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This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human third hour of play and buckets going right now. Jim Jordan, member of Congress, with us right now from the great state of Ohio. Congressman Jordan, thanks for being here, sir. Clay is saying that your, your august institution of the Congress largely to blame collectively, not you, sir, of course, but to blame collectively for the mess that is citizenship by birth, immigration, all this stuff right now after Supreme Court. What do you think?
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Well, I think that, I think our argument is actually strong in the president's position, which is our position. We followed brief with the, with the court that, you know, when you look at the 14th amendment, there's that key clause in there subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And I think that's important because if someone comes into your country illegally and gives birth to a child here, that shouldn't because they were here, weren't subject to the jurisdiction there because they were in an illegal fashion, I think that's important. And that's kind of, I think, where you hang your hat when you're making the argument that we're making. We'll see if the Supreme Court buys it. You know, I hadn't had a chance to listen to the debate today, but we'll just have to see.
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Jim, thanks for coming on. Okay, I'm going to hit you with two things that so I think this is not you signing on to this opinion. I think the Supreme Court is going to say the president doesn't have the executive authority to do this. And so I just want to hit you with a hypothetical. If, you know Buck's lovely wife Carrie, if they were on a nice honeymoon trip to Beijing, Bernie Sanders style, and, and or post honeymoon, but she's pregnant, they go there and they have a baby in Beijing. That child is not an American, isn't of American citizens, would be an American citizen. It certainly wouldn't be a Chinese citizen because they don't allow by soil citizenship. I think a lot of people are frustrated when they look at this to say, wait, Chinese citizens are coming here in huge numbers, having babies on our soil and then going right back to China and they've got an American citizen. That is madness. Can Congress do anything in your mind if the Supreme Court says the president doesn't have executive authority to address this birth tourism issue in a significant way?
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Well, two, two things. One, yeah, you're making this the basic common sense argument. This is, does not stand up to common sense. And I understand the Constitution, what it says. That's why I went right to the, you know, that clause in the 14th Amendment. So I get all that. But yet what we can do is, what we've been working on doing is like seal the border, secure the border, which President Trump has done, and then stop this sanctuary jurisdiction and all that that involves and all the other crazy things that the left is doing. I mean, I think we talked last time, we just passed legislation out of our committee that says we're going to get rid of this sanctuary jurisdiction concept, which applies to now almost a third of the country. So, yeah, those are the things that we need to do. Now, if we pass a wall that says, you know, that deals with birthright citizenship is going to be right back in front of the Supreme Court, right back. And they're going to look, they're going to point to the Constitution and cite the same reasons they're going to cite probably now. So I don't know that that changed anything. But what we got to do is just enforce the law and deal with the situation, which is, I gave this speech Friday night on the House floor when we're debating the bill that the Senate sent over and said they let in 8 to 10 million people, then they create sanctuary jurisdictions, and now they don't want to fund the people who are going out to get them, the ICE agents and, and they're going to take the money away. Wasn't enough to spit on them, docs them, track them, harass them. Now they want to say, we're not going to pay you to do the job that we're making it so tough for you to do because we let in 10 million people and gave them sanctuary status. I mean, that's craziness.
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So, Congressman, can you just tell us where this whole thing stands with the ICE funding currently? We know the TSA lines. We've been covering that a lot here on the show. Seems like that now is not an issue yet. The Senate on what, March 27, voice vote funding most of DHS. So that's TSA, FEMA, Coast Guard, but not the full ICE funding. And then you got the House on March 27, rejected the Senate's version. What the heck is going on?
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Yeah, the left is being crazy. I mean, they shut down the government last fall for 42 days, and now they're shutting it down for 40 some days here this the spring, and who knows how long it's going to go. It's just another ridiculous position they take. But that's the scenario or the situation is that, yeah, they don't want to pay ICE agents in border Patrol. And frankly, you don't ever Want to establish the precedent that you're going to fund all of the government except the enforcement side of dhs, which is what the precedent would have been if we would allow that to go through. So the House said no to it. All of us Republicans voted against what the Senate had said. We passed back a clean, clean bill which said, no, just fund everyone, fund ICE agents, fund the people who are going out there, facing the harassment from the agitators on the left, dealing with what all they have to deal with, doing their job, make sure they get funded fully, not this partial deal that Chuck Schumer and the Democrats wanted to do in the United States Senate.
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How frustrated do you think President Trump is right now? You know him well, it seems like I was watching his press conference yesterday, and I know he was at the birthright citizenship argument today on the Supreme Court. It's. And you and I were there for the College Sports Roundtable, and near the end, you could see him near the end of the College Sports Roundtable when they started talking about everything that judges are doing and Democrats in Congress, it was just, you could just see the blood pressure boiling on him. He seems, and I know everything going on in Iran, but certainly he seems very frustrated with the slowness of movement with the American political process. Is that fair to say, you think?
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Oh, I think it's very fair to say. He's a guy who gets things done. He's. He's a guy who, you know, is focused on results and doing what he said he would do when he ran for the job. And so, yeah, it's frustrating, but I think his frustration is no different than the American people. They see it all, too, and they look at the left and they're like, why do you take the positions you do? Why don't you just fund the government, Just like pay the ICE agents to do the job? So, of course he's frustrated, but I think the American people are, and I think it's incumbent upon us Republicans to keep doing all we can to get just common sense things done, but also to tell the public, to tell the people he held up. And it is truly the left, their crazy positions, and they're just pure hatred of President Trump, which is ridiculous as well.
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How's this Iran, Iran war playing out as you see it at this stage? Congressman, I think Trump's addressing the Nation tonight at 9 o'. Clock. He's going to be calling, calling out NATO for not stepping up to help out with the Strait of Hormuz. You know, I feel like a lot of People are either declaring this right now or a huge win or a huge catastrophe. And I'm like, well, it's still happening, so how can we know what exactly has happened? Because we don't. But at this stage, what are, what is your. What's your sense of how it's going?
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Well, I was listening to you guys a couple days ago, and I think you guys had the right take on it. I think the vast majority of Republicans think that the president's doing what he said and that this is the right thing to do. When you think about the, you know, the 47 years of this, this terrorist regime, killing Americans, killing Israelis, killing others, killing thousands of their own people, for goodness sake, and you cannot let them get a nuclear weapon, which President Trump campaigned on and ran on and was part of what he promised the American people. So I think the vast majority of Republicans say, like, okay, we're with the president. I certainly am. And I think people with common sense say, yeah, you do not want this crazy regime having a nuclear capability. But we also see the. Everyone sees the price of gas. I was actually in California, and you pull up at 699. Of course, that's driven by some of the crazy things in California. But I'm like, I look at that sign on the gas, I'm like, holy cow. So we want it to be over as quickly as possible. But I think most people, again, with common sense, say you have to achieve the objective. And if the objective is clearly, do not let this crazy regime have nuclear capability, nuclear weapons, and the country understands that. So we'll see what the President says tonight. But as we've talked about many times, he's a guy who does what he said. He's a guy that, you know, says he's going to accomplish the goal, he's going to get there. And this is certainly something he told us he was going to do.
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I agree with all that. You know, and I think you would probably agree with this if we've been saying on the program, everybody, you remember, everybody said, oh, Minneapolis is going to be the moment that defines the midterms. And now unless you live in Minneapolis or Minnesota, nobody's talking about that right now. Iran, Iran, Iran, gas prices. It's, you know, the first day of April. If this war or this, this whatever you want to call it, people say, you know, the president says, not officially a war because Congress hasn't acted. But let's say this, this action undertaken by President Trump, if it's over by May 1st, which I think it will be then we're going to be right back to the economy, I think, driving the boat as it pertains to people's reactions post Labor Day. Do you buy into that? If so, how does that become the focal point of the midterm election in your mind?
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Well, the economy is always, you know, pretty darn central to any national election, midterm or presidential. And I assume that's going to be the case again. I think you're right in the, in the era of modern American politics, in the era of President Trump that the news cycles like every three minutes. So yeah, things, things are going to change. We don't know what's going to happen between now and October, but it would be nice if we got this economy back where we want it and prices of things began to come down, particularly gas prices, because it's something we all see and feel every day. And I think that's likely to happen in light of the big beautiful bill we passed. And now I think we're going to do a second reconciliation. I think we have to in order to deal with this fraud issue. You think we're going to get Democrats in the Congress to help us deal with the rampant fraud happening around the country? No, we're going to have to do that on our own. So let's do that. Let's make sure we replenish the troops with the supplies they need after this effort in Iran and let's make make sure we handle the things and maybe even DHS has to happen with reconciliation to make sure ICE gets paid well, but let's do that. And I think that will help with economic growth as well. But certainly the big beautiful bill with the largest tax cut in American history, that's a good thing. And that's starting to kick in, I think, going to help our economy.
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Congressman, I was at a book event last night and yes, I was asked, did you in Fact hit a 103 mile an hour serve? And I, of course I said, well, yes, not everyone agreed that was going to happen, but that did happen. But, but also on, on, on the real, I was asked, I was asked a question that I want to pose, I want to pose to you now, which is how are we looking for the midterms? What's your real assessment of that right now? I mean, I, I, I, I know we're always optimistic here. You're an optimistic guy, you're a winner. You're not going to cry about things and say, oh my gosh, all is lost. I know that asking this question, but just Give us some context for what do you think has to happen between now and Election Day so that they can't. So that we don't lose the House. And then they just stymie Trump's agenda for the rest of his. Rest of his time in office.
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Well, and you all know the facts historically, midterms are tough when you're the party in power in the White House. So we get that the energy right now, the left is driven by their. Just this, you know, Trump derangement syndrome, which is a, as you all know, a real phenomena. They're driven by that. You saw these no Kings baloney they did over the weekend. And so there's some energy on the left, but we're raising money, we're recruiting good candidates. And again, in modern American politics, in the era of Trump, he has changed things. Look at our state. Our state, Ohio used to be the bellwether state in any presidential election. It was a 50, 50 state. President Trump won Ohio by eight and a half. Eight and a half. Eleven and a half in the last three elections. Things have changed. So I don't think he conventional wisdom. I was in California helping one of our colleagues and raising money for our candidates. We're busting our tail doing all the work we got to do. And like you say, I'm an optimistic guy because we're an American. You got to be optimistic. We live in the greatest country ever, so I think we can still do it. But let's be honest, it's going to be hard. It is going to be hard. But I learned a long time ago anything worth doing is always hard. That's just the way the good Lord made it. And we're going to, we're going to stay after it, and I think we can win.
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Are you optimistic that Congress going to be able to do anything? We're in the middle of the Final Four. NCAA Tournamen has been a lot of fun, setting record ratings. Are you optimistic that, that Congress is going to be able to do anything to help get the mess in college athletics fixed?
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I am. And I want to. You know, Clay, we've talked about getting the Score act passed. We got to get that done because we got to get some ball and get some action on something so that we have to do it. I wanted to do it last fall like you did, but in the middle of the football season. But if we don't do something, I think it's going to continue to deteriorate. You're going to get more transfers and people wanting to play 10 years in college and on and on it goes and it hurts everybody. And like we started here, you saw the, just like I did. You saw the frustration with the president. I think that frustration with college sports fans all over. So we're looking to do a hearing. We're going to bring you in and let you talk to the American people and to Congress at some point here this spring talking about all these issues because there's things in professional sports that I think are a concern as well. You want, you're a fan. You want to watch. I always joke, you want to watch the Browns lose every week in a football season in Ohio, for goodness sake. It costs you like a thousand bucks, twelve hundred bucks, and you still can't find him. Was it on the, is it on? You know, is it streaming? Is it on network or is it on cable or do I got to do. So we want to look at that issue, too. So there's a number I think make sense for and I unfortunately, I think require Congress to do, to do something.
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Well, look, we know how hard you're working. We know how much energy you have trying to get things solved up there. So thanks for everything. You're always going to be a big friend of the show and I'm looking forward to seeing you at that testimony here coming up to try to get some stuff resolved there.
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Yeah, thanks for all you guys are doing. Take care.
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That's Congressman Jim Jordan with us talking about all of the battles going on on Capitol Hill right now. Buck, take us to the break and we'll get to some of your calls and some of your talkbacks. There's some good ones.
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You guys are both very optimistic, I gotta say. It's a good thing. You know, your optimism is. Yeah, you too. I gotta say. You're the coach. You're the coaches for the team that never feels like they're a bunch of losers. So that's a good thing. I've been on the go a lot events this week doing all kinds of stuff and trying to, trying to do some working out, you know, trying not to get too sweaty. Clay. So I'm out there doing what I can and you know, sorry, I did
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see the photo and I thought Carrie looks lovely. She looks like she just came from a nice, you know, great environment. And I thought punk looks a little sweaty there. It looks, he just looks a little, little. It must have been a hot room.
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Buck podcast network on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton Show Artemis getting close to being ready to take off. The guys and gals are putting on their space suits and preparing to head back to the moon potentially, I think. What did he, what did Jared isaacsman tell us? 6pm ish in that hour, east coast time that the space flight is scheduled to take off. So that is receiving a great deal of attention. President Trump is going to talk tonight. Buck, let's set the table here for what we expect to hear from President Trump and and what we anticipate. We haven't talked to Iran very much because the birthright citizenship story, obviously, given the fact that the oral arguments happen today, is a huge part of the national discussion. But on the flip side, you're going to bring us back. Let's set up a little bit what we expect to hear from President Trump Tonight, tonight at 9pm Eastern on the Iran situation as they continue to have discussion, supposedly that a ceasefire might be in the offing. And I will also tell you, by the way, if you want to save a bundle on your cell phones, you can get hooked up right now with Pure Talk. Just a handful of cell phone companies out There these days at and T T Mobile, Verizon, Pure Talk's pricing all about value, 25 bucks a month, unlimited talk text, plenty of data. Compare that to the other companies. PureTalk also creates American jobs by building a customer service team. Team 100% US based, making it easier to work with on the rare occasions we might need their help. My two oldest boys both have Pure Talk phones. I trust PureTalk to stay in touch with my kids. You can trust PureTalk to help you as well. Here's how you get hooked up with a great offer that could save you up to $1,000 over the course of a entire year's time. £250 say our name, Clay and Buck to switch to Pure Talk today. That's £250, say Clay and Buck to switch to America's wireless company, pure talk. £2 50 say clay and buck. That's £250 say clay and buck.
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Oh, welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we are talking here about the situation in Iran and all of the latest that we can expect from the President tonight. Now a few things for this. First of all, Clay president saying that things are looking, things are looking great from his perspective. Overall, overall, this is a fantastically successful military mission. That's the word from the White House, more or less. In fact here we could have Trump weigh in on this one. Here. Let's listen to. And this is from yesterday. This is cut 11 on his Iran timeline. This is what he's saying, I think
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we two or three weeks we'll leave because there's no reason for us to do this. Look, problem with the strait. A guy can take a mine, drop it in the water and say, oh, it's unsafe. It's not like you're taking out an army or you're taking out a country or you, they can drop it or you can take a machine gun from the shore and shoot a little few bullets on a ship or maybe an over the shoulder missile, small missiles. That's not for us. That'll be for France. That'll be for whoever's using the strain. But I think when we leave, probably that's all cleared up. Today I heard tremendous numbers of ships were sailing through. We're negotiating with them right now. Again, we have had regime change. Now regime change was not one of the things I had as a goal. I had one goal. They will have no nuclear weapon. And that goal has been attained. They will not have nuclear weapons.
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Clay, he's saying the goal has been achieved. Now we have to get the Straight open. But he's also been frustrated with European allies here. Emmanuel Macron of France has said the strikes are outside of international law. Britain's Keir Starmer, who makes Brian Stelter look like Conan the Barbarian, he is declaring it, not our war. So Starmer is a just in general, a very wimpy guy and letting Britain fall as a civilization. And Italy and Spain have denied US warplanes from being able to land at their bases or flying through their airspace as part of the Iran campaign. Clay. So some of our European friends are irking Trump, and I think we're going to hear quite a bit about that tonight at 9:00 Eastern.
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Well, this is the big story now. Oil and gas is a global marketplace, which is important. But I think what President Trump just said is also important, which is the Strait of Hormuz. We can have pretty much free ingress, egress, whatever you want to say, through the strait. And all it takes is one bomb to potentially scare the owners of oil tankers, which you could understand if you had a ship and you knew that there was a. I don't know. I don't know what the risk tolerance. That's a good question. If we had a shipping magnet who delivers oil through the Persian Gulf, I would bet one in a hundred. If you knew there was a one in 100 chance that your oil tanker would get blown up, I don't think you'd probably go, maybe you'd take the chances at one in a thousand. I mean, this would be good because it basically just comes down to risk tolerance. Right. How frequently can Iran have a significant enough impact on a oil or gas tanker, which you can all imagine when it hits an oil or gas tanker, it goes up in a hurry. Right. We're not talking about being able to easily put out a fire or deal with this when a drone or a missile or some sort of easy to carry device is created, an incendiary nature. So the big issue that I see here is what President Trump is pointing out, Buck, is it's actually not that impactful to the United States whether the Strait of Hormuz is wide open, because thankfully, we have created enough oil and gas independence that, that things are pretty good in terms of the United States oil and gas access. In fact, I was with a friend over the weekend who was in the oil and gas industry and she said, hey, you know, the oil and gas people aren't really that upset that the price of oil and gas has gone up because President Trump's desired price around $50 a barrel. It's hard, a lot of you guys listening in Texas, it's hard for the oil and gas companies to make very much money at profitably at $50 a barrel. Gas, oil and gas, they need it to be 60, 70, $80 in order to encourage more oil and gas drilling. And so there's not a lot of people in Texas right now that are actually that upset. And given that a lot of the money stays in the United States, we have basically energy independence here, but Europe doesn't. And so the people that are actually impacted by the Strait of Hormuz are European, they are Chinese, and they have done nothing to try to put pressure on Iran to open up the Strait of Hormuz. Now, there are is talk as we began this show. Here is Rubio, by the way, saying cut 17. We actually depend very little. This is last night, I believe, on Sean Hannity show Rubio saying what I'm telling you guys, which is this is not that significant to the American consumer. We're not using that oil and gas, cut 17.
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The Straits of Hormuz, those are international waters. Right. So anything Iran does to impede commercial traffic is illegal. For all these countries that love to talk about international law, it is a violation of international maritime law to impede the free flow of travel in international waters. Okay, so that's number one. Number two, it's illegal to bomb and hit and attack commercial shipping and sink them. I mean, that's what the Nazis did during World War II in the Atlantic. And that's what they're doing now to ships that they from countries they don't like that are flagged by countries they don't like. These are terroristic acts that they're undertaking. And so the United States gets very little energy through the Straits of Hormuz. Our allies ship out a lot of oil through there, meaning our Gulf allies and certainly countries in Asia and Europe depend on it. We, we depend very little on the straits.
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Okay, so, Buck, it seems clear to me that President Trump is going to lean on Europe, on China, on Japan, other countries that depend on the Strait of Hormuz. More there are reports and I'll it's hard to even keep up because we say something and then somebody from Iran immediately says it's not true. And then there's another story that spirals out of that. But it seems to be the case that there is the potential and we'll see what President Trump says tonight of a ceasefire from the United States and Israel. If Iran would commit to allowing the Strait of Hormuz to be back wide open, with the idea being that President Trump, by and large, has already knocked out a lot of the top targets. Does that seem like a fair assessment of where we are? What Iran would give up is free shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, or price of oil and gas would collapse again in a hurry. And what we would do is say, okay, we've hit you enough. We feel like the new leadership we can work with. I think that's kind of where we
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are, probably something like that. And, and I think Trump, he's saying this, it's two weeks or so, we'll be finished up here. He's clearly trying to keep the pressure on so that there can be some deal while the Iranians still feel like they can get hit. You know, that's, that's the leverage, right? That's the, you know, the, the knee on the, on the chest here of the Iranian regime. It's, hey, you better. You better come up with something here, or else we can still hit you. So that makes sense to me. The achievement of the end of the Iranian nuclear program. We'll see. I think he set it back quite a bit. That's. That's true. I don't know if he's eliminated that chance forever. I would, I would doubt that, especially considering a year ago we had all the airstrikes on the nuke facilities, and then we needed more strikes on more nuke facilities. So we'll see. You know, I feel like the. Isn't it in Charlie Wilson's War, Tom Hanks is talking to that guy. He actually died, I think, from a drug overdose a few years ago. A very good actor, you know, I'm talking about.
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He plays Seymour Hoffman.
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Gustavos. In the, in the, in the movie. Yeah. Philip.
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Thank you, Philip.
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Seymour Hoffman. That's exactly right. But they're talking and he does the, you know, the man gets a horse and he says, isn't this a blessing? And he goes, we'll see. Then he falls off the horse and he breaks his leg and he goes, isn't this terrible? And we'll see. And then he's recruited for war, but he can't go because his broken leg. And, you know, we'll see. I feel a little bit of that with this Iran situation right now. Yes. The military side of it, we have shown the world that our military is so much more capable and has so much more ferocity than anything that. Like an Iranian regime. So that's changed perception considerably. By the way, I think China looks at all this with the whole Taiwan situation. And they're like, ugh, these Americans are really good at this war thing.
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No doubt.
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Just saying. And we are, we are very good at this war thing. So that is clear. The long term strategic implications, what this means, if anything, for the oil markets, I think that's still playing out.
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I think that's 100% right. Stock market, by the way, has come back in a big way yesterday, up over a thousand points. Another day of surging stock market prices. So the impact in general, I think, of the sell off has not been very substantial. And again, what I've said from the get go is, is oil and gas prices matter in a big way. And if you look at what oil and gas prices are in September and October, I think that will give you a great illustration of exactly what we should expect. I will say, Buck, I was telling you this off air poly market, which is the prediction market, they have an 86% chance that Democrats are going to take back control of the House right now. That means if you are out there listening to us right now and you disagree, you can make an 8 to 1 roughly return by saying Republicans are going to hold onto the House. The markets are telling you that that is unlikely to happen. More ominously than that, right now, it's a little bit over 50, 50 that Democrats are going to take back control of the Senate. And I think as we get this situation resolved, the price of oil and gas is going to go a very, very long way towards how people feel about the affordability issues in the fall. And right now, Republicans, this is being honest with you, are big underdogs to retain control of the House and are now favored to lose the Senate too. Now, could these prediction markets be wrong? Yes. Can they change? Yes. But where the markets are right now, I think is always important to analyze when you try to assess what's going to happen going forward. And if you're frustrated with Congress now, imagine what's going to happen if Democrats take back control of the Congress. I mean, they're going to impeach Trump, but nothing is going to get through. You're going to not be able to get judges through. By and large, they're just going to shut down all of that pipeline and effectively the Trump presidency is going to be over. Now, he can still issue executive orders and he can still make a lot of decisions, but in terms of actually marshaling through any kind of substantive change in American law, it's going to be over. So that's to me why we got to get a lot of action done right now. It's also why Justice Alito was great. Justice THOMAS Great on the questions I thought they asked today if they really want to ensure that someone like them is going to stay on the Supreme Court. Similar judicial philosophy. If I were 75, I'd be thinking about, hey, is it potentially time to get a replacement that can take us to the next generation? Because I'm concerned we're going to Ruth Bader Ginsburg. This look, fire, carbon monoxide, you got them in your home. You got the detectors. Do you have a plan in case of a home invasion? Now's a good time to get one together, especially maybe if you're a little bit nervous. Maybe you got kids that are coming in at late hours. Maybe you got a neighborhood where you got friends and family that stopped by. We were walking around in the house last night. I went to go make sure the doors were locked. It's about 11:30 at night. And I opened the door and my wife, you know, to make sure it was. I found that it was open and I was locking it. My wife was like, oh my goodness, who is that? Where she was super worried. How many times that happened in your house. Maybe you want something non lethal to make sure that you're as protected as you can be. Maybe you got kids that are out on the road. Maybe they're off on college. Maybe they got a job that sometimes requires them to be out late at night. Boys, girls, grandsons, granddaughters. Sabre can give you non lethal products to allow you to protect you and your family. And they have so many different types of products, including the Sabre home defense launcher. Seven powerful impact or pepper projectiles. Two more than competitors. We own them in the house. Also. Pepper spray makes so much different. Get hooked up now. When safety matters, America chooses Sabre, the number one brand trusted by police and millions worldwide. And Saber is how it's spelled. S A B R E. Don't wait for a close call. Get protection now@saberradio.com that's S A B R E radio.com you can also call 844-824. S A FE do not be an unk.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck SEXTON show. Appreciate all of you. We got a bunch of talkbacks. Let's see if we can hit as many of those as. Oh, man, we got an absolute ton. My goodness. Let's see what are the most recent. Darcy in Houston, ktrhd.
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Listen, our youngest daughter was born in Dubai when we were living over there for my husband's work. And families over there are required to prove the blood lineage in order to claim citizenship. So they keep family books, literally huge books with their family line. It's time to end birthright citizenship.
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That's wild. It's like Game of Thrones, evidently. Thank you, Darcy, for telling us that story. I didn't know that about Dubai, but I know that, again, we are very rare in the world in allowing anybody born on our soil to become a citizen. And that was the big topic today. Moses in Montana.
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E Clay, you're getting sucked in by the rope, a dope technique from way back when in boxing. They are not going to approve of birthright citizenship. They are going to rule for Trump's favor. Roberts is just the stick man for this. Trust me. When this decision comes out and you can know that Moses reminded you.
C
Moses, we appreciate you.
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Yeah, Moses got lost in the reeds here. He's wrong. It's not going to happen.
C
Save that one. Producer Ali, if Moses is right, we will sing Moses's praises. He's parted the Red Sea.
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He will split you like a golden calf.
C
We will see, but save that one. I think, unfortunately, he's going to end up being wrong. Josh in Texas F, you're both wrong.
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Best space movie ever is, of course, Spaceballs. I mean, come on. I'm not even sure Spaceballs is the best movie with space in the title. It's definitely not the best space movie.
C
Todd From Grand Rapids, Michigan News Radio. W O O D Wood 1300 radio
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aliens is more of a sci fi movie than a space movie, don't you think? But I've never, never was a fan of that movie. So I'm with Clay on this one. This is.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
A
Okay. Well, first of all, of course, the guy who doesn't like aliens is like, it's not a space movie. The whole thing takes place in outer space. People flying around in spaceships, going to places that don't actually exist in deep space. I think that's a space movie, Jake.
C
This is going to be a fun one. Jake in Manasquan. Manasquan, New Jersey. Listening on wor. I probably mangled that Bach. He's fired up about your wool. Take wool.
B
Wrong about the wool. When you said no such thing for lightweight. There are Super 100s, Super 120s. I used to be in the custom
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clothing business and yes, absolutely, there is
B
a very lightweight wool and it is very comfortable. It is very cool. In fact, wool breathes.
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And it is one of the most comfortable fabrics.
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As long as it's good quality.
A
I mean, he can say this. I can get his best 100 super one hundreds or whatever wool. I will sweat through that thing. You'll be able to wring it out into a bucket and it'll be like, oh, but it's super lightweight wool. No such thing. No such thing.
C
Did Jake think when he turned on the radio this morning, I'm going to be arguing with Buck Sexton about wool. You guys. Sheep brothers. Scott in Milwaukee K. The greatest space
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movie of all time, brother, is Armageddon.
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Hands down, they're going to name schools after him. Matthew in Charleston, South Carolina. Buck, he's got some good advice for you.
A
I'm with Buck on the no ties. The most I'll ever do these days is called like the Charleston tuxedo. It's a pair of khakis, a button down shirt, leave the top button or two unbuttoned, and a blazer jacket. That's all. I won't go more than that anymore. I agree. I don't, I don't put on a tie unless I'm really being made to. And that's a tough thing to do. The president. I wear a tie when we see the president, Clay. That's pretty much where I draw the line.
C
I do wonder if we're going to have a president soon who just gives up on the tie. It's not going to be Trump. Is that possible? I don't know. We'll be back with you tomorrow. See ya.
Date: April 1, 2026
Guest: Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH)
In this third hour, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, with guest Congressman Jim Jordan, delve into major current political flashpoints: the debate over birthright citizenship, congressional funding standoffs for ICE, ongoing frustration with the legislative process, the Iran conflict and implications for U.S. and global politics, and the outlook for the 2026 midterms. The episode features signature humor and candid skepticism, drawing out both the policy, procedural, and raw political calculations animating national discussion.
[00:00–03:51]
"If someone comes into your country illegally and gives birth to a child here, that shouldn’t...they weren’t subject to the jurisdiction...I think that’s important." — Rep. Jim Jordan [00:38]
[03:51–06:52]
"...you don't ever want to establish the precedent that you're going to fund all of the government except the enforcement side of DHS...the House said no to it." — Rep. Jim Jordan [04:23]
[05:24–06:52]
"He’s a guy who gets things done...it’s frustrating, but I think his frustration is no different than the American people." — Rep. Jim Jordan [06:04]
[06:52–10:54]
"You cannot let them get a nuclear weapon, which President Trump campaigned on...that’s part of what he promised the American people." — Rep. Jim Jordan [07:25]
"If this action...is over by May 1st...then we’re going to be right back to the economy driving the boat..." — Clay Travis [08:46]
[10:54–14:38]
"...midterms are tough when you’re the party in power in the White House. So we get that...But let’s be honest, it’s going to be hard." — Rep. Jim Jordan [11:42]
[16:41–27:57]
"Now regime change was not one of the things I had as a goal. I had one goal. They will have no nuclear weapon. And that goal has been attained." — Donald Trump (audio clip) [19:40]
[27:57–end]
"...if Democrats take back control of Congress. I mean, they’re going to impeach Trump...and effectively the Trump presidency is going to be over." — Clay Travis [27:57]
"This does not stand up to common sense..." — Rep. Jim Jordan [02:28]
"We never want to set the precedent that you can fund government, except the enforcement side of DHS..." — Rep. Jim Jordan [04:23]
"He’s a guy who does what he said. He’s a guy that...says he’s going to accomplish the goal, he’s going to get there." — Rep. Jim Jordan [08:46]
"...anything worth doing is always hard. That’s just the way the good Lord made it." — Rep. Jim Jordan [11:42]
"Our allies ship out a lot of oil through there [Strait of Hormuz]...We depend very little on the straits." — Marco Rubio [24:08, audio replayed]
"Now regime change was not one of the things I had as a goal...I had one goal. They will have no nuclear weapon. And that goal has been attained." — Donald Trump (audio clip) [19:40]
[32:16–36:41]:
Hour 3 of Clay and Buck delivers an in-depth, high-energy take on the legal, legislative, and political battles surrounding birthright citizenship, border policy, the Iran crisis, and the critical stakes of the 2026 midterms. Jim Jordan’s appearance anchors the discussion with frontline congressional insights, while audio clips, market data, and lively calls from listeners keep the conversation both informative and entertaining for engaged conservatives concerned about the future of the Trump presidency and GOP control.