific, according to the Wall Street Journal, it is shrimp. It is basically.

[Buck Sexton]

So I nailed it, actually out of the gate. Not bad. Not bad.

[Clay Travis]

Shrimp.

[Buck Sexton]

The.

[Clay Travis]

So we are talking about buying and. And the word is I was actually doing a little bit of Greenland research because I wanted to know more about it. That basically Denmark gives a billion dollars a year to support everyone who lives in Greenland because the economy is otherwise not able to suffice. Buck, a huge percentage of people in Greenland lack running water and actually shower by melting ice. So if you thought. I just. I read that this morning in the Wall Street Journal as I was getting ready for our show. If you're out there right now and you're like, man, things are really tough for me, I bet you're not showering with melted ice, which I would imagine is pretty cold and not an intentional ice bath, as it were. But I thought that was interesting about Greenland. Just kind of giving you an idea. President Trump's idea there is not based on what Greenland is now. It is, as many developers and real estate appraisers and purchasers always do, it's a projection of what the value of Greenland might be a generation from now. Two generations. Three generations. And remember, Buck, and you're a history nerd, too. When William Seward bought Alaska, everyone derided the purchase of Alaska as Seward's Folly in the immediate aftermath of the, of the Civil War. And it ended up being one of the most brilliant acquisitions in the history of the United States because Alaska has become such a beacon of natural resources and such an incredible value play over time. But in the short term, there have been lots of ridicule. Heck, even some people ridiculed Thomas Jefferson when he bought the Louisiana purchase back in 1803 from France. So long forward looking is the decision here as it pertains to Greenland. This is not a short term flip play as all the housing shows out there that everybody likes to watch. You know, I'm sure you've seen Buck where the guy's like a painter and the wife is like a daycare worker and their budgets like $800,000 for a house. And everybody's always like, how is that possible? This is not a fixer, upper flopper. This is a long term play.

[Buck Sexton]

Absolutely. And real estate in so many ways has been a good long term play. Donald Trump, more than almost anybody knows that. And I would say this clay, maybe things are going to get a little warmer in Greenland because the planet there has been some warming. Not that much. It's Climate change is not a catastrophe and all that stuff, but let's just say things got a little bit warmer over time. I think it'd be great. There's plenty of reason to believe it would be great. They don't really believe in climate change, though. They only believe in climate change when it benefits them. Which is my pivot point here to something that I insist we discuss for a moment. Yes, Kamala Harris. I know where you're going, Kamala Harris. I'm going from Greenland to Malibu, baby.

[Clay Travis]

I am.

[Buck Sexton]

I am hopping a jet taking us all over the world. This is the world tour with the Buckster. We're going from Greenland to Malibu. Really? I will say among the most beautiful places in America, full of people with the worst politics. But Malibu is really nice.

[Clay Travis]

Yes. The.

[Buck Sexton]

The sushi restaurant there, the Nobu. They're very, very spectacular. Right on the beach.

[Clay Travis]

Yep.

[Buck Sexton]

And here's what I'll say. Kamala Harris just bought an $8 million house with her lawyer husband there. And I would note a few things. First of all, she's clearly not scared of the erosion of the beaches or the cliffs. Okay.

[Clay Travis]

What a shock. You're suggesting that Kamala Harris is not actually worried at all about climate change because she, like all of the other super Hollywood celebs who claim to be worried about climate change, is actually buying a beachside home.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah. It's amazing how that works, isn't it?

[Buck Sexton]

Remember When Barack Obama, Mr. Climate Change is an existential threat to America? He was, he. That was the big phrase of the Obama years. There was. There was really an unholy and evil tripod of Obama ism, and it was health care, amnesty, you know, Obamacare, amnesty, climate change. Those were the three big things. There also was. Was like the George Floyd, not George Floyd, but the blm. You know, that stuff the first time around. But that wasn't so much policy as messaging or at least not. Not a big law thing that they tried to pass necessarily. Clay Obama got a. Probably it's like a $30 million now, but like a $15 million beachfront mansion in Martha's Vineyard. No one actually believes this. I know we've been talking for a while about climate change, has fallen out of the conversation. But this climate change, none of the people that are the biggest advocates believe this. They all want oceanfront property and they want it in California and Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard. Low lying. Martha's Vineyard is at sea level. They don't care. They don't believe in any of this stuff. And Kamala also such a phony. Oh, it's about rich people paying that. Rich people are so bad. Well, what contributions is Kamala made? You wrote a terrible book, which you.

[Clay Travis]

Made me read because you goaded me into it. You read it on your own? I.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Clay Travis]

107 days.

[Buck Sexton]

8 million died. Felt like 107 days to read it. $8 million house. And this in Malibu. I mean, the most. The most, you know, hoity toity, fancy pants place in America. Pretty much. And look, you might say, well, Trump lives at Mar a Lago.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Trump doesn't pretend to be something he's not. Kamal, the social justice warrior. She's just been enriching herself her whole life.

[Clay Travis]

I don't begrudge anybody who decides that they want to have a nicer home. I don't begrudge anybody who wants to live near the ocean or near the lake or near anywhere else. But when you have spent much of your career, this is a great point, telling us all that the world is going to end and that climate change, you know, we're all going to be undersea. And if you live in New York City or you live in Miami or you live in Los Angeles or wherever the heck it is on the coast, that at some point you're going to be inundated by rising waters, it is incredible. Several things. First of all, the prices of real estate on coastal communities continues to skyrocket everywhere in the entire United States. So even if you were, let's pretend that everybody else thought that climate change was real, you would see prices collapsing right on the waterfront. Instead, they are skyrocketing. Here's the other thing, Buck. Malibu. If you really thought that the world was going to come to an end because of climate change, right. That it was going to be uniquely destructive, Malibu might be the worst place in America to pay $8 million for a house because they have the wildfires. As you well know, much of Malibu got hit by the wildfires, which they tried to claim was based on climate change. But as we talked about when it happened a year ago, actually, because of American and human ingenuity, we. We have limited drastically the amount of wildfires that take place in California, which have been going on since basically time immemorial because of the actual unique geographic constraints of Malibu. But it's not even just the rising seas, Buck. It is that you would look around and you would say, boy, this is a really dangerous place based on wildfires caused by climate change, to buy an $8 million home. Instead, she did it. Instead she did it. And you know what she's going to be like? Bernie Sanders. Remember how Bernie was all anti homes? How many homes does Bernie have now? Like three?

[Buck Sexton]

At least three. Yeah, at least three.

[Clay Travis]

Social Sanders. Yes. Has at least three homes. Kamala now has an $8 million beachside manor for her and her lovable Dougie Imhoff, he of the likes to slap chicks standards that nobody talks about. Right. And so I hope the two of them live in wedded bliss. And maybe Buck, maybe this, this decision to pay $8 million for this home will even more make that steak, when I put it to my mouth even taste better when she runs for president in 2028. Cause she's got a paper.

[Buck Sexton]

I got a little out of my skis. It's a little aggressive. Look, she's going to get absolutely blown out and she's not going to be the nominee. But my, my, she's not even going to run call getting nervous. I'm not going to say that. Like, don't, don't buy any real estate on Buck Island 2.0 on this one, guys. I may be, I may be way off on this one.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in we are talking about a lot of things today. Ice in the context of Minnesota and the crazy people running around trying to stop law enforcement officers assaulting law enforcement officers to prevent them from doing their jobs. Also ice in the context of Greenland and how we want their ice and a lot more. A lot of things going on over there. See, Clay, I keep people on their toes.

[Clay Travis]

That's quite the transition there. I wasn't anticipating that transition, so I'm impressed.

[Buck Sexton]

That's what we call wordplay here on the Clay and Buck show. So I will say this much. Well, actually, let's hear what Trump says about the current state of Greenland. I keep, I think that his detractors, Clay and I think the Danes specifically keep thinking that he's just going to forget about this and they're starting to realize, no, he's really not going to just forget about this.

[Clay Travis]

Play.

[Buck Sexton]

Play Trump.

[Donald Trump]

Well, we're going to see what happens with Greenland. We need Greenland for national security. So we're going to see what happens. They're going to brief me on the meeting right after this conference. Take the sooner I get you out, the faster I'm going to know exactly what happened. But we have a very good relationship with Denmark, as you know. We'll see. But you know, we're doing the golden dome. We're doing a lot of things and we really need it. If we don't go in, Russia is going to go in and China is going to go in and there's not a thing that Denmark can do about it, but we can do everything about it.

[Buck Sexton]

That's a really important point that I don't think has gotten enough attention in this conversation around Greenland. And it reminds me a bit of one of the pitfalls you see, Clay, of the the more extreme or the monomaniacal, like non interventionist and also non US influence position is if only we left these places alone, they would exist in some kind of neutral harmony space where everything would be fine. No, actually our global competitors also have maps and resources and access and ways of currying influence and favor and forward deploying bases and you know, we all saw what happened in the Cuban missile crisis, right? Like we understand that geography matters a whole lot. And Russia, what we don't want is Russia and China establishing very deep relations in Greenland. And people say, oh, they won't do that. Look at what China's been doing all over the world and what Russia's been doing all over the world.

[Clay Travis]

World, yeah. And again, this is where I come back to. This is a long term play. If you actually believe that there's going to be more and more transit in the Arctic region, that is, in other words, it's going to be easier and easier. Like the boats have gotten far better. There is an ease of transport that didn't exist before. Frankly, the submarine technology has become so spectacularly well done. And some of you probably out there listening right now may have read about some of these things, like they have the ability to go traverse the Arctic Circle now completely underwater in ways that didn't necessarily exist as recently as a generation or two ago. And you assume that that's going to become even more paramount in nature. This is a decision that I think is smart by President Trump that isn't about the next three years of his term. It's about the next hundred years of American dominance in our sphere of influence, the Jean Roe Doctrine. I think that Greenland is directly connected to it.

[Buck Sexton]

And again, I understand people would say, well Buck, if it's a part of Denmark or it's got like Denmark administers it, but it has self rule, whatever the cute little thing is that they've arranged for themselves. Ok, let's just play a game for a second. Look what Russia has done in Georgia. Not the state, but the country. Look what Russia has done in Crimea and Ukraine and all these places. If Russia decided that they were going to establish a beachhead on Greenland and it's not US territory. If they just said, hey, we're set up here, we're setting up some kind of a, you know, observatory, a scientific, oh, we're going to go to war over that. You know, you start to see ways that they would, they would be able to do the same game they've done other places. They find an uninhabited part of this massive place because it's not hard to do and they start setting up there and they say, oh, we're just here for emergency purposes, no doubt, there's lots.

[Clay Travis]

And again, I think it also comes into being able to monitor what the nuclear subs are doing based on having a location that is reliable that, you know, is in transit and going to be reachable. Look, this Greenland mattered quite a lot back in World War II. I think Trump is afraid that we may be in that situation at some point in the future and may need that asset on a deeper level than we have it now.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. We, as always, are thankful for you for hanging out with us, encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. Also subscribe to us on YouTube. I checked the other day, 120,000 basically of you have now signed up for YouTube. There's going to be more and more video there going forward and I think you guys are going to be glad if you do sign up there. So we're thankful for that. Podcast numbers continue to roll in in a substantial number and as always, you can find us basically on any social media platform under the sun, both as a show at Clay and Buck and at Clay Travis at Buck Sexton. So if you want to find us there, you always can. Narrative so much of the discussion surrounding ICE is really based on what narrative is being shared. And I think it's important for you to be hearing what people on the left are saying in the wake of the shooting, the first shooting in Minneapolis that took over the news cycle last week. Here is what I believe it's Elana Omar is saying about the ICE related incidents and what the basis for them is.

[Ilhan Omar]

Listen, she had just dropped off her six year old son off at school and was serving as a legal observer when she was murdered by an ICE agent in South Minneapolis. ISIS Reckless actions have taken a mother from three children, a partner from a wife, and inflicted unfathomable pain on our community. In the face of state sanctioned violence, we have organized and protected each other. That is what Renee stood for. She died because she chose love and solidarity over fear. And we will make sure the world never forgets her name.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, this is just a lie, Buck. I mean, all of the evidence reflects that she dropped off her kid at school. Yes, that's fine. And then she went and decided with her partner that she was going to obstruct an ICE raid that was going on. She parked her car perpendicular on the road. She began to honk her horn. When she was asked to get out of her car so they could figure out what exactly her intent was, she decided to floor her vehicle and hit the ICE agent, who now, according to CBS News yesterday, as we told you, had internal injuries that he was treated for. He fired his weapon. He had already been struck, unfortunately, by a prior car. And so this is the narrative they are sharing, though I think it's important for you guys to hear it because there are a lot of people who believe this is a completely innocent person.

[Buck Sexton]

This is the creation of their martyrdom myth. And they need this right now because they have to, as I've said, Clay, they have to emotionalize this issue to draw people away from the facts, to draw people away from the reality of what went down here into making them feel a way about it. It's very hard to get people to change their feelings, you know, when, when, if someone is fact based, they have to respond to new facts or things presented as fact. But if it's just how do you feel about this? What emotional impulse does it give you? Then that can often override. And this is the whole point, this can override the part of your brain that makes determinations about what's true and not true. So this is also why, for example, with Mike Brown, hands up, don't shoot. That was just a lie. And it was very clear early on, actually that that was a lie. But by doing that and creating this story around it, really, like I said, a mythology of martyrdom, they were able to mobilize the Democrat base and make people feel like they had to be involved in this. They're doing the exact same thing here with ice. So even though the facts don't support this, they don't care. And this is also why they rush to present a certain narrative before all the facts are out, because they want to get people entrenched in a certain mindset about this, right? Because think about this. If you're. Who was it, like Mark Ruffalo or some of these actors that I've seen? Matt Damon. Matt Damon's a good actor, but, man, when it comes to politics, a just wrong all the time. I don't know. You know, look, but being a good actor, I mean, this is like. It's like a lot. It's like being a good musician. It's a skill, but it doesn't mean that you know anything else about anything. And one thing I'm actually very happy about, this is a bit of an aside I'm weaving, but one thing I'm happy about is that people. The notion that, like, an actor takes a position on something and everyone's like, oh, if Leonardo DiCaprio, you know, says so, truly the lowest IQ, like, the most easily misled and dumb people are.

[Clay Travis]

The only build on that. I think this is important because one of the legacies, I think, of the 2024 election, if you want a positive one, is I'm not sure anyone had ever had more celebrity endorsements than Kamala Harris. Maybe Barack Obama, 2008, 2012, but certainly Kamala had way more than Hillary or Joe Biden. Right? I think that's fair to say. And it had no impact and even less impact on young people. So if you're out there and you're worried, oh, my goodness, what in the world's going on? The fact that Kamala got smoked like she did, despite the fact that the Matt Damons of the world, the George Clooneys of the world, all of them lined up behind Kamala Harris and had virtually no impact. That is a, I think, small positive going forward for the lack of celebrity impact when comes to endorsements such as those.

[Buck Sexton]

It actually looked kind of pathetic when you had that.

[Clay Travis]

Remember the.

[Buck Sexton]

The famous Megan the Stallion performance in for. For Kamala and ever just watched this, like, what does this have to do.

[Clay Travis]

Remember when Beyonce wouldn't even perform and still got paid? Wasn't Beyonce getting paid a lot of money? Like, she showed up in Houston, if I remember correctly, and didn't even sing. People were like, what? What are you going to. Beyonce just shows up and doesn't even sing?

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, that's. That's pretty much. I think in some ways that's a microcosm of Kamala's whole campaign. Like, the things that you even expected to happen didn't happen. It was so bad. But you can go read 107 days like I did, and you'll just. You'll hate yourself for wasting so much of your time. Back to what these people are saying, though, about ice.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

Because Matt Damon was wearing the pin.

[Clay Travis]

Oh, yeah. You know, the.

[Buck Sexton]

Whatever it is now, the ICE pin thing. And you know, Bill Maher was at the, was at the Golden Globes and he was like, yeah. You know, look, he, he doesn't like what ICE is doing. Okay. Or how they're doing it, but he's like, I don't have to wear the pin. What is this? You're wearing a pin for the. Why is this. Is this woman of so much significance to you? Keep in mind the fact that she was killed. People are killed in this country every day, as I pointed out a few days ago, under far more egregious and heinous circumstances. In this case, it was unfortunately but legally justified use of force. And they put herself in about it all day.

[Clay Travis]

But it is that unfortunately led to her death. If she had just dropped her kids off and gone back home, this never would have in any way ever been an issue at all.

[Buck Sexton]

But I asked this question. Why are all these individuals who are so upset about what happened to this woman, Goode. What's her first name?

[Clay Travis]

Renee Goode.

[Buck Sexton]

Thank you, Renee Goode. Where are they? When Lake and Riley is raped and murdered by an illegal who was already in custody and should have never been in this country in the first place? That doesn't. Cause that's a government decision as well. This is the part they like to do this thing of. It only matters when, you know, if a black man is shot by a cop, that's a thousand times more significant than thousands of black people shooting other black people over the course of the country. Right. That was the whole BLM thing. It's. When it's a cop, it's so different. It's state violence, ok. The state made decisions about illegals in many cases. The state in fact made decisions to, in the case of something like a New York or a California, refused to work with ice, which led to someone being raped and murdered far worse than what we saw here in Minnesota on many, many levels. They're not wearing any pins. They're not angry at the government over that. Why is that? Why is it just the cost of doing business for illegals to rape and murder in this country and the government to be complicit in that when it is sanctuary policy, when it is a Democrat in charge. But then this happens in Minnesota and everyone at the Golden Globes is weeping about it. They explicitly choose. They know they're going to be these illegals handed from one custody chain to another. They make the choice because the person's in illegal. I don't want to help because the mayor and the police commissioner of whatever the city is, Minneapolis, New York there it's not oh maybe this person's going to be out and free. They're making them free on the street and then something terrible happens. You know what I'm saying? It's not like a byproduct. They're saying oh no, we would rather unleash this rapist on the public because they're an illegal. We don't want them to face deportation.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, no, I mean look, you had the shooting in 2017 I believe of the 40 year old Australian woman by a Somali police officer which by and large nobody talked about and that directly related to the George Floyd related incident. But you also had Buck to your point, the Lake and Riley's of the world they are and even the judge in Milwaukee, the judge that helped the the the would be the person actually in her courtroom try and escape from ice. Remember when that was a huge story, oh my goodness, the Trump administration is arresting judges now. She got convicted because as a judge she felt like she was so compelled to violate even her judicial code to try to keep someone who is illegal here. And I think a lot of you ask the question that I think is a very valid one. How in the world the sanctuary cities exist at all. There should not be a proposition by which any part of the United States can defy the will of the federal government. Government. And so this is why I think ultimately Trump is going to have to make an example of Minneapolis because of all the places out there in the country right now that have spiraled out of control, Minneapolis is at the absolute apex of insanity. We'll talk about that when we come back here in a moment. Continue to break that down. React to some of your reactions to the course of the program so far. Much less serious. This weekend, in fact Monday Buck and I are going to be at the Miami and Indiana national title game in Miami. It's going to be super awesome. We're going to be there with prize picks and also you have got big games going on two on Saturday, two on Sunday in the NFL. And I've got a winning pick for you. Buck, get your pen. Break it out here. Brock Purdy, Josh Allen, Bo Nix, Drake May all of them to throw more on their touchdowns than is is that then then projected for price picks more. All you have to do is find these guys touchdown passes Brock Purdy, Josh Allen, Bo Nix, Drake May More. You can play in all 50 states. You get $50 California, Texas, Georgia $50 deposited in your account when you play just $5 you can play along with me. That pays out at 2 to 1 if you're going to be watching the NFL this weekend, as the vast majority of you will at some point in time. Brock Purdy, Josh Allen, Bo Nix, Drake may more all four of those two to one $50 deposited into your account. My name C l a y that is c l a y go to prizepix.com c l a y for 50 bucks deposited into your account when you play $5. Do it today.

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[Buck Sexton]

All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We're closing up the show today. Want to remind you to please go subscribe to our YouTube channel, which is growing and growing all the time now. And it is growing without us talking about space aliens and. And MK travel and time travel and all kinds of really interesting stuff out there. So I've just. I mean, that's. If you. If you're into that other stuff, that's fine. I'm just saying we're. We're growing all the time on YouTube. We already have the biggest radio show, but we're growing all the time on YouTube thanks to many of you. And we want to make sure that we're reaching the youth as well. I don't want the youth to only be exposed to more fringe thoughts from the right. I think that would be a way of, you know, I think having some ideas that are grounded and rooted in. In reality, sound analysis and. And correct thinking and principle is also a good thing. I like the spice out there. There's a lot of spice going on. But I also think that. That you shouldn't always just live in crazy town. So we're growing the YouTube, which is nice. We got that going for us, and I'm excited about that. You should go check it out. And today you would see that after yesterday's really dapper Clay and the grandmas of the Midwest were writing in our VIP inbox full. A lot of complaints that you weren't on video Yesterday.

[Clay Travis]

I'm in D.C. there's no cameras in here. I'm not as dapper today, but I was on Hannity last night. You could see the jacket. No tie. Not as.

[Buck Sexton]

I'm gonna tell you guys something. Clay showed up today looking like Al Bundy, all right? He's got, like, an oversized T shirt, like a workman shirt on top of it. He's like, hey, hey, Peg, bring me a beer.

[Clay Travis]

It's true. I'm ready for the weekend already in this outfit. I'm definitely gonna be kicking the feet up watching. Watching games tonight with. With this look. And I'm gonna get on the airplane here in a little bit. I'll be flying back home. So I'm looking Forward to getting back home. But I don't think that Sean Duffy, our transportation secretary, would be happy with necessarily the attire that I have chosen to wear on this airplane flight. You know, he's been talking about people behave better when they dress better. I think there's probably some truth to that.

[Buck Sexton]

And I wear sweats on the airplane, and I am super polite.

[Clay Travis]

You don't know when you're gonna get stuck at the airport. I mean, let's be honest. In this day and age, there's nothing worse than just being, like, uncomfortable. I think when you're sl. You know, like, stuck in an airport terminal, you don't know when you're gonna take off. I like to just be in cool, nice, relaxed clothes instead of dressing up and, you know, being on a fashion shoot.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah. I'm trying to think what is more annoying. People on the plane who push their seat back like they own the plane for a short domestic flight, or people in the gym who, like, I'm super setting. And it's like, so. So that means five machines. So you get to just have five machines to yourself, you lunatic. Not that. Not that. That's something that happens here in Miami. Happens, unfortunately, far too frequently. Very bad gym manners in Miami. I will tell you, by and large. I don't know what it is here. I say New Yorkers, better gym manners. Not even close. Miami, a lot. A lot of. A lot of goonish behavior in the gyms here.

[Clay Travis]

I think it's probably partly based on the fact that girls work out in their underwear in Miami, which is still, like, true. It's unbelievable. I will say this on a positive note. With the airports almost every time now, so I take Southwest airlines flights a lot. It's easy to get in and out of Nashville on Southwest Airlines. On my flight up to D.C. buck, our pilot, was a. Was a fan almost every Southwest flight I take, and they're not paying me anything. Although they should be. The official airline, probably a Clay and Buck, given how often I fly them. At least they. Almost every flight I take. Now, flight attendant or one of the captains is a fan. Now, partly, I sit up in the front of the airplane so I can get on and off as fast as I can. There is no first class in Southwest. Every seat's basically the same. So I'm closer to a lot of the flight attendants and the pilots. So I am always impressed with how many people. On a positive note, I have an important question of our show, and I.

[Buck Sexton]

Have an important question, and I don't know how we could how we could really get data on this. What professions do you think over index the most for Clay and buck listeners? As in if we had to pick the three professions where we have the most high like per capita listenership in.

[Clay Travis]

That profession, what do you think they would be advanced? So in no particular order, I would say Navy SEALs like Delta Force. It's off the charts. The number of spec ops guys.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes, we have a lot of special operations.

[Clay Travis]

Tons of those guys. Listen to the show. I would say I think, I think there's a ton of pilots. I don't know what the percent. I don't know how pilots tend to vote. I've never really thought about it before. I think pilots tend to be Republicans in general be my guess. Certainly a lot of them come out of the military. I think we way over index airline industry and then truckers would be my 3. If I had to guess, Ali producer.

[Buck Sexton]

Ali threw out for us military, law enforcement and truckers. I think that's probably the triumvirate I think like of over indexing. I mean I know, I know surgeons who listen to the show. I know CEOs listen to the show. I know guys who fix antique furniture for a living who listen to the show and craftsmen. But I think those are probably the big three. But I think pilots will probably get an honorable mention. Not just because my father in law is one but you know, I think that a lot of pilots are our people.

[Clay Travis]

I think 100%. I mean a lot of pilots obviously come out of the military and so. But I think there's an element of personal responsibility which makes sense, right? If you wanted somebody to be in charge and you want them to have super personal responsibility. Of all the professions out there, I would say airline pilot is maybe the one where you would want guys to and every individual involved on a plane to take the most concern about their own personal work ethic and everything else. I want somebody who's really, really good and committed to their job, who's got me when I'm flying on an airline.

[Buck Sexton]

Totally agree with that. All right everybody, more tomorrow. We'll have a great Friday show. Hey, light us up with a lot of talk backs, VIP emails and get ready with your calls and we'll speak to you then. Sometimes we all need to slow down and reconnect with what matters most. Life can feel overwhelming, but encouragement and guidance are closer than you think. @intouch.org you'll find biblical teaching, daily devotionals and timeless sermons from Dr. Charles Stanley. These resources are designed to strengthen your faith renew your hope and give you confidence for life. If you're seeking peace, strength, or simply a reminder of God's presence, visit intouch.org today. You'll be glad you did.

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