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Clay Travis
This is an iHeart podcast. Third hour of clay and Buck kicks off now. Our friend Ryan Gardusky is back in the mix with us. He is a star of the Clay and Buck podcast network. His show, It's a Numbers Game. For those of you who just want to know, what is the data telling us? What is the reality of American politics based on the facts, the figures, all that good stuff. You want to impress all your friends who think they know about politics, listen to It's a Numbers Game by Ryan Girduski. Mr. Ryan, good to have you on, sir.
Ryan Girdusky
Thanks for having me back.
Clay Travis
Let's talk. What's the most interesting stuff you're seeing right now? I mean, I've seen some of the numbers, for example. I mean, I was going to just lay it out to you, but actually I want to know about this. The, the, the switch from Democrat to Republican for men. I think the number that I saw was under 40, basically, or maybe it was under 45 over the last two years is stunning stuff. Are those numbers real to you? Is the data good on that? And what's.
Ryan Girdusky
So this comes out of Pew Research. Pew Research reported that a party identification for men under the age of 30 had a 44 point swing towards Republicans from Republicans having 36% to 52%. And among women under 30, there was a 14 point swing from women having 30 to 37. Obviously Democrats lost seven in that mix is where you get the 14 from. Now, is those numbers real? They're not based off of party registration numbers. Right. So they didn't go to every state that registers people by party. And most states don't register people by party, just register to vote. But they went through the overall. How do you think of yourself overall? Do you lean Republican and you lean Democrat? Interesting enough, there's a man named David Shore, a very, very smart progressive. Data scientist. David Shor said that in the 2024 election, not only did Donald Trump win young white men and young white women under the age of 20, he won young non white men under the age of 20 and young white men under the age of 20 were the most Republican group of voters in the country. Trump won about 75% of their support. So do I think that it's true? Probably. I mean, there's a lot of data to back that up, that young men especially, but young white men especially are kind of pedal to the metal for the Republican Party. Now, does that mean that they love Trump and everything he's done? No. Trump's favorable numbers among young people is down it's not, you know, in any, in any situation where it's down like 60 or 70 points, but it is gone down. Remember, when someone's in office, numbers likely go down because you have to make good in all your campaign promises. And Americans are a very fickle bunch. We want things, we want things immediately.
Buck Sexton
I would say this because I've got three young boys, 17, 14 and 10 in my household and I'm around their teams that they're on and everything else. Ryan, what I see is most 17 year olds, 16, 14 year olds, they don't have advanced opinions on what tax policy should be or how tariffs should be implemented. But what they do see is a scolding sort of school mom like quality of the Democrat party constantly wagging their finger at young men. And I think this Sydney Sweeney American Eagle ad is representative of that. How much of this do you think is a cultural sort of counter revolution to the woke agenda that so many of these kids have been raised in? Because that's what I see as primarily motivating this response.
Ryan Girdusky
Well, there's two things that are primarily motivating this response and I've spoken to a number of data analysts about this and data scientists. One was Covid. Right. Kids who grew up with COVID losing graduation. It really was. I mean I don't want to sound over, you know, overextended when I say this, but it is true. And it was kind of like world growing up during World War II or growing up during the war on terror or growing up during Vietnam. It is a defining thing for your generation that will impact your politics probably for the rest of the.
Buck Sexton
Let me cut you off for a moment there because I do think a lot of people have missed this. If you didn't get to go to prom or you didn't get to play your high school football season and a lot of these kids, they're 16 and suddenly they don't go back to school again till they're 18. That's such a formative transformative era. I don't think that you're over analyzing that. In fact, I think it's been under discussed. I just want to kind of emphasize that aspect here because I think it hasn't been talked about enough about culturally.
Ryan Girdusky
Right. And the other big thing that no one else has talked about that a number of people brought up to me is that older Gen Z', ers, right, their parents are still mo are still like half baby boomers, which are now becoming one of the more progressive younger baby boomers are far more progressive than older baby boomers are most younger gen zers or almost all younger gen zers parents are Gen Xers and they are the most Republican demographic in the country today. So the who is these gen zers parents also plays a significant part in why their politics have shifted. Their politics are more right wing for these kids and in part because the parents have changed and the parents are more right wing than the parents that came before. That plays a significant role in why these kids are more younger. I mean, listen, if you grew up and you were a baby boomer and you were a younger baby boomer, like let's say you're 60 now and your politics revolved around, I don't know, not protesting the Vietnam War. You might have been too young for that. But you remember it certainly. Versus if you are a younger baby, if you're a Gen Xer and you grew up watching Jay in Silent Box Strikes Back and you thought, you know, you were non conformist and you had Johnny Depp posters in your bedroom versus like David Cassidy. That's an entirely different cultural reference point. And a lot of Gen Xers are more countercultural in that respect. And they do had a nonconformity and they don't like authoritarianism like the way we saw during COVID Speaking of Ryan.
Clay Travis
Gardusky, It's a Numbers Game is his podcast on the Clay and Buck network. So go subs. It's a great time to listen to it this weekend. Go check it out. You'll be really up to speed. Brian, what else is really top of your radar for the data out there to tell us about how things are trending right now for Trump, the Republicans, the country at large, Right.
Ryan Girdusky
So there's a new poll out that I find very, very interesting. It's by a Democratic firm, so I'm going to take it with a big grain of salt. But it is a question I have thought about over and over and that is Latinos who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 and then Donald Trump and then 2024, this is the group that will affect a number of congressional districts. This is the group that we are redistricting Texas around, right? So the poll, which once again is a Democratic pollster and they weren't particularly amazing during 2024, but they were like way, way off. So it's called Equus Research. They said that only 8% of Latinos who voted for Donald Trump in 2024 plan on voting for the Democrat in 2026. That is not a major defection at all specifically among Biden Trump voters. These are what they call the Biden defectors. 30% say they are planning on voting for the Democrat. That is 10 points down from three months ago. That said that when it says 40% would vote for the Democrat. So of those group of people who are new to the Republican Party, who have a long, lifelong history of voting for Democrats, two out of three are not returning home for the Democratic Party. Now, you may say 30% is a huge chunk of. But in long trajectories of, in long history of when groups of people switch party and vacation, you're talking ethnic whites in the 60s or Jews or which not or, you know, working class people. There's always bumps, ups and downs. They switch, they come back, they go, they come back. But there's a trajectory that you'll pay attention to. If you look at the Latino vote, the working class Latino vote, the fact that two thirds are sitting there and saying, no, I'm probably either undecided or I'm definitely sticking with the Republican Party, that continues that trajectory going forward. And it's just for the Democrats and say you're not gonna wake up and all of a sudden be in 2012 again. These people kind of have come to stay and you're gonna have to either figure out a new coalition or change your policies or your vibes or whatever to bring them back.
Clay Travis
Ryan, some people think that Kamala Harris has a political future. Other people think that Kamala Harris is finished. What do you think?
Ryan Girdusky
I am more of the side that Kamala Harris is probably finished with politics. I don't think anyone in the Democratic Party that I have spoken to, I know a few Democratic consultants take her seriously and they didn't. Most did not take her seriously in 2020 when she was picked as the VP and they certainly didn't take her seriously now. No matter how many bitches are ran it. She said she had the perfect campaign. The perfect campaign genuinely leaves you in the White House. She's going on Stephen Colbert. It's a much different life.
Buck Sexton
On the House for next year. The five potential additions in Texas. There's lots of talk about a variety of different state moves and everything else, but it seems to me, and you correct me if I'm wrong, that everybody trying to claim, oh, only one side gerrymanders is completely wrong. Basically, red states are going to do whatever makes sense for red states by and large. Blue states are going to do whatever makes sense for blue states, by and large. If you assess the overall map, is one party more or less guilty of gerrymandering than the other. And how much movement do you think might happen before next year when I think most people agree the House is likely to come down to five or six seats. It's going to be a fine line between who controls it.
Ryan Girdusky
Well, there is one party that overly gerrymanders and that's Democrats. Remember, the Democrats don't have control of many different states as re proportionate. Right. They have control. In 2020 they had control essential of seven states. Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts and Rhode Island. Those are the only seven states they had full control of. In all seven states, there are a total of six elected Republicans out of dozens of congressional seats. They gerrymander them to the Republicans to the absolute corners where they couldn't basically get rid of all them. But every chance that they had to get rid of them. Oregon should have easily two Republicans, Nevada two Republicans, New Mexico one Maryland, two. Illinois should have five or six, Massachusetts should have one. They all have none. Now if you look at the Republican districts, Texas, everyone's talking Texas. Texas, you know, so, so gerrymandered. Texas is less gerrymandered than Illinois, than Maryland, than New Jersey, than California, than Oregon, than New Mexico, than all of these states. Right. They are super, super gerrymandered. And where they could knock Republicans off, they did. The problem is Democrats have sat there and changed to commission based redistricting which has to at least look semi fair even when it's not in the case of California and New Jersey and Washington. So Governor Gavin Newsom pouting his chest saying I'm going to fight, you know, I'm going to fight Abbott, I'm going to change these my lines and I'm going to give Democrats six new seats. Is it possible? Sure. So is like a flying pig. It's not really ever going to happen because it would take so many hurdles. It had to do a Constitutional convention. If the past 2/3 majority have to go to a vote for the people, millions of dollars in several years would have to be spent in order for Gavin Newsom to get that. Same thing with New York, same thing with New Jersey is people pouting their chest and pretending like Democrats have been working in such a sanctimonious way to give fair representation are lying to themselves and most of them are lying to the voters. But how they're going to fight back. It's basically to sit there and say I'm going to be the candidate to take on Trump when they run for president in four years.
Clay Travis
Who is the leader of The Democrat Party right now, as far as you can see, Ryan, because Kamala was asked last night on Colbert and didn't even. She didn't do what I would expect a Democrat to do, which is say we have so many people and rattle off the first four or five names that come to mind. She said nothing. What do you think?
Ryan Girdusky
Well, isn't that typical of Kamala Harris to say nothing? I would sit there and say it's probably Bernie Sanders as of right, I think Bernie Sanders. Wow.
Clay Travis
I thought you were going to say Newsom Bernie Sanders.
Ryan Girdusky
No, no, it's not even close. Bernie has the highest air rating of any elected Democrat. Second is aoc the progressive wing is on the rise. And there's just no, there's no derailing it at this point. And you know, we are. They are going to switch the chairs and the deck on the Titanic. The deck chairs on the Titanic to try to get more moderates to be elected. They'll move the primaries in South Carolina. They'll do everything they can. But we are just, you know, maybe an election cycle, maybe two away from the Democrats going full mondani nationwide and that, you know, we're just going to be in a new progressive phase where they go far left on a number of issues.
Buck Sexton
Let me, let me make the case and I want to get your reaction quickly here. If I'm advising Kamala, right? I'm not saying that I agree with all of this, all right, Just to be fair. But I look at guys and gals who are likely to run. Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, Josh Shapiro, Andy Beshear, JB Pritzker, and all of these so called Mayor Pete, many of them are basically white people, right, that are attempting to persuade college educated white voters that they're the right choice. Like Mayor Pete, for instance, has zero percent support among black people. Meanwhile, you know, if you're a, if you're a college educated woman out there, you love him, right? He is your favorite gay friend. And so. And so if you look on the minority side, right, Cory Booker is a joke, right? I mean, every time a guy opens his mouth, he looks like crazy eyes from the curb your enthusiasm. I mean, he just looks like an insane person. I think he has no larger political future. Westmore is uncertain. Aoc, My point is, if you're looking at the minority black side of the Democrat party, if I'm advising Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams is done. Karen Bass is done. There's almost no one else in that lane. And she doesn't have to be Hugely popular. She just has to get that 25%. Am I crazy or who is going to contend with her for that Lane if she were to run?
Ryan Girdusky
Well, the one thing I would say, I understand your presumption, but I would just want to put one little context in here, is that the black vote, especially in the south, doesn't always vote for the black candidate. They vote for the candidate then can win. They are much more moderate and pragmatic than I think you're giving them credit for. So I would sit there and say, if you're Kamala Harris and you want to have a footprint in politics, realizing that your weaknesses as a candidate, I would go and do what Richard Nixon did, former super pac, campaign for the next Democrat, be a kingmaker. And then if they don't win, come on your white horse and give it eight years in the wilderness. She can afford that time. And if she wants to do that, I don't think she even can. But I don't think the presumption is that the black vote is going to only vote for a black candidate. I think that they're going to, they'll be okay with a black candidate being on the ticket, but I don't think that they need a black candidate. Because in the long history from Clinton onwards, remember Clinton ran against Jesse Jackson, I mean, and Obama was the only one that they sat there and said we have to have it. So I think that they're more pragmatic than that and more moderate.
Buck Sexton
Good stuff. Ryan Gardusky, you can find him in the Clay and Buck podcast network. We appreciate the time, my man.
Ryan Girdusky
Thank you.
Buck Sexton
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Clay Travis
You have.
Buck Sexton
You have the money. Your beard has the appearance of a homeless person.
Clay Travis
That's the best sports coat.
Buck Sexton
Looks like you have football pads on.
Clay Travis
Oh, man.
Buck Sexton
Thank you, Gary. Great.
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
I don't know. But the lines are all absolutely hysterical on Gary. Every sentence. I was reading his email to me. Every or every. His every sentence gets worse.
Clay Travis
That was the funniest thing to Gary. That was the funniest thing today that someone has sent into the show. So Gary wins the prize so far. But we had. We got some other good stuff going on here, I gotta say. We got some. We talk backs are now back in action. Right. So we can take these.
Buck Sexton
Yes, we're backfiring this.
Clay Travis
We just gonna say Rob is coming to your. Rob is coming to your defense here, in a sense. Cc, this is South Florida Rob, who listens on WIO D radio. Hit it.
Buck Sexton
This is for Clay.
Clay Travis
Hey, I used to listen to you.
Buck Sexton
In the morning before you got the Rush show.
Ryan Girdusky
You dress like a SEC coach from.
Clay Travis
The 1970s with those blazers.
Buck Sexton
And also bring back Animal Thunderdome to.
Clay Travis
The Clam Buck show. That was hilarious. I like the Animal Thunderdome idea. We've talked about this.
Ryan Girdusky
But.
Clay Travis
But you dressing like a 70s coach.
Buck Sexton
From the SEC clay, that is a very good line. So, you know, we're working on this right now. Danny G, who was my producer on the show, worked at iheart out in la. He just had a baby and he's like, hey, I need to make more money. And so I think we're gonna do. I think we're gonna put it in some of the Clay and Buck podcast. We're gonna start doing an Animal Thunderdome just to have fun with it. And so he can make a little bit more money because he's got young kids. So I think as we're gonna start.
Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
That's right.
Clay Travis
And we want you to all be able to listen to the show or watch the show on YouTube if you're not within reach of one of our wonderful stations. But new content also. So just more Clay and Buck content coming to you via YouTube.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, go subscribe. Get us over a hundred thousand. We're right at 98,000. So I expect you guys to send us over a hundred either today or over the weekend, and we will have some fun with it there. I mentioned earlier, this is probably that I have not known what my wife should wear to any event for 21 years of marriage. And in fact, oftentimes it will be if Bucks going, for instance, she'll just be like, well, just tell me what Carrie's going to wear. Let me talk with Carrie about What she's going to. Because I have no idea. I did tell her once what to wear to an event. I swear this is true. We were going to a Nashville Predators hockey playoff game, and I had gone to the one right before that. She hadn't been to one in a while. She said, well, what do people wear? And I said, well, they dress pretty nice. I thought. Like, I thought everybody was dressed pretty nice. So I don't know what she wore, but she overdressed. And for a decade now, she has been referencing the fact that the one time I tried to give her advice, I told her to dress too nicely for a sporting event. So I'm just out of the game. But Anna has. Anna from Utah has some advice here. DD 105.9 K NRS radio. Hey, Clay. This is Anna from Utah on my.
Ryan Girdusky
Bike, listening to you guys. I gotta say that the reason your wife doesn't ask you what she. She should actually wear is because your answer will say, like, libby, do you have to wear anything? You look great naked. Talk to you later.
Clay Travis
Whoa.
Buck Sexton
Anna on this. She's on her peloton bike, it sounds like. There. That's a good answer. That's a good answer. And certainly I don't complain.
Clay Travis
Does Laura ever throw this one in your face? Because this happens sometimes with Carrie where. Where she goes, which one of these do you like? And then she'll go, you're just going to like the tight one more, aren't you? And I'm like. I mean, I'm a. I'm a dude, you know, like, what can I do?
Buck Sexton
You know, this. I've talked about this before. My wife does garage sales, yard sale. I don't. This has turned into a huge battle, me pointing out that. And I think my friend Nate Bargazzi, like, actually heard this, and it's got a huge comedic riff on it. You know, positive. We get, like, $5. Negative. Somebody shows up at the house and, like, murders you. She's been doing these yard sales forever, right? Like, garage sales. Whatever you want to say. And. And the amount of effort and energy that goes into it. But to your point, Buck, there's a couple of times where she's put dresses up, and I know nothing, but I'm like, this is an amazing dress. And she's like, well, I'm getting too old to wear, you know, that dress, right? It's. It's a little bit too sexy. You know, I got three kids. Everything that. No, I. I disagree. I think we got to take that one out of the pile. To. So, yes, the answer is probably going to be yes. Legs, little bit of cleavage. I'm not going to complain about it, but. But yes, the, the Gary email here, I'm still laughing about. If you missed it, here's what Gary had to say. The gentleman that called in regarding your clothing is absolutely correct. It's and buck. What I noticed is each sentence gets a little bit worse. It's like different body blows. Your shirt collar sag, your sports coats don't fit properly. The shoulders look like you have football pads on. And then the coup de gras here, this is like the Mike Tyson uppercut back in the 1980s. Your beard has the appearance of a homeless person. Please get some advice. You have the money, Gary. So Gary is definitely come off the top.
Clay Travis
I will tell you. You know, when I, when I met with Trump in 2020, this photo is still available online, so I'm probably asking to get ripped again for it. But when I saw Trump in May of 2020, which was, you know, right. It was peak Covid, but I still went to the White House then and spent, you know, 40 minutes sitting down with, with President Trump. I hadn't been able to get a haircut because there was no haircutting. And, and I hadn't done anything. And the gyms were closed. So this is my way of saying I looked perhaps like a chubby vagrant with, you know, and I just remember just getting ripped and I was like, really, guys? No, no, grace during COVID even for like gaining a few LB because I looked a little, a little overstuffed in the suit and I hadn't gotten a haircut. Man, people are harsh. People were radio hosts. You know, we're not, we're not Abercrombie models.
Buck Sexton
Before I started doing television, I had, and I'm sure this is probably true for women. In fact, I think people may be meaner to men because men don't typically put as much stake in appearance. I don't know. I know that what blew me away when I started doing television about a decade ago, because I started off doing writing and then moved into radio television. A decade plus, whatever it is, is roughly I've been doing it. I thought people would react to what I said. The overwhelming majority of people react not to what you say, but to what you look like while you're saying it. And I do think that that's something that most people don't contemplate very much.
Clay Travis
So, you know, I'm not a, I'm not a morning person. And I remember I Did. I don't know. This is many years ago. I did a Fox and Friends hit and it was in the. Maybe it was like this 6:30 or 7:00am kind of was as brutal. And, and I was, this is when I lived in New York and I got there and I was in person, the studio and, and someone, as someone described, you know, when you, when you've been sleeping and like your hair in the back.
Ryan Girdusky
Yeah.
Buck Sexton
You have like tied head going on. Yeah, right.
Clay Travis
But it was in the back so I couldn't. So I thought I was fine. And he said, dude, you. When I, when my head turned on set, you had a shark fin coming. A shark fin coming out of the back. And I saw it and I did have this like pointy triangle of hair off the back of my head, which. And by the way, that's all any, that's all anyone notices. You go on tv, I could be giving out the formula for Coca Cola pure. And if I have a shark fin because of bed head off the back of my head, that's all that anyone that comments is going to talk about. But I'd say this. When you're a guy in broadcasting, people who, like you still and like are on your team will make fun of your appearance and like, it's all in, you know, we take it and whatever. Even if, you know someone's saying, buck, you've gained a little weight or a lot of weight or whatever it is. I think if you're a lady in broadcasting, none of your. Everyone knows that. No, no, you don't. You don't attack a lady's appearance. If you're, if you're actually a fan. Like, you can be a fan of a guy in broadcasting and make fun of him for that stuff. And it's like, we're all still friends. I think only people that are trying to tear down a woman in broadcasting attacker appearance, like, nobody would find. You know what I mean? It's, it's like.
Buck Sexton
Yeah, no, I think that's, I think that's probably true. I don't think there's very many women that would, that would take kindly to the same level of criticism. I also don't think it would be delivered in the same way, if that makes sense. But it is funny because it's totally.
Clay Travis
Like you and I can laugh about your suit jackets. Like if one of the ladies on the View. Let's just make it about the View for now. Was told by somebody, hey, your dress, you know, looks like you look like a homeless person in that dress or Something they wouldn't find that funny at all. They would be deeply offended. So it's different.
Buck Sexton
That's probably very true. But I will say, if you are on television a lot, my goal is, yes, I'm fine looking like a 1970s SEC basketball coach because I don't want to only wear like a navy blue blazer and a white shirt every single time that I'm on. And I do think that certain shows like Jesse Waters got what I would say is more of a comedic sensibility in terms of the way that he does his show. Other shows are more serious. And so I kind of match the clothing in my mind to the content of the show like I would if I were going on to talk about should Iran be bombed or not. I wouldn't go on in, you know, like a hot pink sports jacket. I'd go on like in traditional dower, you know, navy blue or whatever else. So I do think the, the, the sartorial choice, as it were, is pegged in some way in my, you know, peanut brain here when it comes to fashion of corresponding to the conversation so that it seems like it fits. Does that make sense?
Clay Travis
And some guys, yeah, absolutely. And some guys just want to bro out here like vip. Email from Paul. Paul says any man that judges another man's clothing needs his man card revoked. Only a man's wife can do that. Otherwise leave me alone. I mean, this is not nom. There are rules.
Buck Sexton
This is not nom. There are in fact rules. By the way, we'll get more of your talk backs. Lots of funny comments rolling in, but this is what I was talking about. Like sometimes you talk about serious things. Like the other day when I brought up the, the cosmetic diversity inside of gentleman's clubs. Buck had a tough time making the transition. This is not an easy transition because it is a very serious thing. The IFCJ does incredible work in Israel, getting everybody taken care of. When there's all sorts of bombs falling, when there's missiles roaring through the sky, everybody has to rush to bomb shelters. And one of the groups that is helping to build those bomb shelters, the ifcj, they do incredible work and they make as much as possible it as safe as they can make it in a land that is war torn, particularly in the wake of October 7th. And so lots of people out there do not have the resources. When I went to Israel, wide range of, of of homes, wide range of incomes, but everybody as a group is under similar danger. Some people don't have all the resources they need to be able to protect themselves. And that's what the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews tries to take into account when they are doing their best to save and countless civilian lives. You are helping them build bomb shelters all over the country for people who otherwise might not have them. You are helping to save lives. Now's the time to help. To rush your gift, call 888-488-IFCJ. That's 888488 IFCJ. You can also go online at IFCJ.org that's IFCJ.org keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast. Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay. Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are having a lot of fun, closing up shop, headed into the weekend. We'll be back on Monday with all of you. I would say big news out there is that essentially the economy is rolling and the stock market down a little bit today, but has been on an unbelievable tear. Many different positive things out there are thanks to Bernie Moreno and Mark Wayne Mullen, both from the Senate. I do think that story out of Cincinnati Buck is going to continue to get more and more attention. Ryan Garduski, part of the Clay and Buck Podcast Network. If you like this show and want more shows, also more divergent, interesting perspectives, you should go sign up for the Podcast network. And please, over this weekend. I don't think that I mentioned it very much during the course of today's show, but we are. Where are we sitting here? We are approaching 98,000 Clay and Buck subscribers on YouTube. Please put us over a hundred this weekend so that when we come back on Monday. Honestly, I'm surprised how quickly you guys have signed up there. It has been impressive to see and we want to continue to be able to reach you in as many different places as possible.
Clay Travis
Very important. Email here from VIP Lynette. You both look almost as good as this package of Crockett Coffee that just arrived at my door. Thank you, Lynette. And a great reminder, I got my Overmountain Club mug here from Crockett Coffee like the Overmountain boys, because we celebrate American history and you all know what the overmount was all about. If you don't go to crockettcoffee.com, sign up, subscribe code book, do it before we change it all up and you can't Get a signed copy of American Playbook, because Clay's book Balls will be out. And my book, Untitled, I'll eventually tell you the title will be out as well. So we got a whole bunch of exciting new, new stuff coming your way.
Buck Sexton
On all that to September, October, three months until my book will be out. I spent a lot of time thinking about it. We've talked about it on this program. Uh, it's all about how young men, sports fans and Trump were instrumental in winning the 2024 election. And in particular, it tries to address the topic we talked about with Ryan Gardusky. Why are so many young men moving to the Republican Party? What in the culture has created that dynamic? It's one that I think is very significant and one that I've been grappling with quite a lot. All right, we got some funny Talkbacks here. Buck Ee Jessica from Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, burned during 1864. This is what I did my Civil War thesis on. As all super nerds do. I'm sure Jessica's got my back. Play it.
Ryan Girdusky
I wanted to tell you that I.
Buck Sexton
Think Clay looks like somebody from Miami Vice. That he could just go right off in his convertible with those outfits that he wears. I think he looks pretty cool, but that's just me. But you know, Clay, do you, you know, don't listen to any of these people. Does it sound to you a little bit. I sounds like there's a little kid in the background there. Jessica. Maybe she's hit the wine already. Am I wrong? I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to disparage Jessica because she had my back, but it sounds like there's a little kid in the background there. Sounds like Jessica.
Clay Travis
It's Almost, maybe almost 3:00' clock on a Friday. It is margarita happy hour time in a lot of places to be sure.
Buck Sexton
I don't blame any mom out there who's had the kids home all summer. It's Friday. Hey, husband's gonna be home in a little bit. Let' go ahead and hit the wine. Doris from Lincoln, Nebraska, Cornhusker town. What you got for us?
Clay Travis
Ff?
Ryan Girdusky
Hey, Clay. This is Doris from Lincoln, Nebraska, and I think you got it going on. Just a little tweak with the facial hair. Get a great suit jacket. And you have to remember you've been doing radio for years, so it could take you a hot minute to get snazzed up.
Clay Travis
Was this kind of a backhanded. I think that was a little backhanded. I think she's I think she's, she's trying to be gentle on the approach, but I think the final landing here you got roughed up, buddy.
Buck Sexton
You look great, but you just need to change everything about yourself is not necessarily an endorsement. If you just changed your facial hair and your jackets and maybe stopped smiling and got braces, you would just be amazing on television.
Clay Travis
I will say this real real quick Clay, because you know I do read books because I haven't been married long and I'm trying to learn and I do find books are very helpful with things. One thing for the guys out there or for the ladies out there rather with your men soft approach. All the research says whenever you want something, go soft approach. You know, you just look so great today husband. You're such a great husband. Can you clean the darn yard? Like that's the don't say it like that. But that's the way to do it. Always go in soft and you'll get what you want.
Buck Sexton
My wife has never adopted that so strategy. Maybe I can do that book. Let's get Patrick, South Dakota. Gentlemen, good afternoon.
Ryan Girdusky
Clay, this comments for you. I just gotta say you gotta stop referring to Kamala as attractive. I mean Buck talked about Naomi Campbell earlier in the week. I would even throw Tyra Banks out there. But Clay, we gotta stop when in the laundry list of her amazing dei, you know, accomplishments and her resume. Please stop referring to her as attractive because come on man.
Buck Sexton
Sorry. I, I she for a 60 year old woman, Kamala Harris is attractive. I mean am I being an insult to you? Oh come on. Can give her that.
Clay Travis
This is an Iheart podcast.
Podcast Summary: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show – Hour 3: "What Do the Numbers Say?"
Podcast Information:
Clay Travis opens the third hour of the show by welcoming back Ryan Gardusky, a prominent figure in the Clay and Buck podcast network. Ryan hosts a show titled "It's a Numbers Game," which delves into the data-driven realities of American politics.
Clay Travis (00:00): "Our friend Ryan Gardusky is back in the mix with us. He is a star of the Clay and Buck podcast network."
a. Data on Party Affiliation Shifts
Clay initiates the discussion by referencing startling statistics about the shift from Democrat to Republican among young men. Ryan confirms these numbers, citing Pew Research data indicating a significant swing towards the Republican Party among men under 30.
Ryan Gardusky (01:02): "Pew Research reported that a party identification for men under the age of 30 had a 44 point swing towards Republicans from Republicans having 36% to 52%."
b. Trump's Support Among Young Men
Ryan further elaborates on former President Donald Trump's substantial support among young white men, highlighting that Trump garnered about 75% support from this demographic during the 2024 election.
Ryan Gardusky (01:59): "In the 2024 election, Donald Trump won about 75% of the support from young white men, making them the most Republican group of voters in the country."
c. Reasons for the Shift
The hosts discuss potential reasons behind this political realignment. Ryan attributes part of the shift to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on young people's formative years, comparing it to historical events like World War II and the Vietnam War.
Ryan Gardusky (03:08): "There’s two things that are primarily motivating this response... one was Covid. Kids who grew up with COVID losing graduation... it is a defining thing for your generation that will impact your politics."
Buck adds that the interruption of traditional teenage experiences, such as prom and high school sports, has had a profound effect on young men’s political perspectives.
Buck Sexton (03:34): "If you didn't get to go to prom or you didn't get to play your high school football season... that's such a formative transformative era."
Ryan introduces a new poll from Equus Research, a Democratic firm, examining Latino voters' tendencies to switch party affiliations. The poll reveals that only 8% of Latinos who voted for Trump in 2024 plan to vote Democrat in 2026, indicating minimal defection.
Ryan Gardusky (06:22): "Only 8% of Latinos who voted for Donald Trump in 2024 plan on voting for the Democrat in 2026."
He emphasizes that two-thirds of this group are likely to remain with the Republican Party, posing significant implications for future congressional races and redistricting efforts, especially in states like Texas.
Ryan Gardusky (08:20): "Two-thirds are saying, no, I'm probably either undecided or I'm definitely sticking with the Republican Party."
a. Kamala Harris' Political Future
The conversation shifts to the leadership within the Democratic Party, specifically questioning Vice President Kamala Harris' political viability. Ryan expresses skepticism about her future in politics, noting that even Democratic consultants do not take her seriously.
Ryan Gardusky (08:31): "I am more on the side that Kamala Harris is probably finished with politics."
b. Potential Democratic Leaders
Ryan suggests that figures like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) are emerging as key leaders within the party's progressive wing. He forecasts a shift towards more progressive policies, comparing the Democrats' potential trajectory to the “deck chairs on the Titanic.”
Ryan Gardusky (12:26): "The progressive wing is on the rise... we are just going to be in a new progressive phase where they go far left on a number of issues."
c. Gerrymandering and Democratic Strategy
Buck inquires about whether one party is more culpable for gerrymandering and its impact on upcoming House races. Ryan argues that Democrats are the primary perpetrators of gerrymandering, using data from several states to illustrate how Democratic-controlled states have strategically gerrymandered to benefit Republican candidates in specific districts.
Ryan Gardusky (09:53): "There is one party that overly gerrymanders and that's Democrats."
He critiques Democratic attempts to implement commission-based redistricting as largely ineffective and highlights the challenges leaders like California Governor Gavin Newsom face in redrawing fair district lines.
Following the in-depth political discussions, the show transitions into audience interactions, humor, and light-hearted segments. While these portions predominantly consist of jokes and personal anecdotes about clothing and appearances, they occasionally touch on political themes, such as Bryan’s mention of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews (IFCJ), which supports bomb shelter construction in Israel.
Clay Travis (26:17): "The IFCJ does incredible work in Israel, getting everybody taken care of when there's danger."
Despite the shift to a more relaxed tone, the primary focus remains on political analysis and listener engagement.
Clay and Buck wrap up the episode by promoting upcoming content, including their YouTube channel and new projects within the Clay and Buck podcast network. They encourage listeners to subscribe and engage with additional shows that offer diverse and interesting perspectives.
Clay Travis (32:41): "If you like this show and want more shows, also more divergent, interesting perspectives, you should go sign up for the Podcast network."
Key Takeaways:
Significant Party Shifts: There has been a notable swing from Democrat to Republican among men under 30, with similar trends observed among young women, albeit to a lesser extent.
Trump’s Strong Support Base: Donald Trump maintains substantial support among young white men, making this demographic a crucial factor in Republican strategies.
Latino Voter Stability: A small percentage of Latino voters are switching from Democrat to Republican, with the majority likely to stay aligned with the GOP, impacting future elections.
Democratic Leadership Challenges: Kamala Harris’ political future appears uncertain within the Democratic Party, with rising influence from progressive figures like Bernie Sanders and AOC.
Gerrymandering Concerns: Democrats are identified as the primary party engaging in gerrymandering to protect and enhance their electoral prospects, though efforts to create fairer districts face significant hurdles.
Listener Engagement: The show effectively balances serious political discourse with humor and listener interactions, maintaining an engaging and dynamic format.
Notable Quotes:
Ryan Gardusky (01:02): "Pew Research reported that a party identification for men under the age of 30 had a 44 point swing towards Republicans from Republicans having 36% to 52%."
Ryan Gardusky (01:59): "In the 2024 election, Donald Trump won about 75% of the support from young white men, making them the most Republican group of voters in the country."
Ryan Gardusky (08:31): "I am more on the side that Kamala Harris is probably finished with politics."
Ryan Gardusky (09:53): "There is one party that overly gerrymanders and that's Democrats."
Ryan Gardusky (12:26): "The progressive wing is on the rise... we are just going to be in a new progressive phase where they go far left on a number of issues."
This episode of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show provides an insightful analysis of current political trends, backed by data and expert commentary from Ryan Gardusky. The discussions highlight significant shifts in party affiliations among younger demographics, the stability of Latino voters within the Republican Party, and the emerging leadership dynamics within the Democratic Party. Balancing serious political discourse with engaging listener interactions, the show offers a comprehensive overview of the evolving American political landscape.