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Buck Sexton
Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now. And just moments ago there was conversation underway between, well, Trump, it's actually still going, but we have some of the latest for you on his discussion with Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine and the effort to end the Russia Ukraine war very much underway. Trump spearheading this. He is not tired of winning the peace. He's not tired of winning the peace. He wants to keep going and he is hoping to get to a ceasefire and a durable peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine. We will see if that happens. Let's work you through some of the latest of what Trump has said with respect to this meeting. Like I said, this is just from moments ago bringing you the latest here. This is cut 35, hit it.
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Donald Trump (quoted)
Be determined, but I would say most likely it's going to be a double meeting. It'll be a double meeting, but we will have the President Zelensky in touch. There's a lot of bad blood with the two presidents. And I'm not speaking out of turn when I say it. It's very. A very difficult situation. You know, we just settled the war. And after thousands of years, I guess people say anywhere from 500 to 3,000 years, and I was in rooms, as you saw, because you were with me. A lot of you were with me last week with leaders that didn't like each other, but they were able to get along. These two leaders do not like each other, and we want to make it comfortable for everybody. So one way or the other, we'll be involved in threes, but it may be separated.
Buck Sexton
Talking about the structure here, Clay, of how these conversations will be with. With Zelensky and Putin going forward. So he may be the full. The full on intermediary is what he's saying.
Clay Travis
Right. Have you ever been to these before, Buck? This is. I'm kind of grinning. You could see it. Grinning. Trump as the mediator is actually. If SNL did decent skits anymore, Trump as the mediator going back and forth between Zelensky and Putin would actually be a opportunity for great comedic skit making possibilities. Because if you've ever been to a mediation, some of you may have been through divorces. That's awful. A lot of times they are mediated. I did mediations back in the day when I was a lawyer. I'd never been the mediator. But basically, if the two parties are really angry, one party's like, I hope they die. And I hope they, you know, every minute they wake up for the rest of their life, their first thought is how much they got screwed by me. You go tell them that, and then the mediator walks back, he's like, there's a lot of passion. Um, but I think we've got something here. You know, you just have to basically totally lie to both sides that are furious and angry, and they just want to vent and they want everybody to hear their side. So the idea of Trump as, like, the, you know, really thoughtful. Okay, okay. And then he goes back and he just lies, you know, to try to make the two parties seem like they aren't as far apart as they actually are, in an effort to ultimately bring them together is very comedically entertaining, but that's where we are. I think Zelensky and Putin hate each other, as you could well imagine. And Trump now has to somehow be the bridge of. Across that river of discord and animosity. And what it's funny about it as well is this is the exact opposite of what most people in legacy media see Trump as. But I think he sees himself as someone that can be a bridge to diplomacy. And so that's where we are. And that's. I'm kind of laughing just thinking about Trump as the ultimate adult in the room trying to mediate this very serious disagreement which has frankly cost hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides. And he's the adult and he's the one who's gonna be trying to tamp down the emotion as opposed to being the emotional sort of lightning rod, as he often is in many other different political disputes.
Buck Sexton
Well, I think this also speaks to the way these two leaders feel about each other and the trust or lack thereof that exists between them. This is Zelensky saying that he wants security guarantees if he's going to meet with Putin. Play 36.
Volodymyr Zelensky (quoted)
I think we need to sit and speak. The second point, we need ceasefire. Even now, you see in the Middle east, it's very difficult to hold ceasefire everywhere. In every war, it's very difficult. We want this. Putin doesn't want. That's why we need pressure on it. We will speak with president today. What we need, we understand what we need to push Putin to negotiation table. And as I said previously, so we are ready to speak in any kind of format, bilateral, trilateral, doesn't matter, matter, just peace. This is important. And we don't speak about NATO or Nate. NATO for Ukrainians is very important. Of course, it's our decision, decisions of allies to decide who. Where we are. But the most important thing, the most important thing for people in Ukraine, which are under each day's attacks, to have really strong security guarantees. NATO is the best, but weapon is very important. Allies on our side is very important. And between us, for us, bilateral security guarantees between me and President Trump is very important.
Buck Sexton
I'm sorry if it's a little hard. I just mean this little hard to understand. His accent is pretty thick, but he's just saying, look, you know, I want to meet with Putin, but we gotta. Basically, he knows that unless there are other parties involved here who are willing to drop the hammer on Russia if it comes to it, whatever Putin signs is not worth the paper it's. It's printed on.
Clay Travis
Correct. And this is where I think Putin. This is my prediction because he respects Trump and because he actually, on some level, fears how Trump might respond to him, may be willing to enter into some form of agreement. The problem is Trump is going to leave office in January of 29. We saw what happened when Trump left office last time. Putin can play the long game. He can do the next 15 years. I don't know how long he's going to be in power. But I don't see any immediate threat to Vladimir Putin's reign. And I am a bit concerned that that's what Hamas is doing in the Middle east too, is they respect Trump and they fear Trump. And if we got, let's just say it, a President Kamala Harris, God forbid, or President Gavin Newsom or President Mayor Pete or President Aoc, do you think that the people of Hamas are going to respect those Democrat leaders? Do you think that Vladimir Putin is going to fear those Democrat leaders? I would submit to you that there is tangible evidence they will not and do not. And so is there a concern? I think that Zelensky is correct to point this out that we may get a short term peace agreement, but as soon as Trump is out of office and there is a perception of weakness, again, it's taken advantage of. Let me also point something else out about this buck that I think is, is super interesting. Remember when they said that Zelensky and Trump would never be able to interact again? Wasn't that long ago that we had the couch meeting with, with J.D. vance and everything kind of came undone on the minerals rights agreement. And everybody just said, oh, my goodness, how is this ever. And now they're boys, Zelensky showing up in the black suit. They're sitting there side by side. The media very often takes Trump as if what position he adopts in the moment is going to exist forever. When Trump as a negotiator has shown throughout his entire political career that he is willing to adjust on a regular basis. And let me also play this cut. Um, it's one thing to talk about security guarantees. We talk about military force, which certainly Putin respects. We're not gonna put boots on the ground, but economic force is a reality, too. If this is true, then this is a really significant announcement that Trump just made in the Oval Office. Cut 37. He says India is done buying Russian oil and gas. Let's play that.
Donald Trump (quoted)
Well, India is not going to be buying Russian oil anymore. And Hungary is sort of stuck because they have one pipeline. It's been there for years and years and years. And they're inland. They don't have sea. They don't have sea. And I spoke with the very great leader of Hungary and they are, you know, it's very hard for them to get oil. I understand it. We have. Hungary is in a very interesting position because they can't have ports, you know, they're surrounded by land. So we'll see what happens there. But India will not be buying oil from Russia and they've already de escalated and they've more or less stopped. They're pulling back. They bought about 38% of the oil and they won't be doing it anymore.
Clay Travis
Okay, if that's true, Buck, then we talked about this earlier in the week and I don't think it's gotten enough discussion. Russia has sanctions against its ability to sell oil and gas. One of the primary ways they have gotten around those sanctions is by selling at a reduced cost to India and then India marks the oil and gas back up to real rates and act as effectively as a middleman with a guaranteed profit, which, hey, heck, a lot of you out there that are business people, you're like, man, I'd like to get that deal. Buy the oil and gas at a reduced rate. No, you have a huge market for it to mark up and all you basically have to do is transfer ownership. It's a default clear revocation and, and an avoidance of the oil and gas tariffs. And so if this is true, if India, which is basically been the default market for Russian oil and gas, is truly not going to buy it anymore, then this would start to put some economic power and restrictions on Putin.
Buck Sexton
This is the big one, two punch that needs to happen here. Putin's not going to do this because he's not going to call for, rather agree to a cease fire, any kind of meaningful deal while he thinks he's going to keep winning. Right. While he thinks that the situation on the battlefield and for Russia is beneficial to keep this thing going. And he clearly believes that as of now or has believed that up to this point. And so Clay, you're talking about raising the economic cost, which means going after the ways that Russia has evaded sanctions, really, you know, with very little pain to the, to Russian economy because people want oil. And to your point, there's a way to buy oil and sell it back and make money. I mean, there's going to be ways to do this. Right?
Clay Travis
It's a good business, Buck. I'm not going to lie. The middleman business of getting guaranteed reduced rate oil and then being able to immediately sell it that to buyers who can't buy it from Russia, but they can buy it from you. I mean it's a, it's, it's clearly a great business.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, it's canvas, can't miss situation. A situation. But that's step one of this the next step would be ok, beyond the economic. Maybe we just got to let Russia know that Ukraine's now got stuff that they can really hit Russia with, including in the Russian interior. Trump is talking about this, everybody. Tomahawk missiles. Here's what he said. Play 38.
Donald Trump (quoted)
We need Tomahawks and we need a lot of other things that we've been sending over the last four years to Ukraine. We've been, you know, we gave, we gave them a lot. Now we have a different situation. We send it to the European Union, they pay for it and all that. And they have plenty of money. But we, it's beyond the money. You know, we need Tomahawk. So we need a lot of other weapons that we're sending to Ukraine. And one of the reasons we want to get this war over is exactly that. It's not easy for us to give you talking about massive numbers of very powerful weapons. So that's one of the things we'll be talking about. Hopefully they won't need it. Hopefully we'll be able to get the war over with without thinking about Tomahawks. I think, I think we're getting fair. I think we're fairly close to that.
Buck Sexton
Get the war ended without giving Ukraine Tomahawk missiles. Any of you who have seen the movie Under Siege very familiar with the Tomahawk missile system because it plays a large role in that movie. That's serious hardware that goes a long way and packs quite a punch.
Clay Travis
No doubt. And Trump also just weighed in on Maduro and we're going to have to edit what he said, but basically he doesn't like the cards that Maduro has in Venezuela either. And Buck, I think it's worth noting you think some of these guys after Trump let the bombing of Iran happened thought to themselves. Oh, I don't want to screw around with the US because they've got a guy who will rain down holy hell on us and is not afraid to do it. You know, not only was that the right decision as it pertains to Iran, it was also the right decision as it pertains to sending the message about what you're willing to do going forward. By the way, we're going to talk with Nicole Parker about the FBI. John Bolton charges probably some of that more as we progress. But I want to tell you right now, we're going to Rapid radios make a tremendous difference in your ability to communicate safely with your family, even in the event of catastrophe. You know, these rapid radios hold their charge for five days. It means if the power goes out. You have rapid radios able to communicate with for five days and you don't ever know when the power is going to go out or how long the power is going to go out. Heck, hurricanes can hit North Carolina. We just had the power go out here in Florida all the other day. In on the panhandle last night. Couldn't get a charge, couldn't get anything taken care of. We've got rapid radios for our 11 year old because we wanted to be able to get in touch with him because what happens if the charges are out and you're not able to get your cell phone charged? Makes a tremendous difference. It's smart. It's just another way to help protect your family in the event of catastrophe. They work nationwide. You can also, like I said, share them with young kids. Remember how much we used to like when we were kids we had those cheap GI Joe walkie talkies and we'd run around talking back and forth while we played in the yard. Your kids like walkie talkies? They're cool. Your family can easily understand them. Get hooked up now at rapidradios.com code radio that's rapid radios.com code radio 60% off free shipping from Michigan. These guys are fantastic American patriots and they built a great American company. Rapidradios.com code radio that's rapidradios.com code radio sometimes all you can do is laugh and they do a lot of it with the Sunday hang. Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up in the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Leon Neyfakh
When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes or just asked why Benghazi?
Buck Sexton
The truth became a web of lies.
Leon Neyfakh
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Clay Travis
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Leon Neyfakh
Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit.
Clay Travis
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.
Leon Neyfakh
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Clay Travis
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
Leon Neyfakh
I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.
Nicole Parker
What difference at this point does it make?
Clay Travis
Yes, that's right. Lock her up.
Leon Neyfakh
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Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. One more cut. I'm going to play for you guys. In a moment, we're going to be joined by Nicole Parker from the FBI. She's got a new book out about her experience in the FBI. We're going to talk to her at the bottom of the hour. But Buck, I wanted to Wish A happy 81st birthday to my dad who is celebrating his 81st birthday today in Nashville. He's got, he and my mom just moved into a new place which is exciting. And so happy 81st birthday to my dad. Norm Travis on hitting 81. I know he and mom are gonna have a, a good time celebrating that. So, so happy birthday, dad. And thanks for being such an awesome dad. Now, Donald Trump. Also, Data5 has a take here on Nicholas Maduro. Buck, that I thought tied in a bit with our conversation we just had last hour with Dave Rutherford. What does Trump have as a message for the Maduro regime in Venezuela? This is cut 39.
Volodymyr Zelensky (quoted)
Maduro offered everything in his country, all the natural resources. He even recorded a message to you in English recently offering mediation.
Donald Trump (quoted)
He has, he has offered everything. He's offered everything. You're right. You know why? Because he doesn't want to around with the United States. Thank you, everybody.
Clay Travis
Trump, with the mic drop on the way out, we had to bleep the president but the White House has shared that clip with the message F A F O which we can't explain fully, but I think you might be able to figure out what exactly that stands for. And pretty clear message to Maduro there from President Trump. And we just talked about this with Rutherford.
Buck Sexton
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in, everybody to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. We are joined now by former FBI agent Nicole Parker. She's got a new book out. The two FBI's the bravery and betrayal I saw in my time at the Bureau. So you can go check out your copy of that one, Nicole. Let's start with this one. You've looked at the national security side of what the Bureau does before many times. What's your first read of Ambassador or former Ambassador Bolton with this indictment on the classified information in his home?
Nicole Parker
I think it's a solid indictment. I think that this is something that the FBI has likely been looking into it for a very long period of time. But as we know, having worked at the FBI, they pretty much put the brakes on a lot of cases and investigations that should have been indicted a long time ago under the Biden administration. And so now we've got a fair doj, right? We've got Attorney General Pam Bondi, FBI Director Cash Patel, and they're getting in there and they're actually enforcing the law equally and fairly. And that's something very foreign to us, especially at the FBI. We didn't see a lot of that equal enforcement of the law. And so let's see what happens. I mean, you know, they always say that you can indict a ham sandwich, which is true. You know, the threshold that you have to meet is just probable cause, you know, as opposed to proving beyond a reasonable doubt at trial. But based on my understanding and what I've read, it's a very solid indictment.
Clay Travis
How optimistic are you that things are starting to get back on the right foot? Thanks for coming on with us. You've got a book. You've spent time in the FBI. You've told your story about why you went there on the show before. Are you optimistic that things are changing as it pertains to the culture that Cash and Dan Bongino are trying to bring to bear? And what have you seen, if that is true, to suggest to you that it's happening?
Nicole Parker
Okay, that's a great question. And I wish that my book had come out a year ago before the election. But you know, we're a year late, basically, in my opinion. But that's okay. It's perfect timing. Because I think what it does is it details a lot of the frustration that I had working at the FBI. And I basically represent the voice of FBI1, the solid FBI agents who are just trying to do the good work as opposed to FBI 2, the politically and socially weaponized agents. And I detail, step by step, things that I personally was highly disturbed by. And writing this book and seeing the new administration come in, it's very. I have to say, I have hope because there are a lot of things in that book that just drove us. We were so frustrated, we were ticked off, we were angry. There was literally like a civil war going on within the FBI. You know, the two opposing sides, FBI 1 versus FBI 2. And as I've watched what Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Dan Bongino and others have done, slowly but surely it's going to take time, but I am seeing things check. You know, the diversity initiative that was going on at the bureau, it was off the charts. I mean, I started feeling like I work for social justice warrior club rather than the number one law enforcement agency in the world. And they have completely obliterated those programs. That in and of itself is a huge plus for the bureau. And seeing these indictments coming out, you know, I'm kind of sick and tired of people on the left saying, you know, this is political retribution. Actually, what this is is this is accountability and it's equal enforcement of the law, and it's very long overdue. And so, no, this is not political retribution. This is what should have been happening all along. And so these are examples, you know, seeing Jim Comey get indicted, you know, watching John Bolton people that they were untouchable under the last administration. And frankly, since all of this occurred, I'd say for the last at least 10 years, those are the steps that they're taking. And then I think another really important thing is I think slowly but surely they're rooting out the deep state from the FBI. And that's a daunting task. I mean, this, this didn't happen overnight. This, this what, what they've created and the mess that they're being asked to clean up. This has been going on for over a decade. And so I, I am hopeful and I think my book will be interesting to you American people, because I worked under Obama, Trump and Biden, and I worked under multiple FBI directors. And to see the progress that they have made in such a short period of time, I mean, they've captured four people off of the FBI's most wanted list since January. That's as many as Biden captured in four years. I mean, it's pretty awesome, but it's going to take time. And it's just the reality of it. They've got a lot to do, but they're working tirelessly. So I do feel a sense of hope. But I do think my book is kind of something that they can even use and say, look, how are we doing on this? How are we doing on that? But I do think that they're making significant progress.
Buck Sexton
And one thing that I remember hearing, Nicole, when Comey was the, really, at one point in time, the chief of the hashtag resistance against Donald Trump, right? He was this big figure of admiration for MSNBC and the New York Times was that when he got fired.
Clay Travis
There.
Buck Sexton
Was this story that was always being circulated by the Democrat media of, oh my gosh, all the agents are just crying in the hallways because Comey is gone. What's the truth of that? Yes or no or what can you tell us?
Nicole Parker
Excellent question. And I'll tell you right now, that's what my book's about. FBI won. We were cheering, celebrating, because he single handedly was the one that destroyed the FBI. And frankly, it's never recovered. FBI one agents like myself were like, thank goodness. Thank you, President Trump. This is absolutely justified. Get him out of here. FBI too, they were the ones that were crying and so upset and this is not fair. And they literally had mugs and T shirts and all this paraphernalia that said Comey's homies. That's how you could tell at the Bureau. And it is, it literally is like you're either on one side or you're on the other. So I would say it's a mix, right? I'd say if the FBI was probably 50, 50, but it really did feel like an internal civil war. Like you would think that you were working for two different agencies based on what side of the spectrum you are. And it really wasn't always based on politics either. I mean, I worked with some outstanding agents who I don't share political views with. The key is, can you put aside your political persuasions and do a fair and unbiased investigation? And frankly, many of these agents of FBI too were incapable of doing that. I mean, look at Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Andrew McCabe, James Comey. The list goes on and on and on. And you'll read in my book, cases where I worked to protect Democrats. I didn't say, oh, you know, I'm not going to protect you because we don't share political views. That's not the way it works. That's not the way the law works. But unfortunately, that's how FBI2 worked and that's how they destroyed the agency.
Clay Travis
How much should we be concerned, Nicole? Let's say that somehow the Democrats win back. And again, this is kind of goes to the culture. Are we in a world now where the FBI culture swings wildly based on who the President is, or do you think the culture can be fixed where the president doesn't matter? In other words, right now, everything's Great. Trump's president. January 2029. A Democrat comes in. Kamala Harris, AOC Gavin Newsom, insert name here. How much should we be concerned that the culture just flips right back to what it was when it was broken?
Nicole Parker
That's a genuine concern. That's a concern that I personally have. Bringing back all of these social justice warrior clubs, the things that literally destroyed the law enforcement agency work. Then they're going to say, okay, well, now we're going to go after these people. But that's why I think it's important that under this administration that these indictments is made perfectly clear. These are not political retribution indictments. These are what we call equal enforcement of the law. And that's what it has to be. It cannot be this ping pong, oh, you know, a Democrat, this is gonna happen. And Republicans in charge. No, it literally has to be apolitical. And lady justice must be blind. That's the goal. Let's see what happens. Because I'm telling you right now, the Democrats, they're just thinking, oh, they're just going after all of Trump's opponents. That's not what's happening at all. They're finally enforcing laws that should have been enforced a long time ago. And that's what Americans want to see. It should be fair and it should be unbiased. And for anyone to say that it was fair and unbiased under the Biden administration is completely. That's just ridiculous. I mean, they went after President Trump like he was on the FBI's top 10 most wanted list. I couldn't believe what I was experiencing. Again, I detailed things that I heard with my own two ears. The raid at Mar A Lago was an FBI in Miami's jurisdiction, which is where I was located. Hearing some of the conversations, I'm like, I can't believe that this is happening. This is not what we, when we raised our hand and took an oath. It was not to this. We are sworn to protect the American people and uphold the Constitution. And again, FBI one, they did it beautifully. They're out there working violent crime, stopping human traffickers. And I, do. I talk about some of the harrowing cases. My best friend, the FBI, was killed protecting children. Those are heroes. There are good people there. But the other half, FBI, too. Political nonsense. And it was.
Buck Sexton
What did they tell people?
Clay Travis
If it was.
Buck Sexton
What were they telling the agents who had to put on the famous or infamous windbreakers that we all think of? We think of FBI raids that they were going to, essentially, the President's residence at Mar a Lago to grab some dusty folders. How did they sell that one to the FBI agents in your office?
Nicole Parker
Okay, so first of all, the raid jackets. Yeah, it's on the COVID of my book. I was not involved at the raid at Mar a Lago, but they. There wasn't like a big open discussion that it was going to be happening. Okay. There, for instance, Roger Stone. When the Roger Stone incident happened, they actually sent out what we call a canvas, and it was an email asking people to volunteer for an arrest in Fort Lauderdale. But they didn't specify who it was or what it was. Something in my gut was like, that's awful. Not doing that because, you know, when they have these big operations.
Buck Sexton
Did you think. Did you think that someone in the Bureau tipped off the FBI to the. Sorry. Tipped off the CNN to that raid, by the way?
Nicole Parker
100%.
Clay Travis
How else do you know?
Buck Sexton
I just wanted to get an FBI person on, you know, to say this, because we all said at the time, like, there's no way CNN just happened to be there at 5am no, no.
Nicole Parker
You. You read in my book, that's not a coincidence. You don't just suddenly get information about that, like, no one knows where we are, what we're doing. But as far as Mar a Lago, that's not something that they put a canvas out for. They handpicked very carefully. And it was WFO from D.C. that came down. They worked with FBI Miami. Certain people were selected. Obviously, it was up in our Palm beach office out of the Palm Beach Res Agency, which is part of FBI Miami.
Buck Sexton
Did you hear of anyone refusing. Sorry, sorry, but we have limited time. Did you hear of anyone refusing to go or at least raising the issue of, like, I don't want to be a part of this?
Nicole Parker
Yes, I did. Yep. I did. Yeah.
Buck Sexton
Okay.
Nicole Parker
Said, no, I don't want to be a part of that. And again, FBI one, they want Nothing to do with it. They just want to do. So, yeah, there are people within the agency that said no. I personally was one that said, I'm not doing January 6th. I don't care. And I made a vow to my best friend the day before she's killed. We're like, we're not doing that, no matter what. I am not doing that because that is not fair. It is. My friend, right before she died, literally, some of her last words. And it's very, very powerful. She's like, this looks like political intimidation. I'm not going to be a part of this. And I said, I'm not going to be a part of it either. And we made a vow to each other. And then she was killed 18 hours later. So these are the kinds of honorable people that we don't hear about at the FBI. The FBI won. They are strong. I mean, she lost her life protecting children. On the other hand, there were people salivating at the chance.
Buck Sexton
What happened to your friend? You've mentioned this a few times. I assume it's in the book.
Nicole Parker
It's in the book and it's very. It is. It is disgusting. They didn't send the SWAT team for her operation when they were going to take down a child predator for a search warrant. A child, you know, child porn guy. No SWAT for her. And this is February 2nd of 2021. But in the meantime, they were liberally sending SWAT resources nationwide for January 6th misdemeanors. People that walked into the Capitol and took a photo, they got the full force of the federal government on them with SWAT and everything. But when it came to the real work and people protecting children, like my best friend, no swat. Two agents dead, three agents shot. And you will read about that in the book. And that's something no one knows about. So I think this book will be very interesting to people. And by the way, the FBI didn't even pay for her funeral. They didn't have the money to pay for her funeral, but they had the money to pay for diversity programs. So I recommend that people pick up the book because they're little facts and details that only an insider, like, I lived it. And it's. It's so frustrating when you're on the inside. You can't say a word.
Buck Sexton
You can't say, I'm going to get my copy. I'm sold. I'm going to get my copy right now. And I recommend everyone else, the two FBI's. Nicole Parker is the author. Nicole, thanks for being here. We'll talk to you again soon.
Nicole Parker
All right, I love you all. Have a great weekend and God bless you. Take care.
Buck Sexton
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Leon Neyfakh
What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi?
Buck Sexton
The truth became a web of lies.
Leon Neyfakh
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Clay Travis
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Leon Neyfakh
Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit.
Clay Travis
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.
Leon Neyfakh
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Clay Travis
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
Leon Neyfakh
I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.
Nicole Parker
What difference at this point does it make?
Clay Travis
Yeah, that's right. Lock her up.
Leon Neyfakh
Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Clay Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We are finishing the week with all of you, but we would encourage you to go download and subscribe to the podcast. You can find us on YouTube, you can find us all over the Internet. In fact, Buck, I believe people will be able to see us on tomorrow morning if they haven't gotten enough. We'll be on with our friend Kaylee McEnany's Fox News show. The two of us together in the 10am Eastern hour.
Buck Sexton
So five days not enough. I need that six day. I need six days. A week of clay in my life, apparently.
Clay Travis
So we will be with Kaylee on her show tomorrow morning. But we have had an awesome 15 hours with all of you hanging out. Let me play this because I teased it a couple of different times as we go into the break. And by the break, I mean the weekend. Until we're back with you on Monday. Obama has just shared from his Twitter account this video. If you're wondering how close potentially are things getting in Virginia, this is a sign that maybe the internals for Abigail Spanberger are not as good as some people might have anticipated because Obama is now cutting endorsement ads for her in Virginia. This is that Virginia's elections are some of the most important in the country this year. And I am proud to endorse Abigail Spanberger for governor. Republican policies are raising costs on working families so billionaires can get massive tax cuts. As governor, Abigail will stand up for Virginia families. She'll work to build an economy that works for everyone, not just big corporations and the wealthy. But it won't happen without you. Every vote counts. So turn out and vote for Abigail Spanberger for governor on November 4th. Okay, so, Buck, my immediate read on that is she must be doing bad with black voters and she must be in a dogfight compared to what the expectations are publicly now. Maybe that maybe they just want to win by double digits. And Obama's just usually when they trot out Obama, this was true with Kamala and everybody else, it's because black voters aren't moving. Remember, Obama lectured black men right before the end of the race. Like, I understand some of you are not showing up and voting for Kamala. I think you're doing that because you're sexist. And that didn't work very well because 21% of black men voted for Trump. The record numbers. And so I see this as actually, counterintuitively a good sign for winsome Sears and also for Jason Miarez. And we encourage all of you to make sure you are registered to vote. Unfortunately, Buck, your home city of New York, I think y' all are screwed. I don't have any.
Buck Sexton
Fine New York. I'm here for you. Don't listen to this. Mr. Clay Travis over there, it's all going to be fine. You're rolling with the Buckster. We're going to get through it together. And I want you all to have a fantastic weekend. And also, please do go check out the Clam Buck podcast network. For your listening enjoyment out by the pool, raking leaves. Depends, I guess, where you are in the country, what you're up to this weekend. Going out hunting. I'm sure it's hunting season a lot of places. Well, no, you probably don't want to be listening to podcasts while you're hunting. Got to hear the, you know, rustle of the leaves. Point is, go check out the the Clay and Buck Podcast network, and that's going to be a good thing to do. So have a great weekend and Clay's going to watch some football.
Clay Travis
Go big Orange. Take down that awful Alabama Crimson Tide team.
Leon Neyfakh
We'll see you Monday.
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Episode: Hour 3 – Trump the Mediator
Date: October 17, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts
In this episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton explore Donald Trump's emerging role as mediator in the Russia-Ukraine conflict, unpacking his recent interactions with Volodymyr Zelensky and broader efforts toward a ceasefire. The discussion also touches on the mechanics of negotiation, the shifting global balance of power, energy sanctions on Russia, U.S. military support for Ukraine, and the implications for American foreign policy if Trump leaves office. Later, the hosts are joined by former FBI agent Nicole Parker, who discusses her new book and provides an insider’s view of the Bureau’s internal culture and the ongoing impact of political transitions.
[01:34 – 05:44]
Trump-Zelensky Meeting: Buck Sexton reports that Trump is actively working towards mediating peace between Russia and Ukraine, aiming for a ceasefire and durable agreement. Trump describes the acrimonious relationship between Putin and Zelensky and suggests meetings may require mediation in separate rooms, reflecting the depth of animosity.
Clay Travis on Mediation Process: Clay reflects humorously on Trump as a mediator, comparing high-stakes international diplomacy to heated divorce mediations where the mediator acts as a go-between, sometimes sugarcoating each side’s extreme positions.
[05:44 – 07:41]
Zelensky’s Requirements: Zelensky, in his conversation, insists on strong security guarantees before agreeing to meet Putin, identifying NATO membership and bilateral guarantees with Trump as crucial to Ukrainian confidence in any peace process.
Mistrust of Putin: Buck explains Zelensky's skepticism: any agreement would need robust enforcement, as there is little faith Putin would honor a deal without external pressure.
[07:41 – 10:17]
Leadership Transitions: Clay warns that peace agreements brokered by Trump might be short-lived if a Democrat wins the next election, as adversaries like Putin and groups like Hamas may only respect or fear Trump’s decisiveness.
Trump’s Flexibility: Clay notes the media's error in treating Trump’s positions as static; Trump has shown a willingness to adjust tactics as a negotiator throughout his career.
[10:17 – 12:49]
Trump Claims India Stops Importing Russian Oil: Trump announces that India will no longer buy Russian oil, potentially closing a major loophole in sanctions enforcement, which had allowed Russia to sell at reduced prices.
Impact on Sanctions: Clay and Buck discuss how India's purchases have blunted the impact of sanctions; ending this trade could exert real economic pain on Russia.
[13:04 – 14:13]
Tomahawk Missiles for Ukraine: Trump mentions the possibility of providing Ukraine with advanced weaponry like Tomahawk missiles but expresses hope that the war will end before such escalation becomes necessary.
Buck’s Take: Buck highlights the seriousness of such weapons and Trump's underlying message: military aid is leverage for peace, not just support for ongoing war.
[21:47 – 22:10]
Venezuela’s Maduro: Trump responds dismissively to Nicolás Maduro's overtures, sending a blunt warning not to "mess around" with the U.S. (paraphrased and censored for broadcast).
Clay's Interpretation: Trump’s approach is presented as instilling fear and respect among adversaries—a recurring theme throughout the segment.
[24:02 – 37:08]
Nicole Parker's Book: Parker discusses her new book, The Two FBI’s: The Bravery and Betrayal I Saw in My Time at the Bureau, focusing on the cultural rift inside the FBI between agents committed to impartial law enforcement (FBI 1) and those she describes as politicized actors (FBI 2).
Federal Indictments: She addresses recent indictments of figures like John Bolton, arguing that, under the Trump-appointed administration, law enforcement is finally being applied fairly, not as political retribution.
Potential for Backslide: Concerns remain about culture swings within the FBI if future administrations shift political direction, especially regarding “social justice warrior” programs from previous administrations.
Selective Law Enforcement: Parker recounts internal frustrations over the deployment of FBI resources—comparing the lack of support for her late friend (killed during a child predator operation) with the aggressive tactics used against January 6 defendants.
The show maintains a conversational, often humorous tone, mixing sharp political insights and critiques with banter between the hosts. Clay and Buck take a direct, sometimes irreverent approach to current events, blending analysis with personal anecdotes and strong opinions. The interview with Nicole Parker brings a more serious, insider perspective on law enforcement culture and reform.
This episode provides a thorough look at Trump’s evolving diplomatic role, the delicate and skeptical nature of high-stakes international mediation, and the realpolitik calculations facing world leaders. The candid interview with Nicole Parker offers a rare window into the culture wars within the FBI, illustrating both the agency's challenges and the struggle for impartiality as political winds shift. The episode is a blend of humor, analysis, and first-hand testimony, making it engaging for listeners keen on politics, diplomacy, and institutional reform.