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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show Buck with his family for the remainder of the week on A Little Bit of a Summer Get Away. I've got you for the rest of today and tomorrow we'll be back together on the Monday edition of the program. Senator Tim Tim Scott going to join me at the bottom of the hour. If you're out there right now and you would like to hear the first couple of hours of the program, we had Senator Marsha Blackburn who just announced yesterday she is running for governor of Tennessee on with us at 12:30 Eastern. At 1:30 Eastern Michael Whatley from North Carolina was on with us. And like I said, Senator Tim Scott will be on with us at the bottom of the hour. Right before the show started to thank you for taking us over a hundred thousand subscribers on the Clay and Buck YouTube channel, I did a book review segment that is only going to be up on YouTube and I'll give you a little bit of a preview of that. So many of you are interested in good American history, good books to read. So I gave two book reviews and I'm just going to mention them here. You guys know I love reading about a history, American history in particular. I am reading the Fate of the Day, which is volume two of the American Revolution trilogy. I'm holding it up just so you can see the COVID It's incredible. I'm about halfway through it. If you want to hear me talk about it more, you can go to the YouTube channel. That video will be up. Gonna try to do fun things there that are not airing on the radio program. I also told you, hey, if you're a mystery thriller kind of person, which I am, I usually have a nonfiction book going at the same time as a fiction book and I read whichever I'm in the mood for. I've mentioned this on the show before, but I just finished Mick Herron, who is a London based thriller spy, espionage writer, eight of them, the Slow Horses television version. Maybe some of you have seen this on Apple tv. I am told it is really good. I have never watched it but I can tell you these books are great. There are eight of them. I love mysteries, thrillers. I grew up reading initially the Hardy Boys and then it led into Sue Grafton and Robert Parker and James Lee Burke. And so anyway, if you are a, a thriller reader, Patricia Cornwell, you, you name, you guys know all of these Alex Cross series, all of these, you know I gave you good reviews for those and we're gonna do some fun things on YouTube. So you will be able to dive in there. Uh, okay. We got people who want to react. And for those of you who want to get your popcorn out, I, uh, we led into a discussion about how almost all issues in America today, in my opinion, if you had to go to one root cause, absent fathers, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, absent fathers, I think, lead to violent crime. And this actually wasn't planned, but it came out of a email that Beau, one of our VIP readers, wrote in saying, hey, if we really want to go after violent crime rates, let's prosecute parents more often. And I said, my concern there is that actually dads are absent and you would end up going after mom or grandma or maybe even grandpa who were trying to fill in for the absent dad. And the person who's the most responsible for everything that is going on will not be held accountable. And so that was my concern. And let me hit you with this because I mentioned that I was going to discuss it earlier right before I take your calls. President Trump has demanded that there be a new census done. And I've talked about this a lot on the program. Maybe we'll dive into this a bit more tomorrow. But basically red states would be on tap to add 10 house seats if the census had been done correctly. And Republicans would add 10, Democrats would lose 10, Florida would add four seats. Texas would add four seats. California would lose three, New York would lose two overall. And that's going to play in big in the electoral College by the time we get to 2032. But they screwed up 2020, so they really should redo the census and that is what President Trump has called for. And we will dive into some of that tomorrow. But again, go subscribe to the YouTube. You can check out all original content that is going up there. VIP email from Eric. Black dad out there. Let me start with this. I was fortunate to have my dad in the home as a kid and my kids have the same good fortune. You are spot on about lbg, LBJ and the Great Society. The government dictates on the programs essentially force dads out in order to access the so called benefits. Never have a people paid such a high price for a block of cheese. Larry Elder, Deroy Murdoch and Jason Riley have written and spoken extensively on this subject. They challenge the black people out there who've been brainwashed by the liberal culture to wake up, grow up and man up. Uh, it's good email from Eric and I appreciate it. I'm glad he's being a good dad. Look, it's Easy to try to racialize this. And I try to avoid doing that. I got an email and I'll read the email. I'm not going to tell you who wrote it because I'm not going to put him on. Not going to put him on blast. But he said. He said, why are you not talking about the fact that this is a huge problem for. For black men and nobody will talk about it for black men and black families? And you're being a coward because you're not focusing enough on race as it pertains to this issue. Um, and I'm looking at that email from him right now. I don't think that's helpful. Honestly. It wouldn't make me feel better as a white dad if the white crime rate was 0 and the black crime rate was 100. I wouldn't take glee in that. I wouldn't take enjoyment in that. If the Hispanic crime rate was 0 and the white crime rate was 100, I wouldn't be like, man, that's great. Go Hispanic people. White people, man, you're the problem. I don't think you racialize a problem. I think you actually then divide people. What I would argue is kids without dads is a huge American issue. White, black, Asian, Hispanic. Now, I do think that there is a socioeconomic component to this. In this larger context. I think the government tried to replace poor dads with the government. And there's a line, and I think there's some truth to it. You can racialize the line, but the way I would put it is when rich people get a cold, poor, poor people get pneumonia. If you're black, you probably heard before, when white people get a cold, black people get pneumonia. It is true when rich people have small problems, poor people get big problems. And so I think you have to be careful when you put government policies in place. This is, to me, the essence of Democrat politics. They sit around from their gated mansions and they think, oh, my goodness, you know, the real problem with crime in America is the police. We should take them away. This is Zoran Mandami, right? All the people with money, they've got protection. Mom, Donnie goes down to Uganda. He's got a security detail following him everywhere. He's not worried about crime happening to him because he's rich enough to have his own security. You ever notice that none of those politicians who called to defund the police ever gave up their own personal security details? Well, wait a minute. If you think all of us should give up police, how come you need them? That's A really good question, isn't it? So many people in America, they talk left and they live right. All those media that right at the New York Times, they're married, raising their kids. Their kids oftentimes go to private schools. They live in gated communities. Everybody lecturing you on msnbc. Nuclear families. They want a mom at home. They want a dad at home. They want to have security for their kids. They want private school choice for their kids. Why do they lecture you from a left perspective and then live like the most conservative person on the planet in their own life? Because the best way to raise a family is a nuclear family. Mom, dad, both at home with kids. This is what the data says. They all know it. They want it for their own families. But if you try to say, hey, we should do this more, hey, maybe we should put policies in place that actually make dads more likely to be at home. As soon as you raise that issue, oh, suddenly they don't want to have that conversation. So a lot of you want to weigh in. Let me hit some of these calls. Appreciate that. VIP email. And let's see here. Who should we go to first? Guys, it's Ralph in Cincinnati. Ralph, what you got for us?
Clay Travis
Hey, brother.
Caller
How are you, man?
Buck Sexton
I'm fantastic.
Caller
So I think we're looking beyond the obvious. And it's not a black or white thing, Hispanic, Asian, or. Or even a money thing, because there's a lot of very wealthy people who've divorced and the mother automatically gets the kids. And then we hear the stories about their kids driving very expensive cars and killing their friends. So let's just avoid the monetary thing. I'm going to ask you a question. You're a lawyer and you have a lot of colleagues that went into family law. I think the perpetuation of divorce lines their pockets. The thing is, I'm dealing with it myself. I want 50, 50 time with my kid. I don't want more than 50, 50. That would be unfair. Automatically. The mothers always get custody regardless. So if we're going to talk about fatherless homes, we need to dig deeper. Some of us fathers want to be involved. Some of us fathers want to take care of our boys. We're not allowed to. So in Ohio, twice the Senators of the Republic of the Congress, whoever pitched this concept, and both times, it was the Ohio Bar association that shot it down. Why? Because that's their income. How many of your colleagues went directly to family practice? Some of them were criminal, but then they went through their divorce and saw how much they paid an Attorney and said, well, I got to get my money back. So I just want to give a shout out to dads out there that want to be in their kids lives. Don't give up. Keep fighting. There's a huge movement happening right now. It's kind of underground even in Britain. This is a global thing. There's a movement called Parents Against People Against Parental Alienation. There's a young man in the United States who started a website called tuf, the Unmarried Father. Those guys suffer the worst. Are there guys out there that don't want to be in the family? Sure. Were they baby trapped? Maybe. Did they hook up one night and get a girl pregnant? Maybe. We don't know. But there's a lot more of us out there that want to be in our kids lives, but we're already labeled deadbeats just because we're not in the house.
Buck Sexton
Thank you for the call. No, it's a great call. Look, I don't. This is why, in general, I think any dad that is fighting to be involved in his kid's life should be involved in his kid's life. Right. His or her kid's life. And I think that there are tons of things in the divorce universe that we have created that incentivizes divorce and often alienates parents in both directions. Right. I think there is a religious component to this. I mentioned that the great Society happens. I think also a decline in religion has led to less men as heads of households and less men who are expecting to take on the responsibility. But I think in a divorce context, in an ideal situation, kids would get 50% of time with their dad and 50% of times with their mom. General rule, okay? Now, I don't want to dive into everybody's individual divorce story. Uh, but I do think that one of the cons. Let me just say this as a lawyer. One of the consequences of no fault divorce, right? Which is this idea of, hey, there's nobody at fault, we just don't want to be married anymore. Is that sometimes fault matters. Right. We typically don't have no fault car accidents.
Caller
Right?
Buck Sexton
Right. Just think about it. Most people don't want to get into a car accident, but if you had a cheap car and you could just run into a Jaguar and you got rewarded because you intentionally caused some sort of an issue, the courts would look at you askance. They would say, well, you're more responsible for this. And that's the whole point of like traffic law. Right? Hey, who did the? Who did the. When you say, nobody's at fault. A part of me is of the opinion that fault does matter. It's very rare that 50% male, 50% female is the reason for the divorce. And I'm talking about the financial side, not so much the child and the parenting side. But I do think there should be substantial family court processes that would actually go to making things better. I'll take some more of your calls when I come back. But I do have empathy and sympathy for dads out there that are trying to be involved in their kids lives that feel like the entire apparatus of the court system is slanted in favor of the moms and they can't actually do anything to help raise their kids. That is very frustrating and I have a great deal of empathy for anybody involved in that process. So many of us have been victim of identity theft or know someone who has it's important to understand how cybercrime and identity theft are affecting our lives. LifeLocks online identity theft protection is your best defense. LifeLock will detect and alert you to potential identity threats you may not spot on your own like loans taken out in your name or charges racked up on credit cards. There's no police force for this kind of thing. That's why having LifeLock can be a game changer. Become a Lifelock member if you aren't already. You can save 40% off your first year with promo Code Clay. Get hooked up right now. That's lifelock.com promo code clay. You can also call 1-800-LIFELOCK. Go online to lifelock.com use my name clay as the promo code for 40% off. That's lifelock.Com code clay for 40% off news and politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in. By the way, here's the email I got from a listener. And I appreciate you're not always going to agree with everything I say, but I do think this is what I was referencing. Everything you're talking about on the show related to violent crime in every city, especially the Capitol, is overwhelmingly blacks. No one wants to address that elephant in the room. No one has the balls to say it on national radio. I'm tired of hearing about mobs and teens. It's blacks almost every time. Stop calling them mobs that beat that white lady half to death. They were blacks almost every time. Uh, okay. I don't care who commits violent crime. I understand that perspective, but this is what I was saying. It wouldn't make me feel better if Hispanic people beat that lady half to death or Asian people beat that lady half to death. Or white people did. When you focus on a race, it makes it seem like you don't care about the issue at all or you expect the issue to be solved only by the people who are having the problem. To me, that's not American. The goal of America should be to solve problems for all of us. Because I don't want anybody to be a victim of a violent crime crime, whether it's a 16 year old black kid in Chicago or a 43 year old mom in Cincinnati, or a 26 year old Hispanic kid in, in, in Phoenix. I want violent crime to be negligible for everybody. So when you wag your finger and say, oh, it's just those people doing that thing, you're not solving the problem. It's actually just you claiming it isn't an issue because somebody has a different color skin than you. I don't think that solves the problem. And I'm not trying to get on a high horse and lecture everybody. But violent crime in America should be considered a problem for everyone. And I don't think President Trump's only trying to solve the issue in Washington D.C. because of the race people are involved there. It's because he wants our nation's capital be a shining city on a hill like I do. You do. And I think everybody of every race does. You want to use radios to be able to get in touch. I use rapid radios. Get in touch with my 10 year old, don't have a cell phone for him yet, but they are incredibly cool to use. I'm about to hop in a car, drive down to Atlanta, go to Atlanta Braves games with my kids. We're going to have the rapid radios in the car because my kids like to get on them and they use them back and forth and they think it's pretty cool. It's also great for catastrophes, great for difficult situations. Out there you can get an incredible deal. Go to rapid radios.com use code radio 60% off. Put them, make them a part of your life. Rapid Radios.com code radios. Welcome back in Clay Travis BUCK SEXTON SHOW Join my join now by Senator Tim Scott. He's got a new book, One Nation Always Under God Profiles in Christian Courage. And senator, I appreciate you coming on with me. I believe that part of the motivation for this book, according to my team, was you seeing Harrison Butker, who was a is a field goal kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs, speaking out about faith and his family relationships. Why did that strike you to such a degree and then did that help to motivate you to write this book?
Clay Travis
You know, certainly I see the attack on Christianity in our country all over the place. And certainly his story got so much press. I just kept thinking to myself, why is it okay to attack the very foundation of the greatest nation on earth and what we were founded upon? And I just, I find it to be just utterly ridiculous, Clay on the attacks that Christianity has to endure. And I wanted to do something that highlighted and celebrated strong profiles and Christian courage. Why our country is the greatest country on the planet is because of men and women who responded to a call and in their heart to make something and someone better outside of themselves. And I am so thankful that we have professional athletes, rare these days, who take a strong stand for faith, not just at the microphone after a game, but literally giving a speech that they wanted to literally take tiny pieces out of that speech and find a way to make fun of him and condemn his fate. Utterly ridiculous to me.
Buck Sexton
I don't know if you've heard any of the program. Probably not. You're kind of a busy guy. But we've ended up talking quite a lot today about the decline of fathers. And I think it in the family household and I think it ties in with the book that you are writing because one reason that might be happening is an absence of religion and a lot of young men are honestly going back to church. Now, I don't think you're a dad yet, but I'VE got three boys. I think all the time about how to raise them to be strong, good parents. Why do you think we're struggling to such an extent with young men? And how do we get black, white, Asian, Hispanic dads back in the family raising strong young men?
Clay Travis
Well, Clay, I think one of the reasons why President Trump has endorsed the book One Nation Always Under God is because I focus really on that subject matter by telling my own story of growing up in a single parent household. And what you just said, Clay, is so important. It was so casual when you said it, but it was powerful in my ears. One of the scriptures I'm really excited about is Proverbs 27:17 that says iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens the other. The best way to do that, Clay, is to have a father in the household. You just said very casually that you are there for your three sons. 72 to 74%, the numbers escape me of African American boys do not have their father in the household. 40% of of white working class families don't have a father in the household. That does not tell about the future we want in this nation. And so you covering fatherhood and the importance of a male role model in the house is undeniably the most important thing we can do to get this nation back on track. Except for faith. Faith is the foundation. Family is the most powerful single unit in the nation. Upon those two, you build an objective standard, you apply it to faith fairly to everyone. You get a flourishing country called America without that very important building block called the family. We as a nation, we don't work and we don't work without a faith filled foundation upon which all things stand. So I can spend as much time as you want to on the importance that a father plays in the household. I just became a dad, Clay, just a year ago of three kids that I've inherited by getting married. And I got to tell you, it changes your focus to the future. It reminds you of the importance of a value system and it underscores why one nation always under God and these profiles and Christian courage is something that has as much to do about the future as it illuminates the past.
Buck Sexton
One of the things that we talked about is pre. You think about things only getting better in the country, right? That's the goal. We want everybody's generation to be better than it was before. But you and I, if we went back to 1950, you just ran through some of those statistics. White, black, Asian, Hispanic. I know there would have been fewer Asian and Hispanic households, but certainly a lot of white and black households. Dad would have been home, right? 1950s America. Dad was home raising his kids. In general, I know there were exceptions. There's people out there listening. You yourself just said you didn't have a father in the household. This has been an issue that's gone on for a long time. How do you think we change it? Right? It. It's one thing if we were getting a little bit better every year, but this is one of those things where you look back and you say, boy, you know what? 70 years ago, kids growing up in America were more likely to have a dad in the household. What could we do? What should we do? I don't even see this as remotely political because I think every kid is way better off with a dad in the household. What should we be doing to encourage that?
Clay Travis
Well, number one, we need to remind men of their responsibility, not in fathering a child, but by raising that child. Such an important part of it, you know, if you think about what a father provides. For me, the lack of a father made me very disillusioned about who I would be growing up, what I could become, someone to teach me how to drive, how to shave. That person was absent, and it makes everything more difficult. I'm thankful that I became a Christian at a very young age and I found the father figure needed in understanding my heavenly Father. And as a result, I could go to Ephesians 2 and read about certain attributes or characteristics I would have. I could go to Galatians 3, 28 and see that I was adopted into this whole family called the Lord's family. But to make it practical in everyday American households, number one, the man needs to understand his responsibility. Number two, he needs to be present. The way that we encourage both, I think, is by reminding men of that importance. I spoke at a men's group about two Saturdays ago with a couple hundred men in the room, and I talked about, you can be a male without being a man. A male just tells you who you are. From a DNA perspective, being a man, there are attributes and characteristics that come with being a man. Being responsible, being accountable, being self sacrificing, serving, not just leading. These are characteristics of being a man. Being a male may be reproductive. It may be having a good time on Saturday nights, but not showing up on Sunday mornings. Being a man says, you show up Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday. It's Friday. It's 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365. That's how a Man becomes a father. A male does not necessarily do so.
Buck Sexton
The book is One Nation Always Under God, Profiles in Christian Courage. We're talking to Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina. All right, these are big issues. These are important issues. But I'm about to put you on the real hot seat. Who's gonna be better this year, South Carolina or Clemson?
Clay Travis
Listen, I know that the poll, I.
Buck Sexton
Can already tell that's a good politician answer to start with list. For those of you who don't know.
Clay Travis
Both.
Buck Sexton
Both. Let me tell people. South Carolina game costs, expect to be very good. Clemson Tigers also expect to be very good. The biggest rivalry in the state of South Carolina. Okay, that's the back backlog. Now you can dive in.
Clay Travis
Thank you, brother. I know the poll suggests that Clemson is going to be better. One poll has them at number six. They have South Carolina at 19. As a lifelong Gamecock fan, yes, I'm a crazy politician. I. I'm just going to tell you the truth and where I stand. The Gamecocks are going to have a better season. I know it. Because Shane Beamer, he's the man, the miff, and he will be the legend. And as a result of that, he will coach his team to a 93 record. And the Clemson Tigers, they're going to stumble a couple times and they will end up around 8 and 4, 8 and 3. The difference, of course, is we play in the SEC, they play in the ACC. We're not talking basketball, we're talking football.
Buck Sexton
That's actually. I thought you would dodge it. I didn't think you would pick a side, so I've been pressed. But I love Shane Beamer. Really good dude, the head coach at South Carolina. I also like Dabo, but I know Shane Beamer. Lenore Sellers, for those of you out there who do not know, fabulous quarterback for South Carolina. What should people know about him getting ready for about three weeks from now when Toby to leather.
Clay Travis
You know, interesting enough, he turned down more nil money stay at Carolina than he. Then he could have gotten like three to four million dollars more someplace else. That tells me, number one, he's a South Carolina boy, born and bred. Number two, he's committed, which is an unusual characteristic we'd like to see in fathers as well, by the way. And number three, he has a strong run game, but he's been improving his pass game. And that to me, is a quintessential quarterback. Can scramble, but thread the needle. I don't want him to run too much because that's how you get injured. I Want him to stay in the pocket, scramble a little bit and hit the receiver who's running a 10 and out or goal post. And when that happens, I think we'll have a good season. I know I was critical of my Clemson Tigers and I'm going to have some emails coming in, but I gotta just tell you, I love Dabo. Jim Clements is the best president, university president in all of America. Clemson's president. But at the end of the day, a man's got to be where a man has been his whole life. That's the Carolina Gamecocks.
Buck Sexton
You know, I actually think and I know there's a lot of politicians and I'm sure you've seen it in your career for sure who try to thread the needle and avoid picking a side. I actually think sports fans appreciate someone who picks aside more because the traditional politician tries to avoid it. Hey, I hope the book does really well. I appreciate you coming on with us. You got an open invite anytime you want to come on and keep up the fighting.
Clay Travis
Thank you, Clay. One Nation Always Under God Available right now at Amazon.
Buck Sexton
Amen. Go check it out. That is Senator Tim Scott. I'll take some of your calls, we'll react. Really good feedback so far during the course of the program. And I want to tell you I mentioned that dog days of summer are here. Do you want to have Joe Biden energy? That means, you know, they never let Biden walk on the roof of the White House. You know why? Cuz they were afraid that he might just tumble off. Maybe the Secret Service wouldn't have let him walk on the roof of the White House like Trump was. You guys know at any moment he could have tripped all over himself. Next thing you know he's dead, all falling off the roof of the White House. Guy can't even walk. Do you want Biden energy? Do you want people watching you thinking oh my goodness, is this guy gonna make it from one side of the room to another or do you want Trump energy? Get hooked up right now with chalk. You can have great energy. All natural. Testosterone is the engine that fuels the male body. Natural stack, you're gonna love it. They also have a female vitality stack. Again, all this is natural. What's the cost to you? You might as well try it as you move into the summer. New school year starting, you're chasing the kids or the grandkids around, you need a lot of energy. Get hooked up right now with chalk. C h o q.com Is that website? Use my name Clay. Lifetime subscription discount. That is my name clay chalk.com get hooked up today chalk.com my name clay go sign up right now. Want to be in the know when you're on the go the Team 47 podcast drop highlights from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton Show. My thanks to everybody out there who has joined us so far today. Marcia Blackburn, Michael Watley and Taylor Tim Scott. And those are really fun. You can go check them out on the podcast. You can also go check out our YouTube channel where I did I started off this hour, I believe, telling you about a mystery series espionage thriller, McCarron, why I liked it and the American Revolutionary book that I am watching. Inevitably I'm going to get emails saying hey, can you just email me individually and let me know about these books? Go to YouTube. It's right up there. You'll see me talking about it for 10 minutes. Me telling you what these books are, why I like them. YouTube only. So you have to go to the Clay and Buck YouTube page and you can see me giving you book recommendations there. We're going to be doing a bunch of fun, original things that are only taking place there. Okay. I thought we had a bunch of serious discussion. I appreciate it deluged with emails and calls and all of that, but I thought we could finish with some funny things here. You can also update me guys quickly here while we're playing these clips, if there's anybody still waiting. But first, this is Diana, Diana Diana Taurasi, whose name I probably Messed up. She is complaining that she was not paid enough money. This is, I would just say in general, I don't understand who advises the W N B A players, but boy, oh boy, every time they're interviewed, they manage to make themselves sound less likable. She says, hey, the janitor was making more money than me. This is unacceptable. Here she is.
Senator Tim Scott
I'm the best player in the world and I have to go to a communist country to get paid like a capitalist.
Buck Sexton
Playing in Europe during the WNBA's offseason, these women were going for seven or eight months. They were chasing their value.
Senator Tim Scott
One time I came back and I was like, man, my parents have just got gotten older and I've missed a big part of it. We weren't making that much money. So generational wealth was coming from going to Russia every year. Now we have to come back home and get paid nothing. To play in a harder league in worse conditions against the best competition in the world. The janitor at the arena made more than me.
Buck Sexton
Okay, I don't know if you heard there at the end. The effing janitor at the arena made more than me. The janitor is more valuable. His skill set, if that is true, is actually providing something that his employer values. The WNBA to this day has never made a dollar. Lecturing us that you are not being paid enough while demeaning what a janitor makes as if he's not worthy of his salary is not the way to convince me that I should be a fan of the wnba. It's as if they are doing exactly what they shouldn't be to try to build a bigger fan base. Pay us what you owe us. Well, actually, you would be paying the owners if that were the case because your league has never made money. I just, I. I don't get it. It is so tone deaf. But anyway, that is a new Amazon special. Go ahead and put it on your viewing list. This was CBS News, CBS this Morning. They had Neil Degrasse taught Tyson on. And he says that he's talking about colonizing the moon, which is kind of a fun science fictiony topic. And the guy who is interviewing him says, well, should we be worried about colonizing the moon because we know how awful colonialism worked out. This is real. This is what you heard if you were watching CBS this morning. Cut 26.
Clay Travis
If we want to keep growing a population or if we want to live forever, all right, we're going to need. We're going to need another planet.
Buck Sexton
So. So is that the moon? Because a. I Don't want to live on the moon. Right. Is it, Is it. Will it serve as a functional life source eventually for human beings? And B, we know how the age of colonialism worked on this planet. Should we be trying to colonize and saying that there's a keep out zone that not other countries can participate in?
Clay Travis
The real problem with the colonization history in Western civilization is that there are people already there.
Buck Sexton
Right?
Clay Travis
Right. There are no moon beings that were.
Buck Sexton
Displaced, as far as we know. I mean, can you imagine watching that? To start, first of all, I don't know who watches these morning shows because we played the clip where they said Sydney Sweeney is a Nazi. But can you imagine hearing the question, hey, should we really be interested in doing this? Because, hey, colonialism worked out poorly, by the way, the colonies is actually a really good thing. It's like nobody wants to discuss that. Bringing Western civilization to the rest of the world has actually benefited the rest of the world immensely. I'm actually very pro Western civilization. I think more people should be in favor of it publicly. Louis in Birmingham, Alabama. Let's close it out with him teeing off on me. Lewis, what you got?
Senator Tim Scott
Hey, Clay Lewis from Birmingham. WERC 105.5. I get tickled whenever I hear you try to pronounce things and you don't get it right. Today it was Addis Ababa, which is the capital of Ethiopia, not Adis. Whatever you said. Anyway. Oh, it gets me tickled. Anyway, big fan. Keep up the great work.
Buck Sexton
Thanks, Mike. Apologies, Ethiopia. This is an iHeart podcast.
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show Episode: Hour 3 - Talking Left and Living Right Release Date: August 7, 2025
In the third hour of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosted by iHeartPodcasts, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton delve deep into pressing societal issues, including the decline of fatherhood, violent crime, and the intersection of race and policy. The episode weaves through listener interactions, expert insights, and heated discussions, all underscored by the hosts' characteristic intelligence and humor.
Timestamp: [00:05]
Buck Sexton begins the hour by celebrating a milestone—over 100,000 subscribers on the show's YouTube channel. He introduces a book review segment exclusive to YouTube, highlighting his passion for American history and thrillers.
American History: Buck discusses The Fate of the Day, the second volume of an American Revolution trilogy, emphasizing its engaging narrative and historical significance.
"I'm halfway through it, and it's incredible." – Buck Sexton [00:05]
Thriller Literature: He praises Mick Herron's espionage series, recommending fans of the genre to explore Herron's work, particularly the adaptation of Slow Horses on Apple TV.
"These books are great. There are eight of them. I love mysteries, thrillers." – Buck Sexton [00:05]
Timestamp: [05:00 - 15:00]
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the root causes of rising violent crime rates in America, pinpointing absent fathers as a pivotal factor across all racial groups.
Absent Fathers as a Root Cause: Clay asserts that the absence of fathers—regardless of race—leads to increased violent crime.
"If you had to go to one root cause, absent fathers, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, absent fathers... lead to violent crime." – Clay Travis [05:00]
Listener Email from Eric: A VIP listener named Eric shares his perspective, agreeing with Clay's viewpoint and criticizing government policies that inadvertently discourage fatherhood.
"The government dictates on the programs essentially force dads out in order to access the so-called benefits." – Eric [08:00]
Timestamp: [16:11 - 20:40]
The conversation shifts to the sensitive topic of race and crime, sparked by a listener's email.
Buck's Response to Racialization: Buck criticizes the tendency to racialize crime statistics, arguing that focusing on race divides communities and detracts from solving the underlying issues.
"If the Hispanic crime rate was 0 and the white crime rate was 100, I wouldn't be like, man, that's great. Go Hispanic people." – Clay Travis [12:23]
"Violent crime in America should be considered a problem for everyone." – Clay Travis [17:12]
Timestamp: [10:05 - 16:11]
Ralph from Cincinnati calls in to discuss the systemic bias in family courts that favor mothers over fathers in custody battles.
Challenges Faced by Fathers: Ralph highlights the financial and emotional toll of custody battles, emphasizing the need for equitable sharing of parental responsibilities.
"The mothers always get custody regardless. So if we're going to talk about fatherless homes, we need to dig deeper." – Ralph [10:05]
Buck and Clay's Empathy: Both hosts express strong support for fathers striving to be involved in their children's lives, calling for reforms in the family court system.
"I have a great deal of empathy for anybody involved in that process." – Buck Sexton [13:54]
Timestamp: [17:12 - 28:02]
A segment featuring Diana Taurasi's complaint about inadequate pay in the WNBA serves as a springboard for discussing societal values and economic disparities.
Taurasi's Complaint: Diana Taurasi voices frustration over low wages, comparing her earnings to those of janitors.
"The janitor was making more money than me. This is unacceptable." – Diana Taurasi [35:08]
Hosts' Critique: Buck criticizes Taurasi's remarks, arguing that the WNBA's financial struggles are the root cause of the pay disparity.
"The WNBA to this day has never made a dollar. Lecturing us that you are not being paid enough... is not the way to convince me that I should be a fan of the WNBA." – Buck Sexton [35:20]
Timestamp: [30:46 - 30:40]
Senator Tim Scott joins the show to discuss his new book, One Nation Always Under God: Profiles in Christian Courage, emphasizing the role of fatherhood and faith in combating societal decline.
Importance of Father Figures: Senator Scott underscores the significance of male role models and faith in strengthening family structures.
"The best way to raise a family is a nuclear family. Mom, dad, both at home with kids. This is what the data says." – Senator Tim Scott [25:31]
Personal Reflections: He shares his personal journey into fatherhood and how it has reshaped his understanding of responsibility and value systems.
"I got to tell you, it changes your focus to the future. It reminds you of the importance of a value system." – Senator Tim Scott [25:31]
Timestamp: [27:24 - 30:46]
The hosts engage in a light-hearted debate over the upcoming South Carolina vs. Clemson football game, reflecting regional pride and playful rivalry.
Clay's Prediction: As a lifelong Gamecock fan, Clay confidently predicts South Carolina will have a better season under Coach Shane Beamer.
"The Gamecocks are going to have a better season. Shane Beamer... will coach his team to a 9-3 record." – Clay Travis [28:02]
Buck's Admiration for Coaches: Buck expresses his support for both coaches but ultimately sides with Clay's prediction.
"I love Shane Beamer... that's the Carolina Gamecocks." – Buck Sexton [29:12]
Timestamp: [32:27 - 38:56]
The episode wraps up with humorous clips and final interactions, maintaining the show's blend of serious discussion and levity.
CBS Morning News Clip: The hosts critique a segment on colonizing the moon, highlighting perceived flaws in the narrative surrounding Western colonialism.
"To start, first of all, I don't know who watches these morning shows... Colonialism worked out poorly... but Western civilization is actually a really good thing." – Buck Sexton and Clay Travis [35:08 - 37:44]
Final Listener Call: Lewis from Birmingham humorously teases Clay about mispronouncing "Addis Ababa," showcasing the show's personable dynamic.
"I get tickled whenever I hear you try to pronounce things and you don't get it right." – Lewis [38:33]
Fatherhood as a Pillar of Society: Both hosts emphasize the critical role of fathers in reducing violent crime and fostering strong family units across all racial and socioeconomic backgrounds.
Systemic Bias in Custody Laws: The show highlights the challenges fathers face in gaining equitable custody, urging reforms to support involved fatherhood.
Combating Racial Divides: By avoiding the racialization of crime, Clay and Buck advocate for a unified approach to addressing societal issues, promoting solutions that benefit all Americans.
Economic Disparities in Professional Sports: The discussion on WNBA pay inequality serves as a critique of how financial viability impacts athletes' compensation and the broader implications for women's sports.
Faith and Family: Through Senator Tim Scott's insights, the episode connects faith-based principles with the importance of nuclear families, suggesting that these foundations are essential for societal flourishing.
Engaging Community: Listener interactions, whether through emails or calls, enrich the conversation, providing real-world perspectives and fostering a sense of community among the audience.
This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show offers a thought-provoking exploration of contemporary societal challenges, blending earnest discussion with the hosts' signature wit and engagement.