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- [00:00]
Buck Sexton
This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human. Third hour of play in. Buck kicks off with the one and only Steve Hilton, everybody. He is running as a Republican for governor of the beautiful state, the poorly governed but beautiful state of California. And Steve Hilton is with us now. Steve, busy times, my friend. Thank you for coming here. We have been early Steve Hilton adopters, you could say, in this whole process. Been having you on now from the very beginning to get the word out to our very large audience of Californians who are behind liberal lines there and listening in to what's going on here on Clay. And Buck, let's start with. We got to just start with this, the Swalwell situation. Was this a surprise to you when it hit? And why do you think it hit now?
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Steve Hilton
Yeah, thanks guys. I mean, the timing was definitely a surprise, but the fact of it was not at all a surprise. This has been an open secret for as long as, certainly for me, I've known about this. People talk about it, including Democrats in Sacramento, for as long as he's been in the race, probably longer. It's an open secret on Capitol Hill, certainly in Sacramento. And it just shows you the fact that despite that he got the endorsement of the big, the teacher unions, the seiu, Adam Schiff, all these Nancy Pelosi acolytes. It just shows you how corrupt, cynical and arrogant these people are, these career politicians who just think they can get away with anything, doesn't matter what they say or do, there'll be no consequences. It's the kind of arrogance you get from 16 years of one party rule in California. Honestly, all they care about is their power. Just think about all their endless lectures on women's rights, the war, gender equality, MeToo, blah, blah, blah. They don't believe any of it. It's all about their power. The machine was moving behind Swalwell. Actually, everyone expected him to get the machine's endorsement even with all this going on. Finally it came out. I didn't expect it, but it's very good news because it means that when it kind of clarifies the situation somewhat. And the thing that it really shows is that we are so desperately in need of change in California. There's this sort of collapsing of the California Democrats into chaos and sleaze and scandal. Just another really powerful indication of why we so desperately need change.
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Clay Travis
Why did it happen? Now? Buck and I have been discussing, debating, contemplating why at this point he was the leader. Do you think there was a fear that he was going to be the nominee and that it might come out after he was one of the two finalists. Do you think this was Katie Porter? Do you think it was Tom Steyer? Where did this come from? Now, as you said, the rumors have been out there for a long time about him. He even addressed them in some of his endorsement interviews. Reports are, why now?
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Steve Hilton
So I don't know. But what I'm hearing very strongly, including from, from people I know on the Democrat side and from reporters following the race, is that it's Tom Steyer. That that's what people are saying. Now, just to be clear, I have no evidence for that, but that is what everybody is saying, that it's Tom Steyer who's got unlimited money. He's this billionaire climate fanatic. As we know, he's already spent over $100 million on his race just in the last few months with these endless ads that are driving everyone crazy in California. It's lifted him up from 2 or 3% to 10 or 11%. So it's kind of working for him in a pathetic sort of way, you could say. And he's spending money on this kind of thing as well. Katie Porter, by the way, blames Tom Steyer for the leaking of all those videos of her berating her staff and so on. She thinks that's Tom Steyer and she thinks there's more of that to come. And so I don't know. I'm just reporting what I hear.
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Buck Sexton
This is remarkable stuff. And now we see what a total mess. Whether we're not surprised at all that the Democrats have been willing, the Democrat media, I should say, well, all of it together, the whole apparatus, to keep this stuff under wraps. As you said, it has been known that he's sketchy for a long time. I remember doing Tucker's show on Fox years ago, and Tucker just couldn't stop laughing about the fang Fang thing. So, I mean, this is. There's been a lot of smoke before this fire came out. A lot of people very much dialed in on Swalwell being a sketchy. A sketchy fellow in terms of the other. So you think it's stier because again, the timing of this. Why not keep him off the ballot entirely? At some level, Incompetence here among Democrats, I think, is something we shouldn't keep off the table. Right. Meaning that they just. This happened. They weren't paying close enough attention and then it came up later on. But what does this do explain now the rest of the field. So Swalwell is out. Can you take us through the reordering? I believe you're at the top of this whole thing, the reordering of the candidates and how you think this shifts the race.
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Caller
Yeah.
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Steve Hilton
So remember, we got this top two system, which is ridiculous. The top two candidates go through regardless of party. For most of this year, the top two candidates have been me and the other Republican. And I've been leading and my lead has been growing, but it's pretty much been the top two a couple of times. More recently, Swalwell has been in the top two. A lot of Republicans have therefore been saying, oh, this is great, we'll have two Republicans in the top two, and that means we're guaranteed a change in California. I've always said that that's a fantasy, that the Democrat machine is not just going to hand over California. They'll spend whatever it takes to make sure that there's a Democrat in the top two. The unions will. They've got tens of millions of dollars or Styer. So I always said the more important thing is to make sure there's a Republican in the top two by ensuring that we don't split the vote and make sure that there's one strong lead in candidate. Now, for most of this year, I've been leading not by much, but two, three points ahead. That lead has been growing in the last couple of weeks. So, for example, there were two polls last week. One had me 19%, everyone else 13 and below. Another one, ironically, from Eric Swalwell's backers, had me at 22%, Swalwell at 18, everyone else 12, 13%. And those polls were taken before the big news last Sunday, on Easter Sunday, that President Trump had endorsed me in the governor's race. That's a huge moment. And so we can expect my lead to grow and a consolidation to happen on, on our side. On the Republican side. That's very important because what you might also see is the Swalwell support, let's call it, I don't know, 15, 16% split evenly. It's not obvious to me where that would go. Either Tom Steyer or Katie Porter, I don't know, maybe some of the other lower polling candidates. But in other words, Steyer and Porter, you would expect to move up a bit. And that's why it's very important we make sure that we have one Republican and get behind me. That's been my message for weeks now. It's even more important now as you're going to get a consolidation on the Democrat side. My expectation right now is as we move towards election Day, remember, ballots go out in three Weeks in California, you're going to see a kind of top three emerging, which is myself, Tom Stier and Katie Porter. And the most important thing is we don't let that top three become a Democrat.
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Clay Travis
Top two, we're talking to Steve Hilton running for governor of California. Ballots go out, as you just heard from him, in just a few weeks, and the actual primary is on June 3rd. You're campaigning all over California. We taught. We not only have talked about Eric Swalwell, but the situation in Iran. There are more expats from with Iranian backgrounds in the LA area probably than anywhere else in the country. I'm curious, what are you hearing about Iran in California when you're out on the campaign trail?
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Steve Hilton
It's a hugely energizing factor. I mean, there's, you know, I don't know the exact number, but like hundreds of thousands. Over a million across the state. Half a million. Louisiana is the largest city outside Iran of Iranians. It's a really, really big community here. Very powerful, very important voice in our state and in politics. All now 100% pretty much lined up behind President Trump, appreciative of what he's done. And I see it all over. I was actually last Sunday, before the President's endorsement, I was at a major Iranian event for the end of New Year Nowruz in the Bay Area. Fantastic reception there, where I made the point that, you know, I'm not in. I don't know what's going to happen in Iran, but we are certainly fighting for regime change here in California, making that connection, and it's really powerful. Elliot, we've got two major events with the Iranian community in L. A just coming up in the next couple of weeks. It's a very, very big part of the story.
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Buck Sexton
What are the dominoes, politically speaking? We're speaking to Steve Hilton, everybody. He's running for governor in California. Republicans in California. Now is your chance to step up and try to change things. He says regime change in California, which is a very good way to put it. What are the dominoes, Steve, that have to fall in your favor for this to go from you at the top of the pack to you winning the governor's mansion? I mean, you know, is it some concession from the police union? Is it independent voters in the California interior? I mean, just take us through a little bit of what has to happen for you to actually win this thing.
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Steve Hilton
Top of that list is a really strong Republican turnout, because actually, if you look at the numbers, I make this point all the time. If you just try and project the turnout in the November election here in California by taking an average of the last two, 2018 and 2022. The total number of votes as an estimate is 11.7 million. That's the total. So to win, you need just over half of that. Call it 5.9 million. President Trump in California in 2024 got 6.1 million votes. In other words, there are enough Republican votes in California for me to win just with Republican votes if they all turn out now. Of course, it's very hard, it's not easy to get a presidential year turnout in a midterm election. But that's the starting point. And we've got two very, very powerful things going in our favor for that. Because on the ballot this November in California as well as all the candidates, will be two ballot initiatives that Republicans particularly are enthusiastic about. Number One is Save Prop 13. That's a taxpayer protection measure, particularly on property taxes. And the big one really is voter id. So whatever happens with the Save America act in California, we'll have the chance to vote for voter ID this November. That's a real turnout driver among Republicans. So that's going to be very important. But beyond that, of course, we want to build our support beyond the Republican turnout. And we, and I think that my simple message, which is, you know, you can capture it in one word, that's what we've been doing, taking up and down the state califordable, making our state califordable with a very specific plan. $3 gas, cut your electric bills in half, your first hundred grand tax free. No more free health care for illegal immigrants. So we lower health care costs for you, A home you can afford to buy. That goes way beyond party lines. It's just common sense, pragmatic, positive, practical stuff. And I think that's how we're going to win.
- [11:46]
Clay Travis
Do you think there will be any more funny business? You mentioned Tom Stier potentially as the candidate behind coming after Swalwell. Katie Porter has had a bunch of videos come out of her looking awful. She's also got the boiling water and potatoes poured on her ex husband's head story. Not exactly a very likable person. How much more funny business do you think is coming in this race?
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Steve Hilton
Yeah, there's a lot of expectation that Katie Porter is next because there really is this assumption that Tom Stier has been behind this and that there's plenty more to come out on Katie Porter. So I'm sure she's stealing herself for that. We'll see what it is, whether it's different or just more of the same that we've seen from her. My argument is it honestly doesn't matter who they send because we're sick of these people, this corrupt Democrat machine. On the policy front, it's a total disaster. We've got the highest poverty rate, highest unemployment rate, highest cost of living in the country. None of them offer any kind of change from what we've had. And so in a way, it doesn't matter. But I don't know. I think we're probably going to see Tom Steyer splashing more of the cash. You know, he's already spent, as I said, Over 100 million, is probably going to double that in the next month or so, including some dirty tricks on Katie. That's what I'd expect.
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Buck Sexton
Can I just ask you to bring us up to speed on something? You're talking about regime change in California, which I love, and you're talking about making things affordable for people, which might stop. I got to say, I don't know if I want that to happen in some ways because you're just driving up the Florida housing prices so much. And as an owner down here now, I'm loving all these Californians who show up like I'll pay anything. I just, I just need to escape the madness. But to give people a sense of how this is all actually going in your state, bring us up to speed with the latest on the Palisades fire and the LA Wildfire rebuilding situation. Because I remember Gavin Newsom saying, we're going to pull all that red tape aside. We're going to make this so easy. It's going to be like a Swiss watch, I'm hearing. Not so much. Steve, how's that going?
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Steve Hilton
Nothing. In fact, one of the Iranian events that we're going to be holding in the next couple of weeks is in the Palisades in the ruins of a house that hasn't been rebuilt because no permit. You know, it's just unbelievable. You go, there's something, a little bit of construction going on. But what's really outrageous is the fact that they are absolutely using it to push the ideological agenda of replacing a beautiful single family neighborhood with apartment buildings, low income apartment buildings. That is what they're pushing. And so there is this sense that these people are just ideologues who absolutely don't care about just doing what the basic job of government should be, which is get out the way, provide the basics so that people can live their lives. No, they're constantly pushing this ideological agenda. So in a way, it's now worse than the incompetence of not issuing the permits and of course the incompetence that led to the fire in the first place. It's the actual exploitation of this for an ideological agenda to change the character of the Palisades that's got people so enraged. And I'm seeing it in the events we're doing in L. A. There's one this week which is. It's an event that we're doing which is mainly Democrats, including some very surprising people who've been completely lockstep with the Democrat supporters and fundraisers and donors for many, many years coming along to my hosting and holding events for me in la. There's something going on in California. I really feel it more and more every week that people are sick of what's been happening. And I think the Swalwell thing just adds to that. They're just disgusted by it, honestly. And oh my gosh, these people have been in power too long. Time for change. It's going to be very powerful feeling. And then. But one thing I haven't even mentioned, which is the fraud. The fraud story is huge in California and that's why the whole. I just had on my podcast John Coupol, who's the president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association. Some people might Remember back in 1978, it was called the taxpayer revolt in California and it led to a ballot initiative, Prop 13, that put a limit on tax increases and property tax in particular. I feel like we're heading for another taxpayer revolt in California. As people see we pay the highest taxes in the country for the worst results. And now you see where your money's going, siphoned off into fraud and theft and financing the Democrat political machine. People are really fired up and enraged by that. That's going to be a big factor as well.
- [16:20]
Clay Travis
Good stuff as always. We encourage you to get out and Vote Steve Hilton, three weeks from now. Ballots are out. June 3rd is the primary. We appreciate the time. Keep up the fight.
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Steve Hilton
Great to be with you guys. See you soon.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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- [17:42]
Buck Sexton
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Clay, a lot of interesting stuff there from Steve Hilton, the man of the mo. Moment here stepping up in California. With Swalwell being pushed aside, we're going to get into a bunch of your calls and talk backs and everything else. I didn't know Tom. He thinks it's Tom Steyer behind the scenes. That was a, that was a change.
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Clay Travis
I didn't expect that either.
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Buck Sexton
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Steve Hilton
All right.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got a lot of calls, a lot of talk backs, a lot of things here. Clay, who who on the live calls did you want to get to straight away? You've got the live call screen in front of you. There's.
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Caller
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
The live score. The live call screen has been flawless for two and a half hours and legitimately is now not up. But.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, that sounds about right for live radio. Nice. Let's do some talkbacks maybe then. What do you think?
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Clay Travis
If we could pull back up my call screener so that I can type people up and let them in. We do have a ton of talkbacks.
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Buck Sexton
Tom and Wait. Tom and Tampa is the first call. Let's do Tom and Tampa because he's waiting patiently. Go ahead. Tomorrow.
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Caller
Yeah. Hey. Hey, Clay. Buck, I've got two very, very important points. I wanted to just reinforce Clay's original point about that with the uranium dust, there could be some sort of deal behind the scenes with the Iranians where Delta goes in and takes it, but Iran can save face. And the historical precedent for that, and I'm sure Clay probably knows this, Buck, you probably do, too, being CIA, is that there was a secret deal with President Kennedy behind the scenes with. With the Soviet Union to pull the Jupiter missiles out of Turkey. So there's a historical precedent for this. And the second part, which dovetails off my first point, this is very, very important, is that President Trump, with Maria Bartiromo, I believe it was yesterday, did confess that we know exactly where the dust is and we're looking at it through satellite technology. Now, whether any of that's true or not, I'm not going to comment on, but I am going to tell you that the one point feeds into the second point and really reinforces Clay's original theory, if that makes sense.
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Clay Travis
Thank you for the.
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Buck Sexton
That's very interesting. I appreciate that. I think the. I think the Jupiter missile Turkey analogy is unfortunately kind of miles away from where we are. It is a. It is a backdoor, backroom agreement to do something. But this is. The Iranian regime considers its nuclear pro. We have gone through this for over 20 years. The whole point is they will not relent on this issue.
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Steve Hilton
It would be.
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Buck Sexton
To have an equivalent. It would have to be that the Soviets agreed to give up their nuclear program, which they would obviously not have done. So there's no way the Iranians are going to say, you know what? Come and take our stuff, and we'll pretend like, oh, no, don't take our stuff, but, like, we really want you to take our stuff. The only. Because, Clay, if they were willing to do that, then I think they'd be willing to just come up with a deal. They'd be more willing to at least extend things out and be less bellicose about all this. Yeah, we'd be hearing about it if they were reasonable. I don't think these are reasonable people we're dealing with. On the other side, the speaker of the Iranian Parliament, the Majlis, the, the national, I mean the, what's his name, Foreign Minister. I don't think that these guys are doves. I don't think they want this to go away.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I think the, the way to think through it is they are, I think you said earlier they might well get killed if they allow, give up the uranium, give up the pursuit of nuclear ambition. So my sort of thesis on this is the way we saved the airmen. We had to build a brand new landing strip, we had to protect the surrounding penumbra surrounding this guy, dropping bombs, air superiority, all of those things. It's a rough test potentially for what might be necessary to extract the uranium. And President Trump said earlier, either they give it up or we take it, referring to the so called nuclear dust. If that is the standard, both you and I agree they're not going to voluntarily hand it over. And so that leaves us with the option of we go and take it. I think President Trump likes the cinematic aspects of this and it would serve as a repudiation of the entire WMD search in Iraq, which never actually uncovered any weapons of mass destruction. And it would represent a clear climatic end to the incidents that are taking place in Iran. So that is what I think is maybe the most likely outcome when all is said and done. There are reports, by the way, that behind the scenes negotiations continue with Iran. And as we began the show today, the newest update on the ground there is that the blockade is now in force, in theory, in, in the Strait of Hormuz. I should also point out the price of oil and gas has actually come down today and that also suggests that there is some form of expected settlement or there's just not a panic setting in because a lot of people said, oh my goodness, when Trump is putting in the fact that he's going to come after the straight of Hormuz, oh my goodness, the price of oil and gas is going to skyrocket today. It is up some today, but not in a massive way. And it's at the lows of the day right now, right around 92, 85 is what I see right now as I am checking the price of oil and gas down from, I think it got up to 120 in the early days of these interactions, and it hasn't gone up very much today. So stock market, by the way, up Overall S P500 now in positive territory for the year. So there does not seem to be, Buck, any sort of substantial panic that is setting in over. Over all of these aspects. Let's play cut 41 here for those of you. Well, that's a long cut, but that's
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Buck Sexton
a little too long. That's a little too long. We can't.
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Clay Travis
It's like nine minutes. I understand she's that video that went viral that maybe we can shorten the Katie Porter clip that went viral back in the day. And the Tom Stier situation. I don't know how this is going to go, Candy, in Texas. Cut. J. Be careful. Here we go. Talk back.
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Caller
I once had someone send me a wiener pick. And what was the most embarrassing part for the guy was it took me
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Clay Travis
a good five minutes to figure out
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Caller
what the picture was of.
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Steve Hilton
Whoa.
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Clay Travis
Oh, I don't know, Candy. This is a. We were talking about the challenge associated with Swalwell and his future. I think that one of the interesting parts about Swalwell, Buck, is the number of people that said incredibly positive things about him until this story from the San Francisco Chronicle came out and everybody ran for the hills, including, including Ruben Gallego, who is rumored to be a presidential candidate and was best buds pictured riding on camels with Eric Swalwell in the Middle East. And then as soon as this story comes out, he is absolutely sprinting in the opposite direction, claiming that he never had any idea about this. And I think the idea from Steve Hilton that Tom Steyer was the guy behind all of this is interesting because Tom Stier referred to Covid, for those of you who have forgotten, as Trump's Katrina. And I think we have Tom Stier saying that in the cuts right now, Trump is incompetent.
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Caller
He is doing a terrible job on this. Mr. Trump is way late. He has no capability. He's incompetent. I think this is a huge, huge deal because this is like George W. Bush with the hurricane and flooding down in New Orleans. A total executive failure by an incompetent executive.
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Clay Travis
Now, this is interesting to me, Buck, because Biden got almost a full year advance to figure out what he was going to do about COVID because Covid obviously hit in February, March 2020. Biden did not come into office until late January 2021. And as. As bad as I thought Trump did in March and April of 2020, dealing with COVID Biden was infinitely worse, even with a full one year run up. And remember, the only reason they stopped making us wear masks was not anything Biden did. It was the one judge down in Florida who they finally just decided not to fight against her.
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Buck Sexton
Some people are saying the greatest judge among all judges. She was a beautiful. She's a beauty. She stopped the masks on planes. I love her forever. I will love that woman. I'd never met her. I don't even know her, but I love her. What was her name again?
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Clay Travis
Meiselle.
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Buck Sexton
Am I going to get Mizel? Oh, Judge Meiselle. Honestly, I really mean this. A true American legal hero. I think an American legal hero. We would stop wearing masks on the planes because people are morons.
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Clay Travis
The Biden base was so crazy about masks that they needed a judge to just strike it down. And I believe she was a federal district judge. Just issued an individual opinion, one of the most consequential district court opinions we've seen a long time, and just said, hey, this masking requirement is basically absurd. And remember, they had the audio of people announcing it on the airplane and people celebrating, like, ripping their masks off on a bunch of different airlines back in the day.
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Buck Sexton
Also, Katrina is very similar to Covid in that the media was able to manufacture a whole lot more politicized rage than was really warranted. Bush declared a disaster in it. He declared it a disaster. I believe even in advance of Katrina, he. He was. Within 24 hours or so, they had the, you know, they. They had a massive deployment of. Of active duty troops, 7,000 active duty troops, 21,000 National Guard deployed, US Coast Guard federal assets, $10.5 billion emergency aid package within days of landfill. Like, but the whole Bush thing was. Kanye said. Let's just be honest, Kanye said, george Bush doesn't care about black people. And then the media, that just became the thing that was their whole thing. The reality was, you know, where there was incompetence, you know who the idiots were when it came to Katrina, State and local officials. This is reality. Go back and look at the record. The people who weren't ready, who didn't have preparations, who didn't have clear lines of command and control. Yeah, you can always say that FEMA wasn't. You know, FEMA is a federal bureaucracy. It's not great. But in terms of what a president can do, Clay, I just want everyone to know this. Everyone goes, oh, that's so. And so's Katrina. It's a little bit like people with. With McCarthy and the list of. Yeah, There were a lot of communist penetrations of the government, my friends. That's reality. Do you know that? Did they tell you that in school? There were. They were all Democrats, too. That's why they don't tell you that in school. So this becomes a thing, you know, the Red scare. Actually, there were a lot of Reds. And actually Bush did not do a terrible job in Katrina. It was a once in a century storm situation with state and local Democrats being total idiots. And they blamed it on Bush because they made it a race issue. That's really what happened. Just saying. You won't hear that anywhere else, but it is all the truth. You can go check it yourself.
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Clay and buck have your back.
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Clay Travis
Appreciate all of you hanging out. Let's see Pete in Oklahoma. Fire away.
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Caller
Hi, guys. Love the show. Listen every day rolling up and down the highways. You were talking earlier about the, you know, the nuclear dust over there. We need to how we're going to get it, how we're going to go in and get that. Also talking about the midterms, you know, and things may get dicey. People get nervous about it. I was just thinking Trump could maybe do a little head fake and, you know, play nice for a little while with the Iranians and maybe let them Go in and do all this heavy lifting and excavate the area and then seize it after they've done all the work.
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Clay Travis
Thank you for the call. I think what they've said and thank you for listening is that we have constant visual ability to survey those areas and that if they start to touch anything, we'll go in and blow them up again. So I think that is the threat that is out there right now as it pertains to those sites that we hit back in June. Joe in North Florida, retired colonel, thanks for listening.
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Caller
So, yeah, hi guys. We love you. You're, you're wonderful. I, in my Air Force career did some international dealings with various cats and dogs. And one of the rules that you must follow is the basic three steps. One, never trust a communist. Two, never trust a left wing Islamist and three, never trust a left wing American. And if you do those, all your negotiations will go very well, as well as your interpersonal relationships. But almost everything on your show in the last week or two has been because somebody violated one of those basic rules.
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Clay Travis
It's a great call, A lot of truth to it. Thank you, Joe. Thanks for the service as well. Colonel Mike in Salt Lake City. Fire away, Mike.
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Caller
Hey guys, one of the things that you talked about with your reigns is that these people are crazy. They're nutty. And having as a guy, former special operations holder to spend a bunch of time over there in that general region of the world, they're not freaking crazy, okay? They're cunning. They're absolutely cunning. But here's something I think you missed, is that irgc, when they decapitated everyone, IRGC is now running that country, okay? So you've got mid level guys that are probably very, very guilty of war crimes against their own people. And if that place falls, those guys get the bottom of a rope and they know it. So they literally have no place to go. So they're gonna, they're gonna drag this out as much as they can, make it as painful hope that we don't topple that regime because they realize when it gets toppled, those people who they, their own people that they butchered are going to come back for them. So I, I don't think they're crazy by a long shot. And I've dealt with people in that region a bunch. I think that they're cunning and I think that they have literally no place else to go. A handful might be able to flee to Russia.
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Steve Hilton
The rest of them screwed.
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Buck Sexton
I look, I think that's all very astute. Thank you for calling in Mike. Appreciate it. I would just say, Clay. Yeah. When we say crazy, I mean it's really a way of saying they have different, different risk tolerance and outcomes desired than we do in this. In profound ways. And they view things, you know, I mentioned before. Okay, well, how do you describe people who are willing to deploy people as human minefield clearers, which is what Iran did during the Iran Iraq War. Now I know that was a little while ago, but I'm saying how do you describe people? Yeah, a suicide bomber has a plan in mind. I think we profoundly disagree with the plan and also what they think is going to come in the afterlife from. But you know, this is. You are dealing with people who have an entirely disconnected or very different value set and ethics. When you're talking about the Iranian leadership, they have very different ethics than we do. Just like Hamas and Israel have very different ethics. Right. Crazy is kind of a catch all term in a lot of ways.
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Clay Travis
Podcast listener. I agree. Mike from Las Vegas. Buck, you were talking about sports as sort of the security blanket. We played on that on Friday. I think Mike is reacting to that
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Buck Sexton
playing Buck, this is Mike from Las Vegas. The sports therapy thing is very true.
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Clay Travis
I remember in April of 2020 listening to Clay on Outkick on Fox Sports Radio and him saying that this is the longest April and May of all time with his old crew. Listen to Clay since 2017, the old outkick days of he was actually a guest on the Jay Moore sports show. And I remember thinking, who the heck
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Buck Sexton
is this guy talking about these very interesting ideas. And I followed you ever since.
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Caller
So thanks a lot, Clay and Buck.
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Buck Sexton
I just want to go back and listen to these old episodes of you, Clay. So I could hear guys call in like, clay, the team's letting me down. But I'm wondering something. Do you ever feel like your dad should have taken you fishing more?
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Clay Travis
I do remember. You remember how long those days in March and April of 2020 felt like? I mean, those days seem like they lasted months. We'll be back with all of you tomorrow.