Hour 3 - The Original Viral Content

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Episode: Hour 3 - The Original Viral Content
Date: January 9, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
Notable Guest: Brianna Lyman (The Federalist)
Main Theme: The intersection of history, media virality, and current events—including the 250th anniversary of Thomas Paine’s Common Sense, lessons from the American Revolution, and an in-depth discussion of controversial law enforcement incidents in today’s America.

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Brief Overview

Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into the enduring impact of historical ideas on American identity, using the 250th anniversary of Thomas Paine’s Common Sense as a jumping-off point. Clay, Buck, and guest Brianna Lyman reflect on the power of clear communication in motivating collective action, then pivot to contemporary debates about media coverage, law enforcement, and accountability in the age of viral content. The episode also features lighter moments around Chicago culinary oddities and listener calls.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Common Sense: The Original Viral Content

[02:12 - 08:50]

• Historical Context:
  Brianna Lyman highlights the release of Common Sense as a transformative, accessible communication event—comparing its role to modern "viral" phenomena.

  • "Thomas Paine has a very good prose where he is able to deliver the ideas of the revolution...in a way that the average farmer or shopkeeper can understand."
    — Brianna Lyman [04:24]
  • Clay and Buck discuss how, even without social media, Common Sense became a best-seller, powerfully shifting opinion in the colonies.

• Impact on Revolutionary Sentiment:
  The pamphlet urged colonists to trust their feelings of injustice and consider rebellion—crucially moving public opinion toward independence.

  • "This pamphlet helps push so many people over the edge, and it basically becomes the biggest bestseller aside from the Bible in 1776."
    — Brianna Lyman [05:05]

• The Downfall and Redemption of Paine’s Reputation:
  Despite his impact, Paine later became alienated due to radicalism and quarrels with other founders, notably falling out with George Washington.

  • "When Paine died a few years later, only six people attended his funeral...now, of course, we look back and say this pamphlet changed the course of the revolution."
    — Brianna Lyman [06:07]

2. How to Connect with History Today

[06:56 - 12:57]

• Recommended Reading:
  Lyman suggests reading Common Sense, John Dickinson’s Letters from a Farmer, and the founders’ primary correspondence—while cautioning against overly politicized retellings of history.

  • "Primary documents are extremely important. Reading letters...from John Adams, Hamilton, Hancock, that's going to be where you're going to feel the spirit of the revolution."
    — Brianna Lyman [07:33]

• History for the Digital Age:
  She promotes her "Countdown to Freedom"—a daily two-minute history digest on Twitter, inspired by her own family ties to the Revolution.

  • "Every day in two minutes or less, I want to walk viewers through what was happening on this day in 1776...the revolution was not easy...it was not given to us. It was won by blood and sacrifice and a lot of turmoil."
    — Brianna Lyman [08:50]

• Institutional Resources & Pop Culture:
  Lyman recommends the Claremont Institute, Charles Kessler, Glenn Elmer, Joseph Ellis’s The Cause, and films like The Patriot and Gettysburg to immerse oneself in the spirit and complexities of American history.

3. Modern Political Leaders vs. Founding Fathers

[09:51 - 11:51]

• Decline in Historical Knowledge:
  The hosts lament the lack of deep historical and religious grounding among today's politicians.
  • "The other thing that they had that we just do not have is they had a robust religious atmosphere...Christianity was the impetus for the entire revolution."
    — Brianna Lyman [10:50]
  • "They don't really have a compass to guide them except for whatever is, you know, the flavor of the month. And that's the problem."
    — Brianna Lyman [11:35]

4. Media, Viral Video, and Law Enforcement Controversies

[12:57 - 35:33]

• Body Cam Footage & The Minneapolis Shooting:
  Buck and Clay react to the release of law enforcement body cam footage involving ICE/CBP officers, contrasting Fox News’s coverage with CNN and MSNBC, and criticizing the selective framing by "legacy media."

  • "That becomes still has not played at MSNBC or cnn but again Fox News now playing the video that we have been talking about for the last hour or so that has gone viral..." — Buck Sexton [02:12]

• Political Reaction and Narrative Control:
  They highlight responses from politicians like Tim Walz and Tina Kotek—arguing that comparing current events to Gettysburg or blaming the Trump administration for law enforcement actions is misleading and inflammatory.

  • "He doubles down on that and publicly basically says we're in like a little quasi civil war at the federal government..." — Brianna Lyman [13:54]

• Media Incentives and Activism:
  Clay contends that some activists are deliberately seeking confrontations to create viral, politicizable incidents, while the left hopes for law enforcement overreach to gain political leverage.

  • "They're hoping that there is some sort of violent confrontation. That's the goal. This woman's wife, 'Drive, baby, drive.' She wanted there to be a confrontation. Her spouse got killed because they created this accelerant situation..." — Clay Travis [26:47]

• Legal Double Standards:
  The hosts note the disparity between how the left treats the obstruction of ICE operations vs. protests at abortion clinics.

  • "When civilians...block...an abortion clinic. Democrats will lock you up for years. But ICE operations, you can stand in the middle and try to...obstruct law enforcement..." — Buck Sexton [33:16]

• Call for Political Solidarity:
  Clay suggests Trump invite the ICE officer involved in the Minneapolis incident to the State of the Union, to show support for law enforcement and underscore the importance of upholding the law.

5. Listener Calls & Lighthearted Moments

[17:15 - 23:51, 37:57 - End]

• Liquor & Local Culture:
  Producer Michael from Chicago describes Malort as “like licking a tire after chewing aspirin” [17:41], spawning jokes about regional food and drinks.

• Food Debates & Philly Cheesesteaks:
  Listeners call in to defend Philadelphia’s cheesesteaks after Buck’s disparaging comments.

• Historical Police Shootings:
  Sue from Houston recalls the 2017 shooting of an unarmed woman in Minnesota by a Somali officer, contrasting the media and public reactions based on racial dynamics [38:56].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “[Common Sense] basically becomes the biggest bestseller aside from the Bible in 1776.”
  — Brianna Lyman [05:05]

• “[Pamphleteers were] kind of the original viral content, right?”
  — Clay Travis [05:36]

• “If all men are created in God's image, all men must be equal. They applied that fundamental Christian teaching to every single thing they did. That was the basis for the entire revolution.”
  — Brianna Lyman [10:50]

• “Left wingers would gladly have ICE agents kill innocent people... because politically it would advantage them.”
  — Clay Travis [26:47]

• “They want accelerants to occur. They want these situations to be created so that they can gain political advantage from them.”
  — Buck Sexton [28:36]

• “They don't really have a compass to guide them except for whatever is, you know, the flavor of the month. And that's the problem.”
  — Brianna Lyman [11:35]

• “[Producer Mike:] Malort... it’s like licking a tire after chewing aspirin. It’s like cough syrup and betrayal had a baby. It is awful.”
  — Producer Michael from Chicago [17:41]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:12] — Discussion opens on the ICE/CBP shooting and viral body cam footage.
• [04:24] — Brianna Lyman contextualizes Common Sense as the original viral content.
• [05:36] — The importance of Paine’s pamphlet and its mass impact.
• [06:56] — Book and resource recommendations for American history.
• [08:50] — “Countdown to Freedom” mini-history videos and motivations.
• [09:51] — Differences between Founders’ education/historical grounding and today’s politicians.
• [12:57] — Media bias and law enforcement incidents.
• [17:41] — Lighthearted segment on Malort, Chicago’s “worst liquor.”
• [26:47] — Minimization of video evidence by media and political reactions.
• [33:16] — Legal double standards in protest laws.
• [38:56] — Caller references contrasting media narratives in police shootings.

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Tone & Language

The episode mixes earnest, impassioned discussions about American history, legal double standards, and media framing, with the hosts’ characteristic humor and banter (especially regarding food and drinks). Brianna Lyman brings academic insight and personal passion for connecting listeners to primary sources and the real complexity of the revolution.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• The power of communication—then and now—in shaping collective action and national direction.
• The importance of historical context, both in understanding the American founding and today’s culture wars.
• A critical eye toward how viral media, activism, and partisan narratives shape public perceptions of law enforcement and justice.
• The value of reading primary documents and seeking out robust, intellectually rigorous institutions and resources for meaningful historical understanding.
• Appreciation for the show’s blend of serious debate, humor, and audience participation.

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Transcript

[Brianna Lyman]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in final hour of the week. Let me update you a little bit as we are finish up 15 hours. We're entering into the 15th hour of the week with all of you. Fox News has now played the video of the ICE officer who fired the shots killing the individual who was driving a car directly at him. That becomes still has not played at MSNBC or cnn but again Fox News now playing the video that we have been talking about for the last hour or so that has gone viral. The body cam officer view. It appears that is essentially going to end this story for anyone with a functional brain. Maybe there are still some members of the legacy media who are going to argue that this was somehow not a justified shooting, but it will be collapsing in general. Now we've Talked about this 250th anniversary of the United States, greatest country that's ever existed in the history of the world. And Brianna Lyman, who we had on right before the end of the year to talk about history related issues, is doing a really cool every day 250th anniversary or every few days 250th anniversary, historical marker of what's going on as we celebrate our nation's 250th birthday. And Brianna, you've got a really cool video that is up today. For those of us out there like Buck and me and you who are big history people, Today is the 250th anniversary of the release of Common Sense. So for people who might have forgotten some of their history, Brianna, thanks for coming on with us. Thomas Paine's probably the most most famous pamphlet of all time. But what exactly occurred and how are people going to be able to now pass their AP history exams or maybe impress their kids who are in AP history like mine? Tell us what happened 250 years ago today, and thanks for coming on.

[Brianna Lyman]

150 years ago today didn't just change the fate of eventually change the world. So Thomas Paine is unlike any of the other founders. And Thomas Paine is not necessarily a founder, but he's unlike any man of that generation. You have Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Sam Adams, John Adams. These are the greatest thinkers of their time, but they don't speak in a way that is necessary, necessarily palatable to the average American. And that's where Thomas Paine comes in. So Thomas Paine has a very good prose where he is able to deliver the ideas of the revolution of enlightenment in a way that the average farmer or shopkeeper can understand. So he comes out with common sense today, 250 years ago. It's originally published anonymously. And the big thing it does is it says to colonists, trust what you feel. And he says, look, you are made in God's image. God has made all men equal. You are not being treated as equal. You feel angry about that. Trust those feelings. And at this point in the Revolution, a lot of colonists were still on the fence. They didn't know if they wanted to be loyalist, if they Wanted to be neutral or if they wanted to join the cause. This pamphlet helps push so many people over the edge, and it basically becomes the biggest bestseller aside from the Bible and in 1776.

[Clay Travis]

Astonishing stuff. And especially to do all this and to have such impact, Brianna, before Twitter and TikTok and Facebook and all these things, although I guess you could say in some ways the pamphleteers of their era, it was kind of the original viral. The original viral content. Right. And had a tremendous, tremendous effect on those who read it. Payne went on to get a little over his skis in the French Revolution, if I remember.

[Brianna Lyman]

Yeah, yeah, he actually did. He ended up in jail. He, in fact, wrote to Washington basically asking for help. And Washington, you know, is known as the guy that you don't get nasty with Washington and you certainly don't do it in public. And so I believe the story is when Washington ignored Paine's private letters for help, Payne went and made those public and Washington was irate. So Washington did not step in and help, help when Paine became troubled. And when Paine died a few years later, only six people attended his funeral. Because at the time he was not considered this great enlightened thinker. He was, you know, a rebel rouser. He caused a lot of problems in France and even in the colonies at some points. But now, of course, we look back and say this pamphlet changed the course of the revolution and brought on colonists who were on the fence.

[Buck Sexton]

Brianna, for people out there, because I'm reading right now, I just finished, these are big books. Rick Atkinson has got a Trill trilogy about the Revolutionary War. Volume two just came out in the last six months or so. The. And it's fantastic. What would you suggest? You're a big history person. America 250. What couple of books or what would you suggest would be a good way for this audience and for people out there who may just haven't experienced as much of American history as they would like, what would you suggest they should seek out? What would be good to read?

[Brianna Lyman]

Ooh, yeah. Obviously, common sense, I think, is great, especially because it's, you know, time period accurate and relative to today. John Dickinson, his, you know, letters to the farmer were really important in the years prior to the revolution. I think people should avoid Ken Burns documentary if that's my thing of what not to do, just because I think it's a little bit of a left wing tale of the American Revolution. But primary documents are extremely important. Reading letters, I think in particular from John Adams, Hamilton Hancock, that's going to Be where you're going to feel the spirit of the revolution. And also coming to my Twitter page and watching Countdown to Freedom every day, two minutes and less to talk about the American Revolution.

[Clay Travis]

So. So you can you tell everybody about this so that you know it's a great opportunity for you to pitch this to a lot of.

[Buck Sexton]

We have.

[Clay Travis]

We have history. I'm going to say this Clay. I think we have one of the biggest collections of history nerds in the world right now.

[Buck Sexton]

I think that's all with us.

[Clay Travis]

We are all. We all. We get excited about this Clay. And I go on to tangents about random history stuff. He's a big Civil War guy. I like, you know, ancient Greece and Rome and revolution stuff. Not as big into Civil War as Clay, but people love history who are listening to you right now. What is this two minutes? And what are you bringing together with it?

[Brianna Lyman]

Yeah, so I was inspired to do this because my seventh great grandfather served in the 3rd Massachusetts Provincial Congress with Hancock and Adams. So I feel like it's my obligation to kind of carry the Legacy of Seven, 1776 forward. But basically every day in two minutes or less, I want to walk viewers through what was happening on this day in 1776. Because a lot of people think the revolution was easy, that it was easy to convince the colonists to join the fight, that it was kind of, you know, a one and done, but it was not that sort of thing. The Enlightenment ideas that the founders were bringing to the American people were not palatable. They were certainly not liked at anywhere or any place in the entire world except for the colonies, really. And the founders did what no other people could do. And, you know, Buck, you mentioned the French Revolution. The French wanted to replicate what we did, and they fell. They couldn't do it to the degree we did it. We were the only people who could do it. So this Countdown to Freedom is supposed to help Americans understand just how intense the fight was for freedom and that it was not given to us. It was won by blood and sacrifice and a lot of turmoil.

[Buck Sexton]

Brianna, one thing that I think gets lost because I am reading more and more about the Founding era. Buck's right. I love the Civil War. But I've been reading more and more about the Revolutionary era. The degree of intelligence and education from a historical perspective that all of our founding fathers had, I don't think gets talked about enough because they were trying to learn from all of the failures of history as it pertained to government when they were creating this new government. And they all spoke A common language. They understand the history, understood the history of Greece and Rome and everything throughout the course of human history. And this may be disappointing. How well do you think our current political leaders understand history and how much does that hamstring them often? Because they don't have the same depth of knowledge that 250 years ago the guys who founded this country, we were fortunate enough did have.

[Brianna Lyman]

Yeah, I mean, look, let's be honest. Thomas Paine, for example, I think he dropped out of school when he was like 12 or 13 years old. So many of the founders only got education up until maybe the their mid teens, but they were getting a good education. Right. They're not being saddled with sociology and all this left wing, you know, drama we talk about today. Environmentalist issues, racism, all that stuff. They were focused on the core things that mattered. The other thing that they had that we just do not have is they had a robust religious atmosphere. Right. Christianity was the impetus for the entire revolution because the founders looked and saw that the Bible says in Genesis, all men are created equal in God's image. Right. If all men are created in God's image, all men must be equal. They applied that fundamental Christian teaching to every single thing they did. That was the basis for the entire revolution. We don't have politicians, one that are that religious, that understand religion and theology that deeply, and they don't really have a compass to guide them except for whatever is, you know, the flavor of the month. And that's the problem.

[Clay Travis]

What is, if you're giving some recos here, other than your two minutes of history, which I think a lot of people now are going to be going to check out, what are some either books, series or movies on the revolution that you would recommend to an audience of history super nerds.

[Brianna Lyman]

Well, I think my first go to place is go to Claremont Institute. I just did a fellowship this year. They are the premier thinkers of enlightenment, ideology and of the founding. And they have a ton of stuff, you know, Charles Kessler, Glenn Elmer. These are people that understand the founding in a way no one else does. They have videos, articles. You go watch that. There's a great book called the Cause. I'm drawing a blank on the name. I think it's by a guy with the first name John, but I'll tweet that out. I think also it's fun to watch movies like the Patriot, like Gettysburg. I know Gettysburg is obviously about the Civil War, but it really shows you because the Civil War was the last battle of the revolution. If we think about the Revolution as being all men are created equal. So those are really good movies just to kind of put you in that spirit and give you a backdrop that you may not necessarily get before you go dig into those deep and heavy readings.

[Clay Travis]

I have the Road to Charleston here, Clay. I'm looking at it. It's on the top of my next up stack. I have a stack of. I have stacks of books that are my. That's how I arrange these things. And I have the Road to Charleston just off camera, which gets into a whole lot of things, including the British huffiness about officers being shot that you see in the Patriot. That was a real thing. They actually thought, hey, how dare you shoot our officers? And the Americans were like, yeah, dude, we're shooting your officers.

[Buck Sexton]

By the way, the book the Cause is what you were referencing. The American Revolution and Its Discontents, I believe by Joseph Ellis. And I know we brought you on to talk Revolutionary War, but I know you also are a Civil War person. Did you see Tim Walls refer to the current situation in Minneapolis as the equivalent of the day of the Battle of Gettysburg? Brianna?

[Brianna Lyman]

Oh, believe me, I did. And that was the most reckless thing. On top of calling this a murder that Tim Wallace or the Democrats could do, because we have watched over the past, what, two years, Democrats make clear they're in an open rebellion against the federal government and against federal immigration law. And then he doubles down on that and publicly basically says we're in like a little quasi civil war at the federal government. If that is the case, then President Trump needs to respond accordingly to states that clearly want to secede.

[Clay Travis]

There we go.

[Buck Sexton]

Good. Find her at the Federalist. Brianna Lyman. Fantastic stuff. We'll have you on again and again. Two minutes maybe. You got kids or grandkids out there that don't have great long term commitment to history. You can share some of these videos with her, including the Thomas Paine information today. Thank you, Brianna.

[Brianna Lyman]

Thanks so much.

[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We've got some talkbacks racked and stacked. We want to get to them, including from our own producer. Well, he's a different producer. Well, producer Michael, we got producer Mike. We got producer Michael. We will hear from him. Producer Michael in He's a Chicago native. This is why that that's relevant here. This is kk. He wanted to weigh in Clay and Buck.

[Buck Sexton]

It's producer Mike here in Chicago and we have the worst liquor in America. It's called Malort. It's like licking a tire after chewing aspirin. It's like cough syrup and betrayal. Had a baby. It is awful. And the worst part is when you come to Chicago, if you go to a bar, first thing anybody's going to want to do is go two shots of Malort. Watch everybody around the bar. They'll be watching out of the corner of their eye because they know.

[Caller]

Oh, they know.

[Buck Sexton]

Happy New Year, guys.

[Caller]

Have a good one.

[Clay Travis]

Happy New Year, man. Clay, I have. Have you ever even heard of Malort?

[Buck Sexton]

Never have heard of it in my life. And I feel like, you know what I hear you.

[Clay Travis]

You know what I hear goes great with Malort? Polish sausage. What you're. You're Chicago's the Polish sausage capital of America.

[Buck Sexton]

I'll just toss this out there. I bet there's been a lot of Polish sausage and Malort combos over the years. I bet one leads to the other quite frequently. For those who have forgotten, I wasn't on air when Buck said that his roommate introduced him to Polish sausage.

[Clay Travis]

I had a Chicago. I actually had two Chicago roommates and one of them introduced me to polish.

[Buck Sexton]

His college roommate introduced him to Polish sausage. And the clip I got it sent to me, I think I was out. I was out shopping.

[Clay Travis]

I think that week we were probably talking about, you know, something really important to save the Republic. And our inbox was dominated by Polish sausage jokes. So there's that. Or, or, or advice on how to cook the perfect Polish sausage, depending on. On how you take it. We got. You want to take some of these calls here?

[Buck Sexton]

Well, yeah, we've got a couple of talkbacks, by the way, that also echo I believe what producer Mike just said there. And I'm trying to pull them up right now. Aaa Somebody else is. Is that what he just said?

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

A.

[Clay Travis]

A Listen, you guys dropped the ball yesterday. The absolute worst liquor that exists on the planet is Jepson's Malort. Give it a whirl.

[Buck Sexton]

Again. This exact same thing. We got a bunch of people who were calling in and saying that you and I were talking about off air Jaeger is awful. Bacardi151, I think is up there with.

[Clay Travis]

Even saying take the enamel off your teeth. Man, that stuff is rough.

[Buck Sexton]

That is. That is a tough one too. To. To. To. To be breaking out. We gotta. Let's see.

[Clay Travis]

Can I tell you what Malort. What Malort on the AI said says Malort is a notoriously bitter wormwood based Swedish snaps. That sounds horrible.

[Buck Sexton]

That does Sound awful. By the way, Jeff in North Carolina wants to. To give a you a cheesesteak recommendation since you have alienated the entire city of Philadelphia by claiming falsely that cheesesteaks are awful. Jeff.

[Caller]

Yeah, he's killing us up here. Hey, eastern Pennsylvania, maybe you have to ask for a cheesesteak with sauce and onions. Probably American cheese. Coopersburg firehouse probably has the best freaking cheesesteak. I'm 55 years old. I've been eating them since I was born. Hands down. If you ever ate that, you would just be. You would be in heaven.

[Clay Travis]

All right.

[Caller]

With some thick steak fries.

[Clay Travis]

That all sounds delicious. I just. I was directed toward those famous places in Philly to go to when I.

[Buck Sexton]

Visited Pats and Geno's. They're great. I disagree with Buck. He's wrong on this one.

[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

So, hmm, that would seem to be a very relevant thing. So really the story seems to be two suspected illegal alien gang members tried to run over cops with their car and cops fired at them. That is not though the way that it's promoted by these left wing news sites. And here is the governor. The governor of Oregon is clearly a communist menace. Tina Kotek play 24 we are standing.

[Buck Sexton]

Here today united as a state, wanting peace and safety in our communities. We are all shaken and outraged by another terrible, unnecessary violent event instigated by the reckless agenda of the Trump administration. This time in our own state, in our largest city, coming just one day after the tragedy in Minnesota.

[Clay Travis]

Clay, unnecessary blaming cops for this. Let's think about this for a second. Do what is more likely that this CBP officer decided to shoot two people for no reason or that the two gang members who are illegals with detainee detain orders and expulsion orders from the country tried to make a run for it and put the cop in jeopardy. And do we think that when that comes out, as it obviously and inevitably will, is the governor going to make an apology? I mean we just have to hold these people to account.

[Buck Sexton]

Look, they don't care about the truth. And this is again what I would say is so significant about this. By the time this video is now out and the Department of it is 100% confirmed to be accurate. DHS has said and now shared watch. So they have shared this Video. Just to be fair with everybody out there, we said it's 99.9%. Like we're not experts. But this clearly appears to be this agent's footage. And CNN has aired it.

[Clay Travis]

It.

[Buck Sexton]

Fox News has aired it. Right now. I have not seen a airing of msnbc. Some of you have tweeted me and said that they have aired it. They are not airing this video very much. It's possible I missed it. I've got the quad screen in front of me. Obviously, we're doing a live radio show, and I don't see every single guest or every single segment of every network, but they certainly are not covering it in earnest. And he. The mayor just said at a press conference they killed somebody. So again, they're trying to make it seem as if this person was innocent and did nothing wrong, when again, I would encourage you all to go watch this video. And the same thing is happening with Portland. They want this to happen.

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[Buck Sexton]

This is really important. I think as we head into the weekend, many of you realize this, but this is where we are. Left wingers would gladly have ICE agents kill innocent people. They would sign up for that in a heartbeat because politically, it would advantage them. So in their ideal world, someone who is an ICE agent would pull out a gun and just kill someone who's 100% innocent that did absolutely nothing wrong. Because they want the political advantage from this. That's the reality, and that's the entire basis under which this behavior is occurring. Why I. The whole idea that we have allowed this to be a situation that exists where someone would just take their car, block a roadway and get out and start videoing all of the ICE agents. They're hoping that there is some sort of violent confrontation. That's the goal. This woman's wife. Drive, baby, drive. She wanted there to be a confrontation. Her spouse got killed because they created this accelerant situation and they want this to happen everywhere. And Buck, your point is Portland, it wasn't even ICE involved. It was the Border Patrol, Customs and Border Protection. Yeah. So they initially just wanted this story out there that ICE was also shooting somebody, and it's gang bangers from Trend. And they're refusing to comply with these demands. And they want. Look, they want accelerants to occur. They want these situations to be created so that they can gain political advantage from them.

[Clay Travis]

Just to give you a full sense of the commie idiocy out there on this whole situation that is unfolding. Mamdani Kami Mamdani in New York. This is cut 22. He's straight up saying that it was murder that Ice committed. Play it.

[Mamdani Kami Mamdani]

If that is following his training, then I think there are larger questions about the training that's being provided to ICE agents. I think we can all see that video and come to our own conclusions that that ICE agent murdered a woman in Minneapolis. And it is a glimpse into what has been a year full of cruelty. And I think what many New Yorkers woke up with feeling today was a heightened sense of anxiety and fear as to whether they were safe in leaving their homes. I know that's especially true for immigrant New Yorkers, of which there are more than 3 million, including myself. And it is clear to myself and to so many across this country, as I've shared with the President directly, that these ICE raids are cruel and inhumane and they do nothing to further the cause or the interest of public safety.

[Clay Travis]

Look at how they speak first. I mean, there's so much that he says here that Dr. That really drives me up the wall and is rage inducing. The biggest thing, of course, that. That this woman was murdered. She absolutely was not murdered. I don't know what else needs to be. We have the body cam footage. We can see what happened here. She wasn't murdered. What she did was stupid. You know, I wish she was still alive. I wish it had. But like I said, if you do certain things, you know, if you walk up to a cop and you say and you pull out, you know, you reach into your waistband and you pull out a ray gun and say bang. And the cop simultaneously pulls out a gun and shoots you. Yeah. Technically, you weren't able to actually hurt him, but there's no reason for him to know that. And that's on you. Like. Yes, you don't have to wait. Murder by cop. A lot of the. Or, sorry, suicide by cop. Rather, people will do that. They'll actually make it so that the officer has no choice but to shoot, because otherwise they're going to get shot themselves or they are in fear of being shot themselves. Mamdani is a moron. That is. That is. Well, when it comes to law enforcement, that's actually a completely true statement. He knows nothing. But also, Clay, it's cruel to enforce immigration law. Is there a. So does everyone get to stay? What is the way you enforce the law that says people are not allowed to be here and be ripping off our system and ripping off our fellow Americans? And a whole bunch of them are causing crime, by the way, including heinous crimes like what happened to Lake And Riley and many, many others. What is the nice way to do this? I just want to. Do they have any sense that law enforcement is force? There must be force involved.

[Buck Sexton]

I mean, I would just take it out of ICE and just ask all of you out there, if you saw police in your neighborhood conducting a police raid or a police incident, would you ever think I should park my car perpendicular in the road near them and refuse to comply with what the officer said while that incident, that raid or whatever activity was taking place? I think almost everyone out there would say no, of course not. That that would be ludicrous. And if you were injured or a police officer did something to you as a part of that, you would expect to get arrested or you would expect that there might be a danger there. They are wanting this to occur. This wasn't an accident. They've been training people for how to antagonize ICE agents. It's why they have their cameras out. I mean, you should be skeptical. Buck. You and I would be skeptical. All of us would be skeptical. If you're walking down the road and somebody comes up to you with their camera already on record and they're not full on media, right. You're not walking into a news sort of situation and somebody's just recording you. This whole idea of I'm going to take my phone out and I'm going to record you and I'm going to try to antagonize you. It's an idea that has taken root that is basically the foundation of left wing activism. And they're trying to create the situation. This woman's wife recorded her getting killed and encouraged her to engage in the behavior on video that led directly to her death. I think there is an argument that when she said, drive, baby, drive. I think there is an argument that she committed a crime because she directly encouraged her spouse to engage in a criminal activity while recording it. And she thinks she's the good person. That's what the legacy media all told us. Oh, these guys are the good people. I mean, again, my concern is there's going to be a lot more of these because they want them to occur.

[Clay Travis]

Well, of course, I think that's definitely the case. I mean, the fact that they have these people, what, ICE warriors or something that they call this individual, there's some term for these, you know, obstructors of. Yeah, ICE Watch Warrior is what they call themselves. And they. They think that they have a right to obstruct law enforcement. I would just also, Clay, compare this situation of obstruction to when civilians, just everyday folks, block like the pathway or the walkway to an abortion clinic. Democrats will lock you up for years. The Biden administration locked people up for years for being in the way. Being in the way. They didn't hit anybody, they didn't hurt anybody, they didn't attack anybody. They were obstructing access because there is a federal law, which by the way, I might add, should not be a federal law, but that's a whole other thing. There's a federal law that says you cannot obstruct access to the sacred rights r I t e of abortion clinics. They'll send you to prison for years for this. But ICE operations, you can stand in the middle of those and try to, I mean, we keep saying this, this is like I said this judge, these people are actively subverting the law. And the same law that they subvert is the law that says that we have to pay and deal with the taxes and the regulations and everything else. We, the productive and law abiding members of America have to deal with all of that to pay for these illegals to show up here and turn it into a giant welfare state and to dissolve the bonds of Americanness that only exist because we, the American people, have some things in common, including obeying the rule of law. I, you know, I have just, I have no patience for this stuff at all. 0 I, I, I said it. I think Trump should invite this ICE officer to the State of the Union. I think we should have a total solidarity with this guy. Did nothing wrong. Did nothing wrong. In fact, did his duty. Did his duty, Upheld his oath. I'm sorry that it had a sad day for, for people and I'm sorry for the family, the woman who lost her life. But he acted in accordance with our laws. We either have laws or we don't have a civilization.

[Buck Sexton]

I agree with that idea in theory. My only concern with inviting him to the State of the Union next month.

[Clay Travis]

I don't know if his identity is going to get out there.

[Buck Sexton]

Do you make it, do you make it more of a target for the crazy people out there? I would understand why his family, Trump.

[Clay Travis]

Could also invite him in absentia and just make a statement about how, you know, I'd like him to be there and we could have a stand in for him. So there you go.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We'll get to some of your calls. Several of you have been waiting for a while final segment of the week. Encourage you to go subscribe. Go download the podcast. Also, how about get out there and go check out Crockett color coffee crockett coffee.com sign up fabulous coffee. Maybe you need a little bit of an extra caffeine buzz in your life. We were just joking. I give credit to to let's see Breca stole who was on with us? I Buck was sharing a video of a crazy 50 year old woman being arrested. There's a 0% chance I'm protesting anything when the weather's cold outside. I didn't even go watch my favorite team play in the playoffs last year. Ohio State, Tennessee I wouldn't go sit outside in Columbus, Ohio, to watch a football game. There's a zero percent chance I'm walking around outdoors in the cold protesting anything. Quickly. Let me hit all of you here. Sue in Houston.

[Caller]

Hello.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Caller]

Yes, yes, hi. Thank you for doing this. Appreciate it. I want to mention the shooting in Minnesota that you're talking about. I would like to jog memories of whoever's listening and go back to July 15, 2017, when an unarmed innocent woman from Australia living in Minnesota was shot by a Somali officer.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes.

[Caller]

Point blank. She had done nothing wrong. She actually had called 911 to report a sexual assault happening in the alley behind her house. So she had come out when the cops arrived.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Caller]

And she was shot. So nobody talks about that. The officer probably got wrist slap.

[Buck Sexton]

I think he was. I think. Thank you for the call. We're coming to a break. My recollection on that sue is right and what she's building on is that was a white woman who was shot by a black police officer. Basically nothing happened in Minneapolis, by the.

[Clay Travis]

Way, Clay, the ice officer's identity is now out there everywhere. So.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah.

[Clay Travis]

Which I knew was going to happen. So now I really think Trump should invite him to the State of the Union because everyone knows who he is.

[Buck Sexton]

Let's. We'll get to your rest of your calls next week. We appreciate all of you talk back function always the best way to get to us. We got a bunch of good talkbacks. We'll get to you on Monday. Have safe weekends. Don't go protest anyone. Don't go try to stop anybody from arresting bad guys, as I know none of you will. And enjoy all the football coming up this weekend. I'm going to be watching every game. We'll be back with you on Monday, Buck. Have an awesome weekend.

[Clay Travis]

Thank you. I'm going to be checking out my beloved Hurricanes.

[Buck Sexton]

They already won. You're late.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Clay Travis]

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