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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show some breaking news from the Jimmy Kimmel world Legitimately in the last 10 minutes. Sinclair, one of the local broadcast networks alongside of nextstar that had refused to air the Jimmy Kimmel show, now says that it will return the Jimmy Kimmel show to its airwaves, meaning the huge free speech battle over Jimmy Kimmel missing four shows has basically worked its way through to completion.
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Buck Sexton
I guess I could, I can end my hunger strike now, Clay. I can un. I can unchain myself from the front steps of city Hall. I can, I can resume life thinking that the Constitution has not.
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Clay Travis
I mean, give me a break. Yes, yes, you may indeed. The President of the United States is on the golf course right now for the Ryder cup, where he is cheering on the United States men's team, which had a rough start to the day. And basically the four matches that are underway right now between the United States and Europe are all even, with those being through five, through four and through three holes right now, according to the scoreboard that I am am watching. I bet as one of our early callers was doing, I bet that many of you are potentially listening to us on radio while having the Ryder cup playing. Because I think this audience is a big golf fan audience. It certainly is a very pro USA audience. I wanted to play for you guys. Ted Cruz questions. So obviously we've been talking a great deal about Comey being indicted. Uh, we've talked about the jurisdiction under the location, meaning Alexandria. We've given Lindsey Halligan, I think is her name, the. The newly appointed U.S. attorney who has gotten these double indictments. We have talked about the judge in play here. We've talked about the law in play. We have not played for you. What is, it appears the audio. That is the testimony to Congress that created a perjury charge, remember? And Buck, you can correct me if I'm wrong on this. There is a five year statute of limitations for perjury charges. We were coming up on the very end of those, that statutory window to allow charges to be brought.
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Buck Sexton
I believe all federal criminal charges have a five year statutory limit. A statutory limit or statute of limitations unless otherwise specified. There are some that have no limitation but, you know, no statute of limitations. But yes, five years is the standard and this is a low level thing. So it's going to be five years.
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Clay Travis
Okay, so I want to play for you cut 32. We think this is where the perjury charge is coming from. This is our friend Senator Ted Cruz of Texas asking Comey about prior testimony, which we will also play for you about leaking information during the Russia. The Russia ridiculousness. Here's cut 32. This was from a little bit less roughly five years ago. Listen on May 3, 2017, in this committee, Chairman Grassley asked you point blank, quote, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation, of the Clinton investigation? You responded under oath, quote, never. He then asked you, quote, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration? You responded again under oath, no. Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal and that you were directly aware of it and that you directly authorized it. Now, what Mr. McCabe is saying and what you testified to this committee cannot both be true. One or the other is false. Who's telling the truth? I can only speak to my testimony. I stand by what the testimony you.
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Byron Donalds
Summarized that I gave in May of 2017.
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Clay Travis
So your testimony is you've never authorized anyone to leak and Mr. McCabe, when, if he says contrary, is not telling the truth, is that correct? Again, I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today. Okay, now, Buck, let me also play for everyone because this is getting a little bit complicated. So. And again, one of the challenges with perjury charges in general is proving knowledge of something being untrue and an intent to directly lie. Again, you have to prove all of this, not that we think it happened, not that it seems likely that it was happening. And then also, producer Greg pulled the cut from 2017, which you heard the questioning from Ted Cruz was about. This is Chuck Grassley, Iowa Senator, with James Comey.
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Byron Donalds
Listen, Director Comey, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about.
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Buck Sexton
Matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?
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Clay Travis
Never.
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Byron Donalds
Question two, one, relatively related. Have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?
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Clay Travis
No.
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Buck Sexton
Has any classified information relating to President.
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Byron Donalds
Trump or his association associates been declassified or and shared with the media?
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Clay Travis
Not to my knowledge. Okay, Buck, let's dive in here. I'll put on my proverbial lawyer hat. I want to get your take. And then obviously many of you can can react. I think it's highly likely that James Comey has been an anonymous source and or he has authorized others to be anonymous sources. If you asked me to set the odds or likelihood of that, 98%, maybe 99%, I'm very confident that he has, based on some of these stories, been sourced background. This gets into the complexity here. I also, and I bet you would sign off on this. Find it highly unlikely that any journalist is going to give up their source and say, hey, guess what? James Comey was the guy who told me X that I used to write an article about. I think you would probably sign off and say, yeah, that's not going to happen.
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Buck Sexton
So, yeah, they're not going to burn. They're not going to burn Comey as a source. And then you'd have to have the government willing to put them, which they have been willing to do in other leak investigations, I might add. But they would have to be willing to put that journalist in prison for contempt for refusing to. People believe, and this is something that everyone argues with me on and they are wrong, People believe that journalists have a special protection under the First Amendment that is not actually legally true. There's a kind of more of a guideline that you don't make journalists divulge sources. But in the course of a criminal investigation, there is no statutory protection for journalists that exists at a federal level. And that is just the reality. So this is why when there's a big leak investigation over national security, they can be like, okay, you're not going to tell us the sources, we're going to lock you up. Now there's a First Amendment tension that comes up with that, but there is actually no legal prohibition on that.
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Clay Travis
Judith Miller was the New York Times reporter that actually got locked up over leaks in the past. Right. If I remember that correctly, they put her in prison for a short period of time. Okay. So you and I both believe it's highly unlikely that a journalist is going to give up the source and say, yeah, I talked to James Comey. That would mean that what is the evidence? Right? So in order to get a conviction for perjury, going into the nitty gritty of this case is going to require there being some evidence. I can tell you that I think it's highly likely. But can you prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, as is the standard that a jury would have to believe was the case? The way to me that this gets proven is one, and this is by far the easiest. There is someone that is going to testify against James Comey and say I know for a fact he was a source or he directly told me to be a source and I am getting some form of government protection in order to be a witness and I can put get him dead to rights on this charge because he told me the exact opposite of what he testified to. That's, that's point one. That would be by far the Best way to prove this case is someone testifies and says he did it. And I can tell you exactly how. The only other way that I can think of buck that they could get this charge proven is if there were enough circumstantial evidence that you could prove, hey, James Comey made. Because he was using a government phone. And I'm just using example. James Comey sent emails and we know because he was using a government email address or some other way. There were direct contacts with reporters. All these contacts happened and then a story came out. That is circumstantial evidence that Comey was in fact having conversations with the reporters and he lied when he said he was not an anonymous source and he had never authorized anyone. Can you think of any other way they could prove this short of James Comey being like on the witness stand?
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Buck Sexton
Yes, I ordered the code red and I would do it again. You know, that's exactly Comey.
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Clay Travis
Yes.
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Buck Sexton
You could see Comey having something of a theatrical flourish here at some point.
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Clay Travis
I, Colonel Nathan Jessup, by the way, one of the all time great scenes in the history of cinema, I think is Jess up on that witness stand and A Few Good Men.
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Buck Sexton
I mean the, the unsung hero of the movie. Because we actually do need him on that wall. You know, I'm just throwing that out there. Like we, we need guys who are badasses who are.
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Clay Travis
That is such a great movie.
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Buck Sexton
It's a fun. It's a, it's a fun, fun film. Great, great rewatchable too. I would, I would say Clay, it's. It's also worth noting that in the Trump era, lying to investigators, I mean, this has been the go to. This is what they got Papadopoulos on. This is what they got. Whether investigators order Congress under oath, this is what they got Papadopoulos on. He went to prison for 14 days. This is. And it was a minor thing. Papadopoulos didn't break any actual law, but they said he mischaracterized his conversation with, with Joseph Mifsud and so who's a London based professor. And so they said, well, you have to go to prison now. This is. They sent the whole tactical team in the FBI tactical team in and gave CNN a tip off, by the way, to go get Roger Stone. And you know, they got him on, on obstruction and false statements. That was what. So they're nailing people for this stuff in Trump world left and right. They got, as I said, they got Bannon and Navarro on contempt of Congress. I mean they will. They Comey himself sent in FBI agents on the pretext of a Logan act violation, a law that has never sent anybody in American history to prison and it's been around for 200 years. So if you're going to be on the team here as Comey, was that the most clear abuse of statute and the most kind of officious and hyper legalistic interpretation of law should be used to imprison your political adversaries? It's gotta go both ways. It's gotta go both ways. So if Comey, if we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt Comey lied about this one, they should absolutely convict and he should absolutely do some time. And that is the America we need to live in.
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Clay Travis
I agree with all that and that's to me, if you go into the charges themselves, that is the only way I can see that they can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Somebody testified.
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Buck Sexton
Can I ask you something about this? Do you think, do you think the proof even matters? I think that the jury pool is everything here. Meaning that, you know, if you get people that think that Comey's a slippery fish and deserves what's coming his way here, you're going to get a conviction. I think that's unfortunately very unlikely. I think it's much more likely you'll have at least one person who is, hashtag resistance, probably saw her or him, Clay out in that protest at the inauguration in the cold purple hair blowing in the wind, sadly yelling free Palestine. You get one of those people on this jury, it's game over. Comey gets to walk.
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Clay Travis
Well, what you're hitting at is what I think is ultimately why Comey's not going to get convicted. You've got a judge that's likely to be in his favor. You've got a jury pool that's overwhelmingly going to be in his favor. You've got at least the mid tier circuit court judges that may well be in his favor. And what you're hitting at is actually I always try to go and say, okay, this is a big issue now. How do we fix it going forward? I wish more people would get in line behind this idea. And I've, I've talked with senators who are very smart about the law on this. And in Comey's defense, this is working in his favor. The jury pool decides everything. What is a jury of your peers? It's a really fascinating question. It's philosophical to me. If I were going to get charged.
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Buck Sexton
With a crime, you would want sec season ticket holders to be your jury.
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Clay Travis
That's the Best jury of my peers. But at a minimum, I would want to bring my federal case to Tennessee, where I live. What they do, and this will happen with future Democrat administrations is they have a rigged jury pool in D.C. that will basically stand up for anything they want to do so long. Or Donald Trump should be able to remove the case to Florida, where he lives now. You should be charged. If you're charged with a federal crime, in my opinion, you should be able to remove that federal charge to your home state or your home jurisdiction. It would make things way fairer going forward. It would mean, hey, we're not going to charge Clay Travis in Washington D.C. we're going to have to prosecute him in his home state of Tennessee, uh, maybe in his own county of Williamson County. By the way, I really like that jury of my peers here. Um, that's fair. Comey is going to have a rigged jury in his favor. He's probably going to have a rigged judge in his favor. And I think he's not going to get convicted. I'm just telling you not because I think he didn't do something wrong, because I think the procedural mechanisms surrounding him are going to protect him from the consequences of his likely actions.
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Buck Sexton
I think all of that is accurate and true. I agree with all that. I would just say it's worth bringing the charge anyway. Got to start somewhere. So I think it's a, I think, I don't disagree.
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Clay Travis
And it's a big deal to get the indictment given where this forum is. So Lindsey Halligan and the individuals involved deserve a great deal of credit for being able to accomplish that.
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Buck Sexton
There's something, there's something called deterrence prosecution where you do something that sends a message to other people. Now, you would hope that actually really all prosecutions have some deterrent effects, but in this case, yeah, if you're going to work in the FBI, you better not play games to try to jam people up because you don't like their politics, or else you might be the one facing charges. That's an important even, even beyond Comey and the deep state and Trump, that's an important lesson in general for those entrusted with power. All right, a home burglary of one kind or another happens every 30 seconds on average nationwide. So it's something that you just have to be aware of and you have to be able to protect yourself, your family and your home. Sabre is a company I you to consider here because they make the top class non lethal protection tools available in the marketplace today. I've got them at my home. So does clay. A whole range of these tools by the way. Pepper sprays, pepper gels, pepper launchers and sabers. Self protection. They've even got alarms you can set up in your home and things to make it harder to break into a door. A really impressive array of non lethal self protection tools I would say start with their pepper projectile launcher bundle. They've got this all set up for you when you go to saberradio.com that's S A B. You'll save 15% there. Saberradio.com this pepper projectile launcher is so really honestly straightforward and you can practice with it because in the bundle they've got some practice rounds for you. And man, this irritant that it fires off will stop the threat. With non lethal gives you force escalation. You've always got that 2A if you need it at home, if you have to go there. But you can start with non lethal and that makes a lot of sense for a lot of people. 844-824-SAFE, is the number to call 844-824-FAFE or call saberradio.com I'm sorry, go to saberradio.com S-A-B-R-E-Radio.com Sometimes all you can do.
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Clay Travis
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
In here to Clay and Buck. Got a lot of calls, a lot of talk backs flying our way. We'll come and hit them up actually here in just a few minutes because I just realized, Clay, we have a very quick turn. So let's just say to everybody the amazing talkbacks, calls, emails, all that good stuff, we'll be waiting for them on the other side of this fabulous live read you are about to do. Fabulous.
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Clay Travis
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Byron Donalds
I shank and drink transfusions. I enjoy myself, actually. I just don't really can't count the strokes.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, well, join the club. So you are with us now. We got a potential shutdown going on in the, in the Congress. We'll get to that. But I wanted to start with this because Buck now lives in Miami. He's potentially going to be your constituent. I've got a place in North Florida. I love it and the culture of Florida. You're in South Florida. You got into this thing because you looked around and just said, man, we're making a lot of bad decisions. I saw the story about Trump potentially getting his presidential library in Miami, and I thought about you in that context because you, I think are representative of the transformation that we have seen in the state of Florida over the last decade. For people who don't know, I think maybe sharing your story of how you ended up doing what you're doing and why you want to be the next governor of Florida would be a good jumping off point, using that library as a, as a point of demarcation.
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Byron Donalds
Well, I mean, before 2010, I was a registered Democrat I started getting interested in politics through the 2008 financial collapse. My career was financial services. That's where my career started. And I was. I had to do research for my company in order to keep one of our investors in the company. Came across Congress, and I was like, what the hell is this mess? These people don't know what they're talking about. They actually sound quite dumb. And I just started paying attention to politics, started reading articles, started reading about books on political philosophy. Found out I was actually quite conservative. And so, you know, when it was. When I was, you know, in the Tea Party movement, locally in Naples, Florida, in the Tea Party movement, and I'm getting ready for the midterm elections. I looked at my voter registration. I was like, why am I still registered like a Democrat? I don't think like one. I'm very conservative. So I switched parties after that. Locally, I got asked to run for office. Did not think that was ever going to be on my personal bingo card of what I was going to do with my life. And so then. And so then what I decided to do was, you know, jump in and see what happened. And I was an activist out of my local Tea Party area, worked hard, really. Just was trying to do the best to represent conservative values as I believe them and as I decided to follow the conservative movement. And then before you know it, I'm in the state House. Then I got elected to Congress, and here we go.
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Buck Sexton
And now you're running for governor in my home state of Florida, Congressman Donald, which has honestly been on. On a hot streak. It's been going very well. I've been very pleased with the governance in my state since I moved a few. A few years ago. What are some of the top things that you would want to do if you become governor? I have to ask, because I'm curious for me, but we also have a huge Florida audience. You know, 21 million people live in the great state of Florida. So it's. It's a substantial. It's a big gig. It's a big job.
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Byron Donalds
Well, first is, you know, when it comes to the cost of living in Florida, insurance, you know, the governor has done some great work, and Governor Desantis has done a great job as our governor, but we still have more work to do in trying to stabilize our insurance market. For Floridians, when it comes to property taxes, our homeowners need reform. That's just the way it is. They need a reform. They need a relief from local property taxes. When it comes to the future of our economy. We're going to be the financial capital of the world in a decade. We're going to bring a lot of manufacturing and defense and aerospace and tech companies and jobs to our state because Cape Canaveral is doing all of the launches. But I'll tell you the biggest question I get, no matter where I am in Florida, is are you going to keep us going on the conservative trajectory that we're on? Are we going to continue to be the free state of Florida? And my answer to the people of Florida is a resounding yes. I'm a conservative out of the Tea Party movement. I'm a House Freedom Caucus member. I have one of the most conservative voting records in the country and also in the state of Florida. And whether it's law and order, whether it's backing our police, making sure woke and DEI is not in our schools, indoctrinated our kids, having common sense economic policies that allow people to just, you know, chase their dreams here in Florida. That's what I'm about. That's where the state is going to continue to be. And we're just going to take Florida to a whole other level.
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Clay Travis
We're talking to Byron, Donald's next governor of the state of Florida. Byron, you're a dad like both of us are. And I know you knew Charlie Kirk well. Where were you when you heard about the assassination? What was your relationship like with Charlie and what do you think the legacy of his activism should be as we all go forward?
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Byron Donalds
I was in my office in Washington. I was actually in the middle of a meeting. My, my comms director called me out, which he almost never does. So I was like, oh, what's happening? And, you know, he showed me the video and honestly, I just doubled over. I doubled over. It was painful to watch. And, you know, you try to do your best to kind of stay on track and take care of your business. And then the news started coming across that Charlie had died from that assassin's bullet. He was, he was special man. He's one of one. I know we were planning on doing, like campus tours throughout Florida over the next year. Something that we were, we had had conversations about his, his, his team and my team were trying to work through that. But on a broader level, we. Carlie Kirk. He has changed the political fabric in this country for conservatism. And he did it facing his dream of bringing young people into the political debate of what conservative policy actually is, what Western civilization is, how great that is, and why Judeo Christian values are the value set that allow people to thrive and be successful. And I don't think we would be in the position we are right now, not just the Republican Party, but the conservative movement. Without Charlie Kirk, he's going to be missed and he's not going to be replaced.
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Buck Sexton
Speaking of Congressman Donalds out of Florida and Congressman, I did want to get you to weigh in on this, if I could. We tend to take a somewhat cynical view, I think, of shutdown negotiations. Can you just give us some insight onto, onto this whole situation? What's, if there's anything that's important that's at issue as you see it, what is it and where is all this going?
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Byron Donalds
The way I look at it, Chuck Schumer doesn't want to look like he's being bullied. I'm just telling you straight. When Chuck Schumer worked with President Trump to keep the government open, he took a lot of grief from the radicals in his party. And, you know, I think if the government shuts down, it's because he is going to bend the knee to the radicals in the Democrat Party. I mean, look, Donald Trump has delivered on the agenda that he promised the American people. The Democrats were soundly rejected last November. Elections do have consequences. And so if Chuck Schumer wants to shut down the government and have a Schumer shutdown, it says simply because he wants the radical left policies that the American people rejected to be funded by Donald Trump and executed by Donald Trump. And that's not going to happen, period. Everybody knows it.
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Clay Travis
We're talking about Donald. You're a big sports fan. You're running for governor of Florida next week. I know it's a week out. Miami is traveling to Florida State. Your Seminoles have bounced back after a disastrous game. And I got to tell you, I think the last time we had you on, I was telling you, I went to the Alabama Florida State game. People were phenomenal. So great. Stadium has been renovated. It looks spectacular. What is going to happen when those two great Florida college dynasties historically go head to head next Saturday?
- [33:26]
Byron Donalds
The nose. You already know what's going to happen. Florida State. I was actually asked in a room in Miami and I said, I'm taking the Knowles plus five and a half. I said, that's my own personal line. I have no idea what Vegas has the line at, but I got the Knowles. I got the Knowles by five and a half. That's what I got.
- [33:44]
Buck Sexton
You know, Clay, Clay has hit what, three parlays in a row or what.
- [33:48]
Byron Donalds
Do you, what do you call this.
- [33:49]
Clay Travis
Very well with Prize picks. I've hit three different picks in the first four weeks. These are Thursday. NFL, I'm on fire. I would have been happy for that. For the full season, in fact. By the way, Congressman, your team is playing tonight in Charlottesville. I don't know what part of the country you're in right now, but FSU is on the road.
- [34:08]
Byron Donalds
I'm in Tampa right now.
- [34:10]
Clay Travis
So do you plan events around so you can try to be able to watch games? I mean, I hear from different guys that they try to do that. I'm curious. If you look at the schedule and you're like, hey, maybe we can do that in the morning, maybe we could do that in the evening. Do you try to build around a little bit so you can keep an eye on games?
- [34:27]
Byron Donalds
Nah, you just stay focused, man. The schedule is set. We just. We run the gauntlet and do what we need to do. I love my Knowles. I love sports in general, but not in this time period. Running for governor is an all hands on deck situation. So I'll either catch the highlights or, you know, if I'm really blessed, what'll happen is. And this is what happened with the Alabama Florida State game. I was keynoting a dinner on the other side of the state and they had a pretty, a pretty decent program. It was pretty long. So, you know, I pulled up, you know, you know the game on my phone, and I sat there at the head table and was watching the game while I was talking to people. It was actually a lot of fun.
- [35:09]
Clay Travis
Good luck tonight and good luck next week to the Seminoles and we'll talk to you again soon. But keep up the good work on the campaign as well.
- [35:17]
Byron Donalds
All right, Take it easy, guys. Thanks.
- [35:19]
Clay Travis
That's Byron Donald's next governor of the state of Florida. I believe. We'll see what happens. And Buck just gave me a nice tease there because three out of the last four weeks, the NFL season, four weeks. We had the game last night. The Seahawks kicked a field goal to win to start off the weekend of activities in the NFL and we won. We have won three of the last four weeks. Every Thursday on the show, we're gonna have some fun. We can play along together. I'm gonna give you a pick with prize picks. It's a great week for prize picks. American founded company. In fact, I'm gonna see the founder tonight in Athens. Adam Just, a University of Georgia grad, founded prize picks. Guys, they just sold for 4.15 billion. This company is only a few years old. Only in America's success story. Just a Georgia Bulldog grad, Adam and his team have had tremendous success and they have built a great American brand for all of you. Just be able to have a little bit more fun in sports. That's what Price Picks does every Thursday on the program. I will give you a pick. We have hit on three out of four. I would be. I would have been happy hitting on three all season long to be fair, but it just makes things a little bit more fun. You can play $5 and when you do, you get $50 deposited in your account. All you have to do is use my name, Clay, that's C, L, A Y and we will give you the pick on Thursday. Everybody can play along just a little bit more fun. If you are a big football fan like I am and like many of the viewers and listeners out there are, go to prizepix.com you can play in California, you can play in Texas, you can play in Florida, you can play in Georgia, where I'm about to be a little bit later this evening. Prizepix.com Code Clay that is prizepix.com Code clay keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom portable speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. Elevate your listening experience to new heights because, let's be real, your music deserves it. The future of sound is now with LG XBoom and for a limited time, save 25%@LG.com with code Fall25. Bring the boom XBoom.
- [37:53]
Buck Sexton
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- [38:07]
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
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- [38:23]
Clay Travis
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- [39:06]
Buck Sexton
Start your 7 day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox one for complete terms and conditions. Fox one we live for live streaming now. A new NFL season means a fresh start and fresh styles. @nflshop.com you'll find the latest jerseys, hats and sideline gear to register. Rep your team all season long. From rookies making their debut to legends, NFLShop.com has it all score exclusive styles you won't find anywhere else. And show up ready for every kickoff and big play fan like a pro. And shop now@nflshop.com closing up shop today on Clay and Buck and I have a 14 hour flight ahead of me tonight to Taiwan. Looking like going to have some very interesting conversations with representatives of the Taiwanese government. Going over with Stephen Yates, longtime friend of mine, Heritage foundation scholar in residence and also my brother Mason and my brother Keats. So it's kind of like the Sexton Bros. Excellent adventure. But we are going to have very high level meetings. Those have been confirmed at least so far. And we're going to learn a lot about what's going on in Taiwan both on the national security and technology and commerce fronts because it's such an important part of the of the world right now and one of the most fascinating geopolitical flashpoints in a range of ways that exists. So I'm looking forward to it. I wanted to learn more about it. I've been researching it for months in advance and so you know, it'll be, it'll be a good I'll be able to come back and hopefully play some interviews for you guys that we're going to do over there because this is one of the main challenges on well in the world today on the globe and we're gonna have some really interesting stories I think Clay. So that is something I'm looking forward to. Let's get to so and Clay will be solo next week. He's gonna be helming the show. I'm gonna be on the other side of the world running around getting you all ground truth and stories and learning cool stuff. EE podcast listener Corey wants to weigh in kind of ties in here. Play it.
- [41:15]
Byron Donalds
Hey, I think a Clay and Buck administration would be great because we know you guys would stay safe since you.
- [41:22]
Clay Travis
Two are almost never in the office.
- [41:24]
Byron Donalds
At the same time.
- [41:27]
Clay Travis
I like this voice, by the way. He has got a good radio voice there on the Talk back. Yeah, look, you're going to be in Taiwan. I will be on. Here's what I would say. In general, I think I'm very confident. I don't even have to say, I think. I don't know that any show in America has guest host less frequently than this one, honestly. Now, are we off for Christmas, New Year's, July 4th, things like that? Yes, but in terms of actual guest host, we almost never have one. And that's because one or the other of us can almost always be here, but do have busy lives. And sometimes that means that we're running around all over the place. I wanted to play this, but we appreciate the callback and it can be the Clay or Buck show if that makes you happy. The Colonel Jessup. I think this is one of the greatest scenes in movie history, honestly. A Few Good Men. We were talking about whether Comey might just. I said there's two ways you can prove that you lied on perjury. I think one is somebody testifies and says, hey, I know that the perjury happened and here's what happened. The other one is circumstantial. And I do have to admit there is a third where maybe somebody can get Comey riled up and he can go full Jess up on us. And for those of you who remember, this is what that standard sounded like when Jack Nicholson was on the stand against Tom Cruise and A Few Good Men. You want answers? I think I'm entitled.
- [43:00]
Buck Sexton
You want answers? I want the truth.
- [43:02]
Clay Travis
You can't handle the truth.
- [43:05]
Buck Sexton
Son, we live in a world that has walls.
- [43:06]
Clay Travis
And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what. I know that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time or the inclination to explain my myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. Did you order the Code Red? I did the job.
- [44:21]
Buck Sexton
Did you order the Code Red? Damn right I did.
- [44:25]
Clay Travis
God, that's a good scene. That is one of the great scenes of all time.
- [44:29]
Buck Sexton
I think Colonel Jessup doesn't get his fair due, man. I mean we need rough and ready dudes out there to keep the bad guys at bay. I think he got kind of a raw deal in that movie. Just gonna say it.
- [44:40]
Clay Travis
Buck would have voted not guilty on Jessup. Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom portable speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. Elevate your listening experience to new heights because let's be real, your music deserves it. The future of sound is now with LG XBoom and for a limited time save 25% at LG.com with code fall25. Bring the boom XBoom.
- [45:13]
Buck Sexton
There's a lot going on in Hollywood. How are you supposed to stay on top of it all? Variety has the solution. Take 20 minutes out of your day and listen to the new daily Variety podcast for breaking entertainment news and expert perspectives.
- [45:27]
Clay Travis
Where do you see the business actually heading?
- [45:29]
Buck Sexton
Featuring the iconic journalists of Variety and hosted by co editor in chief Cynthia Littleton.
- [45:35]
Clay Travis
The only constant in Hollywood is change.
- [45:38]
Buck Sexton
Open your free iHeartradio app, search daily Variety and listen now. A new NFL season means a fresh start and fresh style. @nflshop.com you'll find the latest jerseys, hats and sideline gear to rep your team all season long. From rookies making their debut to legends, NFLShop.com has it all. Score exclusive styles you won't find anywhere else and show up ready for every kickoff and big play fan like a pro and shop now@nflshop.com.
- [46:14]
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Headlines across the world.
- [47:16]
Clay Travis
The News Agents we're not just here to tell you what's happening, but why? From me, Emily Maitlis and me, John Sopel with Global's award winning podcast the News Agents Dropping daily covering everything you need to know about politics and current affairs and The News Agents USA listening to the News Agents on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search the News agents to start listening.
- [47:42]
Buck Sexton
This is an iHeart podcast.