← The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
Loading summary
Transcript103 lines
- [00:00]
Clay Travis
This is an iHeart podcast.
- [00:02]
Buck Sexton
Guaranteed Human support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete Disclosures available at public.com Time for
- [01:06]
Anabe Sofa Advertiser
a Sofa Upgrade Introducing Anabe sofas where designer style meets budget friendly prices Anibe brings you the ultimate in furniture innovation with a modular design that allows you to rearrange your space effortlessly. Perfect for both small and large spaces, Anabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out. Say goodbye to stains and messes with liquid and stain resistant fabrics that make cleaning easy. Liquids simply slide right off. Designed for custom comfort, our high resilience foam lets you choose between a sink in feel or a supportive memory foam blend. Plus our pet friendly stain resistant fabrics ensure your sofa stays beautiful for years. Don't compromise quality for price. Visit washablesofas.com to upgrade your living space. Today sofas start at just $699 with no risk returns and a 30 day money back guarantee. Get up to 60% off plus free shipping and free returns. Shop now at washablesofas.com offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.
- [02:06]
Clay Travis
After reaching over $5,000 an ounce, gold prices have softened. What does that mean for you? It means this is a buying opportunity. Whether you haven't yet diversified your savings into gold or maybe you just want to buy more, Birch Gold Group can help you. The fundamentals are still out of whack. Surging oil prices keep inflation high, the national debt is still soaring and central banks are still buying massive quantities of gold. That's why my belief in gold hasn't changed one bit. Educate yourself. Birch Gold will send you a free info kit on gold when you text my name. Buck to 9,898 98. There's no obligation, only useful information including how you can own gold in a tax sheltered retirement account with an A rating with the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers. See if buying the dip makes sense for you right now. Text Buck to the number 989-898, claim your free info kit and diversify your savings with gold. Text BUCK to 9898 98.
- [03:06]
Zumo Play Advertiser
Deciding on what to listen to is hard. Using Xumo to stream music from iheart 90s radio is easy. Or play Iheart Country Classics radio or hip hop Beats, your choice.
- [03:15]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
All for free.
- [03:16]
Zumo Play Advertiser
Stream Easy with Zoomo Play. Get live and on demand entertainment with no logins, no signups, no accounts, no hassle. Free get cozy on the couch and binge your favorite movies like the Cable Guy starring Jim Carrey, the Bounty Hunter starring Jennifer Aniston and more. All streaming free on Zumo Play. Go to play.zumo.com now. Life is hard. Zumo is easy.
- [03:37]
Clay Travis
Welcome back in everybody to the third hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Still looking very closely at any updates on the second pilot. One pilot retrieved successfully after a apparent shoot down of an F15 in Iran. We will continue to monitor this and bring you any updates on it that we have something that I think is going to, well, hopefully going into this Easter weekend we'll have both of them back safe and sound and can at least move to the next next thing we have to look at in this conflict which continues on Clay, we have much in the economy I think to look at as very powerful, very strong right now, despite the fact that there are some high gas prices. We played this one before. This is from the first hour, but just hit it again. U.S. economy adding 178,000 jobs in March. This is cut one.
- [04:39]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
The expectation was what, 60,000 jobs and it's 178. Wow.
- [04:44]
Buck Sexton
Yeah, look, the job market bounced back
- [04:46]
Clay Travis
in a big way in March and
- [04:48]
Buck Sexton
that is good news, really blowing away expectations.
- [04:52]
Clay Travis
Clay, I think one challenge the Trump administration has had from the very beginning with all of this is they're really, they're almost victims of the, of their own success. The expectation is that the Trump economy will be strong. There'll be job growth, stock market boom, all kinds of productivity on the on the rise. And the American People becoming overall more prosperous in a lot of ways that can be measured. I know prices continue to be a major concern for people out there. This is the challenge of spending trillions of dollars with the COVID madness that we should not have spent because we should not have shut down at all. And the whole thing was, was just a disaster, a debacle from top to bottom with the government response to all of this Here we have, you know, a moment in time, Clay, where I think the reality of the Trump economy is apparent in that it is so strong that we don't hear much in the way of criticism about it. And the people that would love to talk about what a, a total mishandling of the economy has occurred on Trump's watch have to say or really have to say nothing because there's not a whole lot that they can attack here. The price issue is still very annoying and certainly the price on gas, I think gas prices are gonna go down and I think the overall issue of prices is really still a hangover from COVID You had the highest inflation in 40 years under Biden. You had trillions of dollars of completely unnecessary spending. And we have not dealt with the spending really. And that's just the truth of it, that if you're gonna criticize something, it's that both parties refuse to stop spending too much money and getting us deeper into the debt hole.
- [06:37]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
That's 100% accurate. I will say sometimes I think we don't notice some of the positive, transformative things that have happened in the early days of Trump 2.0. And I actually see these two things linked. One, we hit 125 year low in murders, which should be one of the great all time accomplishments, right? If you said, hey, we're going to have fewer murders than at any point since 1900, seems like that should be like a really good thing.
- [07:09]
Clay Travis
So, you know, it's interesting. I spoke to and this is actually maybe a pitch for the Clay and Buck podcast network. I spoke to a friend, Rafael Mangual of the Manhattan Institute. He's their criminal, their criminal justice senior fellow, analyst, writer, thinker. We, I spoke to him about this yesterday. Clicks. I said, so we're really at the lowest. And he says, by the way, the answer to your is yes, yes. It's certainly the lowest in like 60, 70 years. I mean they're saying 120. The, the statistics at some point are not apparently that really reliable if you go back far enough. But I think it's fair to say that murders, although wasn't There a huge spike in murders during prohibition with and Capone and all that for anyway. But per capita, I mean, I think
- [07:54]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
you could go back in time and say the Wild west in a pre1900 era. I think they had a lot of murders. You know, like I think the murder rate in Tombstone was probably pretty high compared to Phoenix today. For instance, in Arizona. Right.
- [08:08]
Clay Travis
Was it? I want, I have to look at that. I've never really.
- [08:11]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Oh yeah. I think the murder rate was off the charts back in the day. And by the way, you also just had people disappear. So I don't know that we even found dead bodies that well, you know, back in the day.
- [08:22]
Clay Travis
Well, think about how easy it would have been to get away with it back in the day before, before video cameras, phones, forensic analysis, fingerprinting, all of these things. It would have been, you know, ballistics analysis would have been pretty easy to get away with all kinds of bad stuff. But this was interesting was when I was talking to Rafael about this and you can listen to this on the Buck brief from the Clay and Buck podcast network. He said that there are that in the Trump. The Trump program has worked. But to talk about why the Trump program of lower and crime has worked, you have to look at the specific places where it has been deployed. Memphis, D.C. and they have really done a phenomenal job. Memphis is a great example. Murder rate down 40%. But they have used federal resources that have been really collaborating with local resources. So that gets around some of the, you know, you'll have basically a feds and cops in the same, you know, car or going around together working on gang issues, things like that. So that's been brilliant and that has absolutely worked. There are some broader though trends about the murder rate right now. For example, and he noted this. I thought this was interesting. I never heard anyone make this case before. There's been a precipitous drop in drinking in this country.
- [09:43]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Yeah.
- [09:44]
Clay Travis
And I'm not trying to be a church lady over here, like put down that beer. But there's been a precipitous lowering of drinking in recent years and particularly among younger, you know, youngish people and who commits murders. It's overwhelming. People 18 to 35. I mean that's really where most of the, that's where most of the shootings are happening.
- [10:03]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Yeah, the most young men, young men who are Pre marriage age 16 to 40 is like every murder.
- [10:12]
Mike Rogers
Right.
- [10:12]
Clay Travis
So I'm not saying, you know, if, if you're sitting on the, on the veranda this weekend enjoying a Nice glass of, of Bullet or something, you know. Is that a good one? Is that, is that. I.
- [10:24]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Look, I, I'm a Buffalo Trace family bourbon guy, so I'll probably have an Old Fashioned at some point this weekend.
- [10:32]
Clay Travis
If you're a 55 year old enjoying an Old Fashioned this weekend, no one's saying you're going to go Incredible Hulk, rip your shirt off and get super violent.
- [10:38]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
But yes, Bullet is a nice, is a good choice.
- [10:42]
Clay Travis
Oh, there we go. So you know that, that's one that I think, for example, I think that's an interesting case to be made. He says the data backs this up, that the drop in drinking, broadly speaking, results in less violence and specifically less murder.
- [10:58]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Yeah.
- [10:58]
Clay Travis
So that's accurate. And also a lot less. He said that people, because of remote work, there is less concentration of people in, in cities, in some places and particularly in places like people aren't on mass transit in the same numbers. People aren't having the same level of contact with each other because of so much more remote work. And that, that has. I just thought this is really interesting. I never thought of this before and this is a guy, all he does is look at the numbers. I should probably invite him on the show.
- [11:30]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Yeah, that would be great. We should have him on to do a deep dive on this because I think that's super interesting.
- [11:36]
Clay Travis
But also, and here's the really big one, the overall incarcerated population under Trump has been going up.
- [11:44]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Yeah.
- [11:45]
Clay Travis
And that's really. Now the other ones, the other ones are just kind of interesting data nerd stuff. But that's really keep bad, scary, violent criminals off the streets. Clay. This is the big difference. And this is Trump U.S. attorneys because remember, any drug stuff, gangs can be hit with rico. Any major drug crimes are federal. A lot of the time if you're involved with a drug gang, you're carrying a weapon illegally and you're selling drugs, that's federal. There's a lot of stuff that falls under federal jurisdiction. And so it's whether the US Attorneys that Trump has appointed are willing to enforce the law meaningfully or not. The answer is yes. And people are getting locked up in Clay. Murder rate gone down a lot. It is possible.
- [12:31]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
So that is occurring. Buck and I would actually connect it with this one because it's also incredibly transformative and it's not getting very much attention either. Fewest federal employees, because we added 178,000 new jobs this morning was the, was the official March number. But simultaneously we've been firing a lot of people who worked in federal government such that. And this is kind of a crazy stat. Again, it should be getting a lot of attention right now. We have the fewest Federal employees since 1966. Not per capita, the fewest federal employees, our tax dollars paying for federal employees since 1966. And I know everybody wanted to tap dance on Elon Musk and Doge, and it's frustrating that a lot of the Doge spending excesses were not ratified into law. I'm not signifying that's not significant. But the decision to go after the federal workforce and basically say, hey, we'll pay you to leave and go find a job somewhere else. We don't need taxpayer dollars to be able to be continuing to do it. Don't you think that's kind of interesting? Sometimes it's hard to think big picture because in the day to day there's so much noise and it's like we have a fire hose of data that's spraying out every day and it's hard to be on top of things. Two things that happened in the last year, lowest murder rate since 1900, fewest federal employees since 1966. Both of those are really transformative data points which are very beneficial now. Buck, is $39 trillion in debt still way too much? Yes. Do Democrats and Republicans join hands and just spend money like drunken sailors? Yes. Are there major structural issues with the level of debt that we have set in place in the United States? Yes. But I do think it's worth looking at some of these green shoots of positivity in Trump's first year and saying, hey, we should really kind of. Sometimes this gets snowed under in all the noise. Who's going to be the next ag what's going to happen with the Supreme Court? I've got a data point for you on that coming back out of the next break. But I do think these are pretty significant details that are not going to get the attention they should.
- [15:01]
Clay Travis
So yes, it is in fact the case I looked this up, Clay, that you're talking about a 21% decline in the US national homicide rate from, from 2024 through 2025. So that's the one we obviously have the complete year data from. You're looking at about 4 to 100,000 residents. So it's 4 per 100,000 people murders in the United States. Is that this is, I'm just reading this off of, you know, AI as we're going here. I believe that's potentially the lowest since at least 1900.
- [15:36]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Yeah, that's what I'm saying 125 year low. And again, no, I question. In 1904, were we great at counting murders? I have a suspicion that maybe you could have gotten away with them. Murder in 1904 compared to now.
- [15:48]
Clay Travis
The 2025 drop was especially steep in 31 of 35 large cities tracked by the Council on Criminal Justice. 40% plus drops in Denver, Omaha, and what now, Washington, D.C. of course, part of the Trump program. Clay, a big part of this is just going after. And this is, I think, something that, you know, we should. We should bring Cash Patel back. Team, reach out to Director Patel, because I want to talk to him about this. I want to hear from the FBI side. I don't think they're getting enough credit for this. I think more needs to be made of this. Think about how many lives. Talk about thousands of lives being saved by change in policy here. And I always have to point this out to people, too. Yeah, of course. You're saving a life. That's the most important thing. But you're also saving with each life saved. In this case, you're talking about a family that still has a dad, a son, a brother.
- [16:40]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Yes.
- [16:40]
Clay Travis
So think of how it affects all of them. A community that doesn't have to go to a horrific funeral for someone who's, you know, 20 years old and was shot. I mean, this story. I can't even talk about the story. This baby was killed in Brooklyn shooting. I mean, this horrible stuff that happens every time something like that is averted. It's such a blessing. I think the Jewish word is mitzvah. It's like. It's such a beautiful thing, Yiddish word, you know, and it's something that the administration needs to be talking to people about more because this needs to be the way it is going forward. Yeah. People who are bad, who are violent criminals, who are a threat to society need to be the first, the top priority, the number one priority of the FBI. Not people that showed up and took a selfie in the capitol building for 45 seconds and walked out after they had been guided in by law enforcement officers, which happened to a lot of people. Okay. That's not actually the top priority of the FBI. 30% of FBI officers, Clay, were in some way working on January 6th adjacent cases. People are being raped and murdered on the streets.
- [17:46]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Yes.
- [17:47]
Clay Travis
They're gang members that are torturing people on video and sending it to, you know, to rival factions. And we got. They're chasing down grannies in their. With their fanny packs on because they walked into statuary hall for A second. I mean, you know, really, this is what the Biden FBI was doing. It's, it's, it's disgraceful.
- [18:05]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Lowest in 125 years. 20, 25. Buck, let me hit you with this data. In D.C. right now. Compared to last season last year, a 66% decline in murders year over year. D.C. is on pace to be the safest maybe that it has ever been in the history of Washington D.C. certainly on a per capita basis, but maybe on a raw data basis. Remember when President Trump called in the National Guard, everybody said, you're crazy. There's no impact that's going to happen here. Or they lied and said crime wasn't bad. 66% decline in murder since last year. We just don't have to allow murders. I think that's what we're learning from Memphis and Washington D.C. we know what we can do and we can drive it down in a substantial way. Look, I want to tell you, I'm looking out right now. I got a ton of new trees that are growing in my yard. It's spring. It's gonna be like 85 degrees today here in Nashville, maybe even hotter in Nashville than Miami for the first time in a long time. And there are a lot of people that are gonna be out this weekend running around with your families for the Easter weekend. But also gardening, getting your homes ready for the brand new warm weather returning. Spring has sprung and fast growing trees can hook you up. Online nursery offering an amazing variety. Over 2 million customers that number growing every day. And right now you get 20% off first time orders. Fast growing trees.com my name clay for 20 off that's fast growing trees.com 20 off I'm putting them in at my house. If you love trees as much as I do plants, you don't have to have a yard. You can figure out what makes sense in your condo, in your apartment, in your townhome and in your yard. If you are like me and have a yard with lots of different plants that you want to grow, well, fast growingtrees.com my name clay for 20% off that's fast growing trees.com my name clay for 20 percent off Support America. Support the show. Follow and preset Clay and buck on the iHeartRadio app.
- [20:20]
Buck Sexton
Support for the show comes from public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public, you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI it all starts with your prompt from renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. You can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete Disclosures available at public.comDisclosures Time for
- [21:21]
Anabe Sofa Advertiser
a Sofa Upgrade Introducing Anibe sofas where designer style meets budget friendly prices. Anime brings you the ultimate in furniture innovation with a modular design that allows you to rearrange your space effortlessly. Perfect for both small and large spaces, Anabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out. Say goodbye to stains and messes with liquid and stain resistant fabrics that make cleaning easy. Liquids simply slide right off. Designed for custom comfort, our high resilience foam lets you choose between a sink in feel or a supportive memory foam blend. Plus our pet friendly stain resistant fabrics ensure your sofa stays beautiful for years. Don't compromise quality for price. Visit washablesofas.com to upgrade your living space. Today sofas start at just $699 with no risk returns and a 30 day money back guarantee. Get up to 60% off plus free shipping and free returns. Shop now at washablesofas.com offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.
- [22:21]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Life's non stop work Family workouts True nature meets New York Strip steak.
- [22:27]
Buck Sexton
Richly seasoned pre cooked perfection that melts in your mouth 30 years supplying the
- [22:32]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
finest steakhouses heat and 4 minutes. No stress, just nourishing joy. Head to TrueNatureMeats.com code free meat for 20 off plus free New York strip Texas Smoked Brisket and Mediterranean chicken with code free meat@truenaturemeats.com deciding on what to
- [22:52]
Zumo Play Advertiser
listen to is hard. Using Zumo to stream music from iheart 90s radio is easy or play Iheart Country Classics radio or hip hop beat your choice.
- [23:01]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
All for free.
- [23:02]
Zumo Play Advertiser
Stream easy with Zoomo Play. Get live and on demand entertainment with no logins no signups, no accounts, no hassle. Get cozy on the couch and binge your favorite movies like the Cable Guy starring Jim Carrey, the Bounty Hunter, starring Jennifer Aniston and more. All streaming free on Zumo Play. Go to play.zumo.com now. Life is hard. Zumo is easy.
- [23:22]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Welcome back in. All right, can our F14 pilot get his story in? He's been waiting a while. Tom. Fire. Give us the gusto.
- [23:31]
Clay Travis
Team pilots only learned of the success of their attack when Argentine operatives in England heard the news on the BBC and reported it back to Argentina.
- [23:41]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
So it was so the weather was so bad that they weren't sure they had managed to hit their target until they saw the news report that they had hit their target.
- [23:50]
Clay Travis
Correct.
- [23:51]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Thank you. That's a great call. I would say, Buck, it would seem to be a failure of military intelligence if the pilots themselves did not know if they had had a successful raid or not until the media reported that they had had a successful raid. Doesn't that seem like maybe your own intel should be able to tell whether you did your objective or not? Now this is what, 19 early 80s? I don't think that happens today.
- [24:16]
Clay Travis
Argentina didn't have the most sophisticated intelligence collection apparatus back then. Honestly, still doesn't today. So I'm not. I'm not all that surprised. But they mess with Margaret Thatcher. Iron lady wasn't a good idea. Gold is a limited commodity, one that holds value over time. Some years it appreciates slowly. Other years like last year, it grows rapidly. And this month, gold prices have softened a bit. Sure, but for people that believe in the long term thesis of gold, it's a buying opportunity. Gold, my friend, there's a reason people know about the gold standard. It's part of our vernacular. And Birch Gold Group can help you get gold. Now I've bought gold from Birch Gold Group. That's a great way to do it. They'll send you actual physical gold to your home. It's very easy and straightforward. But you can also get gold for your IRA or 401k. You can transfer an IRA or 401k into gold. Birch Gold will walk you through this whole thing. They make it really easy for you. They'll send you a free info kit on gold. Text My name Buck to 98. 98. 98. Text B U C K to 9,898. 98. There's no obligation, only useful information. Text Buck to 98. 98.98.
- [25:26]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are joined now By Mike Rogers. He is going to be the Senate candidate for Republicans running this floor fall in Michigan for an open Senate seat there. Let's bring him in. That election, I believe in Michigan and he can correct me if I'm wrong, is August 4th and in particular Georgia, New Hampshire and Michigan, among others. But those are right now Democrat held seats. Mike, we want you to win. If you win, then there's a virtual certainty Republicans would retain control of the Senate because I would imagine you would agree with this. There's almost no map where Democrats lose their Michigan seat and are able to take a majority in the Senate. So this is both important in Michigan, but it's also supremely important nationwide.
- [26:20]
Mike Rogers
Yeah, this, this is the number one pickup opportunity in the country. We're leading all three Democrat candidates in head to head polling. So they have a primary that's going to go all the way to August 4th, which is really late. We've eliminated our primary. The whole team is on board and backed this particular race, which is why we're the number one pickup opportunity. So that's huge. And you're right, when we win Michigan, they can't take back the Senate. So if you're looking for a place to invest in a race to make a difference for the future of the country, Michigan is it. This is the place to, to if you have a little, a few coins left in the back of those cushions, fellas, this is the place to send that money.
- [27:03]
Clay Travis
So it's great that you're the Trump endorsed candidate up there in Michigan that'll obviously have a lot of residents with the, the GOP faithful there. Can you speak to in your state? Independents, swing voters, what do they look like as a cohort? Is the primary issue for them just economics? You know what, what do you have to do essentially to get over the line here? Yeah, it's like every election turnout, of course, really matters. But if you're reaching those who are not just going to say, this is Trump's guy, I'm going to vote for him, what do those voters in Michigan look like and how do you reach them?
- [27:39]
Mike Rogers
Yeah, and so this is going to be that jobs, economy, wrong track for Michigan. This is a change election. And that's what I think the national pundits don't may have missed. The governor has been a Democrat for the last decade, better part of a decade. And They've had these two Senate seats, they the Democrats for 30 years. We've lost 30,000 manufacturing jobs. Our defense industrial base operations have moved south. We went from top tier education in the country. We're now 44. Our wage, median wage has kind of flattened out in Michigan. So I worked on a factory floor. I have been in the military, I have been in the private sector. What we're saying is this is the time for change. You want Michigan back up off her knees and building things again. I'm the guy to get it done. And we have a plan to make housing more affordable that doesn't include a big government, new government program. We have a way to push down on prices and recapture the defense industrial based jobs that we lost over the last few years. That's all coming back to Michigan. We will once again be the arsenal of democracy. So when you look at independence, they just want to a better education, they want a better job opportunity and they want their kids to make the choice to stay in Michigan. And we're going to do all those
- [28:57]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
things three way race. You just hit on it between well funded Democrat candidates. You don't even know who your opponent's going to be. You won't know until August 4th. How much hay can you make given that you're the guy while they fight it out. And again, August 4th is a really late primary. Um, you know, by the time their primary is decided, there's almost early voting that's going to be underway. They're going to have to spend a lot of money to pick a nominee and then that nominee is going to have to spend a ton of money to make people aware of who he or she is. And by the way, we just had a controversy come out of the Democrat side. One of their candidates, a guy named Abdul El Sayed, didn't want to condemn the killing of the Ayatollah because too many people he said in Dearborn were sad about it. And that actually made him go up in the Democrat Party. This is pretty radical group that you're running against.
- [29:54]
Mike Rogers
Very radical. And think about it, he's now the standard bearer for the party. He's gotten more Act Blue donations because of his embracing the Ayatollah. And by the way, that came on the heels of him saying that the, the individual, the terrorist who tried to kill 140 Jewish school children in, in Michigan by driving his car loaded with explosives into a synagogue. He said, well, if we weren't at war, he probably wouldn't have done that anyway. This is a guy whose father was, or excuse me, brother was a commander in the, in Hezbollah, a terrorist organization. Oh, and by the way, he had been radicalized months before his brother had been killed. In an Israeli strike. I mean, that just to me is unqualifying. If you're willing to stand with a terrorist, if you're willing to stand with the Ayatollah, the leading terrorist sponsor in the world, man, I just think that makes you unqualified. He's endorsed by Bernie Sanders, very radical. All of his numbers went up. That's why people need to pay attention to places like, listen, you cannot allow the Democrats that are this radical getting traction in a place like Michigan. It would be devastating for us. And so we got a lot of work to do. But the other two aren't any better. One is, you know, one is a Chuck Schumer candidate. The other one has Chris Murphy as, as their benefactor. They've covered the gamut of radical politics in America. And that's why this race becomes even more important. To let that part of the Democrat Party, which candidly, the three parts of it is, all of it, that they're not going to gain ground in a working class state like Michigan. And trust me, I worked on a car factory floor. I know these people. I know how important these jobs are to the middle class in Michigan. That's why I think we're going to do exceptionally well and I think that's why we're leading. You know, it's pretty rare for a Republican to lead the Democrat candidates this early. Normally we close the gap toward the end. We're ahead. We got to keep that momentum, let them fight it out between now and August while we continue to build support around the state and build our team as well.
- [32:06]
Clay Travis
Mike, what do you think about what's going on in Iran? Obviously, we're still waiting to hear if the second pilot has been retrieved safely. One pilot has been, has been rescued after his plane was downed in this conflict. In this situation, what can you tell us?
- [32:23]
Mike Rogers
Yeah, you know, I think, boy, it's really hard when you have to justify every minute of the war. I think for the President, it's unfortunate. I hope they found the second, get the second pilot. They've rescued the first one. Which tells you that's an incredible feat in and of itself. It wasn't that long after they were shot down that they had that one pilot in custody or retrieved. You think about what's this phase of the warfare. It's going closer to the ground and it's not stealth fighting. So that first part of this conflict in the last month has all been stealth fighters, stealth bombers, Stealth fighters delivering payloads that are absolutely decimating the enemy like no nowhere else in the world has ever really seen. And so this next phase, it's clear to me that they're using lower capable aircraft. The F15E series can be lower. It can, you know, find smaller targets on the ground and engage them. And that's what that tells me. So with that, you know, you have certain shoulder fired missiles that they can have. You know, it's those are hard to get all of them, you know, you can get a lucky shot and that sounds like what happened today. But we have to remember this is just a phase and I'm sure they'll address the US will adjust tactics because of this. But it just tells you how successful. Now they're looking for targets with low. The ability to have low flying aircraft is we walk away from this with a degraded if not eliminated nuclear program capability. Ballistic missiles which by the way made them so dangerous in such terrorist proxy lovers across the Middle east. That's gone. The drone program is decimated and really hard to reconstitute. Being able to build and deploy mines in the Straits, decimated, hard to. That's a huge win for safety and security of the region and certainly the United States. For 47 years we've had every president seven I think talk about we're going to contain Iran. Matter of fact, Hillary Clinton said when she became president she was going to bomb them. People seem to forget that this is the first president that has said, listen, we're not going to let you get a nuclear weapon. We, we decimated your program. You came right back and tried to rebuild it within days. That tells you we had a problem. We're not going to do this forever. I think this is the right thing to do. I do think it will be over quickly because the military piece of this, they're getting down to the last targets, which is why you have these low flying aircraft.
- [34:47]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Last question for you. You mentioned this a second ago. The attempted terror attack thankfully was foiled on a Jewish synagogue in Oakland County. My wife's family, many of them live in Oakland County. I was just up for a bar in Bat Mitzvah in Oakland County. Huge Jewish population, large Arab population in that area too. Are you seeing Jewish voters recognizing that many Democrats have turned their backs on them? Again, we mentioned one of the top candidates that you might be running against not wanting to even mention the Ayatollah being killed because some might be angry. Is that moving some of that electorate in Oakland county, which is a huge battleground county and has become in the Trump era, one of the real bellwethers in your State.
- [35:38]
Mike Rogers
Yeah, I think I've seen some of it. It's hard to tell. It's, you know, I saw a report where 40% of the Jewish population in New York City voted for Mandami, which is a head scratcher to me. I, I don't understand that. How would it be that high?
- [35:54]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Candidly, yeah.
- [35:55]
Mike Rogers
So in Michigan, I think we're experiencing a little bit of that. I think it's starting to come around. I do think the attack on the synagogue brings it home. I can't tell you how many people I've talked to who in and around the state, who that was their kind of synagogue, that was their place of choice. That's where some of them went to school at an on occasion. It's the largest synagogue in the state. So it had a profound impact. I hope that they're coming to the conclusion you can't have a guy who's running who is now the front runner, Abdul El said, I want a Mandami Michigan, which he did, and wonder how, you know, our Jewish population in the state can even allow that to happen. I do see some waking up. We have a long way to go. And here's the other thing I think is really important for viewers to understand. We have other very big Arab populations that are Christian. Chaldeans, which are Iraqi Catholics is very big in Michigan. We have Lebanese Christians really big in Michigan. And then we have other Muslim groups who are not upset that what's hap, what they see happening in Iran, they know that their homelands have been terrorized all across the Middle east, those Arab countries, by Iran, the leading sponsor of terror. If they're not able to fund Hamas and Hezbollah and The Houthis and 10 other, by the way, small terrorist groups operating in that region, guess what? Things become peaceful. Their families back home become a little more safe. So we do have a pretty activist Muslim population there that's very pro Palestine. They're active and they're working at it. But there's other populations there that I think we're going to be able to get their votes going into November.
- [37:35]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
President Trump did quite well with Arab voters in Michigan, as you well know. And, and so there's a lot of people maybe in non traditional Democrat voting bases that are up for grabs. Mike Rogers, how can people help you if they want to get involved in your Senate campaign, which as you said is the top target to flip a current Democrat held seat?
- [37:58]
Mike Rogers
First of all, Clay is going to call all of his relatives in Oakland county and say, Mike Rogers, that's been a little phone time play. That's really important. Secondly, go to rogersforsenate.com R O G E R SFOR senate.com if you think that a little bit of money can't go a long way. This is the race, this is the investment. If you want to protect the future of the country, you've got to get engaged in a race like Michigan. Let's win this thing and make it impossible for the Democrats to take back the Michigan Senate. I think that would be great for the country. Certainly great for Michigan. Rogersforcenate.com we'd love to have your volunteer time and any small donation coming across in our donation page means the world to us. So thanks for, thanks for having us.
- [38:43]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Yeah, no doubt I'll be up. My father in law just had his 80th birthday so we're going to come up and celebrate that in the Detroit area in two weeks. So I will make the pitch to all my relatives at that event that they got to get out and make sure they vote for you this week.
- [38:56]
Mike Rogers
Speech there. Clay, why this is important.
- [38:59]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
I'll take over. I'll take over the MIC during the 80th birthday party and I'll get up on stage and make sure they all raise their hands and their getting out to vote for you. Thank you Mike. Encourage everybody to get out on that website. It could control the future of the United States Senate. Michigan has a lot of important votes in their hands. Thank you sir.
- [39:17]
Mike Rogers
Hey, thanks Clay. Thanks Buck.
- [39:19]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Look to mark the 25th anniversary of 911 the tunnel the towers foundation has planned the most comprehensive commemoration in history. Tunnel the Towers nonprofit organization. Buck was just at one of their events in West Palm Beach. I have been to a lot of them where they do such an amazing job of bringing the families that they have helped who have lost so much. And right now, this May through September, the Foundation Steel Across America tour is transporting a powerful symbol of reverence and resilience to communities across the country. An authentic steel beam from the World Trade center in honor of the 343 members of the New York City Fire Department who made the ultimate sacrifice on 9 11. The foundation is delivering 343 mortgage free homes to heroes and their families while continuing their efforts to eradicate veteran homelessness. The 911 Institute's educational curriculum reaching classrooms nationwide. While firsthand accounts are being shared through the 911 Speakers Bureau and the Foundation's mobile exhibit traveling to communities across America informing generations. Join us in donating $11 a month and amplify your impact with a car or land donation, go to t2t.org that's t2t.org politics, news, military, moms, health data, food and culture. Find it all in the Clay and Buck Podcast network on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [40:47]
Buck Sexton
Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc, SEC Registered Advisor. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures tired
- [41:48]
Anabe Sofa Advertiser
of spills and stains on your sofa? Wash away your worries with Anabe. Annabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly prices. That's right, sofas start at just $699. Enjoy a no risk experience with pet friendly stain resistant and changeable slip covers made with performance fabric. Experience cloud like comfort with high resilience foam that's hypoallergenic and never needs fluffing. The sturdy steel frame ensures longevity and the modular pieces can can be rearranged anytime. Shop washablesofas.com for up to 60% off site wide backed by a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not absolutely in love, send it back for a full refund. No return shipping or restocking fees. Every penny back Upgrade now@washablesofas.com Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.
- [42:48]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Life's non stop work Family workouts True Nature Meats New York Strip Steak Richly
- [42:55]
Buck Sexton
seasoned pre cooked perfection that melts in your mouth.
- [42:58]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
30 years supplying the finest steakhouses heat in 4 minutes, no stress just nourishing joy. Head to TrueNatureMeats.com code free meat for 20% off plus free New York strip Texas Smoked Brisket and Mediterranean chicken with
- [43:15]
Zumo Play Advertiser
code freemeat@trunaturemeats.com deciding on what to listen to is hard. Using Xumo to stream music from iheart 90s radio is easy. Or play iheart country classics radio or Hip Hop Beats your choice.
- [43:28]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
All for free.
- [43:29]
Zumo Play Advertiser
Stream Easy with Zumo Play. Get live and on demand entertainment with no logins, no signups, no accounts, no hassle. Get cozy on the couch and binge your favorite movies like the Cable Guy starring Jim Carrey, the Back Bounty Hunter starring Jennifer Aniston and more. All streaming free on Zumo Play. Go to play.zumo.com now life is hard. Zumo is easy.
- [43:49]
Clay Travis
Close enough Shop on Clay and Buck before we send you off for the weekend, which everyone has been working for, even if you weren't working, you were getting ready for it. So I want to tell you to go check out the Clay and Buck podcast network, which is fantastic. Some might even say fabulous. Some people are saying thank you for your attention in this matter. So you do that by going to wherever you get your podcast. I think the best place to go is the iHeartRadio app and then you can subscribe. We got great shows on there. Carol Markowitz, Tudor Dixon, Dave Rutherford, Ryan Graduski's Crushing it with It's a Numbers Game there. People love that podcast. They're addicted to the political nerd stuff. So much great stuff there on the podcast network. And over the weekend is a fantastic time to check up and catch up rather on anything that you may have missed. Clay, are you, are you going to be celebrating Easter? Are you going to be a heathen? I saw you wearing pink last weekend on tv because I was wearing pink.
- [44:41]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
I will be at church, I believe, on Sunday. My wife is in charge of all family related obligations this weekend. So we've got family in town, the boys and you're. You've got a one year old. This is going to start to stack up for you. It's unbelievable how many sports and events that they have on an average weekend now. And it's never like super close, but whether it's soccer, my lacrosse, football, I mean, it's just unbelievable. Every weekend it feels like we have 40 different sporting events.
- [45:19]
Clay Travis
I don't know if you're able to answer this or if this will get you in trouble so you can defer and just kick it into the weekend. As a dad what sport that your boys play is the most fun to watch?
- [45:30]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Football.
- [45:31]
Buck Sexton
Football.
- [45:32]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Football is the best sport to watch. I think. No matter in my opinion, no matter what baseball is, I've coached them all. Baseball I think is the most fun to coach because, you know, being a first base coach or a third base coach, you get to actually talk to him during the game. And I would say that's probably, I mean I've coached soccer, baseball, baseball, football, basketball all. And which one do you think you coach the best? Probably that's a good question. I don't. I think baseball, your overall coaching matters the least. I think probably football, it matters the most. So I would probably say basketball is the one that I had the most impact on. At least it's fun.
- [46:15]
Clay Travis
I'm going to go play some padels this weekend before I go for Easter.
- [46:18]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
Eat your pistachio ice cream too. Speaking truth and having fun Clay Travis
- [46:25]
Anabe Sofa Advertiser
and Buck Sexton Tired of spills and stains on your sofa? Wash away your worries with Annabe. Annabe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly prices. That's right, sofas start at just $699. Enjoy a no risk experience with pet friendly stain resistant and changeable slip covers made with performance fabric Experience cloud like comfort with high resilience foam that's hypoallergenic and never needs fluffing. The sturdy steel frame ensures longevity and the modular pieces can be rearranged anytime. Shop washablesofas.com for up to 60% off site wide, backed by a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not absolutely in love, send it back for a full refund. No return, shipping or restocking fees. Every penny back. Upgrade now@washablesofas.com Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.
- [47:26]
Zumo Play Advertiser
Deciding on what to listen to is hard. Using Zumo to stream music from iheart 90s radio is easy or Play I Heart Country Classics radio or hip hop beats, your choice.
- [47:36]
Buck Sexton (co-host, sometimes overlapping with B)
All for free.
- [47:37]
Zumo Play Advertiser
Stream Easy with Zoomo Play. Get live and on demand entertainment with no logins, no signups, no accounts, no hassle. Get cozy on the couch and binge your favorite movies like the Cable Guy starring Jim Carrey, the Bounty Hunter starring Jennifer Aniston and more. All streaming free on Zumo Play. Go to play.zumo.com now life is hard. Xumo is easy.
- [47:57]
Martha Stewart
This is Martha Stewart from the Martha Stewart Podcast. Ever wonder how to make hosting look effortless? Here's a secret Getting ahead of the mess with new Reynolds Kitchens Countertop Prep paper Just lightly wet the counter beforehand so the paper grips and stays in place. Then lay down the Reynolds Kitchens countertop prep paper so drips and spills stay on the paper, not all over your kitchen counter. You can roll out dough, prep a party spread, or cook alongside family. When you're done, cleanup is as simple as lifting the paper and revealing that clean counter underneath. Effortless. You can use it for cooking and baking, prep and even crafting, especially when you need extra working space. Because when the mess is already handled, you can focus on what matters the food, the people, and the moment. It may look effortless, but now you know it's Reynolds Kitchens Countertop prep paper. Take a tip from me. Wet it, set it, prep it. Done. Make it easy. Make it with Reynolds Kitchens Countertop prep paper. Available now in the Reynolds wrap aisle in Walmart.
- [49:10]
Buck Sexton
These days, it seems like AI agents
- [49:12]
Clay Travis
are just about everywhere you turn every field and every function. But without identity, you can't trust they'll serve your business instead of jeopardizing them.
- [49:20]
Buck Sexton
Fortunately, Okta helps you get identity right
- [49:23]
Clay Travis
by securing your AI agents identities, giving you a single layer of control, a single standard of trust. So whether an AI agent supports a
- [49:31]
Buck Sexton
single user or your entire enterprise, with Okta you'll turn risk into opportunity.
- [49:36]
Clay Travis
Secure every agent. Secure any agent. Okta secures AI.