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Ken Paxton
Hey, glad to be on. I appreciate you having me on. You're gonna be a fun, fun year coming up.
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Can I we know you've announced your Senate run and so that's, that's a very, you know, very, very exciting for, for you and your team that you're going to be, you've thrown your hat on the ring for that. Want to talk to you more about that. In the meantime, though, I thought perhaps you could just give us your perspective. If in a, if a state attorney general is involved in multiple mortgage frauds, if that is found to be true, shouldn't that state Attorney general, I'm sure you're familiar with what's going on in New York and Attorney General Letitia James and the allegations that are out there right now. Aren't you Attorney General Paxton held to a higher standard as a chief law enforcement officer in your state. And shouldn't that be the case in New York as well?
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Ken Paxton
Well, certainly not necessarily a higher standard, but she had to be held to the standard that everybody else is, which is if she's violating the law, she should be held accountable for that. And if she's committed a crime, she should be prosecuted for that. And obviously that would affect her ability to continue as Attorney General of New York.
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Clay Travis
A lot of discussion. Well, first of all, let's allow you to tell our audience who may not have heard otherwise, you have had a lot of success in Texas electoral politics already. You've won a lot of battles. You fought a lot of battles. People have coming after you aggressively. And you are going to be running now for the Senate from Texas. That is next year, but the process is underway. When's the primary? What do you expect it to look like? And for people out there that may not have been familiar with you in the past, why are you the right choice?
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Ken Paxton
So the primary is the first Tuesday of March. So we're, you know, approximately ten and a half months away from the primary. And obviously, John Corn is our current senator. Been there for 23 years, going on 24. He'd like to stay 30. For one, I think that's too long. And for two, I don't feel like he's done a good job representing our people. I don't think he's done a good job. And I think there is. It's time for a change. So that's why I'm running. There's a lot of issues that I'm frustrated. I think our voters are frustrated with. And it takes a lot of effort to win a statewide race in Texas. You need name id. You need money. And there just aren't that many people that have the name ID or the ability to raise funds that can go against the sitting incumbent, especially in the state of Texas, which.
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Clay Travis
We may have just lost him there for a sec. If we want to make sure he get his cell phone. He's in Dallas right now. He's begun the campaign, and he was just laying out Buck. What is going to be probably, I think it's fair to say the biggest Republican primary battle in 2026 anywhere in the country. John Cornyn, who has been in office for some time, current sitting Texas senator, and Ken Paxton, who is the Attorney general right now of Texas, very well known, but I wanted you guys to hear from him exactly the choice that he was making is going to be a big, expensive, huge battle. He just laid it out March of next year.
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Sponsor
So let me ask you just Attorney General Paxton, because this is gonna be. This is gonna be a primary a lot of people spend time thinking about and involved in. It'll be a lot of dollars. And for anyone who's listening, I just want to be clear. We will. Because we don't endorse in primaries, we will have an invite out to Senator Cornyn as well, so he can make his case. But Attorney General Paxton, where have you broken with Cornyn on. On a major issue? I mean, what you said that you're not. You don't agree with some of the positions he's taken and some of what he's done to represent the state of Texas. Can you. Can you give us some examples so we can just start to Understand what the differences are between the two of you?
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Sure.
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Ken Paxton
I'll give you a couple of examples. First was his push for the gun restrictions that he was able to pass with the encouragement of Joe Biden. And he was able to do that. Restricting gun ownership rights. Very unpopular position in Texas, particularly in the primary, as you might imagine. And I remember after it was done that Donald Trump came out and called him a rhino and President Biden congratulated him on doing a great job. That will never happen with me. You will never see me congratulated by a president like Joe Biden. Another issue that he's been very, very bad on is the border. He's criticized Trump's building of the wall over and over. He said negative things about it, not wanting to do it. He's insinuated that he would be for amnesty. Those are both very unpopular positions. Texas, we're a border state. We need all the protection we can get, not less. And then, of course, he's been, he's not been a fan of President Trump. In 2016, he called President Trump an albatross around our neck. And in 2024, he said he was not endorsing President Trump, that we should go, we should move on, and that he also insinuated that President Trump had committed crimes and potentially should be held accountable for those crimes. So those are three of the issues that are, I think, are important to our voters and I think those are distinguished very much distinguish me from him.
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Clay Travis
So let's dive into this in particular. You just mentioned President Trump. I think he won the state of Texas by 1214 points. You probably know the exact margin, but it wasn't close. I'm assuming that if he hasn't already, that he is going to be endorsing you pretty wholeheartedly for, for this office. Given that you have worked quite a lot with Trump when it comes to the border, when it comes to legal related issues, how effective do you think you would be working with Trump in 2027 if you're able to hold that right hand up and become the next senator from Texas?
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Ken Paxton
Yeah, certainly the endorsement is up to him. I don't presume anything. But I will say this. I've had a great working relationship with President Trump from almost the day he got into office. I didn't know him, but we, we went back and forth on many, many issues while he was in his first term. I've kept in touch with him since then, during the times he was out of office and have been a big supporter. As a matter of fact, I was one of two elected officials that showed up at Mar a Lago. The other was Troy Nels. Congressman Troy Nels that actually showed up when he announced. Because if you'll remember, when he announced, there was a lot of issues swirling about his legal issues. A lot of Republicans were keeping their distance because DeSantis was, was on the move. And I was there with Troy Nell because one, I knew, I knew that President Trump would do a great job. And two, you know, I'm loyal to people that I trust and I believe.
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Sponsor
In speaking to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton. He is going to be running for a Senate seat against the incumbent there, John Cornyn and A.G. paxton. I wanted to lean on your legal expertise if I could, for a second. How do you assess this, this back and forth, right? The media is completely drilled into now this Mr. Abrego Garcia, who is being currently held in El Salvador. Just, I wanted to just hear what you think about all of the objections that are coming from some people about the process, the judge that's involved, what you think should happen. You know, you handle these kinds of decisions as an attorney general for our second biggest state. What do you think about what's going on here?
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Ken Paxton
Well, I think this judge has crossed the line. This is a, this is the executive branch. He's. This judge has crossed. We're all about separation of powers. The judiciary is supposed to be the weakest branch, and they are supposed to stay out of the legislative side and they're supposed to stay out of the executive side. This judge has clearly stepped into the shoes of the executive role and taking control of the situation. I think that's wrong, and I think that needs to stop. I think Congress needs to act and stop these nationwide injunctions that aren't based in any fact or law. We certainly, I think there are narrow cases that we used against Joe Biden when it was a nationwide issue, but this one is clearly in the purview of the executive, and this judge just needs to be stopped.
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Clay Travis
How has life in Texas changed since Joe Biden left office? Trump came in in particular. When it comes to the border, we talk about it on the program because basically the border has ceased to be an issue at all. It is now secure. What does that look like? What does it feel like in Texas?
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Ken Paxton
It's, I mean, I think people are excited. They feel safer. The costliness of it has gone down. Obviously, for us, it meant a lot of expense from law enforcement, health insurance, all kinds of different issues. Education, that's our cost. And the federal government never stepped in. Even though they were inviting these people in and working with the cartels to get them across the border, they were not helping us financially. And so it's a huge relief to us. And obviously, our legislature spent billions of dollars trying to protect the border in lieu of the Biden administration doing just the opposite. So it has a tremendous financial impact. But it's also, I think people just feel safer knowing that we have a president that's protecting our order.
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Clay Travis
We're number one in Austin, off and on. We're number one in San Antonio, off and on. We are number one in Houston, off and on. I say off and on because on a, you know, weekly monthly basis, things can evolve. But we have monster audience across the entire state of Texas, and we appreciate all of you listening right now. We're also newly on in Dallas, which is where I think you are right now. When you look at this March primary that is coming up next year, I know the answer is everywhere in terms of where will this race be decided, but in particular, what areas? What does turnout look like? A lot of times people don't show up necessarily in big numbers for primaries. What does it take for you to beat an incumbent senator who certainly is going to have a lot of money as well?
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Ken Paxton
Well, I mean, we've already done three polls with three different pollsters. I did one with Trump's pollster that had me up by 25. I did one with Ted Cruz's pollster that has me up at 25. And we did a third one just to make sure it was 27. So the voters, I mean, a lot of it's already baked in. They know John Corny's been in office for over 40 years. They know me. I've been in office for, in the attorney general's office for 11 years now. And so I think the primary voters are really educated. I feel very strongly that we are going to do well everywhere. And it's all based on record. And he's going to have to spend since his record is not what the voters want, he's not going to be talking about his record. He's not going to be talking about mine because my record is a record that the voters like he's going to be going negative personally. That's, that's his line of attack. And he's got to pray that somehow Trump does not, that he endorses him, because that would be his only way of getting into the game and he's still going to lose.
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Clay Travis
Do you think it's possible he drops out, decides not to run.
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Ken Paxton
Look, I don't presume anything. He said he's running. I'm playing, I'm playing this for, you know, I'm going to run against John Corn. So that would be a great question for him. I'm sure no matter what he's thinking in his head, it's got to cross his mind if he's that far down, he's pulled it. He knows that he's behind by double digits. And look, I've been to the Republican convention. The last time he spoke that he dared to speak to the Republican voters, that was three years ago. He got booed for 30 straight minutes. And I'm not talking to quiet booze. I'm talking loudly. Booed for 30 minutes. And that was all based on what he did with the restrictions on gun ownership in our state.
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Sponsor
Attorney General Paxton, appreciate you being with us, sir. Best of luck to you. We'll talk to you again soon.
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Ken Paxton
Hey, have a great day. Thanks for having me on.
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Clay Travis
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Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're still waiting on on official news about what exactly has happened at Florida State. We'll try to get you. There's been a shooting there. There are a bunch of different conflicting reports as often happened. So we don't want to get too far ahead of exactly what happened there, just FYI, but we are paying attention to it. One news story that has also come down, and I don't know if you saw this yet, Buck, I bet we're going to be talking about it some Tomorrow, the Supreme Court has agreed to hear Trump's birthright citizenship case. So this is what we said would happen for those of you out there that remember, soon after he came into office, Trump said that in his opinion, birthright citizenship did not exist as it is being implemented now. And he basically issued an executive order saying, hey, interpretations of birthright citizenship are wrong relative to his interpretation of the Constitution. And now the Supreme Court, as we told you would ultimately have to happen, has agreed to take that birthright citizenship case. Now, to be fair, sometimes they take these cases and they decide them on narrow procedural grounds, as we have seen happen a lot, because they don't really want to fully commit themselves to a current political issue that is of a mass significance like this. So, so anyway, that is, that is a, an aspect of this that is under. Let me know if we still have the callers up that wanted to talk about much less serious things. But I know we have a variety of of talkbacks. Let me hit CC here. This is podcast listener David says, yeah, this is important. Letitia James, we were talking about it earlier lying on her mortgage claim deeds on her applications. And David wants to point out that this would be a major issue for her because as attorney general, she has to reside in the state of New York.
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Clay Travis
So this is really important. She may not be eligible based on what she said in her mortgage application. As you just heard one of our listeners, and I appreciate that call, she may not be eligible to be attorney general anymore, which is why Buck, we have offered Kathy Hochul, to my knowledge, has said nothing. That's the current governor of New York. We've offered her an opportunity to come on. We offered Letitia James an opportunity to come on, tell us this is all wrong. And I think the next New York City mayor, Andrew Cuomo also has an offer. All of them have had offers extended from this program to come on and discuss what seems to me to be quite clearly an example of fraud as it pertains to mortgages. And we played for you the Daily Caller report where they went to. Some of you have told me I'm saying it wrong. Norfolk, Norfolk, Virginia. That is how I am told we should be pronouncing it. I'VE been saying Norfolk, Norfolk, Virginia. And if somebody just got me to almost.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, let's do it now because. Let's do it now. We can do now over. Yeah, I mean it's, it's like I feel like into the show we can have some fun. There's stories that are out there, the Florida State shooting, things like that. I'm sure we're going to get into that when there's more detail tomorrow. So. But you know, there's a wide variety of topics any, any given day and so.
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Sponsor
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Clay Travis
Let's bring up, let's start with this. Let's pull up producer Ally Ally.
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Clay Travis
They are in studio in their Rangers gear. So the Clay and Buck team in New York is going to be at the Rangers game tonight. Producer Allie Never been to a hockey game. All right. Ally, you are married to Gerard and he is fabulous. And Buck and I are both very big fans of his. How tall is Gerard?
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Clay Travis
Six four. How tall are you, Ali?
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Sponsor
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Clay Travis
All right, you are five three. We have said prior my wife is five two, Buck's wife is five three. That both of them have told us that if we were 5 8, we would not have been their dating partner and not their married partner. I will say this too, by the way, Buck, my mom is 5 4, my dad is 6 3. I bet if my dad had been 5 8, I bet I wouldn't exist. Just tossing that out there. I haven't ever asked my mom if she would have dated him if he was 5 8. She may be listening. She can let me know. But Ally, if Gerard had been 5 8, would you have ever started dating him as a 5 foot 3 woman?
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Sponsor
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Clay Travis
Uh huh. If he was 5 8, would you have dated him?
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Sponsor
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Clay Travis
5 6.
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Sponsor
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Like you're dialing it up.
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Clay Travis
I think she's lying. I think she's lying to us. I think because when I brought this up as we went to break at the end of the Last hour, she 5:4.
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Sponsor
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Oh, I can answer. There's no way, there's no way.
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Clay Travis
I don't believe she would have, I think if he was under six feet.
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Sponsor
Allie, I'll give, I'll give you this. I don't, I understand like male female dynamic. I understand if women, although some women don't mind if a guy who. There are women who don't mind if a guy is shorter than her. Especially if they're like if you're 6 foot tall woman now in heels. Right. You're 6 3ish, right? Probably 6 3.
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Clay Travis
Would you rather be a super tall woman or a short man?
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Matt Gaetz
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Oh, I think you had to choose super tall woman. You'd rather be a six foot five woman than like a five four man.
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Sponsor
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Clay Travis
A six makes you a hero.
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Sponsor
Six five woman would be. I mean that's like a, you're like bigger than a WNBA center at that. I think that aren't the WNBA centers.
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Clay Travis
Like you're a giant woman if you're like six two or bigger. Like right. I mean that's very, very ride for a woman. It's like being a seven foot man.
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Sponsor
So you know, I think it's, I think it's, you know, women anyway. Some Women will date shorter them. I don't, I understand a woman saying, I don't want to date a guy shorter than me again. What the data shows is that women like an amusement park ride have in their minds at least, and it shows that they act on this when it comes to online dating. A height cut off.
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And every nature show, every nature show you watch shows the species and how they attract each other. And the male birds will puff up and the lizards will make their gills go larger, whatever, you know what I'm saying?
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But to me, that's, that's, that's like muscles. That's, you know, that's maybe if you like someone's eyes, you know, there's all these physical attributes. But for. It seems to me that height for women, for male physical. Ali question. I mean, this is not fair because Gerard has a six pack and a six four. So this is going to, you know, now we're really. If, if Gerard. Take Gerard out of this. If you, if you have to pick for a guy height 64 or Gerard level physique. What. What are we going for here?
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Oh my goodness. All right. If we're just going purely off physical. Yeah, I, I suppose the fit, the fitness, because I'm okay.
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So she would go with the fitness. That makes more sense to me. I think Allie is in a distinct minority there because I think most women, they just, they. There's this height thing, dude. I, I have, I've. I clay. I'm six feet tall. I have come across women who have basically been like, you know, almost like they're doing me a favor. Like, you bait. Like, you just. This is obviously before I met Carrie, but I was single for many, many years in New York. They're like, I kind of, you know, grandfathered you in. Like, if I had known you weren't quite like six two, you know, I would. Is wild. And they're very open about this too. Like, they don't. Because, because it's so objective that they don't feel bad saying it's not. Like they're like, I wish you were better looking. Like, that's just mean. But like, you're a little on the short side for me. They'll just say it to your face.
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Clay Travis
But you know what really sealed the.
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Clay Travis
Like, I feel like a.
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Sponsor
You're like an emotionally stable, spiritually wholesome, very kind person. You know, you're all right. You know, we, we need. Ali's an outlier for like, like depth in As a human being, there are a lot of people who are superficial out there.
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Clay Travis
I think that's top three for most women. I think height is one, money is two, and I think more women will admit to the height thing than the money thing. There's not a lot of rich guys with ugly women. I'm just saying it is not happened very often that you see a super rich guy with an unattractive woman.
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Sponsor
But here. Here's again, I understand humorous why you want a rich guy. I understand. I'm not saying that. That it's not superficial or that, you know, we. We don't wish that there was romance beyond that, but being able to provide. Unless a guy is playing in the NBA or is like a tight end in the NFL, him being 66 means nothing. I. This is what I don't understand. But women love this.
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Clay Travis
I love total. I think. I think Ali's right. I think it's total biology. I think historically, the bigger gorilla was able to protect the female gorilla from smaller gorillas. And so I think biologically, women are attracted to bigger men because they have the ability to protect Clay. Biologically.
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Sponsor
Look at you at sea. But see, this is where I get. Look at you. Like most UFC fighters are. Are almost all of them are 5, 8 to 61 or 6 2. Like, there's very few that are tall.
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Clay Travis
Certainly very arbitrary. But I think this is straight biology. I think it's just like caveman days. If you were bigger, stronger, and faster, you were more likely to be able to kill a animal and provide for the female baby.
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Sponsor
By the way, average UFC fighter height is 510. Yeah, I just. Yeah.
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So documentaries also point out lions.
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Clay Travis
Lions.
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Sponsor
The male lion, the bigger mane, attract the female with the.
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Well, see, Maine, I get a little more. I'm like. I'm like a great Maine is something that I can get behind. You know what I'm saying?
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Clay Travis
I think it's just. I think it's just power. And historically, the more, like, size you had as a man, the more power you tended to have. Like, let's say, do we still have.
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Sponsor
David in Scottsdale, Arizona?
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Clay Travis
Is he a short guy calling in? We've ruined his day?
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Sponsor
No, he's 6 3. Okay, David, what have you got for us?
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Hi, guys.
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Ken Paxton
I'm six three. My girlfriend's five two. One of the first things she said is two things. She almost didn't date me because she felt bad that she was taking a tall person. But the big thing is, her tall girlfriends do not like short girls.
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Clay Travis
Taking the tall guy oh, that's an interesting point. I hadn't even thought about the anger that short girl with tall guy can provoke. Because if you're five nine chick and your girlfriend who's five three takes the six, two guy. I get it. I do think there's some something to your argument, Buck. In an Instagramable age, everybody wants the perfect photo. And I think there's a lot of girls out there. Yeah, they wear heels and they're wearing a fancy dress and they're going to a cocktail party or they're going to a, you know, formal event of some sort. They don't want to post a photo standing next to a guy who's shorter than them because they think it doesn't make the photo look as good. I think that is in the industry. That's a huge part of it. I think that's even.
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Sponsor
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Ken Paxton
Hey guys. Hey, guys. Love the show. And hearing you guys talk today remind me of a story. So I'm retired law enforcement. I was on 22 years on SWAT and I was the team leader. And we had a business guy that basically sponsored our team, gave us that, you know, for extra equipment, stuff like that. And we invited him out to the range. He was shooting with us and we were standing around the ammo table, we were jamming mags, waiting for the next iteration to come on. And we're all like six two and taller. All of us are big dudes. And he is 5 6, and he's standing there and he's jamming mags and he's looking around, looking around. He looks at and said, I'll tell you what, y'all are some big guys, but if I stay in my wallet, I'm six six. Like that. And we all said, yes, sir, you're exactly right. And to that fact. He has a hot wife. I am not gonna lie. And I've been.
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Clay Travis
He's.
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Sponsor
He is what we call in the culture, he is what we call Walker, a short king. That is what the millennials and Gen Z now. He's a short king.
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Clay Travis
That's really funny. That's a great line. And by the way, is there something to short guy being driven to be far more successful than tall guy? Because he knows that he has to be economically successful to get the best looking girl in a way that tall guy doesn't. In other words, is tall guy lazy? Because if you're Six, two or whatever. You have that height advantage for you. And five, six guy is like, I'm going to do all the work, I'm going to put in all the extra time. Maybe I. That would actually make some sense, right? Or there's. Here's a way to test it. Buck, this would be actually fascinating. How much correlation is there between super wealth? I don't mean like, you know, you're making a good living. I mean, like, you're a hedge fund guy. How much correlation is there between hedge fund guy, like, you're making tens of millions of dollars a year and average height guy? Are hedge fund guys taller or shorter on average than, like, finance, bro?
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Sponsor
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It's funny that you mentioned that, but because I have tried so many times to get on the air with y'all, and this is the time I made it through, but I do have opinions about women dating short men. Ali, Producer Ali is absolutely correct. It's evolutionary. Women are attracted to providers and protectors, and generally that means bigger, stronger, taller men who can protect us. And men are attracted to breeders, which is where the 36, 24, 36 bus to waist hip ratio comes in. However, I think you're wrong, Buck. I think more women are as evolved as producer Ali than you think, because I think more women will compromise on things like.
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Oh, Geralyn, Geralyn, I love where your head's going. The data that. The data does not surprise.
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Clay Travis
You're saying so, but where do you think people compromise?
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Sponsor
No, you're absolutely right about the data. That's 100 true. I just think that you're. I, I think if I'm on a dating app, I'm a divorced woman. I'm 40. I live in LA. I'm attracted to big, strong, manly men, but there's not that many of them in la. By the way, Henry Cavill, if you're listening, I've been waiting for you to knock on my door for several years. Just come and propose.
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Henry Cavill is a mallusion for sure. I agree. Yes.
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Yeah, that's your Comparison. That's your standard of beauty that you compare to. No, I. You're right that you never see a rich man with an ugly woman, but you will see a beautiful woman with an ugly man very often, especially in church. Because there are a lot of women who are smart enough to realize they need to be dating somebody who's a good communicator, who is not too cocky to be a poor mate, who is reliable and going to be a steady partner to raise the children with than somebody who's simply hot. And I think it's again, evolutionary. Evolutionary. That men are attracted to beautiful women more than women are attracted to.
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Okay, I don't, I don't. I'm not going to like the evolutionary thing.
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Clay Travis
I actually agree with a lot, A lot of what she had to say there. I think she's. She's nailed a bunch.
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Sponsor
No, she's a very. Geraldine, you're very astute, very high cue listener. We have so many of them and we appreciate when you call in. But let me ask you this. Do you agree with the thesis that height has become far more of a focus among women in the dating pool in America?
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Clay Travis
This is a good point.
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Sponsor
Was, say, 20 or 30 years ago, because that's really. My thesis is that online dating, Instagram, social media has made this a thing. Whereas you used to not be able to say 6 foot. Some women say 6, 2, and above. I know that exists.
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I think that it's always been important. So, no, I rejected this. I don't. More important. I think now we just have the data to prove that it's important.
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All right, well, Geraldine, I'm just going to tell you something. If you're, if you're a single lady in L. A, you set, you set the. If you're on a dating app, not making any assumptions, but if you're on a dating app, you set that, that, that filter to 5, 8 plus, you're gonna get short kings. Just, it's gonna be great. You know, just, just let those short kings make their pitch to you. And I'm telling you, you know, you'll call in, you'll be like, I got, you know, I found my. I found the love of my life. Anyway, that's, that's my little bit of. A little bit of advice. Thank you, Jerlin, for calling in. Great call. We'll take more of this ravens of bum with this one. And we'll take obviously some talk backs to some of the guys, some of the gals. You want to get a little salty on the talkback go to the iHeartRadio app. All right, we gotta talk about gold for a second. Inflation still a problem? You see, Trump's having a little back and forth with Jerome Powell over the Fed. He's got problems to fix. Trump's gonna fix them. But it's gonna take some time and in the meantime, you should position yourself and that's where gold comes in. Putting a portion of your savings and 401k in the one commodity that continues to increase with time and hold value over the span of time makes a lot of sense. That is gold. So if you're concerned about diversifying properly and taking action today to protect your savings from getting just constantly eaten by inflation, I encourage you to have a free consultation with a Birch Gold precious metal specialist. They're really good people. I bought my latest gold Purchase from Birchgold first time first step is to text my name Buck to 989898 Receive your free no obligation info kit on gold. Learn how to hold gold and silver in a tax sheltered account. Birch Gold can help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a gold IRA for no money out of pocket. Text my name Buck to 989898 today.
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Clay Travis
In most men I meet I really.
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Sponsor
Like being taller than men.
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Well, maybe there are some happy that's working. I wish there were more women who felt that way because that would help in the pairing up again. It's not that there aren't any women, it's just that the numbers are and it's not even about male to female height. It's that women think it's like an amusement park ride and it's unsafe if you're not tall enough.
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Clay Travis
Ben in Denver. We got a big audience out in Denver by the way. KDFD we'll get a response on this. EE I love how you just mentioned.
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Sponsor
Like 6 foot to 64 and anything taller is gangly. I wonder what your friend Jesse Kelly thinks about that.
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Clay Travis
I think Jesse has I think he's height outside of the optimal zone like and I know are you really throwing.
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Sponsor
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Clay Travis
Would be described as gangly. Most men who were like taller than 64 kind of have a gangly like sort of what's the who's like sort of a scarecrow like stroll about them where their, their arms and limbs kind of seem akimbo and not really connected.
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Sponsor
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Clay Travis
Something that well those guys, I mean there are exceptions like there's Shaq who was like a well built man and then there's Jesse Kelly who's kind of scarecrow like well we're going to let.
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Sponsor
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Clay Travis
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