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Buck Sexton
Welcome in our number three Monday edition, Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We hope all of you are having a good start to your fourth of July week. If the traffic is any indication, a lot of you are on vacation right now, celebrating the fourth of July on the road. As we talked about earlier, if you are driving as I was this weekend, you are fortunate to have the lowest gas prices in four years, the lowest since the summer of 2021. And that is because gas prices overall are continuing to lower. In fact, prices in general begun a significant decline since Donald Trump came into office when it comes to gas, when it comes to eggs, when it comes to. To general cost of goods. So there is much to be excited about. We've got several different stories that I thought we could have some fun with. Right now, I can barely even open my phone because I wasn't even planning to give out my top five cities until you blew my mind, Buck, by saying New York City is still the number one city in America.
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Karen Kilgariff
Injured reserve. Injured reserve coming back.
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Buck Sexton
It's got us torn ACL right now, and it's in the rehab process. But unfortunately, if they go, mom, dummy, it might turn into a torn acl. They might have to look at amputation because this is not going well. Maybe a torn Achilles tendon, too. But a bunch of different stories that are out there that I think are worth diving into. We talked about the big beautiful bill. We talked to Senator Ron Johnson about that in hour one. Encourage you to go download the podcast. Make sure you don't miss it. And you can go back and listen to the first hour. But there are several stories that I want to get into here. Um, but let's start with this. Cause we were just talking about New York City, and I do think this factors in, uh, there's just so much lying. Um, AOC in particular has been claiming that she is from the Bronx. She is. Oh, you know, she's got a district that partly encompasses the the Bronx. And she tries to talk. She's been fighting with Donald Trump online and she bragged about being a girl from the Bronx. Was it? What is it? I'm still Jenny from the block. Was it?
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Karen Kilgariff
Where?
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Buck Sexton
Where was Jenny. Jennifer Lopez from?
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Karen Kilgariff
Jenny from. From the block in the Bronx. Yes, indeed.
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Buck Sexton
So AOC is trying to lean into, hey, I'm just a girl from the block. I'm a kid from the Bronx. May who grew up and made good. The problem is, as soon as she started making this argument, a bunch of her former classmates in high school spoke out, including sharing yearbook photos. And it turns out, and Buck, you can speak to this Better because you grew up in New York City. But I can speak to it a little bit. I went to school on the east coast in Washington D.C. at GW and there were tons of kids from Long Island. And this is not going to shock any of you. I had never even heard of Long island when I went away to college. I didn't know it. I knew Manhattan existed.
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Karen Kilgariff
GW is basically a satellite campus of Long Island.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. Everyone at GW and the time that I was there, every girl that I met was from a different town in Long Island. There were basically three places that everybody who went to GW was from that I had no idea really even existed. The mainline area of Philadelphia, where all the rich kids in Philadelphia grow up. Long island, which is evidently a really populated place that I had no idea existed. When I remember I'm a kid from Nashville, I didn't Long Island. Why would I know Long island existed? And Westchester. So Westchester is like Scarsdale, New York. Everyone is from Westchester, Long Island. And like rich areas of Philadelphia that went to GW 20 years ago, I think they've expanded now and they have rich kids from LA and rich kids from Chicago. And I think GW is like the most expensive school in the country. I was a scholarship kid and I. A lot of these areas I had no idea existed. So my point on this is it turns out that AOC grew up in actually a pretty nice neighborhood in Westchester County. This is where the Clintons live in Chappaqua, right? Am I. No, it's Chappaqua. Yes, Chappaqua, New York. Okay, I said that right again. And. And Scarsdale and all these areas. Buck, you can speak to this. The difference between growing up in the Bronx and growing up in Westchester is pretty seismic. She's lying about her background to try and seem like she is more of a working class, even poor kid growing up than she actually was. But I think for people who don't know the geography, this hasn't necessarily cut through until now when she went after Trump bragging about being from the Bronx.
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Karen Kilgariff
Well, this is, this is where you get into a little bit of New York City lore and geography. The Bronx is, is one of our esteemed New York City boroughs, one of the five. And it has some areas that are rough, particularly the South Bronx area around Yankee Stadium, roughly speaking, has been very high crime for a very long time. But there are parts of the Bronx that are actually very high income and quite safe, like Riverdale. Riverdale, where the Riverdale school is, is also technically in the Bronx. So even The Bronx is not, ooh, I'm from like these hard streets or something. But to be from Westchester is not even in the. In the sort of general milieu of what she's suggesting by the Bronx. Westchester is overwhelmingly a upper, you know, upper middle income to very, very high income suburb of New York City. We have a lot of Westchester listeners. By totally commuter, I mean, it's a.
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Buck Sexton
It'S a beautiful county, but it's where I'm throwing shade. Yeah, it's where you move if oftentimes you have kids and you don't want to live in a crowded apartment and you want to have kids that can go to good school districts and you don't want to live in New York City.
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Karen Kilgariff
To give you a sense of it, she is further from the city than Sleepy Hollow. Like the legend of Sleepy Hollow, as in headless Horseman countryside or whatever. She's north of Sleepy Hollow up in Westchester. So she is not really in the. The whole I'm from the Bronx thing is, is a fabrication, is. Is a falsehood, is silly.
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Buck Sexton
And, and so I think again, it goes to the degree to which lies will be told now. And, and it's actually, I think registering in some way with aoc and this sometimes gets ex. Exploded as a story. Remember the crazy dude who lost, who pulled the fire alarm? He was in a district that also ran partly into Westchester and he ended up getting beat. What's that guy's name? Not Jerome Powell. Who's the. Jamal Bowman.
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Karen Kilgariff
Jamal Bowman, yes.
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Buck Sexton
Jamal Bowman ends up losing. And it's that disconnect between a somewhat wealthier and. And highly educated group compared to where they try to argue that their bases. So anyway, I just think that's interesting. Here's another story that is out there that is, I think, something that you and I agree on, but I haven't heard hardly anybody else say it. The jury has now got the Puff Daddy, the Diddy case for all of the allegations that were brought against him. Multi week case. The jury is now deliberating. Eight men, four women. I think, Buck, that. That there's not going to be a conviction here. And you agree with me. I've been following this case pretty closely. I think the government failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt their case. Not that Diddy's a great guy or that I would want him dating my sister or my daughter or something like that, but I don't think they proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he is guilty of the very serious charges that they brought against him. This thing has gone to the jury. Maybe we're going to be wrong, but I do think that there would be a lot of shock if he's not convicted. I'm just telling you guys and gals out there who may not have paid as much attention to it, it would not surprise me at all if they failed to get a conviction.
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Karen Kilgariff
They. They. They went for things that. I think reasonable doubt is going to be too easy for some of the jurors to. To lean on. I don't think that the sex trafficking charge is going to be something they're able to get him on. And so this is. No, look, the guy is a bad guy, and there's no question about this. There's no defense of Diddy, the person going on here, or of Sean Combs, the person. It's just. It seems to me like the pro. Maybe we're wrong. I. I shouldn't. Maybe the prosecution nailed him and he's going away for a very long time. But I. I would. I would not bet on it based on this. And I just. I. I'm not even. I mean, you went to law school. I'm not even a lawyer. I didn't go to law school. But I have been around cases and charges and things like that because of the time at the nypd. And I look at this one, I'm like, this is not a strong. This was not a strong prosecutorial move. I think I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong, I'll come back. Maybe the jury just hates him. It might just be. What was his name? You know, professor emeritus from Harvard. You know, came on our show.
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Buck Sexton
Dershowitz.
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Karen Kilgariff
Dershowitz. Thank you. Maybe the Dersh is right when he says, look, he's just such a scumbag. They're gonna pro. They're gonna find him guilty, and that'll be overturned on appeal by, you know, by an appeals court. That may be the way this goes, too. But nothing about this, to me says slam dunk, because they've got all the text messages and all this stuff from women who continue to be with him and say they're being coerced, but they're traveling with him on private jets and still being, you know, intimate with him and everything else that. That is. That's a tough one to make stick for, for a juror. Remember, he could go away for life on this. You know, it's not like a civil case or something where he's just paying a big judgment. He could go away for the rest of his life.
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Buck Sexton
Well, they had him dead to rights on Drug and gun charges, which is why I'm surprised they didn't just go.
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Karen Kilgariff
Straight in as the rico.
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Buck Sexton
I don' understand why they did that to me. They had him dead to rights on drug and gun charges. I think they probably wanted to put him away for longer than those charges would have reflected. But ultimately this case comes down to coercion versus consensual adult sexual conduct. Essentially. I'm trying to boil it down and I just don't think there are eight men sitting on this jury that are going to say, yeah, these women either dated him or lived with him for a decade or more. And now they're saying, oh, I'm a victim. I, again, I'm not saying he's not a, that he's a good dude or that he's 100% innocent, but I don't think he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Karen Kilgariff
Based on all the evidence to the everyman. And that's what a jury is, right? It's not to the everyman. You know what racketeering is? A bunch of organized crime thugs saying, you're paying the protection money or I'm going to break your, Break your kneecaps. Right? That's racketeering. Like that people can understand you're running this organized criminal enterprise with the threat of violence racket. Did they charge Sean Combs with racketeering?
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Buck Sexton
It's weird, I know.
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Karen Kilgariff
And you sit here, you go, why go for the racketeering charge?
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Buck Sexton
I think they whiffed.
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Clay Travis
Because people hear.
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Karen Kilgariff
That, they go, hold on a second. So he's like the mob guys who are threatening to break kneecaps, but he's inviting people to parties and being a sexual deviant, but they're willingly doing it and he's not putting a gun to their head, you know, and making them do it. How is that racketeering?
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Buck Sexton
Basically, he's a super rich guy who engaged, to your point, on, you know, indefensible behavior in many ways.
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Karen Kilgariff
I mean, he hit a woman crime. But the statute, the statute passed on that. So there, you know, the, the, the video violence of him in the, in the hotel where he punched or he shoved, you know, he beat the crap.
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Buck Sexton
Out of Cassie on a video at the Intercontinental Hotel in la.
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Karen Kilgariff
I mean, that's, that's a, that's a crime and that's assault and he's a bad person for doing it. But they didn't charge. You know, we're looking at the legal system versus what's justice here, right? And the legal system isn't going after him on that? I don't know. We'll see. I, you know what? I hope I'm wrong. I hope we're wrong because you and I see this one the same way. It's more fun when we can argue. I don't, I don't see this one differently than you. So we'll see. I hope we're wrong and that they, they nail him. Even though part of me is like, if they're nailing him, I think, I think they're doing it because he's a bad guy, not because they actually believe he violated the statutes as presented.
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Buck Sexton
Which, if I were on, if I were on the jury, I would vote not guilty because I don't think they. Now, I don't know that you're going to be able to get 12 people to vote not guilty. I think it's more likely that there are a couple of holdout. I don't think 12 people are going to say not guilty. That's how I would vote. And a lot of times the pressure people are, you know, they do the jury poll and it's 9, 3 guilty and or 10, 1, or 10, 2, or 11, 1. And you're sitting there in the pressure. They're like, dude, let's go. It's July 4th. We want to all be out. We want to go hang out with our families, we want to go to the barbecues. Everything else, let's get done with this. So I'm not sure that guys are going to continue to hold out. I think it's primarily going to be guys because there are eight of them. Um, I just don't think eight guys are gonna agree that this is a, that this is crime. This is crime. We'll talk about this some more. I also wanna get into Mayor Pete. 0% support from black men. What's going on there? I got a pretty significant theory. Uh, in the meantime, we're faced with decisions every day. Some of them big, some of them small. Choosing a health insurance provider, that's a big one. Something as important as your healthcare insurance, you have a big say. Why settle for a government plan like Obamacare when there's a better options called Ease for Everyone. Offers affordable health care for as low as 262 bucks a month. You can keep your doctor, never pay a deductible. Access over 400 prescription drugs for free. Go online to their website, see what the plan is right now for you and your family. Ease for everyone. Developed by forward thinking experts. Located in Nashville, Tennessee, my number one city in America, by the way. They identified a problem in the industry, set out to solve it with Ease for Everyone. Go online right now to ease for everyone.com Clay Join today. That's ease for everyone.com Clay.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Colby Ekowitz
Karen and Georgia from My favorite Murder. Thanks to Hyundai, we got to take a post show drive in the Ionic five.
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Christina Quinn
We had snacks, laughs, and we even recorded a special episode featuring some unforgettable car themed stories.
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Colby Ekowitz
Take a listen. The Montgomery Bus Boycott success was dependent on the action and dedication of many individuals. Of course, today we're going to focus on the work of one of those people in particular. A woman in her 30s. And yes, I love her name. It's Georgia Gilmore.
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Karen Kilgariff
We got a call coming in from Janice in Oklahoma City. Janice, congratulations to your Thunder for their big win over the Pacers in the NBA Finals. What's going on? Well, there is only one first NBA championship, no matter what the team's name is. And our team is a young team and we. We brought the Seattle Sonics down from Seattle and then only took 17 years.
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Buck Sexton
To make it happen, but we made it happen.
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Karen Kilgariff
All right.
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Buck Sexton
So you're fired up about my rankings?
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Karen Kilgariff
No. Well, two things. I mean you. Oklahoma is a solid red state. Yes, Oklahoma City's done a lot of improvements. We've also got great places to eat. The owner of the Thunder is also the CEO of Sonic. Drive in if you want a hot dog. And I just can't pass that coming back. How's crime in downtown Oklahoma? I have no idea. By the way, I'm asking with no, I don't know what your answer is going to be. I'm just curious, is Oklahoma City pretty safe?
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Buck Sexton
Yes, very safe.
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Karen Kilgariff
Nice. That's good.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, I appreciate the call. Congratulations on the NBA title, Oklahoma City. I modified my rankings because it is a bit confusing. I said you have to have two major pro sports franchises because there are a lot of cities now, you know, you could go to several cities in North Carolina, you could go to, you could go to Jacksonville, you could go. There are a lot, Oklahoma City, Memphis, which is not unfortunately going to be anywhere near my top five. But there are a lot of cities with one pro sports franchise. And so I have broadened it like Green Bay, Wisconsin would theoretically be in the running because the Green Bay area has the Packers. So I said two. You have two pro sports franchises and that limits it probably. I don't know what to 35 big cities because there are lots of what I would say is middle tier cities that are, that are in that roster. My top five, Nashville, Phoenix, Miami, Salt Lake City, Houston, slash, Dallas, tie. I said you have to have at least a red state vote for President Trump.
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Karen Kilgariff
It's very specific ranking you're getting into yourself.
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Buck Sexton
Well, because otherwise you dove into Charleston, Charleston's great city, no pro sports franchise. So I'm trying to limit it from 100 cities or 200 cities to like 35 big cities. And in the meantime, I'm going to tell you, maybe you need some energy. Maybe you're looking around, you're like, it's Monday. I got to make it to the 4th of July this weekend. Do you know how late I'm going to have to stay up? My wife's complaining. I got dinner tonight, 7:30, we got dinner tomorrow, 8:15. She was like, what am I, 20 years old? I said, you need to get a little bit of sleep. Maybe you need to take a nap because it's a little bit later. I understand. We got dinners and maybe you need a little bit of chalk. And maybe you're out there right now and you're saying, oh my God, I'm going to chase this, the grandkids, I'm going to chase the kids. They're going to have like a bike decoration contest. At 7:30 in the morning, there's going to be people out with leaf blowers all over the place. Maybe you need a little bit of energy. Because I'm going to get woken up early because of the bike decorating contest on the fourth and the leaf blowers that everywhere I am, they turn them on at 6am Go get hooked up with our guy Seaton at chalk right now. Chalk.comchoq.com is the website. Chalk.com. get energy in your life like Trump, not like Biden with chalk. Best deal. My name clay.chalk.com. buck. I saw over the weekend, as you look ahead to 2028, the data on who people would support, and I just feel like I should make a public announcement here. Mayor Pete was the leader. Okay. I just came back from Traverse City, Michigan. I think Mayor Pete has moved to Traverse City. Had a good choice there. I saw that people are saying, oh, look, he started following the ufc. Our buddy Jesse Kelly had a tweet about that. Here's the deal. Mayor Pete is the leading Democrat, projected favorite in 2028. Right now, he gets zero percent of the black vote. Zero percent. I feel like we need to make a PSA to Mayor Pete. Maybe in 20 years, you can be the Democrat nominee. Black dudes are not voting for a white guy who is gay. You have a zero percent chance of actually being the nominee. Remember when nobody would talk about this? He was having a great campaign. He did well in Iowa. He did well in New Hampshire. White Democrats love Mayor Pete. The fact that he's gay might even help him. Black people, black men in particular, they're not voting for a gay white dude. He cannot. We went to South Carolina. His entire campaign collapsed. He went across the South. All the black people in the south voting in the Democrat primary. A gay white dude. I don't think a gay black dude would do well. I don't think a gay Hispanic guy would do well. I don't think gay people are going to be supported by most black voters. But a gay white dude is definitely not. So what does Mayor Pete do? He's got all these aspirations to be the next President of the United States. And nobody else will even address this on the left because that would require you to acknowledge that the most prominent bits of homophobia are actually from black voters in the Democrat Party. And nobody will even address it because that requires them to honestly assess what's going on here. Should we just tell Mayor Pete he has no chance of being president? Maybe he could be vice president, but he's not gonna get. He's not gonna win Democrat primary because the black base will not vote for a white dude who is gay. I don't think they would vote for a gay guy, period. But I do think that this is a funny thing to get. 0.0percent of the black vote is really, really funny to me. And. And yet he was still the leader.
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Karen Kilgariff
Although there also won't be any effort to Push on this, push back on this from the Democrat powers that be. I mean, they're not going to say, they're not going to try to strong arm, if you will, the members of the black community into voting for Mayor Pete. You know, you're not going to see, you're not going to see pushy lectures on MSNBC about this, which I think is also interesting. So just, just put that, put that aside for a moment. Notice how quickly the whole Kamala situation has faded too as a possibility for the Democrats going forward. As I've said all along, she's going to be a provost at a second tier UC school. Just give it time. She cannot win. They know she cannot win. She's a horrible politician. And that will become more apparent as time passes. I think that that's why the Mamdani situation, Clay, is interesting because it's an indicator of Democrat base sentiment right now, which is very strongly with AOC and Bernie Sanders. You do not see anybody who is a more centrist Democrat catching fire again with the Democrat base. I'm not talking about how they would even do nationally, but you have to win a primary before you'd get further. And you also want to know who the biggest voices are in the Democrat Party going into the midterms and their leftists and the ones that still get attention are Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, aoc, what Centrist Democrat. And I say centrist in quotes but you know, more mainstream Democrat is getting, and that's not even the right way to say it. I'm not even sure, you know, purple state Democrat, maybe you could say, you know, somebody who operates, someone like a Gretchen Whitmer who operates as a, as a governor in a purple state. They don't get any attention right now. The base is not excited about them and I think that that's likely to, likely to continue. So yeah, Mayor Pete is not going to become President of the United States. It's to me what the data shows you is that there is the fact that he is the leader of the Democrat Party in terms of choice right now for nominee is actually just proof positive that there is no leader of the Democrat Party for the nomination right now. It's totally an open field.
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Buck Sexton
Also, has there ever been a leader of a party that has done less in his life than Mayor Pete? I mean he was the mayor of South Bend in Indiana. He was a disaster of a transportation secretary. I'm not sure that we've ever had a less accomplished person than Mayor Pete as, I mean he's still only like 42 or 43 years old. I think he's a young guy, but, yeah, he has zero chance of actually being the nominee. You mentioned Gretchen Whitmer. I'm actually reading the Original Sin book. I know, I know, I know, Clay. I am reading the Original sin book. I did find this interesting. The book, they say that Kamala, you know, the public reporting was that it was that Biden decided he was going to pick a black woman. And so there was a lot of discussion about who the black woman he would pick would be. They actually say in the book that Gretchen Whitmer was the runner up for Joe Biden in the 2020 decision making. If he had picked her, she would have run as a much better contender. When they had to bump up the VP that would. Kamala did right.
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Karen Kilgariff
Huge mistake.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, she would have won Michigan, unfortunately, because I think she's been a bad governor, but she is very popular there.
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Karen Kilgariff
And look at. And Wisconsin. So go with Michigan, probably. So go. So go with Wisconsin. I think so. It would have been very tough. Would have been very tough if she had been. Kamala was. It would be hard to find a worse choice than Kamala Harris, given the way that it all played out with Joe Biden. That's what I mean. It really was. What did she bring to the table? I mean, California party machine politicians.
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Buck Sexton
I know a lot of all she brought was black women, which theoretically, we're going to vote Biden anyway. But that's the calculus. I mean, it was the ultimate identity politics calculus. The same reason, sadly, Ketanji Brown Jackson is on the supreme court. They eliminated 97% of all lawyers, basically. I think black women are 3% of the overall 3 or 4% of the overall legal profession, and they picked her. And so she is nowhere near the most qualified Supreme Court justice. I think, similarly, Kamala was nowhere near the best choice that Joe Biden could have made. Even when he said, I'm going to pick a woman, which I think was a. Was a poor choice to say, like, hey, I'm eliminating half of all the contenders. Because whenever you give the criteria, you delegitimize whoever you pick. Because you're not saying I'm picking the best person, you're saying I'm picking the best woman or I'm picking the best black woman, you're automatically making it clear that they're not the best contender by delegitimizing them publicly in playing that identity politics game. But I think Gretchen Whitmer, if you go back in time, if Biden makes that pick. Then when he steps down, she's a far better candidate than Kamala would have been.
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Karen Kilgariff
Well, I do like that. And this, I'm sure, comes across in the book that you're reading as unfortunate it is that you are helping to pay the tapper Industrial. Industrial propaganda complex. But that's fine. That's fine. I'm glad one of us is reading it. At least one of us can reference it from having actually read it. I'm sure this comes across. There's an assumption, I think, that a lot of people have, that the other side, meaning the Democrats, are. They're always a step ahead and they're so smart and they're so crafty. Joe Biden was a dementia patient and he was dumb before he had dementia, and he's making a lot of these decisions. Sometimes they just make dumb moves.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Karen Kilgariff
And with Joe Biden, they made a lot of dumb moves. And Biden himself, I should say, made a lot of dumb moves. There were things that he did that were not. It was not for d chess. It was a blunder, and they paid the price for it in this last election in a big way, as they should have.
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Buck Sexton
Totally. And, and I do think it's interesting because I. Gretchen Whitmer is going to think of herself as a contender in 28. Wes Moore is going to think of himself as a contender in 28. A lot of these governors, Josh Shapiro, are going to try to stay away from the Washington mess and, and run as outsiders in 2028.
- [35:09]
Karen Kilgariff
And meanwhile, Trump's walking around right now. This is cut to saying, it's only taking me six, six months, but I'm turning things around and kicking ass and taking names. Play 2.
- [35:19]
Clay Travis
Have you been able to digest what.
- [35:21]
Karen Kilgariff
Has occurred in the last seven days? Not really. It was pretty wild period of time. And I really think in six months, we've taken the country and turned it around. It's. I was told by the king of Saudi Arabia, by the leader of Qatar and The leader of UAE, when we went over there, we brought back $5.1 trillion investment into the United States. They said, you know, you're presiding now over the hottest country in the world. And a year ago, we thought your country was dead. It could never come back. It was so incompetently run by a very bad president. And I said, you're right, this country is hot. This country's hot, Clay. It's doing great. It's very exciting, no doubt.
- [36:04]
Buck Sexton
And I think that's one reason why everybody should be excited as we get ready for this celebration of July 4th everything. Even if you're a crazy left wing Democrat, Trump's making decisions that are actually benefiting you in terms of the direction of the nation.
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Karen Kilgariff
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Colby Ekowitz
Edu hey, it's Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder. Thanks to Hyundai, we got to take a post show drive in the Ionic five.
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Christina Quinn
We had snacks, laughs and we even recorded a special episode featuring some unforgettable car themed stories.
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Colby Ekowitz
Take a listen. The Montgomery Bus Boycott Success was dependent on the action and dedication of many individuals, of course. But today we're going to focus on the work of one of those people in particular. A woman in her 30s. And yes, I love her name. It's Georgia Gilmore.
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Christina Quinn
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Colby Ekowitz
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Christina Quinn
Right? This episode is brought to you by the 2025 Hyundai Ioniq 5.
- [41:41]
Karen Kilgariff
All right, we're closing up shop here on Clay and Buck. And as if we didn't need enough controversy here from Clay with his top five list, which was. Which was largely attuned to our. Some of our largest markets, where we are the number one radio show for three hours each day. So I do like that aspect of it. But some of you, very fired up about Mr. Clay's list. I will say that our friend Will Kane had me on his show on Friday. Clay, I know you go on there all the time. It's a lot of fun to do Will show. But the question was, best movie of the 21st century or we should make.
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Buck Sexton
This tomorrow before we get out the 21st century.
- [42:15]
Karen Kilgariff
Why don't we kick that to tomorrow? Because I got. I got weighing in from all of our team in New York. I want to hear your.
- [42:22]
Buck Sexton
I'm sure these movies, right.
- [42:25]
Karen Kilgariff
The New York Times ranked them right. And this is. And I want to poke some people on this because I think that you fall. I haven't even looked to big movie propaganda. So, Clay, think about the best in your mind, the best movie of the 21st century. By the way, 2000 doesn't count. That's still. That's still 20th century. So Gladiator is out.
- [42:43]
Buck Sexton
So here's the other question. We're talking about this tomorrow. What do you mean by best? Is it one that, you know, greatest.
- [42:51]
Karen Kilgariff
Is actually the designation. And see, I took it as the movie that. That you love the most, that means the most to you. If you're just reviewing it as a. Like, what is the most perfect film?
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Buck Sexton
Like a work of art or something that you could watch.
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Karen Kilgariff
No, multiple. I go the sec. I go the second one for this exercise, meaning the one that you. If it's on, you're watching it, you love it, you'll watch it anytime it's on, you think it's fantastic. So that's the stat.
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Buck Sexton
I agree with that categorization. We'll get into that tomorrow.
- [43:19]
Karen Kilgariff
Yeah. Otherwise, I'm like, oh, the pianists, the lives of others. Like, these are amazing films, but, you know, you're not going to watch them 100 times. Some of these movies I watch 100 times. Like, I just love.
- [43:27]
Buck Sexton
Yeah. Like Schindler's List. You aren't going to be like, oh.
- [43:30]
Karen Kilgariff
That'S a perfect example.
- [43:31]
Buck Sexton
Right.
- [43:31]
Karen Kilgariff
You could say that's the greatest movie. I don't think I know anybody who's seen that movie more than once. It's amazing movie. I just don't know people that have sat through it more than once. It's tough. It's a tough watch just being.
- [43:42]
Buck Sexton
I mean, it's depressing. A lot of great works of art. Films, correct. Are not fun, right? Like, they are. Like you feel worse in some way about the human condition when you finish as opposed to like, I watch, I watched the Harry Potter movies with my kids this weekend. I hadn't seen them in a long time. They're really fun and really good and most of the time you feel pretty good about them by the time they finish.
- [44:05]
Karen Kilgariff
Let's take some of these, some of these talk backs and some of these calls here, especially because people are yelling at Clay, which is always entertaining. DD William from San Diego listens on KOG radio. What's up? Hey, Clay. William Here in San Diego, I disagree.
- [44:20]
Buck Sexton
With your city rankings.
- [44:22]
Karen Kilgariff
I think San Diego is number one, America's finest city.
- [44:28]
Buck Sexton
San Diego is fabulous. Buck. Here is the challenge on San Diego. And you guys in San Diego can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't trust Blue city, Blue State combos. So I eliminated Blue city, Blue State. I'm not willing to.
- [44:45]
Karen Kilgariff
I think you have too many restrictions. I think your obstacle course has too much stuff thrown up into it now. Because, look, you got it. Like, LA has to be in consideration. You can't just say, oh, LA is not in consideration because it's a blue city and a blue state.
- [44:57]
Buck Sexton
Like, I like la, I've spent a lot of time there. I like San Diego. I'm not Will. These are places that I would live. You can't just rank somewhere on like, oh, I'm going to go there for a weekend that's different. Like, where's the best place to go for a weekend trip? Where would I live? Where would I raise a family? I'm eliminating Blue city, Blue State. I think that's significant.
- [45:17]
Karen Kilgariff
HH Don from Tampa listens on WFLA radio. Play it.
- [45:22]
Buck Sexton
Okay, now you have to include the Tampa Bay area.
- [45:26]
Karen Kilgariff
You got the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the.
- [45:29]
Buck Sexton
Lightning and the Rays.
- [45:32]
Karen Kilgariff
Now, Clay, I, I do not know Tampa well at all. I'm a Floridian. Who do I think? I've been to Tampa once in my life and I was a kid. I don't really remember it. And as a Miami person, I'm just saying we get a lot of anti, a lot of anti Tampa propaganda floats around Miami you know what I'm saying? It's a little bit like a Boston, New York thing, but I want to go spend some time there. So I can't. Again, I can't weigh in on the greatness of Tampa because I haven't spent enough time there. But I love our audience there because it is robust.
- [45:58]
Buck Sexton
I don't, I don't dislike Tampa. I like Orlando more than Tampa, and that's, that's going to be a little bit. Look, there are a lot of really nice parts of Orlando now. They only have one pro sports franchise. So I eliminated Orlando from my, my rankings. Tampa's got some really seedy parts.
- [46:21]
Karen Kilgariff
I want to get to Jerry in Houston because he's calling out something that I think needs to be called out. Jerry in Houston. Let's hear from him.
- [46:28]
Buck Sexton
Yeah. Clay, you need to get off the fence there, brother.
- [46:32]
Karen Kilgariff
Dallas and Houston are two separate cities. You need to pick one or the other. Quit busting bucks chops for not even coming up with five when you added actually six. Yeah. Thank you, Jerry. Clay with the ultimate fence sitting. I love the Houston Dallas Metroplex. That's. That's nonsense.
- [46:51]
Buck Sexton
Okay? If I have to pick and break the tie, I'm going to pick Houston because Mark Cuban doesn't live in Houston and Mark Cuban lives in Dallas.
- [47:01]
Karen Kilgariff
So I picked Houston because I love Houstonians for making us number one for three hours every day in that market. And Michael Berry, the greatest lead in we could possibly have on that radio station right before us. So that's why I love Houston.
- [47:14]
Buck Sexton
Well, look, I, like my sister lived in Houston and I was really impressed. People are like, oh, in the comments, they're coming after Houston in my top five. And by the way, Salt Lake City does have two pro sports franchises. They have a hockey team now. So they got the Jazz and they've got the. What I think they call them like the Utah Hockey Club or something like that. They moved from Phoenix.
- [47:38]
Karen Kilgariff
All right. I mean, your five list is not, it's not bad. It was I, I three out of the five. I think I got a co sign on, but we'll come back to this tomorrow. Also.
- [47:45]
Buck Sexton
Scottsdale Best.
- [47:55]
Clay Travis
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- [48:26]
Colby Ekowitz
Georgia from My favorite Murder. Thanks to Hyundai, we got to take a post show drive in the Ionic five.
- [48:31]
Christina Quinn
We had snacks, laughs, and we even recorded a special episode featuring some unforgettable car themed stories.
- [48:38]
Colby Ekowitz
Take a listen. So I'm going to tell you a story today, Karen. It's about a pivotal role that cars played in none other than the Montgomery Bus Boycott.
- [48:51]
Christina Quinn
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Colby Ekowitz
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