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Lisa Booth
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Clay Travis
All right, third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off now and we're going to get into some of your calls, your talk backs and all that momentarily. I want to say that on the economy and how things are going for this administration, so far it has been excellent and I think we're just seeing the early stages of the Trump 2.0 economy. But there's that one little thing that has come up where Trump is unhappy and no surprise, when he is unhappy, he makes that quite known. And he went and called into CNBC's Squawk Box. Who's the right thinking fellow on the squawk box? I like him. He's smart.
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Buck Sexton
Joe Kernan.
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Clay Travis
Yes, Mr. Kernan. Thank you, Mr. Joe Kernan. And I meant that by correct thinking, but maybe, maybe right thinking as well, but definitely.
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Buck Sexton
I think you rarely see me get super excited to meet somebody. We met Joe Kernan at the inaugural events in D.C. and I was just like, I've been watching Joe Kernan on CNBC for my whole life, basically. So meeting him in person, I was, I was like a schoolgirl giddy. So anyway, I'm a fan of Joe Kernan's.
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Clay Travis
There you go. Indeed, indeed. And here he is on here, Trump is, the president on CNBC talking about this Bureau of Labor Statistics Throwdown Play:1.
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Jeremy Siegel
This is a response rate over the last 10, 12 years for the BLS Household Survey. It's dropped from 90% or so on time down to 60 and sometimes even lower. It's arguably the most important number we get about the economy. Yesterday we had Wharton Professor JEREMY Siegel on. Just bear with me, Mr. President. Listen to this.
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Clay Travis
I'm not going to let the BLS off the hook. I mean, you know, you talk about.
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Alex Marlow
How to fix it.
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Clay Travis
You don't make these questionnaires mandatory and give them a time limit to fill it up. I mean, I think the response rate sound to 60%. I mean, that's unacceptable for the most important statistic that we have. So, Clay, it seems like there are some out there who are willing to back Trump up with this way that we gauge jobs. There are problems with this and if anyone wants to disagree with that, explain why they have to revise dramatically month after month. The initial number and the actual number has been substantially less many, many times in a row. So I think that once again, people say, oh, how dare he? And Trump, he can't do that. It actually kind of reminds me of Clay. Tell Clay he can't do something, he'll do it. Trump, same deal. When you tell Trump you can't do that, sir, he goes, watch me.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, look, I think again, the success from the Trump economy, I was, I was reading and talking with some, some executives. This 100% expensing, which I know sounds super nerdy and a lot of people don't pay attention to, is going to add jet fuel to the next six to nine months of our economy. And so you can come back and look at this, say Clay said in August, I think by the time we are looking at May and June of next year and we are stepping into the official cycle of the midterms, I think it's going to be virtually impossible to argue that the economy is not firing on all cylinders. Now, there are things that can happen that are unfortunate that no president can ever. We talked about the multiverse, which is something they focus on in the.
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Clay Travis
Do you have a, do you have a systemic economic risk right now that worries you? Like, what is the. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
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Buck Sexton
No, I was just going to say that's a, that's the question. I was going to lead into February of 2020. We had the greatest economy in the history of the world. Covid happened. Nothing that Trump did was the cause of COVID Nothing that anybody in America other than Dr. Fauci potentially helping to fund gain of function research. My point on that, Clay being mean.
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Clay Travis
Once again, very mean, Clay.
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Buck Sexton
My point on that is it's a sort of black swan event where you aren't directly attributable to it. I mentioned earlier 9, 11, something that is outside the scope of any sort of expected Outcome is the only thing I see that could a virus, a terror attack that is substantial in nature that could derail the Trump economy. Because Buck, in the multiverse, if we could go back in time and Covid never happens, do you know how white hot the economy would have been in November of 2020 when everybody was going to go vote and Democrats had locked in Joe Biden? Trump would have won. And I know some of you are going to say he did, but I'm talking about there would have not been the remote voting. Biden wouldn't have gotten to hide in the basement. I really think the economy was poised for one of the greatest runs that we have ever seen. Covid happened and derailed a lot of that. I think if nothing happens, knock on wood, whatever proverbial positive thing you want to say to try to defray negativity from happening, throw some salt over your shoulder. I think by June of next year we're going to be firing economically on a level that we may never have seen before in the history of the United States. There's a lot of AI optimism. The fixed cost related to taxes, the 100% expensing for all these companies out there to be able to invest in hyper accelerating their efficiency and production. I think the tariff are the tariffs are all going to be locked in place and they're not having the incredibly devastating effect that everybody anticipated. I think the Fed is going to have to start lowering interest rates which is going to start to unfreeze the overall housing market. I just think that we are headed for an incredible economic boom that is not really being talked about enough. And I know we've talked about AI on this show, Buck, and I know you and I are far from tech geniuses in terms of being able to analyze and understand AI. I flagged something I was reading yesterday this potentially and in fact let me pull it up because I thought it was super interesting on the economic front that essentially we are seeing a level of investment that we have not seen that is changing the course of the of industry in the United States since railroads in the 1880s. This AI revolution. This is according to Phil Kadrosky, who is a tech founder, investor pundit. It we have already now exceeded the investment dollars that were put in play for the Internet. For those of you who all remember certainly the major impact of the Internet and we are advancing on the 1880s expenses that were required to basically cover the work, cover the United States and rail to allow us to transfer product and people at different rates of speed that this is Right now, the second biggest economic investment boom AI that we have seen only secondary to the railroads in the 1880s. I don't think that most people have factored this in yet. And so, you know, I know we had some negativity about, hey, what's going to happen with the lawfare and everything else. I just think the economic potential and the economic might of this country is about to be unlocked in a way that a lot of people are not recognizing yet. And so I put it down June of next year. I think we're going to be barring something that we can't control that is awful, like Covid or 9 11, outside of the scope of the president and the policy that he puts in place, I think that we are headed for boom. I really, I really do.
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Clay Travis
And here we have. We got more going here from this Trump interview. He spoke about the grand jury investigation, which I know a lot of you are weighing in on with emails and calls. We'll get some of this. Here's what President Trump said just this morning about the grand jury investigation into the Russia collusion hoax. This is cut four.
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Jeremy Siegel
The Justice Department now tapping a grand jury to look into the intelligence community's assessment of what was happening with Russia. Is that you have nothing to do with directing the Justice Department.
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Caller
No, nothing to do. Pam is doing a great job. I have nothing to do with it. I will tell you this. They deserve it. I was happy to hear it. I actually read it just like you did. I have nothing to do with it. But what they did in the election, what they did in even the last election, but it was too big to rig. But what they did in the 2020 election is, is grotesque.
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Clay Travis
So he's saying, look, not my thing. DOJ is handling it. We'll see where it goes. And there's the possibility, I think that this moves along to that. To that end, Clay, we got so many VIP emails on this one. Phil writes in, I honestly don't care if anyone is indicted in the probe. The process is the punishment. Remember, make them put up their homes for legal fees, confiscate their property, put them through the proverbial wringer. What do you, what do you think of that one?
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Buck Sexton
They're all going to have their legal fees covered by Democrat operatives. Look, I think you can argue, and this is why I donated money. The people who bear the brunt of legal costs are typically not rich people. This is why I donated to the Jan6 defendants. People think that Democrats are not going to line up and pay whatever it costs for their top officials to be covered, that George Soros is not going to stroke a check for $400 million or the George Soros equivalent. No one is going to be bankrupted in any way by legal fees. You said on air. I think it might have been off air, but it's basically one long conversation that we have. Barack Obama's worth $100 million. The idea that unless you're going to sue somebody civilly and it's a lawsuit and it's business expenses, those kind of things, which I'm putting on the side, nobody is going to get bankrupted inside of the Democrat Party because of legal fees. They're not going to allow it to happen. So I think the only thing that matters here is preserving the historic record and making it clear what was done. And this is why I've asked you this question a ton, hopefully trying to depoliticize the intelligence agencies going forward such that they actually are providing some measure of independent advice as opposed to just acting as an arm of the American political party in power. Now, historically, J. Edgar Hoover ran the FBI as his personal fiefdom. So we have had issues with intelligence gathering being used for political purposes basically as long as the intelligence agencies have existed. So I think what is going forward going to happen, I would like to think that people start to realize, hey, I don't serve a president or an administration. I serve the country. And I know that's why you went to the CIA. You weren't trying to say, hey, I want to just work for this president. You were saying, I want to stop 9, 11 from ever happening again. I want to catch the bad guys trying to kill people in this country. That's what I want everybody in the intelligence agency to be the focus of. Not, hey, I want Donald Trump in handcuffs or I want this J.D. vance or AOC or whoever you want to point to down the line. And that's what I worry about going forward at this point, correcting the historic record and figuring it out so that it doesn't happen.
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Clay Travis
To that end, Ernie writes in you guys are doing a great job. Let me just say, Ernie, excellent. Start to your VIP email. By analyzing each individual aspect of this process, though, you are missing the big picture. Trump knows there won't be any indictments. He's trying to correct the history books as it pertains to his legacy. I think it's brilliant. What do you think of my reasoning? Thanks for what you're doing for America. Well, Ernie, I think we sometimes this happens. We've been saying this all along, too, it's important that this information gets out there. I keep referring to it as political accountability, and, of course, part of that is legacy and what goes into the history books. Getting the truth out there is important, no matter what comes of the criminal prosecution side of this. And, Ernie, you know, I'm not 100% convinced there won't be any indictments that come down from this grand jury. And I don't think Trump knows one way or the other, because it's a grand jury. Right. Trump's not. He's not involved in any of that. So I think I see some of what you're saying there, but we're definitely aware of and would agree on the point that Trump wants to get the information out because of what happened to him. And the American people. Look, the American people. I know it was a closer election than it should have been in some ways, but repudiated lawfare in this. If Kamala Harris was sitting here as president, I'd be very worried about the future of the country, just based on the fact that they would have managed to use all this lawfare stuff successfully against Trump.
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Buck Sexton
I also think going forward, the grand jury could drag on for months. I mean, that's not uncommon when it comes to grand juries. You don't know how targeted the, the grand jury process is going to be. And I just think most people in this audience already know everything that happened with Russia. You mentioned you talked about it for years. I don't think there's any revelations so far that have been shocking to most people. The people who need to see it are all the MSNBC and New York Times readers, which is the ones that I said, what's their reaction going to be here? We were not surprised when they tried to indict Trump for what they indicted him for. We told you it was all coming. I don't know what their media are telling them and what their reaction is going to be.
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Clay Travis
I was, I don't know, eight years ago when I woke up one morning and I got all these text messages. They're like, you see what the big guy did? And I have no idea what they're talking about because it was groggy in the morning. I'm not a morning person. And Clay on it was all on Russia collusion stuff. I've been saying, you know, they abused fisa, they're clearly lying. They're using the spying powers. And I go back, it's all in the Twitter record. Trump retweeted me, I think, five or six times in a row on Russia collusion. Like his Twitter account was six retweets of Buck one morning. So that was eight years ago. So trust me, we're on it. Like we see this, we know we get the full extent of the dirty game. And if I had gone to work for this administration, which as I've been open with you, was a conversation certainly in 2020, an open conversation, I know that a big part of the job would have been what Tulsi and Ratcliffe are doing now at D as, DNI and dcia, which is looking into the Russia collusion scam and finally getting some accountability on that. But we were talking to the economy a few minutes ago and I just think it's so important that yes, Trump is doing great things, yes, we have to pay close attention to that, but we also have to do things ourselves for our own bank accounts, for our own financial futures. And that's where I think gold just plays a critical role. I've been a gold guy for a long time. I think my dad gave me a gold coin for the first time for my birthday. Maybe it was 15, 20 years ago now and I've had it and I've been a gold guy ever since. I buy my gold from Birch Gold Group. You want somebody you can trust with this, somebody who has great customer service and fantastic ratings and Better Business Bureau and that's Birch Gold. So they can help you make sense of investing in gold. They want you to right size things for your portfolio. This is about diversifying. It's not, you know, only gold. It's gold is a part of what you have. And also consider this, you can convert an existing IRA or 401k into a gold IRA with birch gold. Text my name buck do 989898 that's b u c k text buck do 989898 and birch gold will send you a free information kit today.
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Buck Sexton
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Caller
Obama's got to walk. He's the insurance policy. Because in the words of Vinnie Gambini, this is the Democrat Party. There ain't no way they're not going to try to prosecute and imprison Donald Trump. And my second point, hold on.
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Buck Sexton
You said you want Trump to pardon Obama because otherwise they're going to try to attack Trump.
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Caller
Don't even, no, no, no. Don't even go after him. They gotta let him walk Right now, he's not. He's not even gonna be involved. And I'd just like to make one other point. In the words of Hardy Keitel in the National Treasure movie, Somebody's got to go to jail, Jack, and it's gonna be John Brennan. He's the patsy for a spy. He's got the biggest mouth in Washington, and he's already dug his grave. Love you guys.
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Buck Sexton
Well, we'll see whether anybody ends up going to jail. I think that'll be an interesting debate. Chuck in Fort Benning, Georgia. Quickly, Chuck, what you got for us?
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Caller
Yeah, hey, peons like me down in the trenches fighting for conservative values on your local news website or social media. And all keep getting hit with, hey, Trump's on the Epstein list. Trump's pedophile. I'd like to see a Republican Congress or the current doj. Put Loretta Lynch, Merrick Garland, Kamala Harris. Put any of them on the stand under oath and ask.
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Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Alex Marlow joins us now. He's editor in chief of Breitbart News, host of the Alexander Marlo show podcast, new book Breaking the Law, which I'm holding up a copy of right here. You can all see by Alex Marlowe. Good day to be discussing it. Exposing the weaponization of America's legal system against Donald Trump. Mr. Marlowe, welcome the program. First time. What do you think happens at this stage of the effort to both expose and maybe get accountability for the lawfare?
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Alex Marlow
Gentlemen, first of all, thank you for having me. Buck and I share a agent, the great Craig Kitchen, radio legend. And I will tell you that I'm happy to talk about the book all you want, but I really just want to get on the show to tell you guys I'm out of dark roast and I want to make sure that I can get refill as soon as possible.
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Clay Travis
So we got a Crockett. We got a Crockett coffee guy in the mix, too. Fantastic. That's what we love to hear. So. But no, really, today, everyone's calling in. We're getting a little bit of heat from some quarters here, just trying to assess the likelihood of the grand jury. The grand jury may bring down indictments. I could see that happening. I wouldn't say likely, but possible on the Comer subpoenas. I think that's a little more of a stretch. But what do you see, not just with that, but the whole effort to root out and prevent the lawfare that we've seen from ever happening again.
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Alex Marlow
Yeah, I'm actually heartened by this. I know you guys are really terrific on social media. So you know this probably as well as anyone that a lot of the grassroots in our movement are totally cynical now. They don't believe anything will happen. They don't believe anyone will be held to account. And the left can just get away with anything. And I feel like there is a genuine effort finally from people with actual power to hold people accountable, that maybe that's not acceptable, that maybe the way things have been my entire adult life, so long as I've been politically cognizant where there have been two tiers of justice, maybe it's time to end now. Do I believe it? I'll believe it when I see it. I'll believe it when I finally see the perp walks and the handcuffs. But it does feel like this effort is not fake. It feels like this is a real effort. James Comer is a good man. I trust him to try to find the actual bodies if they're buried somewhere. And I think that we're off to a good start. Tulsi Gabbard as well, I think takes this really seriously. She's fearless. So I think there's some real opportunity. Of course, you'd be wrong if your doubts that Pam Bondi can bring in the goods at this point. But I'm happy to give her a shot. And I like the energy. The energy is very good and it's going to keep the base engaged.
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Buck Sexton
Okay, so what happens if that doesn't occur?
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
So one of the challenges that I think exists in all of public life and thanks for coming on with us and you have great taste in coffee, is what do we do when it comes to promises made, promises kept. Right. And when you over promise and I think there's no doubt that Pam Bondi, when she gave out the Epstein files, Phase one or whatever it was called to the influencers, she overpromised. I think she overpromised when she did the interviews with Fox News about what was on her desk, the files and what they were going to reveal. My concern here is if you say, hey, we're opening a Russiagate investigation, we're bringing in a grand jury, we're in paneling, a lot of people expect to see handcuffs, they expect to see arrest. Is there a danger of over promising and under delivering with this particular story?
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Alex Marlow
Absolutely there is. And the Pam Bondi phase one rollout where she kind of humiliated all of those influencers coming out of the west wing of the White House who were holding up the binders as if they had gotten some sort of a participation trophy. That was really terrible. She set those people up to look really bad. And I think that hurt her a lot. And I think that she's got to be super careful not to do that again. And it's sort of an unthinkable mistake. It's pretty mind blowing that that happened. And it does make you lose. But I'll tell you, as a civilian, as a media guy like you guys, I just want people engaged. I think that this is a long game. And if we're playing this over a decades long horizon, creating that civic engagement and creating that climate of fear for the left that you cannot break the law, you cannot violate the public trust, you cannot use your power to try to nefariously carry out unjust political means. And if you do, you're going to be, you could get indictments, you're going to get tied up in legal chaos, your life is going to be a living hell. I think that that's a positive development and it will get people motivated to stay engaged civically, go to the polls and keep voting out the bad guys. So I think the worst case scenario here is actually pretty good. The best case scenario, the perp rocks and the handcuffs. I would love to see it. But even if we don't, I still think this is positive culturally.
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Clay Travis
Tell us a bit about what you lay out here in the book. You've got broken scales. The trial that never should have happened, the woman. Is it mostly a deep dive into the lawfare that has happened, or do you get into more of the blueprint of the counter revolution, if you will? The counter strike.
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Alex Marlow
Yeah. So basically I start with a brief history of lafayer and I trace it back to Franklin Roosevelt and wanted to pack the court with more Supreme Court justices so that he could use that as an extra executive branch. And I trace it to Roe v. Wade, which was really the first big lafayer moment where a far left court took the most hot button issue of all hot button issues and took it out of the realm of debate and put it into the realm of civil rights. It led to a massive boom in abortions and was really sort of unprecedented. And then I take it to Joe Biden, who really is the godfather of modern lawfare with his borking of Robert Bork and the failed high tech lynching of Clarence Thomas to Obama and Holder and what they did to try to target conservative groups using the law instead of trying to uphold law and order in their streets. But the centerpiece is a deep dive on the six major cases against Donald Trump. And I trace the coordination all the way to the White House. In every single instance, the White House was was involved in the lawfare against Donald Trump, no doubt in order to try to subvert our democracy and rig the 2024 election. I think it's arguably the scandal of the century and it's getting paid no mind right now. And hopefully this culture where we're revisiting the Russiagate hoax, we're revisiting some of the horrible things that were done to President Trump in the past. We have to add this to the list because if the left had their way, they would have rigged the 2024 election using the law fir. And it was, it was the Biden White House that was doing it.
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Buck Sexton
I'm glad you brought this up because I actually think the most significant aspect of the 2016 story is the lies that they told in 2016 about Russia. Collusion allowed them to dismiss everything having to do with Hunter and Joe Biden and the laptop as all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. If 2016 hadn't happened, the lies they told there would not have allowed what I think was the even more consequential lies they told in 2020 to take root. I do think that is significant. So I want to get Your take on that second part of this. What does the future look like for intelligence? This is what Buck and I were just talking about. Buck obviously has a great deal of expertise on this, but where do we go from here? Because I think there are a lot of people out there saying, hey, I agree with you on everything 16, everything 20, but I'm concerned about what's going to happen in 28 and 32 and 36 going forward. How do we make sure that it isn't one long replication of what we saw happen in 16?
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Alex Marlow
Yeah, they connected. I'm really glad, Clay, that you made this connection, because I haven't even had a chance to make this connection. And we're just starting to do press for the book comes out today. So it's the. But this is a point I've been trying to get out there, which is that the. In the run up to 2024, where the party in power tried to stop the standard bearer of the other party from becoming president by jailing him and bankrupting him, that was only possible because they got away with everything in 2016. They believed they were untouchable. They believe that they could do such blatant coordination is having the top players in district courts go to the White House to meet with White House attorneys clandestinely in the middle of a trial. And. And the establishment media would say nothing about it. It would come and go in the news in two minutes, if it even got there at all. You did people like Jack Smith, who operated illegally. He was an illegal appointment and he was allowed to operate for 18 months with the full support of the US government. It was an unconstitutional appointment that was only even attempted because they got away with bloody murder in 2016. So we let them get away with it again. 2016, 2020, 2024. Of course, of course we should be very cynical that things are only going to get worse in 28 and 2032. And to your point about the intelligence, that's why the people who are the bad actors need to live in fear that if they're going to try to subvert our democracy and to use our intelligence agencies to subvert an American political party, the right, instead of doing their job and trying to protect our country, then they're going to have massive consequences. And to this point, they've had none.
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Buck Sexton
I think that's the super important part about this.
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Clay Travis
The book Breaking the Law, the author, Alex Marlowe, he's a New York Times bestseller. Go check out Breaking the Law. And Alex, thanks for being with us.
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Alex Marlow
My pleasure, guys. Thanks you.
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Buck Sexton
Thank you again, no doubt and a huge part of the continuing impact. I was watching Bill Hemmer today on Fox News. He is over in Gaza doing really good reporting about exactly what is going on in Israel as we hopefully move towards what we want to have be a ceasefire that eventually ends in far less death and danger for everyone in the Middle East. And that is what the IFCJ is trying to make happen every single day. They build bomb shelters in Israel to try to protect innocent people from being killed when there are all of the rockets being fired into Israel. I saw for myself the work they do to build these shelters and the impact they have. Danger remains prominent and filled with trepidation. If you live in Israel any given moment you could have to run hop in a bomb shelter, many of which have been provided by the ifcj. You can stand up on behalf of Israel and its citizens to keep them safe by going to 888-4488 IFCJ. That's 888488 IFCJ. You can also go online to IFCJ.org that's the International Fellowships of Christians and Jews. IFCJ.org keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast Clay and Buck Highlight Trump replays from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Go subscribe to the YouTube channel. Go subscribe to the Clay and Buck podcast feed, which has a collection of fabulous members. It's a larger network. And go to crockettcoffee.com and sign up today. Use code book. You get an autographed copy of my book and these things are almost gone. And then we'll be into the new book season. Let's have some fun. I have not even heard this fully yet. I saw the, the headline and I said, oh my goodness, this is going to be fun. Texas State Representative Jolanda Jones, who has fled the state to Illinois rather than half.
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Clay Travis
Yolanda.
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Buck Sexton
Jolanda. Jo.
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Clay Travis
Yolanda usually, I think, is how you know, is it Jolanda?
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Buck Sexton
According to our team, it is Jo Londa. So Yolanda is typically a. Is typically a name that would be popular, but this, according to our team, is Jolanda. Maybe I'm. Maybe it's pronounced.
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Clay Travis
No, no, you're probably right. You're probably right.
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Buck Sexton
She has fled the state to protest redistricting in Texas. She says this is just like the Holocaust.
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Jolanda Jones
Cut 29 and then integration happened and everybody thought they accept us. They don't accept us. They are showing us who they are. We should believe them and we better have the courage to stand up. Otherwise we will fall anything. And in this country we will be Defeated, deported. I mean, we will lose all of our rights. And if you think it can't happen, it can. And I will liken this to the Holocaust. People are like, well, how did the Holocaust happen? How was somebody in a position to kill all them people? Well, good people remain silent or, or good people didn't realize that what happens to them can very soon happen to me or somebody I love. And so you. And if so, even if you made it, man, you have an obligation to help people who can't, because God forbid they end up targeting you and your family.
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Buck Sexton
So Joe, Wanda. It is Joe. Joe, Wanda, but with a J. Joe Londa there saying, boy, if Texas redistricts, next thing that's going to happen is concentration camps. These people.
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Clay Travis
How far are Democrats from. I had to wait in line at the DMV for too long. It's basically the Holocaust. I just want to know what is really the. Like, what is the barrier? What is the. The, The.
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Buck Sexton
The.
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Clay Travis
The level that you have to reach for a Holocaust comparison now. You know, they didn't, they didn't have my favorite, you know, my favorite sneakers at the store I went to is basically the Holocaust. Yes.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, that's, that's where we are. And this is what we were having jokes about. But no one in America, Jolanda included, as a general rule, has any knowledge whatsoever of history. So everything has got to be analogized to the Nazis.
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Clay Travis
Imagine if I can, If I could. If I just. If I compared everything to, like, the. Like. Imagine if I compared it to another genocide, you know, and it was like, oh, you know, this is. It's like the Cambodian. It's like the Cambodian genocide out here, man. Like, it's. I've had to wait, you know, 15 minutes for my, My takeout order. People would be like, you're a sick weirdo. Like, why would you. It's nothing like the Cambodian genocide. Million people plus died, you know, brutal murder. But you can say, you can do this thing now. Among. Among. I will say Republicans don't, don't. I don't see this. I don't see our side going, oh, you know, I had to wait in traffic too long. It was basically the Holocaust. Like, Democrats will do this now.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, they totally do. And by the way, that is, as you were just laying out, that's their standard go to, because we'll play tomorrow. They're still trying to call Trump Hitler, which is funny in and of itself, but I think representative of how they have continued to fail. I think we have a funny talk Back here, we have a good talk.
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Clay Travis
We got some good VIP emails. Do the talk back first. But I got some emails lined up for you of the sartorial variety.
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Buck Sexton
Oh, no. Oh, no. What did we have? We had somebody who wanted to talk about Sydney Sweeney. Aa.
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Clay Travis
That's one good one, I think. Hey, Clay and Bucks, Brian from Jacksonville, love your show, but, man, today is not a good one.
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Alex Marlow
First hour and a half spent on.
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Clay Travis
Two topics that are going to lead to nothing. Let's talk about something important like Sydney Sweeney's boobs. There you go.
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Buck Sexton
We tried to try to break down the huge complexity, everybody. Russia collusion.
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Clay Travis
You know, we got all this guff last week about too much Clay boobs talk and now we get not enough boob. I don't know what to do. I'm trying to just keep it flowing, keep it moving.
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Buck Sexton
I didn't even know we got any negativity about that.
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Clay Travis
I got.
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Buck Sexton
Hey, talk about boobs more. What do you got? Talk back on clothes.
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Clay Travis
Oh, well, I got VIP emails on clothes. Melanie writes in. Saw Clay on the Will Kane show yesterday. I actually ran into the room just to see what he was wearing. Much better, exclamation point. So Melanie thinks you're taking notes and you're doing a good job, unlike Deborah, who says, buck, I love you, but that pale yellow jacket looks terrible. It doesn't flatter your complexion. Ask your wife for color advice. You have a cool or maybe neutral skin tone and need more vibrant or cooler colors. Pale yellow ain't working. How about blues or greens? Love you, Deborah. Love you, too. However, it is a cream colored jacket and I am here in South Florida, in Miami beach, no less, where we wear these kinds of jackets. And I don't want to always look exactly like the host because I have a closet full of navy blue jackets that I can wear. But, you know, sometimes we like to spice it up a little bit on the air. So I will take. How about this? I will take it under advisement and bless your heart.
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Buck Sexton
I like the bless your heart. You're sounding very much like a Southerner here. I. Most people would just prefer that you only be a navy or black in this audience.
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Clay Travis
I think I know, but that's doing.
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Buck Sexton
A disservice to the beautiful color palettes across the rainbow. Here is Josh in Oklahoma to close this out. More fun. What you got, Josh?
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Clay Travis
This question is for Clay. Why do you decide to die on these hills? First it's the leaf blowers, then it's the flute players, and now it's the attractive Kamala Harris takes. I respect the fact that you stand by your decisions and you're not swayed by any opinion at all. But I just gotta ask man, why the dedication to these things? I. I can't believe you're trolling with your Kamala take. I think. But you're not.
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Buck Sexton
60 year old Kamala Harris is far better looking than the average 60 year old woman in America. Is this a I don't even understand. That's a crazy take at all.
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Clay Travis
I don't. I don't even understand how we're still talking about this. How is this even getting anyone's attention out there? But here we are.
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Buck Sexton
I am being super kind to the beautiful Kamala.
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Lisa Booth
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